This article made me question the prejudice that still is rampant in America today. I thought the zero tolerance policy was extremely arrogant and almost racist in a sense. The whole idea of having a bunch of charter schools also lessens the opportunity that it gives to anyone pursuing an education. Not all people can afford to send their kids to private schools, and it makes me sick that this still goes on. Why can't we treat everyone equally? What happened to the land of the free? An African American girl got suspended for carrying a comb, this is just absurd to even think about! It seems that Louisiana is a very prejudice state, and it sickens me that black kids are getting "pushed out" of the school system. We have an easy time pointing fingers at the black community when they are on the news for committing crimes, but have we ever stopped to think that this may be the cause of what we have all contributed to? We need to take care of one another folks, and above all, love one another!
Reading about how teachers can pick and choose who to give specific punishments to is ridiculous. So many opportunities can be missed for having a suspension on their record just for lip smacking or rolling their eyes. I completely understand that these are still signs of disrespect but to have that severe of a consequence is taking it too far. The bill to be able to appeal suspensions would have benefited children attending New Orleans' schools, but to no surprise was vetoed. Teachers should be more equip to handle more troubling students instead of pushing them out of school when they become overwhelmed. With something as catastrophic as Hurricane Katrina displacing millions of families I couldn't imagine how much of a toll it took on the emotionally. So to start finally putting back together the pieces of there lives and not have the support of their community must be hard. But with suspension rates as high as 50 percent this shows a problem with the educational system not the children. Scooby123
I couldn't have said it better myself. Yes, they may be signs of disrespect, but they do not deserve serious consequences. Instead of being suspended for these, they should just get talked to. They are not as serious as someone getting into a fight. Teacher are supposed to be there for every student, not just a select few. Schools are supposed to be a safe place, but when some students are getting in trouble for little things, the others are afraid that they are going to get in trouble for everything. FBI123
I agree with teachers disciplining students to much. Its forcing students to dropout and not do anything with their lives besides delinquent acts. Its crazy to image so many people dropping out. Teachers need to be nurtures and bring kids up not tear down every mistake they make. Bassfishing123
I agree as teachers need to relax on the suspensions, detentions for the small disciplinary manners. It teaches kids nothing and it grows hate rather than respect. A kid will prefer a one a one talk after class so they feel like the teachers actually does care to help and not throw them in detention and come closer to debating on dropping out. Any disrespect should be punished, but be aware of what the threat or situation is about. If they cared more for their actual students and not just their paycheck then more kids would enjoy learning and attending class. They may also claim that "its not their job to discipline children" but it is. You are a mentor, and your job is to make a positive impact on a childs mind and heart which goes further than the classroom. Especially with the race issue. Show all students attention. If we want to begin a generation where everyone sees no color, it begins with youth and those who make a positive impact at a young age.
I totally agree with this, isn't it insane how they are basically favoring people over one another? This article disgusted me with just how blatantly someone can put down another student based on race, or even just where they came from. I definitely agree with you when you sat it's the system and not the children! BenRoethlisberger123
Even before reading this article, it was very clear growing up that teacher would always pick their "favorite" students. Those students were the ones who never got in trouble for anything. Even though the teacher would tell the person next to them to go sit in the hall way or put their name on the board for the exact same thing. I went to a private school until the 5th grade, and I had to wear uniforms. There were suppose inspection days were the principal would come in and make sure we were wearing the correct uniforms and to make sure we had our shirts tucked in and a belt on. The first time we made a mistake, it would be a warning. The second was a lunch detention, and the third was a call home and an after school detention. I always thought that this was tough, but reading about what is going on in New Orleans makes me question whether they really care about the students education. FBI123
No wonder we have so many people who are juvenile delinquents. It is because they think that they are already doing something bad when they get suspended for something as simple as rolling their eyes. Granted, that’s not something that should continue to happen, but it is not worthy of a suspension by no means. I feel like teachers should be there for children to learn and to teach them proper etiquette of a classroom not to continue bringing them down. They tell parents “If you automatically withdraw your child, we will not record it as a suspension.” That is absolutely ridiculous! From a parent’s point of view, I don’t understand how that is beneficial for the child or how schools would get away with that. By the time the students got suspended or withdrawn, there would be no one left which would possibly cause the juvenile rates to continue to go up. CSI 123
Exactly! Although a suspension not going on the child's record if they drop their attendance at the school may sound like a good decision at first, that child loses potentially weeks of essential education trying to transfer schools. I think schools now a days are only thinking about the bottom line. Receiving funding is more important than educating students, which leaves these kids with a higher likelihood of getting caught in the juvenile system. It is sad that before they are even taught basic academic skills, their community teaches them that they don't matter. Scooby123
Kids are going to do bad things they do them all the time. When they start seeing a trend of being able to get away with petty things the school recognizes that and punishes them. There has to be a fine line about how the punishment is given. Maybe a 1 time suspension would suffice to maybe show a kid they aren't messing around but I feel as if a suspension is almost glamorizing not being in school. I mean it almost gives the kid exactly what they want. Most kids say they hate school and don't want to go so when they see that if they are doing bad things get them out of school that might push kids to doing bad things in order to get out of school. I believe that the school system needs to remake the disciplinary system because really it does no good for kids when they get kicked out of school and their grades suffer because of it. Just because they get in trouble that does not mean their grades should be affected.
