The article policing and Indian reservation is a similar to the things that I saw in the movie/ show and what I have read in the book. In the article it talks about the stuff that Indians that stay on reservation go through on the daily. Two people that were on the basketball team were killed, one was nineteen and died I a car accident, and the other was a twenty year old that was hit in the head with an axe right after he graduated. In these Indian reservations there are a lot of drug crimes and drunken driving reports. In the movie almost every person that went to jail had either been drunk or had weed on them. But the book talks about community policing and how they try to do their jobs to the best of their ability’s like how they y to their hardest to get to calls and making arrest. Jimoh789
I agree with Jimoh789 he makes a good point about how the Navajo police try to the hardest they can to stop people from obtaining drugs or using alcohol but due to the shortage they have of officers its very hard for them to keep tabs on all the land to make sure everything and everyone is ok the reason I think more people and alot of arrests happened was because the people who live on the reservation have connections with other people and have easy access to obtain the drugs or alcohol. TMilligan 789
I agree with Jimoh789 about the police being short-staffed. They do their best to prevent people getting drugs or using alcohol but it's hard to keep track of everyone. I think its possible those on the reservation have contacts so they can get illegal substances, and because of the above-mentioned shortage, the cops can't catch everyone. Jon787
I agree will all three of you, but sadly there is a common problem here. The amount of criminals or criminal activities happening out number the inforcers (police). The number of people that think its ok the hurt someone else or think they can get away with it overwhelms communities and sometimes burries them. Thankfully that hasn't happened to the Navajos or us. Alex789
Throughout the film we watched, reading the book, and reading this article they each have many similarities. During the film you can view the living situations these people deal with such as alochol bottles everywhere, garbage, livestock, and small living spaces. In the article it had talked about how there are always empty alochol bottles lying everywhere too. Also, in the article it said how the officer drove 400 miles,logged 42 calls and arrested 19 people. During the film when Officer Tallman went to help the girl who had been pinned by the tractor, it said that she had over 5,000 arrests. Comparing that to areas in Illinois there is quite a difference. Though drugs are everywhere they seem to be most popular in areas such as the Indian Reservation. - MH789
I agree to what MH789 is saying the areas of Illinois aren’t as bad as the Indian reservation, but like MH987 was saying drugs and alcohol can be found everywhere. You couldn’t go to one area of the world were people don’t use alcohol or use weed or drive when drunk. JIMOH789
I also agree with MH987 and JIMOH789 how like an area of Illinois or the state may not be as bad as the reservation might be just due to more of a police presence. But anywhere you do go in the world there will be drugs and alcohol abuse no matter what just due to the looser laws and easier access the Indian reservation and the people who live on it can get it easier. TMILLIGAN789
Alcohol and drugs do seem to be a big problem on the Indian reservations after watching the video and then reading. But this could be compared to that alcohol and drugs are a problem everywhere like the gentlemen above said, but it is to an extent. We have many different things so that alcohol bottles and beer cans are not just laying out in the open space we have people pick them up for community service and etc. It does not seem that way on the Reservations so if there is just bottles and cans of beer and alcohol every where then the children could get the impression that it is alright to drink. I think there is a difference when comparing the alcohol and drug problem on the reservation to Illinois or another state because we do not have the excess bottles and cans laying places.
I agree where MH789 where he states that while the state of Illinois isn't as bad as the Indian reservation, the fact is, drugs and alcohol can be found everywhere. There is not a single area of the world where people don’t use alcohol, use drugs, or drive intoxicated. This is present everywhere and is not going away anytime soon. Jon787
I absolutely agree with Megan about the living conditions being a factor. Plus you did not overlook the livestock that were free and about. In the video when an officer responded to a wreck that involved the truck and two cows; it easily shows that violence is not the only problem they have to deal with. Since the reservations do not sell land to any of their population, there are no boundaries for farmer's livestock to be contained, which instantly puts motorists in danger. Noetzol789
I agree with MH789 that most cases that cops have to deal with usually have to deal with alcohol or drugs. On the video the majority of the calls that the police responded to the people were usually on drugs or were very intoxicated. Like MH789 said living conditions are a very big factor. DO789
In my opinion I think there were many similarities between the movie and the book and how they compared.It showed really what happened behind the scenes and really what kind of crimes go on in the Indian reservation and how much area the Navajo police have to cover most of they calls on the movie had to deal with some sort of weapon like a stabbing, or the shooting I think drugs and the alcohol amounts to why they are move violent of person compared to the normal citizen. Also Indian women are the most abused by their husband probably due to the drug and alcohol abuse.Some of the officers probably arrest more people for drugs or DUI's everything then most like city cops like Peoria Police just due to the more access and how the laws are set up on the reservation. TMilligan 789
I agree there was a lot of drugs and alcohol related issues in the movie. Then in the article it opened with the two young adults being killed, one in a accident while intoxicated and the other with an ax. Obviously crimes like this occur everywhere but from the movie, article, and book it appears that it has been occurring an abundance in these areas. I think it is a problem that will need to find a solution to soon or it will result in more deaths such as the two kids from the beginning of the article. Ramadan789
What really is interesting to me is that most of the Native American police women get treated so much better and respected a lot more than Native American men, by the Native American criminals. The other part that is very interesting to me is that there is no privacy or private property on any of the Indian Reservation. An interesting fact is that one of the Indian Refuge’s, Wind River, has a crime rate that is five to seven times higher than the national average. Another even more interesting fact about the Wind River Indian Reservation is that on average the life expectancy for residents is 49 years old, which as the crime report stated is twenty years fewer than the life expectancy in Iraq. In turn this data from the life expectancy of living in the Indian Refuge sums up that murder and the living conditions of the Refuge are very poor. -AEK789
