Diversion Programs in New York

Diversion Programs in New York: Your Thoughts....

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  1. I really like the Diversion Programs because it is giving people another chance. They will not go to prison and they are not going to have to pay outrages fines. They get a chance to fix their problem and to rebuild their life without consequences. If they do get caught again there is no second thought and they will go straight to prison. It is also so very helpful because it saves a lot of money by not sending them to prison. The more people sent to prison the more money tax payers have to give. Also a bad thing that has been happening is where an adult gets caught with drugs because they made a mistake. Well by sending them to prison it is also affecting his or her child's life because they will not have that parent there anymore. So the Diversion Program is great because it gives people a second chance to fix themselves, it saves money for our tax payers, and it will help the children of the adults.

    Wrestler345

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    1. I completely agree with you. Especially for first time offenders. Some people just get off the right track and it may take some rehab just to get back on track. I think diversion is a great way to get people on the right track without ruining their life. The corrections system is there to correct our wrongs, not ruin our lives. So, I think this is a great 2nd chance opportunity for people that make mistakes, as humans do.
      SH678

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    2. I agree with you about second chances. The diversion programs do give second chances. Some capitalize on that she and chance and create a miracle in their lives. Second chances are good. Especially for the ones that have done wrong in their lives. Especially the ones addicted to drugs. Modified678

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  2. I think the diversion program is a better option especially in personal drug use. The person that is addicted to drugs isnt trying to hurt other people. They are trying to get their next fix. I think that diverting them to rehab and to a better life is better than going to prison. They need help. I think that it is more of a sickness than it is a crime. I mean, most of the people out their that are doing drugs, arent trying to hurt anyone or lower anothers life. They are just trying to feel good. It can take over a person's life. I think that these people would benefit more from rehabilitation or some sort of drug help, especially first time offenders that get caught with a little bit of personal marijuana or cocaine.
    SH678

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    1. I agree with you i believe drug offenders deserve rehab over jail time, especially if its there first time offence. And the fact that drug users are just trying to get high I also agree with, they just wanna feel good but drugs and violence do go hand in hand but for the most part users just wanna get high. wreked678

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    2. I agree completely with you when you say that these drug users aren't trying to hurt other people. There are way more dangerous people out their then these drug users, we should be locking them up instead. I also agree with it is more of a sickness and all these people need is a little help and that is what they are getting with this program. AD678

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    3. I 100% agree with you. Diverting drug users to rehab is way better ten sending them to prison. Drug users are not trying to hurt anyone they just want their next fix. Putting a man that could be a good man with a problem to prison for drugs will ruin their life. Diversion program will make them better.

      Wrestler678

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  3. The diversion program to me is a great idea. Giving a individual a chance for rehab instead of incarcerating them, especially for drug offenses I dont think we should waste our time and money incarcerating drug offenders. When there is a high possibility your going to have a better chance fixing the individual instead of making him worse. I think really any offence though that's not a violet crime could be fixed without sentencing someone so many years witch in turn will just make them worse or piss them off ether or it just dosent seem like the right way to go about helping people. So I definitely agree rehab would be a better option. wreked678

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    1. I agree with you people need eduction and rehab instead of getting locked up. Minor offenders don't need to be locked up with violent criminals. All they will do is learn from each other and make them worst once they are released.
      Tex678

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    2. I also agree that education and rehab is better instead of being locked up especially if they are minor offenders. I could understand holding back on some education if it was a very violent offender just because of safety. Jays678

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    3. Fixing the problem within the individual is the main focus our justice system should be concerned with when dealing with drug offenders. I agree with you on that one. Locking a junkie up is not going to do anything but make that offender worse. They are going to go through withdraws and you cant attend to that in a prison. Rehab on the other hand can help that individual through their issues and help the situation. Rehabilitation should be a big part of our justice system and maybe with time it will be. We can only hope! Bama678

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  4. I personally think the diversion program is a great idea. This program will help cut down on the prison population that is a problem right now. I think people that get convicted for personal drug use, this program really speaks to them, it allows them another chance and doesn't ruin ones life because of a simple mistake. Instead of having all these one time drug offenders locked up this program can allow less money to be spent on locking those people up and more on other aspects around our country, also it allows these people to clean their act up first too. I just don't see the need in locking a personal drug user up for 10 years or so, it doesn't take someone that long to get clean or stop using. So with that being said, I am definitely all for the diversion program. AD678