New Orleans school districts are doing just the opposite of what they are trying to do. The harsh punishments for small infractions are one of many reasons that school districts are losing kids and seeing such a drastic dropout rate. The interview revealed that many white teachers from other regions dont fit in and cant adapt to a black majority school. I feel as if the students dont feel accepted if the teacher is trying to pick them apart and correct them each time they make small mistakes. I was supprised to see that over fifty percent of the students are getting suspended. If kids arent in school because they are suspended all the time, it only makes sense that kids will start dropping out because they won't be at the same educational level. Just like we discussed in class on Wednesday, when majority or close to half of the kids dropout of school it becomes contagious and might seem normal. Bassfishing123
I had a firsthand experience of how similar issues that are taking place in New Orleans. I dropped out of high school freshman year and my reasons were as follows. Teachers literally pushed me out. They didn’t care for my education and only there for the paycheck. When asking questions, they would say read what the packet says! That doesn’t get me to love school if all I hit was walls of confusion with the leader not leading. Second of all I got written up for the clothes I wore. Black and a prime color was looked as gangbanging and so I started racking up detentions. I was a good kid, never talked back, helped my classmates and respected authority. What is occurring in New Orleans is the very thing that "pushed" me out. Just because someone claps their lips or roll their eyes doesn’t mean you should slap them with a suspension. If you think that will make them respect the system, you're wrong. It will make them hate and be rebellious against the system if anything. Too many bright minds are being ruined because of instead of correcting the issue, they make into a bigger one. I always believed their was a racial issue with this as teachers in my old school did fear the minorities. They were lenient on the small population of white kids that attended my old high school. But would hit latinos, and blacks with severe punishments. Which makes it feel for like a jail rather than a sanctuary of learning. With New Orleans the main factor teachers think about is how Hurricane Katrina affected the lives of the children who have been traumatized by the hurricane. Picking out favorites will not help with self esteem nor the learning process of our youth. Everyone deserves equal attention!
It seems that schools these days have really been putting on more and more rules and it seems they have really lost perspective of what it is they are actually doing. School is a place of education, a place where children go to learn and gather information to use for the rest of their lives. Of course kids are going to mess around and get into trouble but it should not be the reason that kids are being pushed out of school. I mean if kids are fighting or just getting really out of hand then yes, but stuff like dress code, cursing, being tardy is quite ridiculous. How can a child learn when they have so much hanging over their head already as it is. They are under stress from the school work alone but to be kicked pt of school for having a hole in your jeans, or saying a cuss word when they are mad, or being late this does not teach children discipline this shows them that they are unwanted. If you want to show them how to have real discipline and respect maybe give them detention or a task that needs to be completed this way the kid can still go to school but be disciplined at the same time. Also with racism in the mix that just adds to the tension within schools kids should not have to deal with that at any point of their lives and its sad its happening. They need to reform the schools in that area because without that I feel that no learning will honestly take place until it is.