I agree that it was interesting that Officer Lucy Dan said she felt that women cops were treated with respect. Typically people wouldn't respect women police officers just because their women and aren't usually as stern or strong as male police officers. But, then again most people know that it is wrong to hit a woman so when they are being arrested by a woman police officer they might think twice before getting too aggressive. Whereas, if they were being arrested by a male police officer they may not be as concerned with being too aggressive. -MH789
I agree with AEK789. Women are treat on a higher level of respect in the Native American reservations. On the city streets. its the other way around. Women cops a beaten and treated with lower respect the some rapist. I was intrigued as well to find out there was no private land. That then makes it so much more susceptible to theft and vandilization. SM789
I agree I thought it was pretty interesting how much better the women officers got treated on the reservations as well. I wonder if that’s a cultural thing for the Navajo though because although it is wrong to hit a woman I doubt that would be why women officers get treated better on the reservation. KAM789
One major problem that I am continuously seeing throughout the article, the book, and the movie is the response time it takes to get to an incident. Some times it is not bad because they are relatively close but during the movie it said that sometimes they had to go 30+ miles and that was the closest one. This could be a cause of a few things such as being short handed on the number of officers, the amount of land they have to cover with the little amount of officers they have had, and others. In the article it discussed how President Obama is trying to take initiative to help reduce the crime. During this initiative the amount of officers on the reservation went from 6 to 37. Lack of officers is not the only reason the crime is so high there. The high unemployment rate, the standards of living such as water being contaminated so they have to boil it, and even some people say its haunted from the massacre in 1864 all contribute. Another thing is if an officer works in different places such as in the movie they have to know the different laws because they can vary from place to place; and its even putting the officer in danger because since the area is so large they may not have a familiarity with every aspect of it and that could put them into harm even though it does raise their awareness. President Obama is taking an initiative to help these reservations since their crime rate is so high and it is a start especially since he already helped raise the officer count from 6 to 37 in one area. The problems are being recognized and hopefully they will continue to be modified to attempt lower crime in the Reservations. Ramadan789
I noticed that it took the cops a very long time to arrive where crime was happening too. But,this is also a problem in many other places. If you watch Cops, The First 48, or Panic 9-1-1 it also seems to take officers a long period of time to get to a scene. The phone calls they play last at least 10-30 minutes before the cops even arrive. It's sad because this has led to many deaths and injuries, but it's just how it works. If we had cops in every neighborhood it would be way too expensive because each cop would have to be provided weapons and vehicles. But, like you said, hopefully the crime will eventually decrease. -MH789
I noticed that as well, it took 30 minutes for them to get to some locations (even travelling at 100+ mph). They just have too much ground to cover between themselves and the scene. This is a serious understaffing issue. When the seconds count the officers are often unable to arrive on the scene on time, not at their own fault however, the service that needs to be provided is undermanned entirely. - EAB789
Response time is definitely an issue. Navajo officers have to cover so much ground to get to where they are going, even when driving at dangerous speeds, like in the video, it takes them much longer than it would for an officer here in the city. What I find almost equally troubling is that the citizens making the call aren't expecting anything different. In the article the police chief said that after the 'surge' when response time decreased to a few minutes rather than 30, citizens often respond with something along the lines of, 'if I knew you were going to be here so soon I would have called later.' I would hope that they were only joking, but it doesn't seem to be the case. I cant see why they would wait any longer to call in a crime, even if it is an everyday occurrence. RMG789
I liked how you pointed out the unemployment rate being a factor as well as the lack of officers. Also the sometimes requirement to understand multiple state's laws only puts more responsibility of the officer who already has to cover an extremely large area. Though my biggest agreement is the small number of officers for such a large amount of land. Noetzol789
After reading the article, it does have many similarities with the TV show and in the textbook. This article shows what the people on the Indian reservation go through compared to the regular guy on the street. All of the people featured were killed before they had a chance to live their lives. Drug crime and drunk driving prevail on the reservations. This is the case in the TV show. By contrast, the book says how because they are short of manpower, the police try to get to every crime they can and do their job to protect others. They can't respond to everything, so have to pick what is considered the biggest threat. Jon789
I agree, the officers who are forced to pick and choose between which scenarios will be the most dangerous leaves a lot of room for error. Like we saw in the movie, simple traffic stops for rolling through a stop sign can lead to much more criminal findings, not to mention the sheer number of times simple situations turn incredibly sour for officers everywhere. -EAB789
I agree with Jon789 on the fact that a lot of people on Indian reservations have it harder than most people on streets outside of the reservations. Many students and graduates could go onto having successful lives and careers but many of them become victims to crime or become susceptible to crime after graduating because of all the alcohol, drugs, violence, and lack of crime control. -CEM789
I agree with Jon789 there are a bunch of similarities from all three sources. If there were more police officers on the reservation than many peoples lives could be saved. I also agree with what he has to say about they were killed before they got a chance to live there lives in some way or another. Just sad that people are like that, it show how messed up people are now a days. KYLE789
