A culture war, as described by Mr. Hartman, is a struggle of an American identity. This video was very interesting. It's amazing to think that these culture wars have essentially been going on since day one of the founding of America. I thought it was interesting how he made the comment that Irvin Crystal, who is a Jew, said that American democracy could only survive if it is infused with religious values. Mr. Hartman never said himself if he agreed with it, but in my opinion I do agree with Irvin Crystal. Without any type of religion there would be no moral guidelines. People would do whatever they wanted to do. Also, I thought it was interesting how the host said that there would always be a culture war because no one can ever make every single person happy. There will always be people who do not like a law or rule. swimmer001
I think you identified something pretty important, swimmer, and that's the spirit of compromise. The Democratic and Republican parties have been around for a very long time and over the last century, the polarization of these two and the hostility between them has definitely increased. It seems like sometimes it gets to the point of our legislators opposing a bill simply because it belongs to the other party and not their own. I have heard various politicians talk about the importance of walking bi-partisan lines and working on legislation that both parties have to compromise on, but can also agree on. Unfortunately, I can't see I've really seen this happen to a very great extent on the house and senate floors. It seems like the pluralist model of government breaks down in our system of democracy because by the time what the people want actually gets to the attention of the legislators (if it gets there...) it becomes transformed into something consistent with the wants of their party instead of the people. thestig001
I agree with you swimmer001 because without these certain religions there wouldn't be any type of guidelines for each group to follow. Also, there are many people today that do not like the law/rules and there are more and more people this generation that that are going against the law making things harder. Hartman made many suggestions and beliefs on religion and not every one is going to agree because he was expressing his opinion towards things. The law and military will always be around and has been for hundreds of years since we have formed alliances and the law has made the wolrd better overal in my opinion. Yes theres restrictions but it's to keep us in line from doing the things we shouldn't. Summer001
I do agree with you. Our society definately advantages with religion tied into daily life. It's use as a moral code, to bridge gaps between humanity and law. Americans are definately united to religious beliefs, and it especially ties in with our political views; this trickles down to our economic situations. And my thought about your comment ,"That culture wars had sarted since day one in America," is one and the same. Except that I feel that the oppression that our Country founded itself on is the ultimate cause for all the racially motivated issues. The 1960's Civil Rights Act was mostly a freedom ring for all minority people in America. Rosebudd001
I think it's very interesting to hear this version of how the "culture wars" have played out what with the formation of the new left (a product of sexual revolution and civil rights movement) and neoconservatism (a group formed in reaction to new left). I think the interviewer did a good job of getting Dr. Hartman to apply the sociological perspective to explain how these groups were formed. It's also interesting how the cycle goes of the left pushing for new and expanded rights and legislation (other-directedness) while the right reacts to these pushes and tries to conserve the present and past traditions (tradition-directedness). One can definitely see how these two groups are really at the core of our political debate these days and part of why the government is so deadlocked. At the same time, I also found his explanation of libertarianism very interesting, with one side wanting more universal rights for all people and the other more economical rights. They both want good things, the question lies in the ordering of those goods and the willingness of both sides to compromise.
The interviewer also said that "rights have been expanded, but mutual obligations have lessened" and I just wanted to point out that this sounds exactly like Weber's theory of rationalization. Weber feared that progress and modernity could have a dehumanizing effect on society and this certainly seems to have happened, to a certain extent. thestig001
I also thought the description of libertarianism was interesting. I want to think that people are coming from a good place and that they want good as far as humanity goes. But with so many different views out there and more importantly so many different people only wanting to see their point of view and not even willing to listen others, it's going to be difficult to make certain positive changes. And there are some serious issues that people in the near future need to start making just to exist as they have been for years. Environmentally speaking that is. Compromise is an interesting word, hopefully more people in charge will look into it. In the meantime, us out here in the real world, with more information than ever, what can we do to change things or to be heard or to join a movement? How do we get the information to be informed as much as possible to vote in our local elections for example? I'm 36 years old and I understand the importance to know these types of things, but I honestly don't know where to start or how I can help. But want to. Good comments on the video! Wonder Woman001
