I understand that every one is different and given our genetic make up determining what sex we are and who we are as an individual. Being influenced my our inner workings molds us into how we interact and think day to day. Considering that we must know that things will always be different and changing throughout life especially people and there thoughts and decisions. The ways of life have changed fast with technology but I do not believe we have or may not ever have laws or ideas on how society should interact to make it equal for all. I do believe that things are getting better in some countries more then others. Nick246
I agree, that more women have high-profile jobs like being in the military and in technology. I think women have just as much drive to be successful as men rather it is in the military, technology or even in sports and business. I believe it won’t be for long that we will have a woman as President of the United States. I think it is a good thing that people are looking past sex now and going with the best person for the job. It took an long time in the United States for it to change, but I’m glad that it has. If you are qualified for the job it doesn’t matter what your gender is. Kevin246
I truly believe that women can measure up to the same ability as men even though men and women differ genetically. The only reason why people think women can’t work in areas, such as the military which are mainly meant for men, is because of society’s definition of a woman. Men and women in the military gives us a reasonable explanation on why we are equal; because when they all come home they all have a hard time dealing with transitioning from the life of a soldier to the life of a civilian again. With that being said I think women can dominate some fields that men are predominantly known to dominate and vise versa. LadiKay_246
I agree with your last statement completely. Sex does not dictate the abilities of an individual. Society and social norms make us think of types of work in terms of gender. Case in point, I have a male friend that is six foot tall and weighs three hundred and sixty pounds and played college football, massive manly type of guy, who is a stay at home dad. I personally find this to be a great example because social norms tell us that his size and ability to play football at a collegian level makes him less feminine but his chosen profession is typically female dominated. Glide246
Women make up 23 percent of the state legislators as recently as 2011. That is up from just 6 percent of Women making up the state legislators in 1970, which shows us that this country as come an long way. Women hold 17 of 100 seats in the senate. I think we will have a woman president in 2016, even though people that are ridged won’t like it. There are still some people out there that are ridged and don’t want a woman as President. They even don’t like Barack Obama as President. Most of the country is changing and 23 percent of women state legislators is the proof. Kevin246
I agree with all of you. Taking a step back though and looking at this from a neutral view, yes woman can be in combat, but what happens when they are outside the wire for a couple weeks and they are surrounded and outnumbered by men? The video even hinted on sexual assault. I am currently in the military and I tell you what I have never had to go through so much sexual assault training in my life. Its becoming a huge deal. I think, unfortunately, that if more woman go into combat there will be an increase in sexual assault. Think about it, they're out there, if this does occur its not like she can call the police or anything of that nature. I just wanted to throw that out there so we all think about it. Gross246
Sex doesn't determine anything. A women can do anything a man can do and vice versa. Society puts gender to high on credentials for a job. Women can protect this country just as well. It's such a shame our country is so blind to that. josko246
I concur. I wrote in my response a similar response. I think women and men need each other in the job field. I remember Dr. White discussing how men just want results, and women question the process to get the result. However, working together you will get a great result and a great process to get it. starburst246
I completely agree gender does not determine our capabilities, women are capable of doing the same things a man can do, like we talked about in class we are conditioned to think that men are stronger than us but it's far from the truth, I definitely believe in gender equality, -heartsiized246
I found it shocking that a female veteran was asked to leave a post-traumatic stress disorder support group. I also found it interesting that the sisters making gender specific comments to each other about the one sister caring for the other and doing house work as being the wife. I did not expect to hear that from two women, I had only experienced men making those types of comments to each other before. This video made me wonder what the thought process is of a sexist person that justifies their belief that women should not be in combat. I understand that on average men are thirty percent stronger especially in the upper body as noted in our textbook, but that is an average. I personally know of women that are physically stronger than some men. Also isn’t there a physical requirement for the military, successful completion of boot camp etc. The physical requirements should be appropriate for the tasks to be performed. Therefore only successful completion of the physical and mental testing would allow entrance into military service regardless of sex. Glide246
That sexist way of thinking is due to how the rest of our society views women, not how we as individuals see them. If everyone could see that they're just as tough and can do the same things as men in at least the military, then maybe some of those sexist stereotypes could finally disappear. -alterend246
Some women are physically and emotionally stronger than some men. And some men are more femine and softer than women. I don't think it was sexist when the sister said you are acting like a wife. That was a general compairson to the work load she was doing. I often tell my husband that I need a wife. It would be nice to have a little help with the house and kids. Because that she was a women was the reason she was not getting help she needed and her male peers where getting. It is sad that this day and age there is still such an inequality. GMD246
I agree when you said that people think women are the weaker sex in all things not considered feminine, and the video proves it wrong. Jen and Genevieve always talk about feeling "guilty" about leaving their unit and that is a clear proof that they are just as stronger as any men in the military. Doglover246.
Doglover246, I agree with you. They proved they are just as strong. It is also easy for people to say hold on its getting better. They are not in fire so to say.