Unfortunately, similar scenes such as the Indian Reservations are in parts of the rest of America as well. New Orleans, Chicago, and Oakland share similar fates. However the Navajo police seem to be at a different kind of disadvantage. Like we saw in the movie, the officers have to know the laws for three different states since their jurisdiction is within that region. Having to know three different versions of the law is undoubtedly going to throw some officers off. The drug abuse and lack of private property definitely contribute to the problem as well. The high volume of drug movement distracts officers from responding to other violent crimes as well as contributing to the crime rate due to the violence that comes about through the black market trades. It seems like the Navajo police will have these issues with crime until social change comes about through the region. - EAB789
In the film and reading this article there both dealing with people drinking and having alcohol. In Navajo people are very sad that there animals are getting hit but if you hit a animal in a regular town its not that important. The laws in Navajo are different from the laws n different areas. In the movie and in the article it took them approximately 30 mins to get to the scene and that was ridiculous because the person could of died or in very serious pain. Police shouldn't have no excuse to be late to a crime scene.
I think this proves to be a great point, this sort of crime IS everywhere. Everywhere else has the means to work to reduce it. I also agree that these Navajo police have a huge disadvantage, ranging from the land they have to cover, the number of officers on hand, and the fact that they may have to know laws for there states plus their own. Although there has been some reinforcements added, it just isn't enough. RMG789
In the video the women officer had to handcuff the victim because of her safety. There aren't too many women officers who do that because off there own safety. In the video it doesn't have any thing involved in Obama administration but in the article the Obama is involved because it will help out with crime priority a lot.
A lot of the facts in this article are extremely troubling. Wind River only had six officers before the surge for the entire reservation, and even after that they only gain thirty-one new officers. The few cops that are part of the reservation are trying their best to minimize crime, but very little back up and resources make it difficult to do so. The article said that Wind River didn't even have the means to track crime. I know that reservations have their own justice system among many things, but they are still technically a part of this country, I am not entirely convinced that the state is doing everything to help these people. The high unemployment rate is also an issue, in our book we learned that with higher unemployment, the more crime occurs. The video said that 'pay day' on reservations is a time when crime is higher as well. It just seems that the quality of life is lower on reservations like this, its become a part of their lives. They don't know how or have the means to effect a positive change.
Police was getting to the scene late and that was disappointing because it could of been a serious injury. You see that in america there has been killing and car accidents but when you go to India or Navajo you will see its a lot of drug dealing going on. It was very interesting watching the article, film and reading the book. Officers are all dealing with criminals and the criminal act that's going on in America and all over the world. It will always be something going on wrong in the criminal poverty. -Shalonda789
I agree with Shalonda789 with the fact that the cops arrival time was at a highly slow pace. A lot of injuries and even deaths could be prevented if they had a much faster arrival time. But then again that’s do to the fact that there are very few officers tending to a massive area of land. -CEM789
I agree with Shalonda789 with the fact that they do take a long time to get to the scene, but yet it is not their fault they take such a long way to go and such a short time to get there, especially when there are such few officers and they each have to travel 30 miles to the nearest crime scene or accident. -AEK789
i agree with Shalonda789. Police do have issues with arrival time and fighting crime. I believe its because of the under staffing. Most of the Native land have only 1 cop for ever 50 miles. However there are places over staffed and over populated. An over population of people with hinder both the arrival time and high crime rates. SM789
Watching the video about policing on Indian reservations and reading the article about it really gave me a perspective on how hard it is to prevent crime in these areas. One reason I learned from this is that it can be difficult because there can be up to one hundred cops in a reservation or 36 cops for a 400 mile reservation, either way it’s still insufficient help. Another thing I learned is that there is no private property which increases the crime rate significantly because the residents have no boundaries as to where they can go or where they can be. All of this causes there to be a high rate of crime and difficulty to control it. -CEM789
I agree with CEM789 because 36 cops for a 400 mile reservation seems to be a little low, but it was even worse just a little bit ago, before they increased the size of the force, because each cop had to cover about 57 square miles each, when the task force only had seven cops. –AEK789
I agree I thought is was a little depressing how much ground there was to cover compared to how few officers they had on the reservation. I also found it interesting how used to the crime people are on the reservation, which just goes to show how understaffed the police on the reservation are since the citizens aren’t used to a fast response time, but at the same time it appears that even if the response time was faster it wouldn’t be appreciated anyway. KAM789
It is unfortunate to read about and see how high the crime rates are on reservations like the one in the film. The first thing that I had noticed was the slow response times. In the film one of the officers stated that the car accident she was heading to was just over thirty miles away, and she was the closest unit. The biggest problem in these areas were no doubt the use of illegal drugs and the abuse of alcohol (drunk driving). It is quite obvious that if the reservations had more officers to cover the large amount of area that the crime rate would plummet; and it's nice to see that the government has recently been taking initiative to do so. Increasing the number of police from 6 to 37 is a huge step for the reservation, but it is still clear that more has to be done. Noetzol789