This article made me question the prejudice that still is rampant in America today. I thought the zero tolerance policy was extremely arrogant and almost racist in a sense. The whole idea of having a bunch of charter schools also lessens the opportunity that it gives to anyone pursuing an education. Not all people can afford to send their kids to private schools, and it makes me sick that this still goes on. Why can't we treat everyone equally? What happened to the land of the free? An African American girl got suspended for carrying a comb, this is just absurd to even think about! It seems that Louisiana is a very prejudice state, and it sickens me that black kids are getting "pushed out" of the school system. We have an easy time pointing fingers at the black community when they are on the news for committing crimes, but have we ever stopped to think that this may be the cause of what we have all contributed to? We need to take care of one another folks, and above all, love one another!
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DeleteReading about how teachers can pick and choose who to give specific punishments to is ridiculous. So many opportunities can be missed for having a suspension on their record just for lip smacking or rolling their eyes. I completely understand that these are still signs of disrespect but to have that severe of a consequence is taking it too far. The bill to be able to appeal suspensions would have benefited children attending New Orleans' schools, but to no surprise was vetoed. Teachers should be more equip to handle more troubling students instead of pushing them out of school when they become overwhelmed. With something as catastrophic as Hurricane Katrina displacing millions of families I couldn't imagine how much of a toll it took on the emotionally. So to start finally putting back together the pieces of there lives and not have the support of their community must be hard. But with suspension rates as high as 50 percent this shows a problem with the educational system not the children. Scooby123
ReplyDeleteI couldn't have said it better myself. Yes, they may be signs of disrespect, but they do not deserve serious consequences. Instead of being suspended for these, they should just get talked to. They are not as serious as someone getting into a fight. Teacher are supposed to be there for every student, not just a select few. Schools are supposed to be a safe place, but when some students are getting in trouble for little things, the others are afraid that they are going to get in trouble for everything. FBI123
DeleteI agree with teachers disciplining students to much. Its forcing students to dropout and not do anything with their lives besides delinquent acts. Its crazy to image so many people dropping out. Teachers need to be nurtures and bring kids up not tear down every mistake they make.
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I agree as teachers need to relax on the suspensions, detentions for the small disciplinary manners. It teaches kids nothing and it grows hate rather than respect. A kid will prefer a one a one talk after class so they feel like the teachers actually does care to help and not throw them in detention and come closer to debating on dropping out. Any disrespect should be punished, but be aware of what the threat or situation is about. If they cared more for their actual students and not just their paycheck then more kids would enjoy learning and attending class. They may also claim that "its not their job to discipline children" but it is. You are a mentor, and your job is to make a positive impact on a childs mind and heart which goes further than the classroom. Especially with the race issue. Show all students attention. If we want to begin a generation where everyone sees no color, it begins with youth and those who make a positive impact at a young age.
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I totally agree with this, isn't it insane how they are basically favoring people over one another? This article disgusted me with just how blatantly someone can put down another student based on race, or even just where they came from. I definitely agree with you when you sat it's the system and not the children! BenRoethlisberger123
ReplyDeleteEven before reading this article, it was very clear growing up that teacher would always pick their "favorite" students. Those students were the ones who never got in trouble for anything. Even though the teacher would tell the person next to them to go sit in the hall way or put their name on the board for the exact same thing. I went to a private school until the 5th grade, and I had to wear uniforms. There were suppose inspection days were the principal would come in and make sure we were wearing the correct uniforms and to make sure we had our shirts tucked in and a belt on. The first time we made a mistake, it would be a warning. The second was a lunch detention, and the third was a call home and an after school detention. I always thought that this was tough, but reading about what is going on in New Orleans makes me question whether they really care about the students education. FBI123
ReplyDeleteNo wonder we have so many people who are juvenile delinquents. It is because they think that they are already doing something bad when they get suspended for something as simple as rolling their eyes. Granted, that’s not something that should continue to happen, but it is not worthy of a suspension by no means. I feel like teachers should be there for children to learn and to teach them proper etiquette of a classroom not to continue bringing them down. They tell parents “If you automatically withdraw your child, we will not record it as a suspension.” That is absolutely ridiculous! From a parent’s point of view, I don’t understand how that is beneficial for the child or how schools would get away with that. By the time the students got suspended or withdrawn, there would be no one left which would possibly cause the juvenile rates to continue to go up. CSI 123