Many different areas of subjects to attack within this video. What I took away from this video is Hartman's view on cultural war had several points. He said that neo-cons were in general thought to have believed in normative America. In the 1950s shows like "Leave it to Beaver" portrayed America in it's idealistic way that the man was the patriarch of the family and the breadwinner, the woman's place was in the home submissive to the husband, and their children. They believed that Christianity & American were one in the same. The cons were stuck in this idealistic nostalgia. And their way was the "right" way. Of course this was great unless you were different in anyway from the so-called norms; a woman, gay, or any other color than white. Over the years there were many "wins" for the liberals as far as gaining some equal rights. Looking to the future I believe with so many different cultures we will always be at "war" over one issue or another. Whether or not a better or worse change will come of them is to be seen. WonderWoman001
I agree with your last sentence. In my opinion I think ultimately the country will keep growing and evolving for the better. We as a nation have overcome a lot of adversity over the years, and we still are one of the best countries to live in. Yes we have some social and economical problems, but every nation has their own types of problems, it just depends on what it is. I believe that as long as we as a country keep doing what we're doing and make changes when necessary, we will be alright. glassonion001
The neocon idea of America is pretty neat looking until you remember that it was in black and white. There are so many different colors and flavors out there that the whole "Leave it to Beaver" world seems like toast with no jelly, butter or anything to give it taste. That world was too idealistic and unreal to survive for very long. Yay for all the wins in equal rights that have feed us from those chains! Arizona001
I agree with Mr. Hartman's statement about that there has and always will be a culture war in the U.S. I believe this because our nation is full of too many different types of heritages and ethnicity's for there not to be. I don't necessarily think that a culture war is bad either. These types of clashes between groups are necessary to keep nation at it's best. If there aren't any clashes then I think we aren't using our freedom of speech right to it's full potential. Without expressing or using that fundamental American right there won't be any changes in the nation because we aren't speaking our minds and acting upon it. glassonion001
I believe that the cultural war will not ever end as well. As long as the 1 percenters are running things we will always experience inequality at their mercy. Maybe if there were less clashes there could be more compromise and peace between the different cultures. TooTall001
I agree Glassonion001 The freedom of speech is and will always be used in a debate. I feel as if we didn’t have a freedom of speech many things in our nation wouldn’t be the way they are today. I wouldn’t say this nation is perfect, there are definitely flaws but without the freedom of speech we wouldn’t have gay marriage, black rights, working woman, and many more successful debates that are now open to the nation. LAWS001
I grew up in the "Leave it to Beaver" scenario. I do believe it is an ideal life to live. As far as if I work hard I earned and deserve what I have. And if you don't work hard you shouldn't get what you want given to you. I do however believe in equal rights. Maybe to a certain extent the Culture War is lessening because people are self-centered and don't care anymore to fight for what they believe in. I don't agree with getting your own elected to run your group's agenda, there should be some equal fairness between the different groups with both their beliefs. TooTall001
I would agree with you TooTall, I don't agree with with getting your own elected to run your groups own agenda. Pharmaceutical and technology companies are doing this everyday, paying politicians to get there agendas passed and their products on the market. grateful001
I completely agree with your post. If you do not work hard then you should not expect to get all the privileges you want for free. Unless of course you have any type of handicap whether born with, work related, or by any accident. I also agree when it comes to equal rights, this is America freedom is supposed to be at the head of our nation. Toby001
I found this video very intriguing because of all of the analogies used for example, a wave needs air and force. This video also opened my eyes to how many conflicts we have just within America alone with culture. I agree that there will always be a constant war on culture within our nation and it probably goes on within other countries too. The United States is basically a huge mixing pot of diverse cultures so, I think it is almost expected for there to be cultural conflict. I think if there was not any conflict we would be worried too. This video had some very good points on each topic talked about. Toby001
I agree with your comment. I think the United States is a huge mixing pot of diverse cultures so there would be a big chance for cultural conflict. I think a little conflict is good and not to be worried about. I think you are right that we would be worried if we did not have any cultural conflict. SVT001.
I say Mr. Hartmans right in that there will always be a culture war in the US. i also think fascism is a part of human nature, hate & homophobia are natural. Discrimination is inevitable, everyone and everything is discriminated against at some point. it's a waste of useful time to debate about it. People should accept their situation, to do the most with what they have and not to ask for the unnecessary. Having a right to get married won't make homophobes disappear, discrimination will still always be there. The only difference is that a person that used to be discriminated against is now married but still being discriminated against socially and in the work place. grateful001
I think this video was very interesting to listen too. The actual video part was really boring though. I agree that there is a culture war in the United States. I think that we will continue to have a culture war because of all of the many cultures we have in the United States. This "culture war" is a part of society. We have so many different backgrounds that are living within one nation. I think this is what makes the United States such an interesting place to live. We are a constantly changing country. If you think about it and listen to some of the points in the video you can see that there is a lot of diversity. SVT001.