I understand that women are born to care for other, to look pretty. I remember as a child my parents used to say "girls play with girls and boys play with boys." Society is changing and changes need to be done. Women are facing a lot of challenging in the military just like men, unlike years ago when women were in combat as nurses. It is unfair to see stories and struggles that Genevieve and Jen have lived. Someone serving their Country should have all the respect. It is a shame the fact that there are 6,500 homeless female veterans on America's streets today. Someone that has risked their own life to serve the country should not be left behind. Women are so strong and so proud for serving regardless of what they are feeling. All they could think of was their military unit, people that needed them, the " guilty" that they felt for not be able to control the fact that they had to leave. Congratulation to all female veteran who struggle and face discrimination. They are strong as a rock. Doglover246
I agree with you. Someone who is serving our country, should not be left behind. So why are they? It is a shame that all those women are becoming homeless after serving us.They should be able to come home, to a home. Society is changing and we are a part of society. So let's help make that change. We need more men to be excepting of women to help make this change. CooCoo246
Our veterans are treated terribly once they get back to the States. This video showed me that women are treated far more worse than the men, and that is truly sad. Any veteran who needs help should receive it, no questions asked. I'm proud to say that our country allows women in the military. They should be proud too, and not get treated the way that they are. josko246
Women being in the military shows us that we have come a long way as a country. It used to be unheard of that a woman would be in the military. Women do just as good of a job in the military as men do. More and more women want to join the military. Doing World War II in 1940 only 2 percent of Women in the United States served in the military. In 2010, 15 percent of U.S Women served in the military including deployed troops. I got no problem with a woman wanted to served their country. Women have a right to serve their country just like men do. Women are better educated and score higher on the intelligence test that men do. A man can get injured in battle as much as a woman can. The fear of injury shouldn’t stop women from joining the military if they want too. I was shocked to find out that women deal with post-battle trauma than men. They do struggle to deal with it like men, but unlike men, women don’t go insane over post-battle trauma. They find something else to keep them going rather it’s their family or their job. Kevin246
I totally agree with you Kevin! I feel like the way that both these women handled the struggles of coming back from war was amazing and that both ended in positive ways. For example, Jen ended up getting married and having a baby and now goes around talking to colleges and university's about what she had to go through. Then there's Genevieve who now helps other women who are war veterans and created a support group. It just shows that even after all the hard ships these women faced that they were able to bounce back and help other women going through the same things. In the book it talks about Talcott and how in his observations women take the position of taking care of the household and raising children, but I would have to disagree and say that a man could take on that role too and I've heard of a women being the main provider of the family and the husband staying home to take care of the kids and doing the cooking and cleaning. I feel like women don't get enough credit for being able to accomplish the same tough situations as men and how some people don't think that we can handle as much as males can. Katie246
I totally agree with you Kevin! I feel like the way that both these women handled the struggles of coming back from war was amazing and that both ended in positive ways. For example, Jen ended up getting married and having a baby and now goes around talking to colleges and university's about what she had to go through. Then there's Genevieve who now helps other women who are war veterans and created a support group. It just shows that even after all the hard ships these women faced that they were able to bounce back and help other women going through the same things. In the book it talks about Talcott and how in his observations women take the position of taking care of the household and raising children, but I would have to disagree and say that a man could take on that role too and I've heard of a women being the main provider of the family and the husband staying home to take care of the kids and doing the cooking and cleaning. I feel like women don't get enough credit for being able to accomplish the same tough situations as men and how some people don't think that we can handle as much as males can. kmoney246 (used the wrong name above)
I think we view the growth of numbers of women in the service as growth in the country but i think the reality is women have been in the service for years, even when it wasn't necessarily acceptable. They were jut hiding behind short hair and hidden breasts. Women had been hiding as men unrecognized for years because they were not "allowed". So it not necessarily a positive movement for the country, its just the government saying its OK for us to be doing something that's been happening longer than they would like to admit, because women's need to nurture can also be an overwhelming feeling to protect and its been in our DNA all this time! Mfroggyus246
Genevieve and Jen were such good examples of women who can get through the hard obstacles that the female gender has to face after coming back from war. You can really see in Jen how upset she was that she couldn't stay over there and that she was disappointed that she was coming home. I feel like I would be like her mom and I would be thrilled to be leaving there to come home. The same goes towards Genevieve and how when her unit was getting ready to deploy for the second time she felt bad that she wasn't going with them. It just shows how committed they were to being in the military and how even after almost dying twice like Genevieve experienced she still wanted to go into combat. Its crazy to read that in World War II there were only 2% of women who served in the armed forces and how big of a difference there is now. I think that a lot of people do see women as nurturers like how the book says, but like the ladies in this video who prove this statement wrong, they should be treated equally and get the same opportunities as the men do who are in the military. I wish I could be as strong as these ladies and applaud them for serving our country! kmoney246
I believe women in general are alot tougher than they are given credit for. I served next to women and men alike and there were female I would choose to have by my side in a hostile situation alot faster than one of the males. Women as a whole will always be nurturers, even as service members. Women tend to hide the pain, hide the fear and push forward doing the job, they feel responsible for the lives around them, their "battle buddies". This to is a nurturing ability in women, to protect the people around them. Female soldier are in no way less of a fighter or soldier than a man, they just get double duty, soldier and nurturer. Mfroggyus246
This was a hard video for me to watch. None of you know this but I am a female veteran who get treatment thru the v.a for PTSD. I only qualify for mental benefit and not medical benefits currently because I was not in an infantry position. I have to go thru a long process of claims for benefit to get my medical coverage. It is hard enough to be shoved back into civilian life after years of mikitary structure and protcal, let alone dealing with something that makes you want to hide from the rest of the world. I don't feel any vet should have to beg and go thru judicial type proceeding to get their benefits, they should jut be given, but unfortunately it is the way it is. I don't talk about my service much, I am proud of the choices I made, but it i a hard reality to deal with that some of my friends and unit members who were more like family than one of my family members aren't home watching their kids grow up, or enjoying a cookout, just day to day life in general. Mfroggyus246
