I believe crime scene processing can be difficult if not done properly. It involves lots of common sense and attention to detail with each step taken at the scene. For instance you don't want to spit at a crime scene because you don't want to contaminate the crime scene or leave your DNA somewhere that could later be crucial to your case.Isolating and securing the crime scene are very crucial steps in investigating a crime scene. I also believe that modern technology have also streamlined investigations, think about it. 20-30 years ago, you had to wait for film to be developed, a CSI team from forever away, DNA samples to be evaluated by a lab outside of your jurisdiction and still worry if it was enough to proceed with your case. The video does an excellent job at providing a very detailed yet simple overview of crime scene investigations, providing the jobs that should be carried out by everyone involved at a scene. The question posed at the ending of the video is a BIG key to each investigation. Failure to document the chain of custody for evidence is something you don't want to fall victim too, this can cost you your case, reputation and your department lots of resources. SamDavid012
Processing a crime scene not correctly can be a big problem. Now many departments send their CSI experts to seminars and required them to take some extra training and study old cases on training to get more experience about crime scene and how to process them correctly. Because all the departments cares about their reputation and they want their people to best in what they do so when they show up in court they want to be on top of the their game and looks good in front of judge and in court by providing the perfect documents of their chain of custody. Most Wanted012
I think that the video goes over our chapter but with less technical information and it simplifies the information. I think that processing a crime scene has more to do with experience than with training. Training is important but the more times you process a crime scene the more you know how to do. The important thing is to learn from your mistakes. Canine012
I agree I can see how it can be difficult especially if you are just starting out and haven't learned all the ropes. You really need to not only be confident but you need to know what you are looking for and not be second guessing yourself. When you have an individual's life on the line of whether or not he or she goes to jail or gets to walk because of the evidence you recovered, you need to make sure you are doing the best you can and not mess up or forgot anything. Watching this video surely made me realize how much you really do during a crime scene. general-012
Processing a crime scene can only be complicated if you do not have the skills to do so. All you need is the basic common knowledge, intellect and proper training to be set. You can also be messed up if you have no awareness of your environment or sense of paying attention to detail. If vital evidence is looked over that is crucial to the case it could possibly make it void. For a brief example you go up to a crime scene don’t bother to secure the area, start touching everything you see getting your DNA all over it. You are being careless contaminating all of the potential evidence and with the evidence you do collect you do not label properly so no one knows what case it belonged to. Basically everything you do will be out of order and filled with chaos and your reputability will be soiled. Years ago I would have said yes, processing a crime scene is hard there was no advanced technology or training like we have today. Which makes evaluating evidence so much easier to make connections to the suspect and victim of the crime. Today there is no excuse, we have everything we need to process any crime scene. Erza-012
I don't agree. While yes, we've come a long way in learning more about the proper way to process a crime scene, no one is perfect. Mistakes will still be made, accidents will still happen. Let's say the bookcase scenario is real, and you're still a rookie, can you imagine what a body crushed underneath a 1000 pound bookshelf would look like? Class rooms can only prepare you so much for what to expect. Until you are actually there, and put in that situation, you have no idea how your body is going to respond. I think it takes a very special person to be able to truly stay calm, focused, and able to process a crime scene without ever making a mistake. Gogetit012
Processing a crime scene is all about observation and skills to process crime scene. It can be complicated but you can’t learn everything about crime scene in a class it required field work where most of the new people make mistake no one is born perfect. We all learn things by making mistake. There are lots of ways to contaminate the crime scene. When processing crime scene you get cut and drops a bloods contaminating the scene many of them don’t report because they think that they will be embarrassed and that can led to major problem. Sweating is another problem if you sweat a lot than it’s not a good idea to process a crime scene without proper outfit. It is very important that you take your time processing crime scene and collect all the evidence and mark them properly without damaging. Processing is all about time, common sense and skills. The more time you take to process better the chances to find useful to the case. Most Wanted012
I agree with your first couple of sentences. I believe that when working in this type of field, you need to be able to observe things. I think observing is one of the most important things and can make a person excel at their job. with saying that it means everyone is human. Nobody is perfect and can and will make mistakes. The only way to learn is by making mistakes and with practice. Hunter-012
Observing a crime scene I believe is most important. If you do not observe the correct way there is a lot of evidence that can be lost or contaminated and no one would ever know. Evidence can help solve cases. It is always good to have all of the CORRECT evidence that you need. LAWS012