ReplyDeleteExactly! Although a suspension not going on the child's record if they drop their attendance at the school may sound like a good decision at first, that child loses potentially weeks of essential education trying to transfer schools. I think schools now a days are only thinking about the bottom line. Receiving funding is more important than educating students, which leaves these kids with a higher likelihood of getting caught in the juvenile system. It is sad that before they are even taught basic academic skills, their community teaches them that they don't matter. Scooby123
DeleteKids are going to do bad things they do them all the time. When they start seeing a trend of being able to get away with petty things the school recognizes that and punishes them. There has to be a fine line about how the punishment is given. Maybe a 1 time suspension would suffice to maybe show a kid they aren't messing around but I feel as if a suspension is almost glamorizing not being in school. I mean it almost gives the kid exactly what they want. Most kids say they hate school and don't want to go so when they see that if they are doing bad things get them out of school that might push kids to doing bad things in order to get out of school. I believe that the school system needs to remake the disciplinary system because really it does no good for kids when they get kicked out of school and their grades suffer because of it. Just because they get in trouble that does not mean their grades should be affected.
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New Orleans school districts are doing just the opposite of what they are trying to do. The harsh punishments for small infractions are one of many reasons that school districts are losing kids and seeing such a drastic dropout rate. The interview revealed that many white teachers from other regions dont fit in and cant adapt to a black majority school. I feel as if the students dont feel accepted if the teacher is trying to pick them apart and correct them each time they make small mistakes. I was supprised to see that over fifty percent of the students are getting suspended. If kids arent in school because they are suspended all the time, it only makes sense that kids will start dropping out because they won't be at the same educational level. Just like we discussed in class on Wednesday, when majority or close to half of the kids dropout of school it becomes contagious and might seem normal.
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I had a firsthand experience of how similar issues that are taking place in New Orleans. I dropped out of high school freshman year and my reasons were as follows. Teachers literally pushed me out. They didn’t care for my education and only there for the paycheck. When asking questions, they would say read what the packet says! That doesn’t get me to love school if all I hit was walls of confusion with the leader not leading. Second of all I got written up for the clothes I wore. Black and a prime color was looked as gangbanging and so I started racking up detentions. I was a good kid, never talked back, helped my classmates and respected authority. What is occurring in New Orleans is the very thing that "pushed" me out. Just because someone claps their lips or roll their eyes doesn’t mean you should slap them with a suspension. If you think that will make them respect the system, you're wrong. It will make them hate and be rebellious against the system if anything. Too many bright minds are being ruined because of instead of correcting the issue, they make into a bigger one. I always believed their was a racial issue with this as teachers in my old school did fear the minorities. They were lenient on the small population of white kids that attended my old high school. But would hit latinos, and blacks with severe punishments. Which makes it feel for like a jail rather than a sanctuary of learning. With New Orleans the main factor teachers think about is how Hurricane Katrina affected the lives of the children who have been traumatized by the hurricane. Picking out favorites will not help with self esteem nor the learning process of our youth. Everyone deserves equal attention!
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It seems that schools these days have really been putting on more and more rules and it seems they have really lost perspective of what it is they are actually doing. School is a place of education, a place where children go to learn and gather information to use for the rest of their lives. Of course kids are going to mess around and get into trouble but it should not be the reason that kids are being pushed out of school. I mean if kids are fighting or just getting really out of hand then yes, but stuff like dress code, cursing, being tardy is quite ridiculous. How can a child learn when they have so much hanging over their head already as it is. They are under stress from the school work alone but to be kicked pt of school for having a hole in your jeans, or saying a cuss word when they are mad, or being late this does not teach children discipline this shows them that they are unwanted. If you want to show them how to have real discipline and respect maybe give them detention or a task that needs to be completed this way the kid can still go to school but be disciplined at the same time. Also with racism in the mix that just adds to the tension within schools kids should not have to deal with that at any point of their lives and its sad its happening. They need to reform the schools in that area because without that I feel that no learning will honestly take place until it is.
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