As a woman, I myself overlooked the fact that women are Veterans. These two girls have gone through so much and this has opened my eyes. It's truly sad that there is not much help out there for these girls who are serving our country. Women have come a long way and are now doing what men thought they couldn't. It makes me proud to know that women are being treated equal in the military. I did not know however that women were in the services back in the day. I thought this was something new. It reminds me of the movie "Mulan." A young girl who doesn't want to see her disabled father go to war, dresses in his uniform with no fear. That shows you that women are capable of doing what a man can. This country and all countries for that fact, need to allow us women to show ourselves. Let us prove that we can do what you can do. CooCoo246
Those two girls having gone through so much post-war as open my eyes too. I also think it is sad that these girls didn’t get the help they need serving our country. I think rather you’re a Man or a Woman you should get help if you serving our country because you are risking your life to product this country. I think people that serve the military should be treated fairly. It is amazing that these two women handled post-war trauma a lot better than most men would handle it. Kevin246
A lot of people think Women shouldn’t be in the military. I don’t think like that at all. I think if a Woman wants to be in the military than they should be allowed to join just like a Man is allowed to join. I’m glad this country has gotten past the gender-bias. Woman are now allowed not only to join the military, but they are allowed to play sports, run for the senate and the house and joining the police force. I think we could have a Woman as President of the United States in 2016. We got more Women in the senate today than we had 40 years ago. We also got more Women in the military than we did 70 years. We come a long way in the United States. We no longer as much hold bias towards race and gender in the United States. It is not perfect because there is still some bias towards race and gender in the United States, but it is not as bad as it was in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. Kevin246
Have to agree with you. Women should always be able to do what and how they please. We no longer live in the past where they were or have been judged because they were a women. There should be nothing that a women can not do because of gender. Our world has changed for the better in that aspect, not so much in other regions, but we are at least focusing on the gender race of things and activities in general. feb246
I don't have any problem with women being in combat. My problem is when double standards arise. I currently am in one of the few combat jobs in the Air Force, and they just recently allowed women to enroll. Like I said I have no problem with this. I spent 6 months after basic training in Florida going through gator infested swamps, rigorous PT sessions, and lengthy ruck marches at the Air Force Special Operations Command. I bairly scrapped by. To graduate we had to do a 12 mile ruck march with 100 pounds of gear through sand and gravel in under 4 hours among other things. After I graduated this school I went on to combat survival school, an advanced skills course in Georgia, and another school in Vegas. What really irritates me is when I went through all that, it was a male only career field. Now that they have opened it up to women there will be a double standard for them, and I do not believe that is fair to all the men who had to go through these courses with those standards. It feels as if I went through all of that for nothing, if there's just going to be another standard. I am perfectly okay if women can make it through the course with the original standards, which is how it should be. If they can't make it through with the original standards then they're gone, just as the other men who tried before them and failed. Bottom line is that there should be no double standards and they should adhere to the original standards, after all we are always pushing for equal rights, right? Gross246
I completely agree with you. There should be no double standard because that is creating a social excuse that women are inferior to men even though they hold the same position. Women are perfectly capable of achieving the same standards as men. It is a social perspective that limits women to certain roles and capabilities. -Tyler246
This is probably one of the best things I have read about these kinds of subjects. I agree completely. I am all for women and men being able to serve in the military together and do it well. But, the double standard that comes with it is what would ruin the equality. There's never true equality when there is a double standard based on someone's sex/race/age..etc. It's sad that this happens to, because I feel it limits an individuals true potential. blub246
I never understood why people are so against women being in the military. Women can learn to fight just as well as men do, and if they want to fight for our country, let them. I never looked up to women in the military like I did the men because when I think of the military I think of strong men who are willing to die for their country. It wasn't until one of my closest friends left for basic training this summer that I actually looked at women in the military in a whole new way. Women have started to rise up in social climate in this country. More and more are earning seats in the Senate, House, and even Hillary Clinton served as the United States Secretary of States. That says a lot. It's sad to see that the women in the video aren't being treated fairly like the men are. Isn't this country about EQUALITY? Push comes to shove it will be the women who help the United States in the long run. josko246
I agree with you! I never looked up to a woman in the military until I had a friend go over to Iraq. She was very shy about that fact that she was even in the Army, and to this day she does not like to talk about the time she spent in Iraq. If a woman wants to go into the military, they should let them! Bullardml13-246
This video portrays how women in the military suffer PTSD. I think that men do suffer it, too. It also shows how their are few women in the war and military. I think that their should be more women in combat. I think we need women in everyday society. We also need men in the every day society. I think that women need men, and visa versa. Their shouldn't be no judgment on women being in a predominantly man's job. Also, their shouldn't be no judgment on a man being a predominantly woman's job. Sometimes the opposite sex can bring a different attitude or perspective to the job at hand. starburst 246
This video shows just how insanely ignorant I am. I feel like I knew that women served in the armed forces, but didn't really acknowledge it up until this point. It's not that I don't see being a soldier as a role a woman could play, because they certainly do and they do it just as well if not better than men, its just that I have always pictured the military as something guys do, like war is something only we can do. Maybe it's society brainwashing me or maybe I'm just extremely ignorant, probably a little of both, but this was truly an eyeopener for me. It caused me to realize that women DO serve in the military and do everything that the men do, and suffer all the repercussions of combat that anyone else would under those circumstances. -alterend246