I never thought it was too complex of a procedure to properly process a crime scene. Who knew walking in to a room, there would be so much to analyze from beginning to the time you leave the room. The position of the body, the way it lays, what could have happened, how did it happen, and why did this happen. Was this just an accident, or was there foul play involved. Not only does a person have to examine the body, but they also have to draw a picture as to how everything is laid out in the room. Following the proper chain of command is also crucial in helping to solve cases. I learned just how important that was while watching Cold Justice. A murder case in 1993 was revisited, and the physical evidence was retested because obviously DNA testing is much more sophisticated now than 20+ years ago. As it turned out, none of the evidence was able to be used as it had been contaminated by too many individuals. Whoever murdered this woman and her 6 year old child will never be brought to justice because the chain of command wasn't as thorough or strict as it is today. It is important while at a possible crime scene, that all precautions be taken to not contaminate the scene. gogetit012
I thought the same thing too! I think too much Law and Order got to me. Although from watching it, I do have a better understanding as to what should happen, but from the class I've also learned that there is much more to the processing of a scene and this is only the tip of the ice burg. You still have to get the suspect and prosecute them and then sentencing, but there is no doubt the the biggest player in a case is the scene of the crime. army27D-012
Just like army27D-012, I thought the same thing! I watch way to many shows like Law and Order, Criminal Minds, NCIS, and CSI. Even though the shows are not real, they have given me a better understanding of what it takes to get a crime scene processed "correctly" and how much time it really does take to get a lead on a case, or even catch the person who did the crime. FBI-012
Crime scene processing is something should be taken very seriously. If there is just one wrong thing to happen, it could have major consequences. For example, contamination in the crime scene can be brought in or out from someone who is there including like footprints or extra fingerprints. When processing a crime scene today, people are prepared with gloves and the proper equipment that is needed for less contamination and better results. The process of the crime scene values detail, organization, and the collection of evidence. The training and technology today allows for better examination and more sophistication of how things have improved over the years. When the case begins to appear in court you want to make sure that the evidence is collected and documented properly and there isn't any issues presenting it in court. I do think mistakes are and can be made but hopefully it doesn't become a reoccurring problem and people can learn to be better at what they do. CSI012
This video covered a lot of information that we already learned in class but the information was more particle than scientific. The video talked more about what the investigator and the first officer on the scene should do not just the science aspect but the critical thinking part. The video used the word reconstruction which means to view the evidence and try to figure out what happened. The video also talked about what the role of the medical examiner and corner which is to identify the body, the cause of death, and to determine if it is a suicide homicide or accidental death or something else. The video mention the importance of the chain of custody which if broken can ruin a case. When the chain of custody is broken it can mean that the evidence was tampered with or contaminated which has to be disclosed to the defense attorney. The cop who was in possession of the evidence when it was tampered with may face disciplinary action and may never be trusted with evidence again. Canine012
The video was very informative, although I believe we learned a lot in class as well. Like said in previous posts, if something happens to the scene to contaminate it, then it can effect the way a crime scene is viewed in court. If ANYTHING happens, then to the jury it may seem like something was removed, altered, or placed there. The role of the first officer on scene is the most important in my opinion, because they have to make the path, cross off the scene, and ask witnesses/victims of what happened or what they saw. A crime scene is very fragile, because if you get one little piece of evidence wrong the it can blow a whole case. It is a tricky and hard job to be able to find out what happened, what caused it to happen, and any other details. It makes it worse if there is a murder victim. Then you have to find the person and prove beyond a reasonable doubt as to whether he knew what he was doing or not to get him for first degree murder or any other offense. army27D-012
I believe that if certain steps are not taken when there is a crime scene everything can be messed up and evidence may be contaminated or admissible. This video gives out quite a bit of information that can be useful when at a crime scene. It tells us what steps are taken first and how careful you need to be. They tell what each person is responsible for when it comes to arriving at the crime scene, and if things are not done properly either they can miss evidence or they can ruin evidence by not being careful. Also were were taught alot of this in class already but with the video it clears up certain things that we may not of understood. The chain of custody is something that i wasnt sure about but watching this helped me understand it a little more. I think the most important thing from this video was the steps and procedures and how to do them properly, because if they are not done properly then you will not have a very good crime scene. Hunter-012