As sad as it is to read this article its all a hard truth. The short staffing of the American Indian reservation. to the extreme murder and abuse rates in them as well. I found it shocking the size of a reservation and to only have 300 police to cover almost land that crosses over 4 different states. I was worried for one officer in the show who couldn't wait for back up as he enters a known drug house to find another possible perpetrator. In that house he found a plethora of blunt and edge weapons that house held. Then another female officer wasn't able to receive back up for a call where a man was threatening a women with a big tractor.
As sad as it is to read this article its all a hard truth. The short staffing of the American Indian reservation. to the extreme murder and abuse rates in them as well. I found it shocking the size of a reservation and to only have 300 police to cover almost land that crosses over 4 different states. I was worried for one officer in the show who couldn't wait for back up as he enters a known drug house to find another possible perpetrator. In that house he found a plethora of blunt and edge weapons that house held. Then another female officer wasn't able to receive back up for a call where a man was threatening a women with a big tractor. SM789
I agree with SM789 it is shocking to have only 300 police to cover all of that land across those four states. They should hire more police officers for those four states for the Indian reservations. it will help out in the long run and probably save a bunch more lives and protect the streets for there community's. KYLE789
I'm glad you mentioned the incedent about the man allegedly threateing a women with a tractor. This type of event is something that can make a person go speechless, and we would probably think no one out side of a reservation would do this or has ever done this, right? Alex789
I feel that the article and the movie/show we watched in class are very similar. In the article it shows how different people are then the states, and even in the show it said people are so much different here. For example in the article it says about an axe attack, same thing happen in the show. It just shows how careless people are on the Indian reservations, like that high school drop out rate is more there then it is in the states. I feel like they over react over the smallest things, like someone taking something from there property. That does not give someone the right to hit someone with a tractor. Things are just so much different on an Indian reservation then the states. KYLE789
I agree with kyle the article and the show we watched are very similar. They both show us how different the people are on the reservation than compared to the ones back in the states. There is a dramatic change with the carelessness between people on reservation and people in the states.
Throughout reading the book and watching the video it is very eye opening as to what goes on, on an indian reservation. As i observed the drug and aclcohol situations throughout the video on the navajo reservation, the drug and alcohol situations seem to be abused more often because of the lower income families. I find it very shocking that there are very few officers compared to the amount of area that they have to cover. Some people may think that because of the amount of officers that patrol the area that they will be able to get away with more because maybe they wont drive so far for something that might not be a big deal to some. I noticed in the video that the police were arriving to the scene late. Arriving to the scene late could be a bad thing like if somebody was dying. DO789
Crime is crime no matter where it is committed. From the southside of Peoria to the desolate plains of Navajo reservations. Even from just reading and viewing the movie, it is evident that there are cultures that may seem different and even "bizzare" have crime like "ordinary" US citizens, but even more astounding than that is the fact that they have a full body of organize police men and women pursuing justice. From my observations there is nothing above the law to the Navajo police. They use the same tactics, communication, mannerisms, weapons, etc as police here in Peoria. They aren't dressed like native americans, but are garbed in uniform. They have the full capability to arrest and use force if necessary. As I said, crime is crime no matter where it is committed Alex789
After reading the article and watching the video I can understand how the Navajo police are understaffed considering they have a lot of ground to cover. I thought it was interesting how the laws on the reservation were different, for instance on the reservation there was no private property, land could only be leased from the reservation. It isn’t surprising that would lead to property disputes. I also found it interesting that in addition to knowing the reservation laws the Navajo officers had to know the laws from the several states the reservation span across. I wouldn’t be surprised if that leads to a lot of paperwork confusion or just general frustration. KAM789
The article policing and Indian reservation is a similar to the things that I saw in the movie/ show and what I have read in the book. In the article it talks about the stuff that Indians that stay on reservation go through on the daily. Two people that were on the basketball team were killed, one was nineteen and died I a car accident, and the other was a twenty year old that was hit in the head with an axe right after he graduated. In these Indian reservations there are a lot of drug crimes and drunken driving reports. In the movie almost every person that went to jail had either been drunk or had weed on them. But the book talks about community policing and how they try to do their jobs to the best of their ability’s like how they y to their hardest to get to calls and making arrest. Jimoh789
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jimoh789 he makes a good point about how the Navajo police try to the hardest they can to stop people from obtaining drugs or using alcohol but due to the shortage they have of officers its very hard for them to keep tabs on all the land to make sure everything and everyone is ok the reason I think more people and alot of arrests happened was because the people who live on the reservation have connections with other people and have easy access to obtain the drugs or alcohol. TMilligan 789
DeleteI agree with Jimoh789 about the police being short-staffed. They do their best to prevent people getting drugs or using alcohol but it's hard to keep track of everyone. I think its possible those on the reservation have contacts so they can get illegal substances, and because of the above-mentioned shortage, the cops can't catch everyone. Jon787
DeleteI agree will all three of you, but sadly there is a common problem here. The amount of criminals or criminal activities happening out number the inforcers (police). The number of people that think its ok the hurt someone else or think they can get away with it overwhelms communities and sometimes burries them. Thankfully that hasn't happened to the Navajos or us.