I do think the video was a bit boring because of the speaker, but I still found it interesting. The culture war does make me think if certain things within our country. To be specific, I was raised in a small town where certain things were rarely seen growing up compared to what's happening now. In this southern town it was almost taboo to see interracial couples when I was kid. Now that I'm grown, everyone in my age group has increased that number. Something else seen throughout is the acceptance of both black and white cultures in the small southern town. In this small town alone, there seems to be constant adoption/ warring of cultures in a great way. Taylojj2
I found this video interesting because there will always be a culture war thoughout any generation. Even if we had less cultures there would still be a culture was going on in the world. A struggle of identity is defined as a culture war by Hartmans and I agree with him to extent. i believe it is more than this. But I don't agree with certain races will do better in life to achieve goals. Each person is different and can anything they would want to do. Our problem is that we classify people before knowing and understanding their situation. There will always be problems through the world and they will never be fixed and this is one because we stand up for what we believe in. These cultures set guidelines for many. Summer001
I agree with you, as it said in video that these cultural wars has been going on since day one. We see it even today, and it doesn't matter how much we progress as society with being considerate about other cultures, there is no where that these cultural wars will stop. And I personally don't think it should either, cause like you said each individuals now stand for what they believe in. Khush001
In my opinion, it is good to have these cultural wars within the country. United States is so diverse with its population from every race to different ethnicity, cultural wars are bound to happen. To my understanding these cultural wars might have negative effect looking at whole picture of just being american, but there are lot of positive effects. So many different people celebrate their festivals and what not in States here, there are Liberal, and conservative people. These people and cultural wars help and shape up the society that we live in today. It is constantly going to change as we become more and more global now, it is only a good thing to get used to it and sort of find a mid path. khush001
I agree with you I think culture wars are good and have a lot of positive effects. It helps a lot of minoritys to fit in to society more. It also helps change and shapes how we look at some grips of people. Player001
Trying to keep the terms and the groups mentioned, straight in my brain while listening was a chore. At this point in American history, I’m sick of the new left wanting to change cultural definitions of old cultural norms while there isn’t even equal standing between the races or between the sexes. Can we take on equal pay first? Can we tackle names like “The Redskins” so that a certain race isn’t completely ostracized and brutally reminded of genocide in the chanting of an unimportant sport event? Can we tackle the selling of children in the sex slave market? Can we prioritize all of these human rights violations before the redefinition of the world collective understanding of and purpose for marriage? The squeaky wheel is the one that gets the oil. The neocon side of this coin lacks any interest from me at this point because of the blatant injustices that roll across the screen at 5 p.m. every day. Arizona001
I think Hartman was right about culture war . It is a Live in to days day and age like Hartman send it did happen in 1960s to 2000s with race and sexuality. I think deviance plays a big role in culture war because it's people going aginst norms.I think culture war we start to grow more and more here in the United States because of our great culture diversity. So we are probably going to see a lot more culture war. I the culture war can be a very good thing like in the 1960s were it was with race ,then you have it with feminization. Player001
I like how Mr. Hartman points out that the 80s and 90s were the adjustment period to the feminist and racial social movements. I wouldn't have thought it to take so long for us to just get with the program. Because there were so many rapid changes in the 60s and 70s it took a while for those changes to catch up. If you think about it, since these changes aren't common, many could still look at it as deviant behavior. For example, I imagine for it to be weird for a white man to be taking orders from a black manager of some sort. Taylojj2
In reality there is culture wars. For real, for real. Because everyone beliefs they are right and their way is the right way which can create conflict with others who have different mentality and approach matters in a much different way than the other. In result all there will be is disagreement and war of who is right and who isn't. SO on, it will continue all over the world. It's how it is. With so many different cultures, religions and all that we are bound to have wars and go our separate ways believing what we want to belief. Even if one doesn't have a religion or just lives his life not really being involved in that sort of stuff. I think that he or she still has beliefs of not wanting to be apart of anything. Those are still beliefs and like to think as yeah one still part of it even if that person doesn't have a religion or whatever. Because they are neglecting it. So they have an opinion towards it. I don't know if it makes sense :/
The video was very informative, relating to the Cultrual Wars. At the beginning of our country, we were growing from old English ways of life, where prejudices would rule our world for centuries. This old way of thinking led to the 1900's where Americans would start to break out of their sense of norm, as technology helped shape the need for change. People started to fight for freedoms of culture; women would get the right to attend university, and also vote. The Civil Rights movement of the 1960's brought about equality to minorities, and also to those whom are empathetic to such causes. Women changed the way families were living. No more Donna Reed syndrome, where all women would be perfect, in perfect houses. Such Liberalism was a shock to what Americans were used to in that idillic way of life, it was hard for conservatives, to grasp the newly forged progressive ways. Neo-Conservatives were gaining momentum in the 70-80's, probably a way to gain control of the country's morality after the Vietnam War, hippie ,and black power movements. The Neo-conservatives were even pushing the churches to preech to favor the political views of conservative ways. They were pushing against government after prayer was abolished in schools. As far as I can see, the whole culture war is about people having the need to be themselves, and the gap between the others who don't "get "so much progressive change. Rosebudd001