I think that since the military is becoming more equal to males and females the benefits should be equal as well. I think that it is great that the United States military is now letting women in to infantry units and allowing them to be apart of the more dangerous units, but they should be held to the same standards that the men are held to. If people truly want to have gender equality in the military then women should be held to the same standards and receive the same benefits. I thought that it was horrible that women are being denied treatment for PTSD simply because they are a woman. It was nice to see that the two women in the video had made a change for the better and was starting programs to help other women veterans. I thought it was great to see her give speeches to colleges about PTSD and tell her story to countless strangers. Overall I think that gender inequality is unfair and there is going to be a long struggle until the United States has an equal society but we are moving forward. -Tyler246
I agree what the same services need to be avilable for both men and women. Our society I think sees these women is some way and a man or manly. That they should be tough and just deal since they wanted to serve. I also feel that these women do have more pressure or responsilbity on them once they return home as their male counter parts. It would be nice is there was some sort of program availble for their families on signs, symptoms, and things they to can do to help me back into civilian live. GMD246
I totally agree with this comment. I mean it;s like they are being punished for wanting to do "a mans job" and thats not fair. Men today are able to recieve way more benifits than women and its not just in the military. For example most insurance companies will cover the drug Viagara for men but then refuse to cover certain contraceptives for women! The society we live in has gotten a little better on equal rights and services for men and women but topics like this makes it obvious we have a long way to go! JessMe246
The military has always been a touchy subject with me, but like plenty of people above me have said, it never really clicked why people hated women in the military..and it wasn't because of performance issues, it's only because of their sex and gender. That's the worst kind of way to put someone down. Society places these stigmas on the female gender/sex and it carries over across the globe! These stereotypes have such negative attitudes toward them, it limits and hinders all women. Every woman who enters the military and fights for our country, has more guts and heart than I ever will and I will respect any and all who do. I'm glad the military in the U.S has finally come down from being a male only combat thing is amazing, and guarantee nobody ever thought it would happen. blub246
I actually enjoyed this video tremendously! Just because you are a woman doesn’t mean that you the experience you had was any different. It’s sad to see a veteran, woman or man, be treated like what they did, didn’t matter. My fiancé’s best friend served a couple duties in Afghanistan, and it changes your mental attitude. What those people see over there is way beyond what most of us could imagine. If someone needs help for PTSD, it should not matter their gender. It just shocks me that they say women aren’t in combat, when they are being attacked! It’s sad that some of these people make it an issue. What brave women these women were for standing up and making a change for the future veterans! They are making a difference now, and it will change things in the future for women veterans! These women are far braver than I will ever be! Bullardml13-246
This video explains how women veterans suffer PTSD. I think everyone suffers from it after being in combat. I do however think that women are thrown back into their role in society far more quickley than their male counterparts. Women are the general do all in the home and most now work which adds more stress especially after returning from combat. While most men have a spouse, partner or parent who has been taking care of all these thing while they were gone and continue to do so. I feel that the military needs to do more for our veterans, male or female. Not enough is done and thousand of people are suffering and not getting the help they need. You can not bring back a solider back from combat and expect them to join into citizenship as if nothing happened. There needs a time to cope, treat and heal for every solider. GMS246
These two women in this video are just a pinch of how many other women in the US are suffering from PTSD. I could never imagine what any one of these soldiers are going through, they are definitely heros in any way shape or form. I found it interesting that some women back in the day would disguise themselves as men to go out and fight, back then women were always the ones to stay back and take care so for those women to go out and want to fight shows a lot. Those are the women that had some guts to go out and defend their country. I am glad that there are women stepping up and forming supportive groups for veterans so that there can be someone to turn to and is easy to find rather than trying to suffer through PTSD. One number that really hit me hard was that there are 6,500 FEMALE veterans that are homeless. How are we not helping and supporting or funding them when they come out of the service? What they do and go through for us there should never be any left without homes. feb246
So many people in the military suffer with PTSD and most of them don't even realize they have it, in a way I can understand why there would be a stigma with PTSD in women who have been in the military, this is where gender roles come in, when you think about a women in the military you don't think about them having the same role as a man so its almost as if you feel that they cant possibly experience the same things as a man would in the military but unfortunately thats not the case at all. A lot of these women go through the same things as a man, they turn to drug use, and shut down instead of being treated like they should because they don't realize that what they have is PTSD, I think its awesome that they have programs out there to help suffers of this disorder, its definitely not something thats easy to live with or cope with, I have seen so many homeless people on the streets because PTSD has dragged them down and completely tore their lives apart. -heartsiized246
Watching this video has realy opened my eyes on women in the military. I think that these two women are very brave individuals and I couldnt imagine going through what each of them did. It's very rare that you hear about women with PTSD. To know that 6500 women veteran were homeless was a great shock to me. To be honest before this video I never really thought abiout the fact that these women had to be just as tough as men. The young lady who downplayed her own injuries from the bombing is very couragous battling her own agonizing pain while providing help for the more seriously injured. Before watching this video I thought that women in the military had a much easier job than men. They sustain the same depression, and loss as that of a man. I always thought that the soldiers would be glad to go home but to hear both women say they hated to go home and that they felt a sense of guilt for not completing their job changed that thought. To hear the young lady say that cocaine was her only way to cope with society after the military broke my heart because here she was an average american who only wanted to serve her country. It is good to know that more help is available for women with PTSD but it is sad to hear of all those others who could not get help because it was not available. When I think of homeless vets women never came to mind. I'm so glad that more awarness is being brought t this serious issue. JessMe246
I understand that every one is different and given our genetic make up determining what sex we are and who we are as an individual. Being influenced my our inner workings molds us into how we interact and think day to day. Considering that we must know that things will always be different and changing throughout life especially people and there thoughts and decisions. The ways of life have changed fast with technology but I do not believe we have or may not ever have laws or ideas on how society should interact to make it equal for all. I do believe that things are getting better in some countries more then others.