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Throughout the film we watched, reading the book, and reading this article they each have many similarities. During the film you can view the living situations these people deal with such as alochol bottles everywhere, garbage, livestock, and small living spaces. In the article it had talked about how there are always empty alochol bottles lying everywhere too. Also, in the article it said how the officer drove 400 miles,logged 42 calls and arrested 19 people. During the film when Officer Tallman went to help the girl who had been pinned by the tractor, it said that she had over 5,000 arrests. Comparing that to areas in Illinois there is quite a difference. Though drugs are everywhere they seem to be most popular in areas such as the Indian Reservation. - MH789
ReplyDeleteI agree to what MH789 is saying the areas of Illinois aren’t as bad as the Indian reservation, but like MH987 was saying drugs and alcohol can be found everywhere. You couldn’t go to one area of the world were people don’t use alcohol or use weed or drive when drunk. JIMOH789
DeleteI also agree with MH987 and JIMOH789 how like an area of Illinois or the state may not be as bad as the reservation might be just due to more of a police presence. But anywhere you do go in the world there will be drugs and alcohol abuse no matter what just due to the looser laws and easier access the Indian reservation and the people who live on it can get it easier. TMILLIGAN789
DeleteAlcohol and drugs do seem to be a big problem on the Indian reservations after watching the video and then reading. But this could be compared to that alcohol and drugs are a problem everywhere like the gentlemen above said, but it is to an extent. We have many different things so that alcohol bottles and beer cans are not just laying out in the open space we have people pick them up for community service and etc. It does not seem that way on the Reservations so if there is just bottles and cans of beer and alcohol every where then the children could get the impression that it is alright to drink. I think there is a difference when comparing the alcohol and drug problem on the reservation to Illinois or another state because we do not have the excess bottles and cans laying places.
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DeleteI agree where MH789 where he states that while the state of Illinois isn't as bad as the Indian reservation, the fact is, drugs and alcohol can be found everywhere. There is not a single area of the world where people don’t use alcohol, use drugs, or drive intoxicated. This is present everywhere and is not going away anytime soon. Jon787
DeleteI absolutely agree with Megan about the living conditions being a factor. Plus you did not overlook the livestock that were free and about. In the video when an officer responded to a wreck that involved the truck and two cows; it easily shows that violence is not the only problem they have to deal with. Since the reservations do not sell land to any of their population, there are no boundaries for farmer's livestock to be contained, which instantly puts motorists in danger. Noetzol789
DeleteI agree with MH789 that most cases that cops have to deal with usually have to deal with alcohol or drugs. On the video the majority of the calls that the police responded to the people were usually on drugs or were very intoxicated. Like MH789 said living conditions are a very big factor. DO789
DeleteIn my opinion I think there were many similarities between the movie and the book and how they compared.It showed really what happened behind the scenes and really what kind of crimes go on in the Indian reservation and how much area the Navajo police have to cover most of they calls on the movie had to deal with some sort of weapon like a stabbing, or the shooting I think drugs and the alcohol amounts to why they are move violent of person compared to the normal citizen. Also Indian women are the most abused by their husband probably due to the drug and alcohol abuse.Some of the officers probably arrest more people for drugs or DUI's everything then most like city cops like Peoria Police just due to the more access and how the laws are set up on the reservation. TMilligan 789
ReplyDeleteI agree there was a lot of drugs and alcohol related issues in the movie. Then in the article it opened with the two young adults being killed, one in a accident while intoxicated and the other with an ax. Obviously crimes like this occur everywhere but from the movie, article, and book it appears that it has been occurring an abundance in these areas. I think it is a problem that will need to find a solution to soon or it will result in more deaths such as the two kids from the beginning of the article.