I just wanna share that I saw the news and there is a guy running for presidency who's goal for America is to work on the income inequalities that are going on as of today. HollaGurl001
The author Andrew Hartman of the book “A War for the Soul of America” defines the cultural wars being a struggle over national American identity starting back to the beginning of the nation. Being that there was a cultural revolution in the 1960’s being black power, feminism, and gay rights the cultural wars have been the legacy from that transformation. He says that the cultural conflict is ongoing and will never end for the United States which I can agree upon being that everyone has their own opinion on various subjects. He also spoke on the new left being that some cultural wars did not come out to be as successful as others and the ones that did end up being successful had cultural victories. Social power coming into place as a neoconservative thinking about how working hard will get you further in life which economic plays a role as well, making money, being responsible for yourself. Normative of America as the author explains being a working man taking care of the family financially being an ideal society. Not everyone grew up with the leave it to beaver life style that is definitely true not everyone feels like that is the life for them. I can agree that religious values do keep people grounded but I can also say that there are some people that are not religious but they have morals and basically feel as if they do good then good will come to them. The new left, the notion that they could change society, thinking about living different. The interviewee states that the cultural war is really a dynamic, as freedom expands and society progresses there is a constant cultural war because conservatives will act against it which is understandable people will fight for what they feel is right. LAWS001
Who else came to dinner? From the beginning of the movie you could tell that there was an issue, socially, with integrated coupling. Many people, in the airport, watched them in awe or disdain as they walked through the terminal. The Taxi driver was decidedly disapproving. When they arrived at Jo’s mother’s gallery she introduced John to Hilary and there was instantly a look of complete shock. Hillary went, so far as to, show up unannounced at the family home, in order to, express her outrage; she was an accurate representation of how mainstream societal perspective viewed integrated relationships. John being 37 years old and Joanna only being 23 was a 14 year age difference, which gave an interesting dynamic to the couple. John was practical and wise in his judgment of the situation that their relationship would be viewed. John approached the situation through a lens of social conflict, he recognized the inequalities and stigmas that they faced and tried to find a resolution. Joanna, on the other hand, was more like a burst of energy and more immature. She was completely idealistic; this was a testament to socialization she received at the hands of her parents. We think that Joanna viewed the whole situation from a point of view closely aligned with symbolic-interaction theory. She simply saw her love for John as reality, and the most important factor to be considered. Even though John’s family came from middle income, he had achieved master status of a doctor, which affords him social mobility. This made their relationship more acceptable, rather than him being a mail carrier like his father. As a group, we thought, Tilley had the most surprising reaction of all the main characters. From the first introduction, Tilley stereotyped John as being up to no good, and shouldn’t be trusted. She viewed the relationship as a social dysfunction, or a grave deviance from the norm. We believe she was looking out for Joanna’s best interest, but she did so with great prejudice. When the engaged couple met each other’s parents, there was great shock and emotions because of the current culture of the time. The parents represent more of structural functional view of society. They begin to question how this marriage could work, according to their view of what makes society stay in balance. You could say they see things a little “old fashion”. The concept of gender inequality was clearly evident also. Both mothers were in shock, however, we believe this was a combination of disbelief and trepidation about the way the husbands would react to the news. The women were more emotional, but this was portrayed as less desirable. It’s worth noting that this film tackles so many issues but still remains steeped in sexist ideals. The movie was certainly very patriarchal. We all questioned the right of the fathers in determining the fate of the newlyweds. This part of the film was interesting because in today’s society if parents disagree the couple usually will not take their opinion into consideration. The men were the head of the house, as if they were kings. We all liked the social perspective of the monsignor, because he lacked all the constraints that bound the other characters. He was involved, but remained mostly objective. All the characters were challenged to reexamine their core beliefs and make value judgments according to the situation. They had to evaluate their social biases and accept new concepts in order to move forward; or at least be willing to walk in another’s shoes. These are abilities we need to have in order to understand sociology and its application to each of our lives. Toby001, LAWS001, TooTall001, Packers001
A culture war, as described by Mr. Hartman, is a struggle of an American identity. This video was very interesting. It's amazing to think that these culture wars have essentially been going on since day one of the founding of America. I thought it was interesting how he made the comment that Irvin Crystal, who is a Jew, said that American democracy could only survive if it is infused with religious values. Mr. Hartman never said himself if he agreed with it, but in my opinion I do agree with Irvin Crystal. Without any type of religion there would be no moral guidelines. People would do whatever they wanted to do. Also, I thought it was interesting how the host said that there would always be a culture war because no one can ever make every single person happy. There will always be people who do not like a law or rule.
