Broken Windows: Repairable?

Broken Windows: Repairable?

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  1. I'm support his article 100%. Community members of society, weather the're from the poverty end or the wealthy end of society, need to take into consideration that cops do care about the well being of an individual. Cops try to look at both sides of the party to make a decision on what action to take in the case of Domestic Violence. Another example can be a traffic stop. Someone gets pulled over for speeding and has absolutely no criminal background. The officer may take into consideration of that and only give you a warning. If an individual over reacts to a situation and believes that the cop is "out to get them" then they may face a ticket that could of been avoided. Law enforcement and restaurants are similar to one another. The Legislator being the back of the house (cooks) while cops are the front of the house (severs). As a citizen (customer) you may not like the laws (food) and if you break a simple law and get fined or jailed, you shouldn't fight the cops or complain to them if they take action because they didn't make the laws. The actions of assuming a minority male of doing wrong is a issue however. Everywhere on the news it pours about a black male committing a crime or a Mexican selling drugs on the streets that got busted. I feel that is wrong for the media to push weather it is true or not. Also if a minority is wronged it is the defendant at is immediately accused of doing injustice. Recently with the Ferguson event the cop was accused of brutality without giving him a chance to explain his side of the story. With all this said it justifies that the connection between citizens and officers is severely damaged. Citizens are very scared of cops weather the're fallowing the law or not.

    Number1whiteguy456

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    1. I agree with you because the media is portraying everyone as the bad guy especially the cop ad not the civilian that was the one doing the harm. Just like in my comment that I made, everything I said I could of said for yours. bodybuilder456

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    2. It is true that the media always portrays the cops as the bad guys and makes the civilians some type of martyr. For example, in Ferguson when Michael Brown was shot most people don't know that he robbed a convenient store right before. I'm not going to say who was right and who was wrong, but i'm sure both sides of the story have some points that can make you emphasize with either side.


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    3. It's very type that the media portrays cops as bad guys, and I don't think that's fair. You should tell every angle of the story and nothing but the truth. We as Americans deserve nothing but the facts. You couldn't of said it better. DiCaprio 456

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    4. I agree with everyone, the way cops are portrayed through the media is ridiculous. Everyone is so quick to assume that cops are the bad guys when in reality, they're trying to help keep everyone safe. People to to learn to say what people need to know, not what they want to hear. Tiger456

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  2. I agree with this article because some of these police offers. Now I am only saying some because some cops are corrupt. But some of these police officers are getting cracked down on by the media. The media is what causing the problem because all these cops are doing there job and if they get off guard one time they get punished for it which is not very fair at all. Bodybuilder 456

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  3. I also agree with this article for several reasons. I think the stop, question, frisk method is a pretty good method. Its not a perfect method but whether you think its right or wrong, it gets the job done sometimes. I think most people can agree that we have all been to a place where we see a person who looks a little off. We think that they are up to no good and we watch them carefully and make sure they don't anything wrong. The problems with the SQF method is people saying that the officer was discriminating against them and chose them because of (insert reason here). Also, people complain that the officer treated them unfairly, such as being rude or violent with them. The media wants you to think that all cops are cruel, racist, or violent. That's not true; yes, there are the police officers who are like that, but most of them aren't. The media also wants you to think that all of the cops practicing the SQF method are dirty cops, but its just them doing their job. Getting rid of this method would not help at all. In fact it would make cities more dangerous, because police officers wouldn't catch somebod before they commit a crime.

    GodFieri456

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    1. I agree that the stop, question, frisk method is a good method to use. I feel that people are getting more sensitive when dealing with the police. if you don't give them a reason to stop you, you wouldn't have the problem. I also agree with your idea that the way people act and look can raise suspicion. We have all done it one time or another so I don't know why it is so bad when the police do it. The media is out to put a bad name for law enforcement. I think this because I cant remember the last time I saw the police on the news for doing something good. I agree with most of the points you made in your comment but the point I agree with the most is when you mentioned how the crime would raise if the SQF method got taken away and how you can expect things to get better if the police cant do their jobs. KLICK456

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  4. I agree with the article. Things can always be fixed especially with the laws always changing. Officers need to be clean minded individuals and open to things. This is a good system when it's not being abused. When it's abused it could definitely reek havoc on society and local law enforcement. If a dirty officer uses this method they're not benefiting anyone but themselves. If it is broken then it should be fixed. But when it comes to this type of policing it could be useful in moderation. If they fixed this way of policing I think it would definitely affect the way we police our cities.It is supposed to be used to attract criminals so the police can bust the big underlying problem. When it comes to the public this may be a beneficial way to use it in the 21st century way of policing. SQF can be abused especially by male officers. It should be regulated to males only searching males and females only being able to search females. It can be a very useful method when used for its actual intentions. If a male can't contact a female officer to do the SQF then the female should be detained and taken to the station, and vise versa. In the end they can both be very useful methods if used in the right ways and not abused.