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    1. I really like that you have a strong opinion about the diversion program. I completely agree with you and all of your reasons are relevant. This program will help lower price cut by not sending an offender to prison for 10 years just because they got caught for illegal drug use once. I think the program will help clean someone up quicker than going to jail for years. I think you made some great points about helping other aspects around the country, offenders getting cleaned up, and not having the offenders get their life ruined for one mistake that was made in their life.
      JoJo678

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  5. Giving a minor offender a second chance is a good idea in my opinion. Sending anyone to prison will change him or her, most I think for the worst. Giving someone rehab and educating him or her would have a greater affect than having them sit in a prison cell. With the education you would also be preventing some of them from being repeat offenders and out of the prisons. Along with having these minor offenders getting education and rehab, which will make them better citizens in the community, it is saving money. What isn’t there not to like about this idea. I think most states need to adopt these ways.
    Tex678

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    1. I agree with you in the fact that what isn't there to like about the this idea. If it is saving us money that should be one of the first things we look at because money is always a big factor and it is helping the people so it is a win, win situation. Jays678

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    2. Couldn't agree more. Like I said, it is petty crimes a lot of people go to prison for. I think they also get worse because a lot of people become a product to their own environment. Being around people who murder and rape will make anyone a little worse. Cowboy678

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  6. I like the fact that there is a program and they are trying to make things better. Giving a minor offender a second chance in my opinion is the right thing to do. As many people know sometimes things just happen and you cant control it. As we talked about in class you shouldn't lock someone up for 10 years for having a little weed or drug of some sort especially if they are a first time offender. If we put offenders through this program then it can save us some money in the end. It can help prevent first time offenders from ever coming back. Also if you give them a program or even just as little time it is not going to take them to long to clean up sober up or get them to stop using drugs. Jays678

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    1. I completely agree with you. Like you said some people are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. There’s no reason to spend all that money to imprison a first time offender or someone that is not doing any harm to society, knowing that a little treatment can take that person a long way and better their lives. -GFM678

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  7. That is amazing how diverting a drug offender to treatment rather than incarcerating them saves them so much more money. Not only does it reduce the price of incarceration but it also drops the recidivism rate. People who go to a treatment program are less likely to re-offend. Those two things, price reduction and less recidivism should be enough to convince any judge to use diversion programs. Sadly not all judges see the light in this situation. I believe that in due time when more programs like this are used and more judges take it upon themselves to act on these types of programs that it will make a lasting impact on our criminal justice system. It shows that a lot of American's are aware of the changes in morals when it comes to our drug laws. Bama678

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    1. I do kind of like the spin you took on this, taking into account the economics and social perspective behind the laws on drugs. It really has to be looked at from every angle to truly see exactly what this does for us. While I can't speak with too much authority, the economic standpoint might be the most prominent of this idea.
      Buc678

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  8. Diversion is an opportunity to give small time offenders assistance before they get too far into their criminal path and decided to expand their criminal activity. By giving them treatment ahead of time, it can prevent future arrests which can help with the over populations of our prisons. I like the fact that you can save $5,000 per offender by giving them the treatment, rather than incarcerating them over something that’s really nothing. Why not take advantage of the opportunity to be able to save someone’s future and save money while doing so? I look at diversion as the perfect solution to a lot of our problems, but only if its conditional diversion. The reason being is, unconditional diversion would do nothing for the offender because it wouldn’t be mandatory and not many people are going to do something when they could be spending their time doing what they want if it’s not required. -GFM678

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    1. I agree with your post.The amount of money saved by using diversion as opposed to incarceration seems so small at $5,000.... until you multiply that by *x number of offenders*, Then it's eye opening.