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I think you identified something pretty important, swimmer, and that's the spirit of compromise. The Democratic and Republican parties have been around for a very long time and over the last century, the polarization of these two and the hostility between them has definitely increased. It seems like sometimes it gets to the point of our legislators opposing a bill simply because it belongs to the other party and not their own. I have heard various politicians talk about the importance of walking bi-partisan lines and working on legislation that both parties have to compromise on, but can also agree on. Unfortunately, I can't see I've really seen this happen to a very great extent on the house and senate floors. It seems like the pluralist model of government breaks down in our system of democracy because by the time what the people want actually gets to the attention of the legislators (if it gets there...) it becomes transformed into something consistent with the wants of their party instead of the people.
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I agree with you swimmer001 because without these certain religions there wouldn't be any type of guidelines for each group to follow. Also, there are many people today that do not like the law/rules and there are more and more people this generation that that are going against the law making things harder. Hartman made many suggestions and beliefs on religion and not every one is going to agree because he was expressing his opinion towards things. The law and military will always be around and has been for hundreds of years since we have formed alliances and the law has made the wolrd better overal in my opinion. Yes theres restrictions but it's to keep us in line from doing the things we shouldn't.
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I do agree with you. Our society definately advantages with religion tied into daily life. It's use as a moral code, to bridge gaps between humanity and law. Americans are definately united to religious beliefs, and it especially ties in with our political views; this trickles down to our economic situations.
DeleteAnd my thought about your comment ,"That culture wars had sarted since day one in America," is one and the same. Except that I feel that the oppression that our Country founded itself on is the ultimate cause for all the racially motivated issues. The 1960's Civil Rights Act was mostly a freedom ring for all minority people in America. Rosebudd001
Dominant cultures....Protection of individual rights and freedoms. The myopic and mendacious individuals all in this soup of grey..... Avid Reader007
ReplyDeleteI think it's very interesting to hear this version of how the "culture wars" have played out what with the formation of the new left (a product of sexual revolution and civil rights movement) and neoconservatism (a group formed in reaction to new left). I think the interviewer did a good job of getting Dr. Hartman to apply the sociological perspective to explain how these groups were formed. It's also interesting how the cycle goes of the left pushing for new and expanded rights and legislation (other-directedness) while the right reacts to these pushes and tries to conserve the present and past traditions
ReplyDelete(tradition-directedness). One can definitely see how these two groups are really at the core of our political debate these days and part of why the government is so deadlocked. At the same time, I also found his explanation of libertarianism very interesting, with one side wanting more universal rights for all people and the other more economical rights. They both want good things, the question lies in the ordering of those goods and the willingness of both sides to compromise.
The interviewer also said that "rights have been expanded, but mutual obligations have lessened" and I just wanted to point out that this sounds exactly like Weber's theory of rationalization. Weber feared that progress and modernity could have a dehumanizing effect on society and this certainly seems to have happened, to a certain extent.