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What really is interesting to me is that most of the Native American police women get treated so much better and respected a lot more than Native American men, by the Native American criminals. The other part that is very interesting to me is that there is no privacy or private property on any of the Indian Reservation. An interesting fact is that one of the Indian Refuge’s, Wind River, has a crime rate that is five to seven times higher than the national average. Another even more interesting fact about the Wind River Indian Reservation is that on average the life expectancy for residents is 49 years old, which as the crime report stated is twenty years fewer than the life expectancy in Iraq. In turn this data from the life expectancy of living in the Indian Refuge sums up that murder and the living conditions of the Refuge are very poor. -AEK789
ReplyDeleteI agree that it was interesting that Officer Lucy Dan said she felt that women cops were treated with respect. Typically people wouldn't respect women police officers just because their women and aren't usually as stern or strong as male police officers. But, then again most people know that it is wrong to hit a woman so when they are being arrested by a woman police officer they might think twice before getting too aggressive. Whereas, if they were being arrested by a male police officer they may not be as concerned with being too aggressive. -MH789
DeleteI agree with AEK789. Women are treat on a higher level of respect in the Native American reservations. On the city streets. its the other way around. Women cops a beaten and treated with lower respect the some rapist. I was intrigued as well to find out there was no private land. That then makes it so much more susceptible to theft and vandilization.
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I agree I thought it was pretty interesting how much better the women officers got treated on the reservations as well. I wonder if that’s a cultural thing for the Navajo though because although it is wrong to hit a woman I doubt that would be why women officers get treated better on the reservation. KAM789
DeleteOne major problem that I am continuously seeing throughout the article, the book, and the movie is the response time it takes to get to an incident. Some times it is not bad because they are relatively close but during the movie it said that sometimes they had to go 30+ miles and that was the closest one. This could be a cause of a few things such as being short handed on the number of officers, the amount of land they have to cover with the little amount of officers they have had, and others. In the article it discussed how President Obama is trying to take initiative to help reduce the crime. During this initiative the amount of officers on the reservation went from 6 to 37. Lack of officers is not the only reason the crime is so high there. The high unemployment rate, the standards of living such as water being contaminated so they have to boil it, and even some people say its haunted from the massacre in 1864 all contribute. Another thing is if an officer works in different places such as in the movie they have to know the different laws because they can vary from place to place; and its even putting the officer in danger because since the area is so large they may not have a familiarity with every aspect of it and that could put them into harm even though it does raise their awareness. President Obama is taking an initiative to help these reservations since their crime rate is so high and it is a start especially since he already helped raise the officer count from 6 to 37 in one area. The problems are being recognized and hopefully they will continue to be modified to attempt lower crime in the Reservations.
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I noticed that it took the cops a very long time to arrive where crime was happening too. But,this is also a problem in many other places. If you watch Cops, The First 48, or Panic 9-1-1 it also seems to take officers a long period of time to get to a scene. The phone calls they play last at least 10-30 minutes before the cops even arrive. It's sad because this has led to many deaths and injuries, but it's just how it works. If we had cops in every neighborhood it would be way too expensive because each cop would have to be provided weapons and vehicles. But, like you said, hopefully the crime will eventually decrease. -MH789
DeleteI noticed that as well, it took 30 minutes for them to get to some locations (even travelling at 100+ mph). They just have too much ground to cover between themselves and the scene. This is a serious understaffing issue. When the seconds count the officers are often unable to arrive on the scene on time, not at their own fault however, the service that needs to be provided is undermanned entirely. - EAB789
DeleteResponse time is definitely an issue. Navajo officers have to cover so much ground to get to where they are going, even when driving at dangerous speeds, like in the video, it takes them much longer than it would for an officer here in the city. What I find almost equally troubling is that the citizens making the call aren't expecting anything different. In the article the police chief said that after the 'surge' when response time decreased to a few minutes rather than 30, citizens often respond with something along the lines of, 'if I knew you were going to be here so soon I would have called later.' I would hope that they were only joking, but it doesn't seem to be the case. I cant see why they would wait any longer to call in a crime, even if it is an everyday occurrence. RMG789
DeleteI liked how you pointed out the unemployment rate being a factor as well as the lack of officers. Also the sometimes requirement to understand multiple state's laws only puts more responsibility of the officer who already has to cover an extremely large area. Though my biggest agreement is the small number of officers for such a large amount of land. Noetzol789
DeleteAfter reading the article, it does have many similarities with the TV show and in the textbook. This article shows what the people on the Indian reservation go through compared to the regular guy on the street. All of the people featured were killed before they had a chance to live their lives. Drug crime and drunk driving prevail on the reservations. This is the case in the TV show. By contrast, the book says how because they are short of manpower, the police try to get to every crime they can and do their job to protect others. They can't respond to everything, so have to pick what is considered the biggest threat. Jon789
ReplyDeleteI agree, the officers who are forced to pick and choose between which scenarios will be the most dangerous leaves a lot of room for error. Like we saw in the movie, simple traffic stops for rolling through a stop sign can lead to much more criminal findings, not to mention the sheer number of times simple situations turn incredibly sour for officers everywhere. -EAB789
DeleteI agree with Jon789 on the fact that a lot of people on Indian reservations have it harder than most people on streets outside of the reservations. Many students and graduates could go onto having successful lives and careers but many of them become victims to crime or become susceptible to crime after graduating because of all the alcohol, drugs, violence, and lack of crime control.