      -JrMac678

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  9. I felt this article gave great reasons on how this program is starting to become effective in the U.S. I think it is a great idea for offenders with drug use to receive treatment instead of prison because it can lower the number for people who are incarcerated. The offenders should still receive punishment though but I feel that prison will not be a solution for the addicts to recover. I agree that the treatment does take a big play in the local culture and practice. I think that certain areas the treatment could be more effective than different areas. Local culture does put a huge part for the treatments to be an effective fix than sending offenders to prison as a resolution. I think it is awesome that the number of treatment enrollment is increasing because it really shows the positive results of this issue in the U.S.
    JoJo678

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    1. I do agree that it would depend on the culture in the area to how the programs work for those that are offenders. it does help keep those kids that make stupid mistakes to not have something on there record and to not ruin there life as it is just beginning. Gt_racer678

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  10. I think that Diversion Programs are a good idea for states. Specially because a lot of people that get in to trouble for drug or alcohol it is minor and by sending them through programs like these it will save cost in and help with over crowding in the jails and prisons. But I do see a problem with the program is like in the article it talked about how drug crime had increased. These maybe because of the people think that all i will have to do is go to a class and i will be fine which would lead to an increase because of the punishment not being so severer. So people might walk all around the law thinking that if they get caught its just a slap on the wrist. So the diversion programs are a good idea just need to keep a hold on how many people become repeat offenders. Gt_racer678

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    1. I think that it would be a good idea to have steps of the program. First time, a class with shorter sentencing. Second time, longer class. Third time, out patient rehab. Fourth time, inpatient rehab. Fifth Time it would be charged as a crime. These would have to be paid for by the person. With laws requiring health insurance now, and all health insurance having to provide drug and alcohol counseling for free this would be an effective way of managing it.

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  11. Personally, I think Diversion Programs are a great asset to the criminal justice system, at least when the programs are used for first time offenders. Like the article states, Diversion Programs can help save money that would have been spent on incarcerating a good person, who made a bad choice.
    I like the idea of using the Diversion Programs toward people charged with personal drug use. It seems like so many of us fall into these moments in life where we want to explore things. For some, that might be drugs. Most people might try a drug, and never do it again. However, if they are caught “experimenting” with a drug, they face the same consequences as a habitual user. They wouldn’t even need the Diversion Program. But if that’s the worst they get, I couldn't imagine the first time offender complaining too much. I'm all for the Diversion Program.

    -JrMac678

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  12. This just seems like common sense when it comes to drug control. I understand that most first offenders either do it as peer pressure or just out of curiosity. I also know this is not always the case, but the system would be flawed if it treated every drug user like a criminal. Without some area for leniency we would either have a world where everyone is scared to do anything or where everyone would rebel against rules that would be considered oppressive. It really does come down to a political or a social standing sort of argument, sadly. While it could be studied that a lower incarceration rate would lead to less crime, it would also have to be looked at that if you let more people off, the crime would be lower just by that. Really, all I mean to say is this is a good thing for a bunch of reasons that could be taken as bad.
    Buc678

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  13. I think that the diversion programs will only work if they use it in a way that forces the offender to actually attend the program. If we imprison them, yet refuse to spend money on rehabilitating them, there is no point in imprisoning them. If we keep them out of jails and prisons but make them spend their own money on rehabilitation mandated by the courts, we save money by not having to house them, and we don't have to spend money on that particular program.
    One problem I see with this is if the offender keeps having small time possession amounts, they are attending the program multiple times, going through the motions with no change. What would be the next move? How can we measure the effectiveness of court ordered rehabilitation?
    Medic678

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  14. I like the fact that it's programs out there to help. I think it would work if they use it the way it's designed for. But I also think that people will keep doing petty things if they know it's a program for them. How effective is the program if you have people doing the same crime but getting out going to the program???? I do like the idea of the program to help out. I think it's a great thing to have for the criminal justice system. I like that program lashay678

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  15. I really like the idea of the diversion program. I think it is a good way to give people a warning that they can in fact be caught yet it still gives them a second chance. I believe it makes criminals more respectful of the system as well so they don't feel it is out to get them. It's obvious that we all make mistakes and I am sure even people more fortunate with their success have done the same things and just haven't been caught. This makes it so the prisons don't get overpopulated too. Also, in my opinion I don't see why people with petty crimes are put in the same place as people who murder and rape. Cowboy678

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