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I also thought the description of libertarianism was interesting. I want to think that people are coming from a good place and that they want good as far as humanity goes. But with so many different views out there and more importantly so many different people only wanting to see their point of view and not even willing to listen others, it's going to be difficult to make certain positive changes. And there are some serious issues that people in the near future need to start making just to exist as they have been for years. Environmentally speaking that is. Compromise is an interesting word, hopefully more people in charge will look into it. In the meantime, us out here in the real world, with more information than ever, what can we do to change things or to be heard or to join a movement? How do we get the information to be informed as much as possible to vote in our local elections for example? I'm 36 years old and I understand the importance to know these types of things, but I honestly don't know where to start or how I can help. But want to. Good comments on the video! Wonder Woman001
DeleteMany different areas of subjects to attack within this video. What I took away from this video is Hartman's view on cultural war had several points. He said that neo-cons were in general thought to have believed in normative America. In the 1950s shows like "Leave it to Beaver" portrayed America in it's idealistic way that the man was the patriarch of the family and the breadwinner, the woman's place was in the home submissive to the husband, and their children. They believed that Christianity & American were one in the same. The cons were stuck in this idealistic nostalgia. And their way was the "right" way. Of course this was great unless you were different in anyway from the so-called norms; a woman, gay, or any other color than white. Over the years there were many "wins" for the liberals as far as gaining some equal rights. Looking to the future I believe with so many different cultures we will always be at "war" over one issue or another. Whether or not a better or worse change will come of them is to be seen. WonderWoman001
ReplyDeleteI agree with your last sentence. In my opinion I think ultimately the country will keep growing and evolving for the better. We as a nation have overcome a lot of adversity over the years, and we still are one of the best countries to live in. Yes we have some social and economical problems, but every nation has their own types of problems, it just depends on what it is. I believe that as long as we as a country keep doing what we're doing and make changes when necessary, we will be alright. glassonion001
DeleteThe neocon idea of America is pretty neat looking until you remember that it was in black and white. There are so many different colors and flavors out there that the whole "Leave it to Beaver" world seems like toast with no jelly, butter or anything to give it taste. That world was too idealistic and unreal to survive for very long. Yay for all the wins in equal rights that have feed us from those chains! Arizona001
DeleteI agree with Mr. Hartman's statement about that there has and always will be a culture war in the U.S. I believe this because our nation is full of too many different types of heritages and ethnicity's for there not to be. I don't necessarily think that a culture war is bad either. These types of clashes between groups are necessary to keep nation at it's best. If there aren't any clashes then I think we aren't using our freedom of speech right to it's full potential. Without expressing or using that fundamental American right there won't be any changes in the nation because we aren't speaking our minds and acting upon it. glassonion001
ReplyDeleteI believe that the cultural war will not ever end as well. As long as the 1 percenters are running things we will always experience inequality at their mercy. Maybe if there were less clashes there could be more compromise and peace between the different cultures. TooTall001
DeleteI agree Glassonion001 The freedom of speech is and will always be used in a debate. I feel as if we didn’t have a freedom of speech many things in our nation wouldn’t be the way they are today. I wouldn’t say this nation is perfect, there are definitely flaws but without the freedom of speech we wouldn’t have gay marriage, black rights, working woman, and many more successful debates that are now open to the nation. LAWS001
DeleteI grew up in the "Leave it to Beaver" scenario. I do believe it is an ideal life to live. As far as if I work hard I earned and deserve what I have. And if you don't work hard you shouldn't get what you want given to you. I do however believe in equal rights. Maybe to a certain extent the Culture War is lessening because people are self-centered and don't care anymore to fight for what they believe in. I don't agree with getting your own elected to run your group's agenda, there should be some equal fairness between the different groups with both their beliefs. TooTall001
ReplyDeleteI would agree with you TooTall, I don't agree with with getting your own elected to run your groups own agenda. Pharmaceutical and technology companies are doing this everyday, paying politicians to get there agendas passed and their products on the market.
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I completely agree with your post. If you do not work hard then you should not expect to get all the privileges you want for free. Unless of course you have any type of handicap whether born with, work related, or by any accident. I also agree when it comes to equal rights, this is America freedom is supposed to be at the head of our nation. Toby001
DeleteI found this video very intriguing because of all of the analogies used for example, a wave needs air and force. This video also opened my eyes to how many conflicts we have just within America alone with culture. I agree that there will always be a constant war on culture within our nation and it probably goes on within other countries too. The United States is basically a huge mixing pot of diverse cultures so, I think it is almost expected for there to be cultural conflict. I think if there was not any conflict we would be worried too. This video had some very good points on each topic talked about. Toby001
ReplyDeleteI agree with your comment. I think the United States is a huge mixing pot of diverse cultures so there would be a big chance for cultural conflict. I think a little conflict is good and not to be worried about. I think you are right that we would be worried if we did not have any cultural conflict. SVT001.
DeleteI say Mr. Hartmans right in that there will always be a culture war in the US. i also think fascism is a part of human nature, hate & homophobia are natural. Discrimination is inevitable, everyone and everything is discriminated against at some point. it's a waste of useful time to debate about it. People should accept their situation, to do the most with what they have and not to ask for the unnecessary. Having a right to get married won't make homophobes disappear, discrimination will still always be there. The only difference is that a person that used to be discriminated against is now married but still being discriminated against socially and in the work place.
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I think this video was very interesting to listen too. The actual video part was really boring though. I agree that there is a culture war in the United States. I think that we will continue to have a culture war because of all of the many cultures we have in the United States. This "culture war" is a part of society. We have so many different backgrounds that are living within one nation. I think this is what makes the United States such an interesting place to live. We are a constantly changing country. If you think about it and listen to some of the points in the video you can see that there is a lot of diversity. SVT001.