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I agree, that more women have high-profile jobs like being in the military and in technology. I think women have just as much drive to be successful as men rather it is in the military, technology or even in sports and business. I believe it won’t be for long that we will have a woman as President of the United States. I think it is a good thing that people are looking past sex now and going with the best person for the job. It took an long time in the United States for it to change, but I’m glad that it has. If you are qualified for the job it doesn’t matter what your gender is.
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I truly believe that women can measure up to the same ability as men even though men and women differ genetically. The only reason why people think women can’t work in areas, such as the military which are mainly meant for men, is because of society’s definition of a woman. Men and women in the military gives us a reasonable explanation on why we are equal; because when they all come home they all have a hard time dealing with transitioning from the life of a soldier to the life of a civilian again. With that being said I think women can dominate some fields that men are predominantly known to dominate and vise versa. LadiKay_246
ReplyDeleteI agree with your last statement completely. Sex does not dictate the abilities of an individual. Society and social norms make us think of types of work in terms of gender. Case in point, I have a male friend that is six foot tall and weighs three hundred and sixty pounds and played college football, massive manly type of guy, who is a stay at home dad. I personally find this to be a great example because social norms tell us that his size and ability to play football at a collegian level makes him less feminine but his chosen profession is typically female dominated.
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Women make up 23 percent of the state legislators as recently as 2011. That is up from just 6 percent of Women making up the state legislators in 1970, which shows us that this country as come an long way. Women hold 17 of 100 seats in the senate. I think we will have a woman president in 2016, even though people that are ridged won’t like it. There are still some people out there that are ridged and don’t want a woman as President. They even don’t like Barack Obama as President. Most of the country is changing and 23 percent of women state legislators is the proof.
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I agree with all of you. Taking a step back though and looking at this from a neutral view, yes woman can be in combat, but what happens when they are outside the wire for a couple weeks and they are surrounded and outnumbered by men? The video even hinted on sexual assault. I am currently in the military and I tell you what I have never had to go through so much sexual assault training in my life. Its becoming a huge deal. I think, unfortunately, that if more woman go into combat there will be an increase in sexual assault. Think about it, they're out there, if this does occur its not like she can call the police or anything of that nature. I just wanted to throw that out there so we all think about it.
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Sex doesn't determine anything. A women can do anything a man can do and vice versa. Society puts gender to high on credentials for a job. Women can protect this country just as well. It's such a shame our country is so blind to that.
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I concur. I wrote in my response a similar response. I think women and men need each other in the job field. I remember Dr. White discussing how men just want results, and women question the process to get the result. However, working together you will get a great result and a great process to get it. starburst246
DeleteI completely agree gender does not determine our capabilities, women are capable of doing the same things a man can do, like we talked about in class we are conditioned to think that men are stronger than us but it's far from the truth, I definitely believe in gender equality,
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I found it shocking that a female veteran was asked to leave a post-traumatic stress disorder support group. I also found it interesting that the sisters making gender specific comments to each other about the one sister caring for the other and doing house work as being the wife. I did not expect to hear that from two women, I had only experienced men making those types of comments to each other before. This video made me wonder what the thought process is of a sexist person that justifies their belief that women should not be in combat. I understand that on average men are thirty percent stronger especially in the upper body as noted in our textbook, but that is an average. I personally know of women that are physically stronger than some men. Also isn’t there a physical requirement for the military, successful completion of boot camp etc. The physical requirements should be appropriate for the tasks to be performed. Therefore only successful completion of the physical and mental testing would allow entrance into military service regardless of sex.
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That sexist way of thinking is due to how the rest of our society views women, not how we as individuals see them. If everyone could see that they're just as tough and can do the same things as men in at least the military, then maybe some of those sexist stereotypes could finally disappear.
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Some women are physically and emotionally stronger than some men. And some men are more femine and softer than women. I don't think it was sexist when the sister said you are acting like a wife. That was a general compairson to the work load she was doing. I often tell my husband that I need a wife. It would be nice to have a little help with the house and kids. Because that she was a women was the reason she was not getting help she needed and her male peers where getting. It is sad that this day and age there is still such an inequality. GMD246
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ReplyDeleteI agree when you said that people think women are the weaker sex in all things not considered feminine, and the video proves it wrong. Jen and Genevieve always talk about feeling "guilty" about leaving their unit and that is a clear proof that they are just as stronger as any men in the military. Doglover246.
DeleteDoglover246, I agree with you. They proved they are just as strong. It is also easy for people to say hold on its getting better. They are not in fire so to say.
DeleteI understand that women are born to care for other, to look pretty. I remember as a child my parents used to say "girls play with girls and boys play with boys." Society is changing and changes need to be done. Women are facing a lot of challenging in the military just like men, unlike years ago when women were in combat as nurses. It is unfair to see stories and struggles that Genevieve and Jen have lived. Someone serving their Country should have all the respect. It is a shame the fact that there are 6,500 homeless female veterans on America's streets today. Someone that has risked their own life to serve the country should not be left behind. Women are so strong and so proud for serving regardless of what they are feeling. All they could think of was their military unit, people that needed them, the " guilty" that they felt for not be able to control the fact that they had to leave. Congratulation to all female veteran who struggle and face discrimination. They are strong as a rock. Doglover246
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. Someone who is serving our country, should not be left behind. So why are they? It is a shame that all those women are becoming homeless after serving us.They should be able to come home, to a home. Society is changing and we are a part of society. So let's help make that change. We need more men to be excepting of women to help make this change. CooCoo246
DeleteOur veterans are treated terribly once they get back to the States. This video showed me that women are treated far more worse than the men, and that is truly sad. Any veteran who needs help should receive it, no questions asked. I'm proud to say that our country allows women in the military. They should be proud too, and not get treated the way that they are.