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  5. ~caz456


    I agree with the article. Things can always be fixed especially with the laws always changing. Officers need to be clean minded individuals and open to things. This is a good system when it's not being abused. When it's abused it could definitely reek havoc on society and local law enforcement. If a dirty officer uses this method they're not benefiting anyone but themselves. If it is broken then it should be fixed. But when it comes to this type of policing it could be useful in moderation. If they fixed this way of policing I think it would definitely affect the way we police our cities.It is supposed to be used to attract criminals so the police can bust the big underlying problem. When it comes to the public this may be a beneficial way to use it in the 21st century way of policing. SQF can be abused especially by male officers. It should be regulated to males only searching males and females only being able to search females. It can be a very useful method when used for its actual intentions. If a male can't contact a female officer to do the SQF then the female should be detained and taken to the station, and vise versa. In the end they can both be very useful methods if used in the right ways and not abused.
    ~caz456

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      ~caz456

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    2. I agree with you about the way laws changing will affect local law enforcement. I also agree that good officers can make it work. However, I do not feel the same way as you on the male and female roles in SQF. I do not see why a male cannot stop, question, and frisk a women and vice versa. I am going to assume the part that bothered you was the frisking, if that is the case then if a police officer has enough reason to frisk someone then they are more than likely going to be taken in for something. You cannot just put someone in the back of the squad car without frisking first just because they are of different gender. That person could be armed and your just going to stroll right into the police station with them without even checking? Frisking is not a sexual act and necessary for the safety of the police officers, civilians, and the person them self.

      Earthquake 456

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    3. I agree that there is always room for improvement and as we evolve as a society the police will have to as well. I did like how you used "should be used in a moderation." I thought it was a good tactic to zero in on the bigger busts than the smaller problems that go on. I think there will need to be more leverage for a male officer to frisk a woman with some CYA tactics. An example is mileage knowing how far you drove from point A to B and setting a time from time A to time B. All and all, these should be put into our toolbox of tactics to use in the future.


      ~Palmdaddy456

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  6. I agree that both methods, if you used correctly and adapted to each situation accordingly, can be very effective in today's policing. The media today has tried to make the government look like the bad guy no matter what is happening. Police have the most contact with the citizens and because of this will get the brunt of their hatred, no matter if it is something they are responsible for or not. I believe most police officers are honestly trying to do their best to keep the peace in neighborhoods, which seems very difficult when they very people they are trying to protect are putting them under scrutiny for simply doing their job. They now have to check themselves before they do anything, for fear that someone will complain that they mistreated them and get the media involved. I feel bad for current and upcoming police officers, everything they do will be watched and criticized simply because to many people like being the victim. To many people want pity even though they more than likely do not deserve it.

    Earthquake 456

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    1. I like your thought process on this one. I agree that if police used both tactics depending on the situation given that it would be much more effective. Police can engage with society and be polite without discrimination while using the SQF tactic. They need to find a way to morph the two methods together for the greater good of society and protecting it -Eclipse456

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  7. I agree with this article because their are certain cops that know how to their job and to do their job well. As cops you are forced to make split second decisions on what they think is right do to in that situation. What the cop did in furguson was right and wrong.The things the cop did right was that he felt threatened so he drew his gun gave the kid several warnings to stop the kid did not stop so he was forced to shoot him in fear of his own life and his well being. The things he did wrong and could have done differently was to not confront the kid who had just robbed a store by himself he should have waited in his car and watched the kid and waited for back up and the whole ordeal with all the violence and riots could have been avoided if the officer had done it differently. I am a sergent of an explores post and when this ordeal happened we all talked about it as a post and how it could of turned out differently if the officer had used different tactics and made better decision making skills. Someone just pulled a gun on you. What would you do? If you sat and thought about it your daed because in this line of work you can't sit and think about split second decisions or you will die.

    savage456

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  8. In respect to the article and the referencing of the NYPD I feel that these practices are fair and serve purpose in the 21st century of police. Though I do feel, as the article said about the broken glass metaphor, if there is something broken and is left that way the way the object/scenario is represented may lure criminal deviance. Deviance is defined as a behavior that is considered against the norms established by society. Opposed to a nicer neighborhood, which is patrolled frequently. If the city has a negative connotation to like a "south side" busts would be on a larger scale. I feel like the city should put the "glass together" and fix the city to the best of its ability, so growth can be a cornerstone for community revival.
    On with the SQF, there has been a lot of scrutiny upon this practice because of the use of abuse. The factors that have contributed to this abused system such as racial profiling and possibility for sexual touching from a male officer to a female. These have soon been declining, though with the use of 21st century technology through the body cam. Though I am not saying do not frisk them, especially if they are detained and entering the police car by all means do that for your protection and whoever else will be in contact with the person. With what I was trying to present is if your going around the community and all of a sudden see something shady then push the SQF method the officer should still promote a fair treatment and a voice for the person who is being detained. Sober minded is the key for this as the officer is granted the power by the state and needs to perceive people in a neutral manner. This model was used in the perspective of living in a perfect world. These methods are important for safety and the well being of the officer, the community, and the surrounding areas.
    We should be prepared to use these tools and have them at the ready and slowly integrate these into police practices today.