A lot of people probably would feel that a processing a crime scene is easy. There are many different scenarios and evidence you need to look for. Is anyone out to get them, could have whatever fallen or malfunctioned to have caused the death. Crime Scene processing has many reasons as to why it needs to be done and done correctly. We need to understand the events that occurred gather evidence to be presented in court convict the person or persons responsible Ensuring you have all this will in the end if it is a homicide will help you prove the crime in court. Gathering evidence is also key. This will help you obtain knowledge of the indigent to declare whether it was a crime committed or not. There are many team members that are going to help process the crime scene. Police, EMT, Investigator, Lab experts, and even Photographers. There are many procedures that are done at the crime scene too. Isolate so it don’t get contaminated document search collect and package submit to crime lab. A lot of notes are done by the first responder to the crime scene, gives location, address, thoughts what happened, and any other relevant information to help give an idea to what all happened. Sketches are done which will include date, time, scales, reference points, measurements, name of investigators, victims, and suspects. We also will video tape to ensure its on photo and a live video on the scene. Each piece of evidence is put in it’s own package to help eliminate contamination and damaged evidence. Once you would learn your job I would see how this would become normal and easy. This would be the line of work where you wouldn’t want to continue to make mistakes especially when it has a person on the line of whether they will be found guilty or not guilty. general-012
This video did a great job at explaining what a Crime Scene processing team needs to do, and who is apart of the Crime Scene team. Crime Scene processing needs to be done right the first time, and it is difficult to do. Absolutely no one can mess with the scene until the photographers have taken all the pictures that they need of the scene. Only Authorized personnel should be on the scene. There should not be any "outsiders" on the scene. Once the first-responder gets on the scene of the crime, everyone should listen to that person until someone of higher authority gets there. Every person should be walking the way the first person walks, and they should not be messing with anything until they are told to do so. If someone messes with something, the evidence will most likely be contaminated, and they may not be able to get a fingerprint, or footprint, if they are there. Crime scene investigators should have a scene that is uncontaminated. FBI-012
What you say is very true cause if there are more than one person there and they all go all over the crime scene that might mess up the outcome of what they find. There will be more footprints than needed there then there was before or even more finger prints. They might like you said contaminate that crime scene and we do not need that. 88Mike012
This crime could of been either a accident or a homicide. but since in this video they used this long process to figure out that there were stuff missing at the scene of the crime that meant that this must not of been a homicide. the process they go through to figure out what happened or who did or if it was one thing or something else can be very long but in the end of it all we or the people who are doing the investigation will be able to know and find the item or items that are missing. But this video helps people who want to get into this type of workforce like forensic science will be able to get a better idea of what they are looking forward to in that job that they choose for example me. Since I was watching this video i am able to get a better idea of what to look forward to in the type of job that i working for to get in the future. Hearing the different ways that evidence is packaged and how its divided up so that they can get a clear idea of what to look for and to be able to get the prints that they need or any other type of evidence they can get and so that nothing gets mixed together which might be alot to do in the end it makes it easier for them. But some ways that evidence gets messed is by to many people messing with the evidence which messes up the outcome of what happened or what they find. but in the end this is an excellent video and very explanatory to me. 88Mike012
Processing a Crime Scene is very important to solving a case if there is one. Evidence is the most important, if you don't have evidence from the scene then it will be harder later on to see if the death was accidental, natural, or a homicide. Processing is technically the observing method. Observing the scene to get the correct evidence from the location. Someone that is observing needs to be spot on and able to tell the difference from good evidence from wrong evidence. Never did I think Processing a crime scene would be easy it does take good skills to do so. The processor is the one that really gives the police or whom ever working on the case all of the information that they need. The first officer on the scene is important he/she has to make sure no one contaminates the scene which in a public place would be kind of tricky but they have to make sure it is done. They also have to track down any witnesses that were there in a public place once again that can be hard. There are many many important steps to processing a crime scene. LAWS012
I believe crime scene processing can be difficult if not done properly. It involves lots of common sense and attention to detail with each step taken at the scene. For instance you don't want to spit at a crime scene because you don't want to contaminate the crime scene or leave your DNA somewhere that could later be crucial to your case.Isolating and securing the crime scene are very crucial steps in investigating a crime scene. I also believe that modern technology have also streamlined investigations, think about it. 20-30 years ago, you had to wait for film to be developed, a CSI team from forever away, DNA samples to be evaluated by a lab outside of your jurisdiction and still worry if it was enough to proceed with your case. The video does an excellent job at providing a very detailed yet simple overview of crime scene investigations, providing the jobs that should be carried out by everyone involved at a scene. The question posed at the ending of the video is a BIG key to each investigation. Failure to document the chain of custody for evidence is something you don't want to fall victim too, this can cost you your case, reputation and your department lots of resources. SamDavid012