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Women being in the military shows us that we have come a long way as a country. It used to be unheard of that a woman would be in the military. Women do just as good of a job in the military as men do. More and more women want to join the military. Doing World War II in 1940 only 2 percent of Women in the United States served in the military. In 2010, 15 percent of U.S Women served in the military including deployed troops. I got no problem with a woman wanted to served their country. Women have a right to serve their country just like men do. Women are better educated and score higher on the intelligence test that men do. A man can get injured in battle as much as a woman can. The fear of injury shouldn’t stop women from joining the military if they want too. I was shocked to find out that women deal with post-battle trauma than men. They do struggle to deal with it like men, but unlike men, women don’t go insane over post-battle trauma. They find something else to keep them going rather it’s their family or their job.
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I totally agree with you Kevin! I feel like the way that both these women handled the struggles of coming back from war was amazing and that both ended in positive ways. For example, Jen ended up getting married and having a baby and now goes around talking to colleges and university's about what she had to go through. Then there's Genevieve who now helps other women who are war veterans and created a support group. It just shows that even after all the hard ships these women faced that they were able to bounce back and help other women going through the same things. In the book it talks about Talcott and how in his observations women take the position of taking care of the household and raising children, but I would have to disagree and say that a man could take on that role too and I've heard of a women being the main provider of the family and the husband staying home to take care of the kids and doing the cooking and cleaning. I feel like women don't get enough credit for being able to accomplish the same tough situations as men and how some people don't think that we can handle as much as males can. Katie246
DeleteI totally agree with you Kevin! I feel like the way that both these women handled the struggles of coming back from war was amazing and that both ended in positive ways. For example, Jen ended up getting married and having a baby and now goes around talking to colleges and university's about what she had to go through. Then there's Genevieve who now helps other women who are war veterans and created a support group. It just shows that even after all the hard ships these women faced that they were able to bounce back and help other women going through the same things. In the book it talks about Talcott and how in his observations women take the position of taking care of the household and raising children, but I would have to disagree and say that a man could take on that role too and I've heard of a women being the main provider of the family and the husband staying home to take care of the kids and doing the cooking and cleaning. I feel like women don't get enough credit for being able to accomplish the same tough situations as men and how some people don't think that we can handle as much as males can. kmoney246 (used the wrong name above)
DeleteI think we view the growth of numbers of women in the service as growth in the country but i think the reality is women have been in the service for years, even when it wasn't necessarily acceptable. They were jut hiding behind short hair and hidden breasts. Women had been hiding as men unrecognized for years because they were not "allowed". So it not necessarily a positive movement for the country, its just the government saying its OK for us to be doing something that's been happening longer than they would like to admit, because women's need to nurture can also be an overwhelming feeling to protect and its been in our DNA all this time! Mfroggyus246
DeleteGenevieve and Jen were such good examples of women who can get through the hard obstacles that the female gender has to face after coming back from war. You can really see in Jen how upset she was that she couldn't stay over there and that she was disappointed that she was coming home. I feel like I would be like her mom and I would be thrilled to be leaving there to come home. The same goes towards Genevieve and how when her unit was getting ready to deploy for the second time she felt bad that she wasn't going with them. It just shows how committed they were to being in the military and how even after almost dying twice like Genevieve experienced she still wanted to go into combat. Its crazy to read that in World War II there were only 2% of women who served in the armed forces and how big of a difference there is now. I think that a lot of people do see women as nurturers like how the book says, but like the ladies in this video who prove this statement wrong, they should be treated equally and get the same opportunities as the men do who are in the military. I wish I could be as strong as these ladies and applaud them for serving our country! kmoney246
ReplyDeleteI believe women in general are alot tougher than they are given credit for. I served next to women and men alike and there were female I would choose to have by my side in a hostile situation alot faster than one of the males. Women as a whole will always be nurturers, even as service members. Women tend to hide the pain, hide the fear and push forward doing the job, they feel responsible for the lives around them, their "battle buddies". This to is a nurturing ability in women, to protect the people around them. Female soldier are in no way less of a fighter or soldier than a man, they just get double duty, soldier and nurturer. Mfroggyus246
DeleteThis was a hard video for me to watch. None of you know this but I am a female veteran who get treatment thru the v.a for PTSD. I only qualify for mental benefit and not medical benefits currently because I was not in an infantry position. I have to go thru a long process of claims for benefit to get my medical coverage. It is hard enough to be shoved back into civilian life after years of mikitary structure and protcal, let alone dealing with something that makes you want to hide from the rest of the world. I don't feel any vet should have to beg and go thru judicial type proceeding to get their benefits, they should jut be given, but unfortunately it is the way it is. I don't talk about my service much, I am proud of the choices I made, but it i a hard reality to deal with that some of my friends and unit members who were more like family than one of my family members aren't home watching their kids grow up, or enjoying a cookout, just day to day life in general. Mfroggyus246
ReplyDeleteAs a woman, I myself overlooked the fact that women are Veterans. These two girls have gone through so much and this has opened my eyes. It's truly sad that there is not much help out there for these girls who are serving our country. Women have come a long way and are now doing what men thought they couldn't. It makes me proud to know that women are being treated equal in the military. I did not know however that women were in the services back in the day. I thought this was something new. It reminds me of the movie "Mulan." A young girl who doesn't want to see her disabled father go to war, dresses in his uniform with no fear. That shows you that women are capable of doing what a man can. This country and all countries for that fact, need to allow us women to show ourselves. Let us prove that we can do what you can do. CooCoo246
ReplyDeleteThose two girls having gone through so much post-war as open my eyes too. I also think it is sad that these girls didn’t get the help they need serving our country. I think rather you’re a Man or a Woman you should get help if you serving our country because you are risking your life to product this country. I think people that serve the military should be treated fairly. It is amazing that these two women handled post-war trauma a lot better than most men would handle it.