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I agree with Jon789 there are a bunch of similarities from all three sources. If there were more police officers on the reservation than many peoples lives could be saved. I also agree with what he has to say about they were killed before they got a chance to live there lives in some way or another. Just sad that people are like that, it show how messed up people are now a days. KYLE789
DeleteUnfortunately, similar scenes such as the Indian Reservations are in parts of the rest of America as well. New Orleans, Chicago, and Oakland share similar fates. However the Navajo police seem to be at a different kind of disadvantage. Like we saw in the movie, the officers have to know the laws for three different states since their jurisdiction is within that region. Having to know three different versions of the law is undoubtedly going to throw some officers off. The drug abuse and lack of private property definitely contribute to the problem as well. The high volume of drug movement distracts officers from responding to other violent crimes as well as contributing to the crime rate due to the violence that comes about through the black market trades. It seems like the Navajo police will have these issues with crime until social change comes about through the region. - EAB789
ReplyDeleteIn the film and reading this article there both dealing with people drinking and having alcohol. In Navajo people are very sad that there animals are getting hit but if you hit a animal in a regular town its not that important. The laws in Navajo are different from the laws n different areas. In the movie and in the article it took them approximately 30 mins to get to the scene and that was ridiculous because the person could of died or in very serious pain. Police shouldn't have no excuse to be late to a crime scene.
DeleteI think this proves to be a great point, this sort of crime IS everywhere. Everywhere else has the means to work to reduce it. I also agree that these Navajo police have a huge disadvantage, ranging from the land they have to cover, the number of officers on hand, and the fact that they may have to know laws for there states plus their own. Although there has been some reinforcements added, it just isn't enough. RMG789
DeleteIn the video the women officer had to handcuff the victim because of her safety. There aren't too many women officers who do that because off there own safety. In the video it doesn't have any thing involved in Obama administration but in the article the Obama is involved because it will help out with crime priority a lot.
ReplyDeleteA lot of the facts in this article are extremely troubling. Wind River only had six officers before the surge for the entire reservation, and even after that they only gain thirty-one new officers. The few cops that are part of the reservation are trying their best to minimize crime, but very little back up and resources make it difficult to do so. The article said that Wind River didn't even have the means to track crime. I know that reservations have their own justice system among many things, but they are still technically a part of this country, I am not entirely convinced that the state is doing everything to help these people. The high unemployment rate is also an issue, in our book we learned that with higher unemployment, the more crime occurs. The video said that 'pay day' on reservations is a time when crime is higher as well. It just seems that the quality of life is lower on reservations like this, its become a part of their lives. They don't know how or have the means to effect a positive change.
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DeletePolice was getting to the scene late and that was disappointing because it could of been a serious injury. You see that in america there has been killing and car accidents but when you go to India or Navajo you will see its a lot of drug dealing going on. It was very interesting watching the article, film and reading the book. Officers are all dealing with criminals and the criminal act that's going on in America and all over the world. It will always be something going on wrong in the criminal poverty.
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I agree with Shalonda789 with the fact that the cops arrival time was at a highly slow pace. A lot of injuries and even deaths could be prevented if they had a much faster arrival time. But then again that’s do to the fact that there are very few officers tending to a massive area of land.
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I agree with Shalonda789 with the fact that they do take a long time to get to the scene, but yet it is not their fault they take such a long way to go and such a short time to get there, especially when there are such few officers and they each have to travel 30 miles to the nearest crime scene or accident. -AEK789
Deletei agree with Shalonda789. Police do have issues with arrival time and fighting crime. I believe its because of the under staffing. Most of the Native land have only 1 cop for ever 50 miles. However there are places over staffed and over populated. An over population of people with hinder both the arrival time and high crime rates. SM789
DeleteWatching the video about policing on Indian reservations and reading the article about it really gave me a perspective on how hard it is to prevent crime in these areas. One reason I learned from this is that it can be difficult because there can be up to one hundred cops in a reservation or 36 cops for a 400 mile reservation, either way it’s still insufficient help. Another thing I learned is that there is no private property which increases the crime rate significantly because the residents have no boundaries as to where they can go or where they can be. All of this causes there to be a high rate of crime and difficulty to control it.