ReplyDeleteI do think the video was a bit boring because of the speaker, but I still found it interesting. The culture war does make me think if certain things within our country. To be specific, I was raised in a small town where certain things were rarely seen growing up compared to what's happening now. In this southern town it was almost taboo to see interracial couples when I was kid. Now that I'm grown, everyone in my age group has increased that number. Something else seen throughout is the acceptance of both black and white cultures in the small southern town. In this small town alone, there seems to be constant adoption/ warring of cultures in a great way. Taylojj2
DeleteI found this video interesting because there will always be a culture war thoughout any generation. Even if we had less cultures there would still be a culture was going on in the world. A struggle of identity is defined as a culture war by Hartmans and I agree with him to extent. i believe it is more than this. But I don't agree with certain races will do better in life to achieve goals. Each person is different and can anything they would want to do. Our problem is that we classify people before knowing and understanding their situation. There will always be problems through the world and they will never be fixed and this is one because we stand up for what we believe in. These cultures set guidelines for many.
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I agree with you, as it said in video that these cultural wars has been going on since day one. We see it even today, and it doesn't matter how much we progress as society with being considerate about other cultures, there is no where that these cultural wars will stop. And I personally don't think it should either, cause like you said each individuals now stand for what they believe in.
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In my opinion, it is good to have these cultural wars within the country. United States is so diverse with its population from every race to different ethnicity, cultural wars are bound to happen. To my understanding these cultural wars might have negative effect looking at whole picture of just being american, but there are lot of positive effects. So many different people celebrate their festivals and what not in States here, there are Liberal, and conservative people. These people and cultural wars help and shape up the society that we live in today. It is constantly going to change as we become more and more global now, it is only a good thing to get used to it and sort of find a mid path. khush001
ReplyDeleteI agree with you I think culture wars are good and have a lot of positive effects. It helps a lot of minoritys to fit in to society more. It also helps change and shapes how we look at some grips of people. Player001
DeleteTrying to keep the terms and the groups mentioned, straight in my brain while listening was a chore. At this point in American history, I’m sick of the new left wanting to change cultural definitions of old cultural norms while there isn’t even equal standing between the races or between the sexes. Can we take on equal pay first? Can we tackle names like “The Redskins” so that a certain race isn’t completely ostracized and brutally reminded of genocide in the chanting of an unimportant sport event? Can we tackle the selling of children in the sex slave market? Can we prioritize all of these human rights violations before the redefinition of the world collective understanding of and purpose for marriage? The squeaky wheel is the one that gets the oil. The neocon side of this coin lacks any interest from me at this point because of the blatant injustices that roll across the screen at 5 p.m. every day. Arizona001
ReplyDeleteI think Hartman was right about culture war . It is a Live in to days day and age like Hartman send it did happen in 1960s to 2000s with race and sexuality. I think deviance plays a big role in culture war because it's people going aginst norms.I think culture war we start to grow more and more here in the United States because of our great culture diversity. So we are probably going to see a lot more culture war. I the culture war can be a very good thing like in the 1960s were it was with race ,then you have it with feminization. Player001
ReplyDeleteI like how Mr. Hartman points out that the 80s and 90s were the adjustment period to the feminist and racial social movements. I wouldn't have thought it to take so long for us to just get with the program. Because there were so many rapid changes in the 60s and 70s it took a while for those changes to catch up. If you think about it, since these changes aren't common, many could still look at it as deviant behavior. For example, I imagine for it to be weird for a white man to be taking orders from a black manager of some sort. Taylojj2
ReplyDeleteIn reality there is culture wars. For real, for real. Because everyone beliefs they are right and their way is the right way which can create conflict with others who have different mentality and approach matters in a much different way than the other. In result all there will be is disagreement and war of who is right and who isn't. SO on, it will continue all over the world. It's how it is. With so many different cultures, religions and all that we are bound to have wars and go our separate ways believing what we want to belief. Even if one doesn't have a religion or just lives his life not really being involved in that sort of stuff. I think that he or she still has beliefs of not wanting to be apart of anything. Those are still beliefs and like to think as yeah one still part of it even if that person doesn't have a religion or whatever. Because they are neglecting it. So they have an opinion towards it. I don't know if it makes sense :/
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The video was very informative, relating to the Cultrual Wars. At the beginning of our country, we were growing from old English ways of life, where prejudices would rule our world for centuries. This old way of thinking led to the 1900's where Americans would start to break out of their sense of norm, as technology helped shape the need for change. People started to fight for freedoms of culture; women would get the right to attend university, and also vote. The Civil Rights movement of the 1960's brought about equality to minorities, and also to those whom are empathetic to such causes. Women changed the way families were living. No more Donna Reed syndrome, where all women would be perfect, in perfect houses. Such Liberalism was a shock to what Americans were used to in that idillic way of life, it was hard for conservatives, to grasp the newly forged progressive ways. Neo-Conservatives were gaining momentum in the 70-80's, probably a way to gain control of the country's morality after the Vietnam War, hippie ,and black power movements.