    ~ Palmdaddy456

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    1. I really enjoyed how you described deviance, it helped me to better improve my understand your comment. I agree with the fact that it takes a sober minded officer to frisk someone of the opposite gender. I definitely think that these methods if used the right way will be very useful to policing our streets.
      ~caz456

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  9. The SQF method is what I think keeps a lot of sketchy people of the streets. when thinking about policing practices you cant help think of the things that could change< the SQF method is not one of the things I think should change. Also I think the local police dept. should get involved in the community and show the youth of society that the police are here to protect and serve not harass and abuse their authority. don't get me wrong some cops out their are a cop fro the wrong reasons, but most are actually working to make a difference in society and out the broken pieces back together. Media is out to give law enforcement a bad name and make everyone feel uncomfortable when they come in contact with police. It should not be like that at all, the people should feel safe and protect ted when they come in contact with police.
    KLICK456

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    1. I agree with you when you say the police need to get involved in the community. Where I'm from I rarely see the police. They're barely taking radar let alone going out into the community. I see police in other areas that are always around and they'll talk to people. I've seen police out playing with the youth and educating them about police work. I think America needs to reward the police officers who do a good job. instead of making them all look like bad guys
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  10. I think this article hits it spot on. There needs to be conversation between the communities and the police. The citizens are the ones being offended, and they know where crimes are happening. The SQF method worked in the 80's, and it's still working today. So why fix something that isn't broken? Police are currently having problems in the community, and the broken-windows program helps fix that. Getting police out there into the community to help stop criminals, and to show people that they are there to help them. Not abuse their power.
    -rose456

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  11. I think the media focuses too much on the police that are abusing their power. If people look at the police as a whole there are good police that do their jobs than bad. Being an intern for a lawyer and seeing the worst in society however, I can see how hard it is not to see the worst and be on edge. I think the SQF method is still very strong. People also fail to realize that police are trained to keep other people safe as well as themselves. If someone is being disrespectful at a road stop that person will most likely be getting the ticket. When I was taking behind the wheel class in high school, we watched a video about road stops. What the video said was, that if it is at night and someone get's stopped, and they are shifting through things in their car most likely that police officer is either going to come up with his hand on his gun, or he's going to come up with his gun in his hand. He is trying to protect himself, and that is what people fail to see.
    dance456

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    1. I agree with all of your points you made. Ignorance is one thing today that most of society is when it comes to law enforcement. I do ride alongs frequently and just by seeing what a police officer goes through and how they do the job changed the way I look at all police officer and why they do what they do. They are just trying to protect citizens and themselves. They are just doing what they are trained to do. Broncos456

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    2. I agree with all of your points you made. Ignorance is one thing today that most of society is when it comes to law enforcement. I do ride alongs frequently and just by seeing what a police officer goes through and how they do the job changed the way I look at all police officer and why they do what they do. They are just trying to protect citizens and themselves. They are just doing what they are trained to do. Broncos456

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  12. This article intrigued me so much, I think some citizens should read this article just to see a different side of law enforcement. The article does say there are clearly, risks and challenges associated with each strategy. But I believe both strategies are good strategies being a police officer in the 21st century. I do believe there are some police officers that do abuse their power, and should follow more of the points made in this article, but with ease. You as a police officer are entering communities and neighborhoods that you should respect. But I also know that their are police officers who do not answer their power, and know nothing but protecting and serving their community, but some people fail to see the other side and only focus on the negative side of law enforcement. Media has a lot to do with the rep of some police officers, the only report what they want. Here's something to think about ( if you buy a bag of apples and one of the apples is bad, does that mean you throw the whole bag away?) - dicaprio456

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  13. According to "The Center of Constitutional Rights", studies have shown that between 2004-20012, NYPD have stopped 52% of blacks for questioning, 31% Hispanic, and only 10% of Whites and 8% other. This proves that the "Stop, Question, and Frisk" policing method was out of control when being used. Personally, I think that it is a violation of the 14th amendment in some cases. The 14th amendment guarantees natural born citizens equality, but today, some other races such as Blacks and Hispanics are getting discriminated against and questioned and acted upon by police for no reason (statistics supported by the studies I mention earlier). I think that the "broken windows" policing method is a much better way to show the American people that police are here to protect, and not abuse. "Broken windows" gets police to interact with the citizens and help control more violent crime that is dangerous to them. Police departments are making their officers wear cameras to show their point of view, which will prevent police from abusing power and makes them want to cooperation with society and the citizens of it. "Broken windows" includes problem solving, engagement with society, and crime analysis so cops won't jump straight to the point, it forces them to think about the evidence. I totally agree with using Broken Windows policing method for the 21st century -Eclipse456