ReplyDeleteProcessing a crime scene not correctly can be a big problem. Now many departments send their CSI experts to seminars and required them to take some extra training and study old cases on training to get more experience about crime scene and how to process them correctly. Because all the departments cares about their reputation and they want their people to best in what they do so when they show up in court they want to be on top of the their game and looks good in front of judge and in court by providing the perfect documents of their chain of custody. Most Wanted012
DeleteI think that the video goes over our chapter but with less technical information and it simplifies the information. I think that processing a crime scene has more to do with experience than with training. Training is important but the more times you process a crime scene the more you know how to do. The important thing is to learn from your mistakes.
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I agree I can see how it can be difficult especially if you are just starting out and haven't learned all the ropes. You really need to not only be confident but you need to know what you are looking for and not be second guessing yourself. When you have an individual's life on the line of whether or not he or she goes to jail or gets to walk because of the evidence you recovered, you need to make sure you are doing the best you can and not mess up or forgot anything. Watching this video surely made me realize how much you really do during a crime scene. general-012
DeleteProcessing a crime scene can only be complicated if you do not have the skills to do so. All you need is the basic common knowledge, intellect and proper training to be set. You can also be messed up if you have no awareness of your environment or sense of paying attention to detail. If vital evidence is looked over that is crucial to the case it could possibly make it void. For a brief example you go up to a crime scene don’t bother to secure the area, start touching everything you see getting your DNA all over it. You are being careless contaminating all of the potential evidence and with the evidence you do collect you do not label properly so no one knows what case it belonged to. Basically everything you do will be out of order and filled with chaos and your reputability will be soiled. Years ago I would have said yes, processing a crime scene is hard there was no advanced technology or training like we have today. Which makes evaluating evidence so much easier to make connections to the suspect and victim of the crime. Today there is no excuse, we have everything we need to process any crime scene. Erza-012
ReplyDeleteI don't agree. While yes, we've come a long way in learning more about the proper way to process a crime scene, no one is perfect. Mistakes will still be made, accidents will still happen. Let's say the bookcase scenario is real, and you're still a rookie, can you imagine what a body crushed underneath a 1000 pound bookshelf would look like? Class rooms can only prepare you so much for what to expect. Until you are actually there, and put in that situation, you have no idea how your body is going to respond. I think it takes a very special person to be able to truly stay calm, focused, and able to process a crime scene without ever making a mistake. Gogetit012
DeleteProcessing a crime scene is all about observation and skills to process crime scene. It can be complicated but you can’t learn everything about crime scene in a class it required field work where most of the new people make mistake no one is born perfect. We all learn things by making mistake. There are lots of ways to contaminate the crime scene. When processing crime scene you get cut and drops a bloods contaminating the scene many of them don’t report because they think that they will be embarrassed and that can led to major problem. Sweating is another problem if you sweat a lot than it’s not a good idea to process a crime scene without proper outfit. It is very important that you take your time processing crime scene and collect all the evidence and mark them properly without damaging. Processing is all about time, common sense and skills. The more time you take to process better the chances to find useful to the case. Most Wanted012
ReplyDeleteI agree with your first couple of sentences. I believe that when working in this type of field, you need to be able to observe things. I think observing is one of the most important things and can make a person excel at their job. with saying that it means everyone is human. Nobody is perfect and can and will make mistakes. The only way to learn is by making mistakes and with practice. Hunter-012
DeleteObserving a crime scene I believe is most important. If you do not observe the correct way there is a lot of evidence that can be lost or contaminated and no one would ever know. Evidence can help solve cases. It is always good to have all of the CORRECT evidence that you need. LAWS012
DeleteI never thought it was too complex of a procedure to properly process a crime scene. Who knew walking in to a room, there would be so much to analyze from beginning to the time you leave the room. The position of the body, the way it lays, what could have happened, how did it happen, and why did this happen. Was this just an accident, or was there foul play involved. Not only does a person have to examine the body, but they also have to draw a picture as to how everything is laid out in the room. Following the proper chain of command is also crucial in helping to solve cases. I learned just how important that was while watching Cold Justice. A murder case in 1993 was revisited, and the physical evidence was retested because obviously DNA testing is much more sophisticated now than 20+ years ago. As it turned out, none of the evidence was able to be used as it had been contaminated by too many individuals. Whoever murdered this woman and her 6 year old child will never be brought to justice because the chain of command wasn't as thorough or strict as it is today. It is important while at a possible crime scene, that all precautions be taken to not contaminate the scene.