ReplyDeleteThe Neo-conservatives were even pushing the churches to preech to favor the political views of conservative ways. They were pushing against government after prayer was abolished in schools.
As far as I can see, the whole culture war is about people having the need to be themselves, and the gap between the others who don't "get "so much progressive change. Rosebudd001
I just wanna share that I saw the news and there is a guy running for presidency who's goal for America is to work on the income inequalities that are going on as of today.
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The author Andrew Hartman of the book “A War for the Soul of America” defines the cultural wars being a struggle over national American identity starting back to the beginning of the nation. Being that there was a cultural revolution in the 1960’s being black power, feminism, and gay rights the cultural wars have been the legacy from that transformation. He says that the cultural conflict is ongoing and will never end for the United States which I can agree upon being that everyone has their own opinion on various subjects. He also spoke on the new left being that some cultural wars did not come out to be as successful as others and the ones that did end up being successful had cultural victories. Social power coming into place as a neoconservative thinking about how working hard will get you further in life which economic plays a role as well, making money, being responsible for yourself. Normative of America as the author explains being a working man taking care of the family financially being an ideal society. Not everyone grew up with the leave it to beaver life style that is definitely true not everyone feels like that is the life for them. I can agree that religious values do keep people grounded but I can also say that there are some people that are not religious but they have morals and basically feel as if they do good then good will come to them. The new left, the notion that they could change society, thinking about living different. The interviewee states that the cultural war is really a dynamic, as freedom expands and society progresses there is a constant cultural war because conservatives will act against it which is understandable people will fight for what they feel is right. LAWS001
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ReplyDeleteFrom the beginning of the movie you could tell that there was an issue, socially, with integrated coupling. Many people, in the airport, watched them in awe or disdain as they walked through the terminal. The Taxi driver was decidedly disapproving. When they arrived at Jo’s mother’s gallery she introduced John to Hilary and there was instantly a look of complete shock. Hillary went, so far as to, show up unannounced at the family home, in order to, express her outrage; she was an accurate representation of how mainstream societal perspective viewed integrated relationships. John being 37 years old and Joanna only being 23 was a 14 year age difference, which gave an interesting dynamic to the couple. John was practical and wise in his judgment of the situation that their relationship would be viewed. John approached the situation through a lens of social conflict, he recognized the inequalities and stigmas that they faced and tried to find a resolution. Joanna, on the other hand, was more like a burst of energy and more immature. She was completely idealistic; this was a testament to socialization she received at the hands of her parents. We think that Joanna viewed the whole situation from a point of view closely aligned with symbolic-interaction theory. She simply saw her love for John as reality, and the most important factor to be considered. Even though John’s family came from middle income, he had achieved master status of a doctor, which affords him social mobility. This made their relationship more acceptable, rather than him being a mail carrier like his father. As a group, we thought, Tilley had the most surprising reaction of all the main characters. From the first introduction, Tilley stereotyped John as being up to no good, and shouldn’t be trusted. She viewed the relationship as a social dysfunction, or a grave deviance from the norm. We believe she was looking out for Joanna’s best interest, but she did so with great prejudice. When the engaged couple met each other’s parents, there was great shock and emotions because of the current culture of the time. The parents represent more of structural functional view of society. They begin to question how this marriage could work, according to their view of what makes society stay in balance. You could say they see things a little “old fashion”. The concept of gender inequality was clearly evident also. Both mothers were in shock, however, we believe this was a combination of disbelief and trepidation about the way the husbands would react to the news. The women were more emotional, but this was portrayed as less desirable. It’s worth noting that this film tackles so many issues but still remains steeped in sexist ideals. The movie was certainly very patriarchal. We all questioned the right of the fathers in determining the fate of the newlyweds. This part of the film was interesting because in today’s society if parents disagree the couple usually will not take their opinion into consideration. The men were the head of the house, as if they were kings. We all liked the social perspective of the monsignor, because he lacked all the constraints that bound the other characters. He was involved, but remained mostly objective. All the characters were challenged to reexamine their core beliefs and make value judgments according to the situation. They had to evaluate their social biases and accept new concepts in order to move forward; or at least be willing to walk in another’s shoes. These are abilities we need to have in order to understand sociology and its application to each of our lives. Toby001, LAWS001, TooTall001, Packers001