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A lot of people think Women shouldn’t be in the military. I don’t think like that at all. I think if a Woman wants to be in the military than they should be allowed to join just like a Man is allowed to join. I’m glad this country has gotten past the gender-bias. Woman are now allowed not only to join the military, but they are allowed to play sports, run for the senate and the house and joining the police force. I think we could have a Woman as President of the United States in 2016. We got more Women in the senate today than we had 40 years ago. We also got more Women in the military than we did 70 years. We come a long way in the United States. We no longer as much hold bias towards race and gender in the United States. It is not perfect because there is still some bias towards race and gender in the United States, but it is not as bad as it was in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.
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Have to agree with you. Women should always be able to do what and how they please. We no longer live in the past where they were or have been judged because they were a women. There should be nothing that a women can not do because of gender. Our world has changed for the better in that aspect, not so much in other regions, but we are at least focusing on the gender race of things and activities in general. feb246
DeleteI don't have any problem with women being in combat. My problem is when double standards arise. I currently am in one of the few combat jobs in the Air Force, and they just recently allowed women to enroll. Like I said I have no problem with this. I spent 6 months after basic training in Florida going through gator infested swamps, rigorous PT sessions, and lengthy ruck marches at the Air Force Special Operations Command. I bairly scrapped by. To graduate we had to do a 12 mile ruck march with 100 pounds of gear through sand and gravel in under 4 hours among other things. After I graduated this school I went on to combat survival school, an advanced skills course in Georgia, and another school in Vegas. What really irritates me is when I went through all that, it was a male only career field. Now that they have opened it up to women there will be a double standard for them, and I do not believe that is fair to all the men who had to go through these courses with those standards. It feels as if I went through all of that for nothing, if there's just going to be another standard. I am perfectly okay if women can make it through the course with the original standards, which is how it should be. If they can't make it through with the original standards then they're gone, just as the other men who tried before them and failed. Bottom line is that there should be no double standards and they should adhere to the original standards, after all we are always pushing for equal rights, right?
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I completely agree with you. There should be no double standard because that is creating a social excuse that women are inferior to men even though they hold the same position. Women are perfectly capable of achieving the same standards as men. It is a social perspective that limits women to certain roles and capabilities. -Tyler246
DeleteThis is probably one of the best things I have read about these kinds of subjects. I agree completely. I am all for women and men being able to serve in the military together and do it well. But, the double standard that comes with it is what would ruin the equality. There's never true equality when there is a double standard based on someone's sex/race/age..etc. It's sad that this happens to, because I feel it limits an individuals true potential.
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I never understood why people are so against women being in the military. Women can learn to fight just as well as men do, and if they want to fight for our country, let them. I never looked up to women in the military like I did the men because when I think of the military I think of strong men who are willing to die for their country. It wasn't until one of my closest friends left for basic training this summer that I actually looked at women in the military in a whole new way. Women have started to rise up in social climate in this country. More and more are earning seats in the Senate, House, and even Hillary Clinton served as the United States Secretary of States. That says a lot. It's sad to see that the women in the video aren't being treated fairly like the men are. Isn't this country about EQUALITY? Push comes to shove it will be the women who help the United States in the long run.
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I agree with you! I never looked up to a woman in the military until I had a friend go over to Iraq. She was very shy about that fact that she was even in the Army, and to this day she does not like to talk about the time she spent in Iraq. If a woman wants to go into the military, they should let them! Bullardml13-246
DeleteThis video portrays how women in the military suffer PTSD. I think that men do suffer it, too. It also shows how their are few women in the war and military. I think that their should be more women in combat. I think we need women in everyday society. We also need men in the every day society. I think that women need men, and visa versa. Their shouldn't be no judgment on women being in a predominantly man's job. Also, their shouldn't be no judgment on a man being a predominantly woman's job. Sometimes the opposite sex can bring a different attitude or perspective to the job at hand. starburst 246
ReplyDeleteThis video shows just how insanely ignorant I am. I feel like I knew that women served in the armed forces, but didn't really acknowledge it up until this point. It's not that I don't see being a soldier as a role a woman could play, because they certainly do and they do it just as well if not better than men, its just that I have always pictured the military as something guys do, like war is something only we can do. Maybe it's society brainwashing me or maybe I'm just extremely ignorant, probably a little of both, but this was truly an eyeopener for me. It caused me to realize that women DO serve in the military and do everything that the men do, and suffer all the repercussions of combat that anyone else would under those circumstances.