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I thought the same thing too! I think too much Law and Order got to me. Although from watching it, I do have a better understanding as to what should happen, but from the class I've also learned that there is much more to the processing of a scene and this is only the tip of the ice burg. You still have to get the suspect and prosecute them and then sentencing, but there is no doubt the the biggest player in a case is the scene of the crime. army27D-012
DeleteJust like army27D-012, I thought the same thing! I watch way to many shows like Law and Order, Criminal Minds, NCIS, and CSI. Even though the shows are not real, they have given me a better understanding of what it takes to get a crime scene processed "correctly" and how much time it really does take to get a lead on a case, or even catch the person who did the crime. FBI-012
DeleteCrime scene processing is something should be taken very seriously. If there is just one wrong thing to happen, it could have major consequences. For example, contamination in the crime scene can be brought in or out from someone who is there including like footprints or extra fingerprints. When processing a crime scene today, people are prepared with gloves and the proper equipment that is needed for less contamination and better results. The process of the crime scene values detail, organization, and the collection of evidence. The training and technology today allows for better examination and more sophistication of how things have improved over the years. When the case begins to appear in court you want to make sure that the evidence is collected and documented properly and there isn't any issues presenting it in court. I do think mistakes are and can be made but hopefully it doesn't become a reoccurring problem and people can learn to be better at what they do. CSI012
ReplyDeleteThis video covered a lot of information that we already learned in class but the information was more particle than scientific. The video talked more about what the investigator and the first officer on the scene should do not just the science aspect but the critical thinking part. The video used the word reconstruction which means to view the evidence and try to figure out what happened. The video also talked about what the role of the medical examiner and corner which is to identify the body, the cause of death, and to determine if it is a suicide homicide or accidental death or something else. The video mention the importance of the chain of custody which if broken can ruin a case. When the chain of custody is broken it can mean that the evidence was tampered with or contaminated which has to be disclosed to the defense attorney. The cop who was in possession of the evidence when it was tampered with may face disciplinary action and may never be trusted with evidence again.
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The video was very informative, although I believe we learned a lot in class as well. Like said in previous posts, if something happens to the scene to contaminate it, then it can effect the way a crime scene is viewed in court. If ANYTHING happens, then to the jury it may seem like something was removed, altered, or placed there. The role of the first officer on scene is the most important in my opinion, because they have to make the path, cross off the scene, and ask witnesses/victims of what happened or what they saw. A crime scene is very fragile, because if you get one little piece of evidence wrong the it can blow a whole case. It is a tricky and hard job to be able to find out what happened, what caused it to happen, and any other details. It makes it worse if there is a murder victim. Then you have to find the person and prove beyond a reasonable doubt as to whether he knew what he was doing or not to get him for first degree murder or any other offense. army27D-012
ReplyDeleteI believe that if certain steps are not taken when there is a crime scene everything can be messed up and evidence may be contaminated or admissible. This video gives out quite a bit of information that can be useful when at a crime scene. It tells us what steps are taken first and how careful you need to be. They tell what each person is responsible for when it comes to arriving at the crime scene, and if things are not done properly either they can miss evidence or they can ruin evidence by not being careful. Also were were taught alot of this in class already but with the video it clears up certain things that we may not of understood. The chain of custody is something that i wasnt sure about but watching this helped me understand it a little more. I think the most important thing from this video was the steps and procedures and how to do them properly, because if they are not done properly then you will not have a very good crime scene. Hunter-012
ReplyDeleteA lot of people probably would feel that a processing a crime scene is easy. There are many different scenarios and evidence you need to look for. Is anyone out to get them, could have whatever fallen or malfunctioned to have caused the death. Crime Scene processing has many reasons as to why it needs to be done and done correctly.