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    1. It is interesting to see the statistics for which racial groups are stopped more frequently for questioning. Although it may not prove that the SQF policing method is out of control, it highly suggests that when it was being used, many officers were using it incorrectly. Discrimination when using SQF appears to be relevant, but since it is nearly impossibly to stop a police officer from racially judging a character, then the only other option is to use the Broken Windows policing method. As you stated, this method will be helpful to police departments because it makes the officers stop and logically think a situation and character through before jumping to irrational conclusions.

      OldHollywood456

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  14. I personally agree with the Stop, Question, Frisk method. By using this method it gives police officers the ability to potentially prevent a crime from being made. By frisking they can get violent weapons off of the streets because there are a lot of citizens that illegally carry weapons especially in bigger cities. Most people complain that they were "targeted" by the police when they were stopped. I will admit that sometimes that may be the case, but majority of the time police officers are just doing one of the many things they were trained to do, look for suspicious behavior and stop and prevent the crime from happening. But if you are not doing anything wrong or illegal then you wont have anything to worry about. I also think that the Broken Windows method will help decrease the complaints about police not engaging with the community. It will send out a positive message to society that Police aren't just trying to pull over people and write citations. Broncos456

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    1. I agree 100%. There are way too many weapons being held illegally by citizens of a community. Whether it be rural or a city population, it is still dangerous. If they were associating SQF with the procedural justice tactic, there would be less issues with the procedure. Everyone likes to hear something positive in the community and I believe that if it was used, a lot of issues would be resolved. KayaJ456

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  15. Both methods that are explained in this article are methods that, when used correctly, are helpful to the community. With power can also come corruption, so unfortunately the SQF method has recently been used incorrectly by police officers. As I have mentioned before, it is crucial for a police officer to know how to judge a character and situation correctly. If an officer uses the SQF to his or her advantage, then this is where we see society turning against the entire police department and in major cases, the criminal justice system. The Broken Windows theory, on the other hand, is a policing method that involves ordered, clean environments and a maintained community to send the signal out to others that it is managed and controlled. With the Broken Windows theory, trust and respect can be cultivated within the residents of the community. It is only when community members begin to disrupt and destroy the community's cultural fabric. Once unwanted people are invited into the controlled society, problems begin to arise. If the rules of the Broken Windows policy are followed, this may be the best policing method to use today and in the future.

    OldHollywood456

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    1. I totally agree with you on prejudging a character to the police officer’s advantage. It is a very necessary thing to do. As kids we were “do not judge a book by its cover.” Morally it’s not right to. But humans naturally do this. Sometimes and especially in the world of policing it is better to be safe than sorry… taggswag456

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  16. I am slightly confused by this article. But the parts I did understand definitely made good points. There is definitely a place for SQF in today's world and criminal justice system. Many people want to cause trouble or be "smart" because they think they know their rights. While yes you have rights as a citizen. But as a police officer you also have rights. One of those being to stop and frisk a suspicious person. Then citizens will say the police officer is just doing that because he/she is a minority. When in fact that is just not correct. Thus splitting the line between police officers and their community inhabitants. They are not seeing eye to eye, thus driving the community apart and making the trust between officers of the law and citizens diminish. Craig456

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  17. To me nowadays police officers and their strategies are being questioned way too often because of recent events. In the news today, companies like CNN only want to point out the bad events going on in today’s world. They never want to display a good act that anyone committed. News stations are showing that the glass of milk is half empty when actually the glass of milk is half full. In the article it talks about basically what cops do in response to a basic broken window. This tells them how to react to the area around in. In chapter two as you read through it you will find out there are different ways of approaching parts of a city. The main two parts that stuck out to me were the suburbs and the inner city. It is pretty obvious that an officer will react a lot different depending on where the incident is located. It is not a good human trait to judge but at the same time it is very necessary in situations like this. Taggswag456

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  18. I do believe that broken windows is a very thorough technique in policing and should be used in every community. It will help put an end to racial profiling and stop a lot of the discrimination that goes along with crimes and arrests. Disorder does matter to citizens, as the author of the article stated. The community wants to know exactly what is going on around them and how they can help. With this tactic, it really gives Americans a chance to put their two cents in. I feel as this would provide citizens with more of a "safer" feeling in their community. If there happened to be a lot of disorder, things would go out of control. However, if this was used more often, there would be more strategy to policing, which would be more efficient in most cases. KayaJ456

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