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I think that since the military is becoming more equal to males and females the benefits should be equal as well. I think that it is great that the United States military is now letting women in to infantry units and allowing them to be apart of the more dangerous units, but they should be held to the same standards that the men are held to. If people truly want to have gender equality in the military then women should be held to the same standards and receive the same benefits. I thought that it was horrible that women are being denied treatment for PTSD simply because they are a woman. It was nice to see that the two women in the video had made a change for the better and was starting programs to help other women veterans. I thought it was great to see her give speeches to colleges about PTSD and tell her story to countless strangers. Overall I think that gender inequality is unfair and there is going to be a long struggle until the United States has an equal society but we are moving forward. -Tyler246
ReplyDeleteI agree what the same services need to be avilable for both men and women. Our society I think sees these women is some way and a man or manly. That they should be tough and just deal since they wanted to serve. I also feel that these women do have more pressure or responsilbity on them once they return home as their male counter parts. It would be nice is there was some sort of program availble for their families on signs, symptoms, and things they to can do to help me back into civilian live. GMD246
DeleteI totally agree with this comment. I mean it;s like they are being punished for wanting to do "a mans job" and thats not fair. Men today are able to recieve way more benifits than women and its not just in the military. For example most insurance companies will cover the drug Viagara for men but then refuse to cover certain contraceptives for women! The society we live in has gotten a little better on equal rights and services for men and women but topics like this makes it obvious we have a long way to go!
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The military has always been a touchy subject with me, but like plenty of people above me have said, it never really clicked why people hated women in the military..and it wasn't because of performance issues, it's only because of their sex and gender. That's the worst kind of way to put someone down. Society places these stigmas on the female gender/sex and it carries over across the globe! These stereotypes have such negative attitudes toward them, it limits and hinders all women. Every woman who enters the military and fights for our country, has more guts and heart than I ever will and I will respect any and all who do. I'm glad the military in the U.S has finally come down from being a male only combat thing is amazing, and guarantee nobody ever thought it would happen.
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I actually enjoyed this video tremendously! Just because you are a woman doesn’t mean that you the experience you had was any different. It’s sad to see a veteran, woman or man, be treated like what they did, didn’t matter. My fiancé’s best friend served a couple duties in Afghanistan, and it changes your mental attitude. What those people see over there is way beyond what most of us could imagine. If someone needs help for PTSD, it should not matter their gender. It just shocks me that they say women aren’t in combat, when they are being attacked! It’s sad that some of these people make it an issue. What brave women these women were for standing up and making a change for the future veterans! They are making a difference now, and it will change things in the future for women veterans! These women are far braver than I will ever be! Bullardml13-246
ReplyDeleteThis video explains how women veterans suffer PTSD. I think everyone suffers from it after being in combat. I do however think that women are thrown back into their role in society far more quickley than their male counterparts. Women are the general do all in the home and most now work which adds more stress especially after returning from combat. While most men have a spouse, partner or parent who has been taking care of all these thing while they were gone and continue to do so. I feel that the military needs to do more for our veterans, male or female. Not enough is done and thousand of people are suffering and not getting the help they need. You can not bring back a solider back from combat and expect them to join into citizenship as if nothing happened. There needs a time to cope, treat and heal for every solider. GMS246
ReplyDeleteThese two women in this video are just a pinch of how many other women in the US are suffering from PTSD. I could never imagine what any one of these soldiers are going through, they are definitely heros in any way shape or form. I found it interesting that some women back in the day would disguise themselves as men to go out and fight, back then women were always the ones to stay back and take care so for those women to go out and want to fight shows a lot. Those are the women that had some guts to go out and defend their country. I am glad that there are women stepping up and forming supportive groups for veterans so that there can be someone to turn to and is easy to find rather than trying to suffer through PTSD.
ReplyDeleteOne number that really hit me hard was that there are 6,500 FEMALE veterans that are homeless. How are we not helping and supporting or funding them when they come out of the service? What they do and go through for us there should never be any left without homes. feb246
So many people in the military suffer with PTSD and most of them don't even realize they have it, in a way I can understand why there would be a stigma with PTSD in women who have been in the military, this is where gender roles come in, when you think about a women in the military you don't think about them having the same role as a man so its almost as if you feel that they cant possibly experience the same things as a man would in the military but unfortunately thats not the case at all. A lot of these women go through the same things as a man, they turn to drug use, and shut down instead of being treated like they should because they don't realize that what they have is PTSD, I think its awesome that they have programs out there to help suffers of this disorder, its definitely not something thats easy to live with or cope with, I have seen so many homeless people on the streets because PTSD has dragged them down and completely tore their lives apart.
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Watching this video has realy opened my eyes on women in the military. I think that these two women are very brave individuals and I couldnt imagine going through what each of them did. It's very rare that you hear about women with PTSD. To know that 6500 women veteran were homeless was a great shock to me. To be honest before this video I never really thought abiout the fact that these women had to be just as tough as men. The young lady who downplayed her own injuries from the bombing is very couragous battling her own agonizing pain while providing help for the more seriously injured. Before watching this video I thought that women in the military had a much easier job than men. They sustain the same depression, and loss as that of a man. I always thought that the soldiers would be glad to go home but to hear both women say they hated to go home and that they felt a sense of guilt for not completing their job changed that thought. To hear the young lady say that cocaine was her only way to cope with society after the military broke my heart because here she was an average american who only wanted to serve her country. It is good to know that more help is available for women with PTSD but it is sad to hear of all those others who could not get help because it was not available. When I think of homeless vets women never came to mind. I'm so glad that more awarness is being brought t this serious issue.
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