ReplyDeleteWe need to understand the events that occurred
gather evidence to be presented in court
convict the person or persons responsible
Ensuring you have all this will in the end if it is a homicide will help you prove the crime in court. Gathering evidence is also key. This will help you obtain knowledge of the indigent to declare whether it was a crime committed or not.
There are many team members that are going to help process the crime scene.
Police, EMT, Investigator, Lab experts, and even Photographers.
There are many procedures that are done at the crime scene too.
Isolate so it don’t get contaminated
document
search
collect and package
submit to crime lab.
A lot of notes are done by the first responder to the crime scene, gives location, address, thoughts what happened, and any other relevant information to help give an idea to what all happened. Sketches are done which will include date, time, scales, reference points, measurements, name of investigators, victims, and suspects.
We also will video tape to ensure its on photo and a live video on the scene.
Each piece of evidence is put in it’s own package to help eliminate contamination and damaged evidence.
Once you would learn your job I would see how this would become normal and easy. This would be the line of work where you wouldn’t want to continue to make mistakes especially when it has a person on the line of whether they will be found guilty or not guilty. general-012
This video did a great job at explaining what a Crime Scene processing team needs to do, and who is apart of the Crime Scene team. Crime Scene processing needs to be done right the first time, and it is difficult to do. Absolutely no one can mess with the scene until the photographers have taken all the pictures that they need of the scene. Only Authorized personnel should be on the scene. There should not be any "outsiders" on the scene. Once the first-responder gets on the scene of the crime, everyone should listen to that person until someone of higher authority gets there. Every person should be walking the way the first person walks, and they should not be messing with anything until they are told to do so. If someone messes with something, the evidence will most likely be contaminated, and they may not be able to get a fingerprint, or footprint, if they are there. Crime scene investigators should have a scene that is uncontaminated. FBI-012
ReplyDeleteWhat you say is very true cause if there are more than one person there and they all go all over the crime scene that might mess up the outcome of what they find. There will be more footprints than needed there then there was before or even more finger prints. They might like you said contaminate that crime scene and we do not need that. 88Mike012
DeleteThis crime could of been either a accident or a homicide. but since in this video they used this long process to figure out that there were stuff missing at the scene of the crime that meant that this must not of been a homicide. the process they go through to figure out what happened or who did or if it was one thing or something else can be very long but in the end of it all we or the people who are doing the investigation will be able to know and find the item or items that are missing. But this video helps people who want to get into this type of workforce like forensic science will be able to get a better idea of what they are looking forward to in that job that they choose for example me. Since I was watching this video i am able to get a better idea of what to look forward to in the type of job that i working for to get in the future. Hearing the different ways that evidence is packaged and how its divided up so that they can get a clear idea of what to look for and to be able to get the prints that they need or any other type of evidence they can get and so that nothing gets mixed together which might be alot to do in the end it makes it easier for them. But some ways that evidence gets messed is by to many people messing with the evidence which messes up the outcome of what happened or what they find. but in the end this is an excellent video and very explanatory to me. 88Mike012
ReplyDeleteProcessing a Crime Scene is very important to solving a case if there is one. Evidence is the most important, if you don't have evidence from the scene then it will be harder later on to see if the death was accidental, natural, or a homicide. Processing is technically the observing method. Observing the scene to get the correct evidence from the location. Someone that is observing needs to be spot on and able to tell the difference from good evidence from wrong evidence. Never did I think Processing a crime scene would be easy it does take good skills to do so. The processor is the one that really gives the police or whom ever working on the case all of the information that they need. The first officer on the scene is important he/she has to make sure no one contaminates the scene which in a public place would be kind of tricky but they have to make sure it is done. They also have to track down any witnesses that were there in a public place once again that can be hard. There are many many important steps to processing a crime scene. LAWS012
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