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I agree with CEM789 because 36 cops for a 400 mile reservation seems to be a little low, but it was even worse just a little bit ago, before they increased the size of the force, because each cop had to cover about 57 square miles each, when the task force only had seven cops. –AEK789
DeleteI agree I thought is was a little depressing how much ground there was to cover compared to how few officers they had on the reservation. I also found it interesting how used to the crime people are on the reservation, which just goes to show how understaffed the police on the reservation are since the citizens aren’t used to a fast response time, but at the same time it appears that even if the response time was faster it wouldn’t be appreciated anyway. KAM789
DeleteIt is unfortunate to read about and see how high the crime rates are on reservations like the one in the film. The first thing that I had noticed was the slow response times. In the film one of the officers stated that the car accident she was heading to was just over thirty miles away, and she was the closest unit. The biggest problem in these areas were no doubt the use of illegal drugs and the abuse of alcohol (drunk driving). It is quite obvious that if the reservations had more officers to cover the large amount of area that the crime rate would plummet; and it's nice to see that the government has recently been taking initiative to do so. Increasing the number of police from 6 to 37 is a huge step for the reservation, but it is still clear that more has to be done. Noetzol789
ReplyDeleteAs sad as it is to read this article its all a hard truth. The short staffing of the American Indian reservation. to the extreme murder and abuse rates in them as well. I found it shocking the size of a reservation and to only have 300 police to cover almost land that crosses over 4 different states. I was worried for one officer in the show who couldn't wait for back up as he enters a known drug house to find another possible perpetrator. In that house he found a plethora of blunt and edge weapons that house held. Then another female officer wasn't able to receive back up for a call where a man was threatening a women with a big tractor.
ReplyDeleteAs sad as it is to read this article its all a hard truth. The short staffing of the American Indian reservation. to the extreme murder and abuse rates in them as well. I found it shocking the size of a reservation and to only have 300 police to cover almost land that crosses over 4 different states. I was worried for one officer in the show who couldn't wait for back up as he enters a known drug house to find another possible perpetrator. In that house he found a plethora of blunt and edge weapons that house held. Then another female officer wasn't able to receive back up for a call where a man was threatening a women with a big tractor. SM789
ReplyDeleteI agree with SM789 it is shocking to have only 300 police to cover all of that land across those four states. They should hire more police officers for those four states for the Indian reservations. it will help out in the long run and probably save a bunch more lives and protect the streets for there community's. KYLE789
DeleteI'm glad you mentioned the incedent about the man allegedly threateing a women with a tractor. This type of event is something that can make a person go speechless, and we would probably think no one out side of a reservation would do this or has ever done this, right?
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I feel that the article and the movie/show we watched in class are very similar. In the article it shows how different people are then the states, and even in the show it said people are so much different here. For example in the article it says about an axe attack, same thing happen in the show. It just shows how careless people are on the Indian reservations, like that high school drop out rate is more there then it is in the states. I feel like they over react over the smallest things, like someone taking something from there property. That does not give someone the right to hit someone with a tractor. Things are just so much different on an Indian reservation then the states. KYLE789
ReplyDeleteI agree with kyle the article and the show we watched are very similar. They both show us how different the people are on the reservation than compared to the ones back in the states. There is a dramatic change with the carelessness between people on reservation and people in the states.
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DeleteThroughout reading the book and watching the video it is very eye opening as to what goes on, on an indian reservation. As i observed the drug and aclcohol situations throughout the video on the navajo reservation, the drug and alcohol situations seem to be abused more often because of the lower income families. I find it very shocking that there are very few officers compared to the amount of area that they have to cover. Some people may think that because of the amount of officers that patrol the area that they will be able to get away with more because maybe they wont drive so far for something that might not be a big deal to some. I noticed in the video that the police were arriving to the scene late. Arriving to the scene late could be a bad thing like if somebody was dying. DO789
ReplyDeleteCrime is crime no matter where it is committed. From the southside of Peoria to the desolate plains of Navajo reservations. Even from just reading and viewing the movie, it is evident that there are cultures that may seem different and even "bizzare" have crime like "ordinary" US citizens, but even more astounding than that is the fact that they have a full body of organize police men and women pursuing justice. From my observations there is nothing above the law to the Navajo police. They use the same tactics, communication, mannerisms, weapons, etc as police here in Peoria. They aren't dressed like native americans, but are garbed in uniform. They have the full capability to arrest and use force if necessary. As I said, crime is crime no matter where it is committed Alex789
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the article and watching the video I can understand how the Navajo police are understaffed considering they have a lot of ground to cover. I thought it was interesting how the laws on the reservation were different, for instance on the reservation there was no private property, land could only be leased from the reservation. It isn’t surprising that would lead to property disputes. I also found it interesting that in addition to knowing the reservation laws the Navajo officers had to know the laws from the several states the reservation span across. I wouldn’t be surprised if that leads to a lot of paperwork confusion or just general frustration. KAM789
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