I liked his metaphor for how fighting is accepted via this theory of social reaction. If two kids were to get into a fight during class, more than likely one of them would be suspended or expelled. Now if we take this example onto the football field, more than likely none of the kids would get in trouble. They may be made to run after practice, or miss a game. People reactions are very subjective to what environment the "action" happens in. This may cause a student to be labeled a certain way, thus effecting him for either a short or long time. If you saw the kids fighting in the classroom, one might say that they are both out of control delinquents. If you observe the two kids fighting on the football field, one might say it is acceptable due to the conditions of play. Overall, he brings up very solid points for these theories in this video. BenRoethlisberger123
We both definitely see it the same way. I also enjoyed how he explained social reaction and how it correlated with the fighting in the classroom and football game. It is very mind boggling to see that it happens so often that if someone fights in a classroom, they have to speak to a police officer but it is accepted by society in a football game because of circumstances of the mild violence it does bring. Funny how something that is frowned upon at one location is acceptable in way (I know you face discipline issues with missing a game, running, etc.) with not having to answer to a police officer. Labeling theory can create a self concept of oneself when stigmatized a deviant. You then begin to think "deviant" and live life as a "deviant". Weird and fascinating how it all blends together. rugby123
I would have to say that I think it is more justified to fight in a football game then a classroom. Not saying that it is allowed. But during a football game people are smacking each other around so it might make you go against instincts. During a classroom there should be no tension there should only be learning. Cowboy123
I also enjoyed the comparison, because it is so true. Children who play sports get special attention. And the students that do not play sports to not. Society overreacts on most things. And it is getting a little out of hand. Just like when little billy gets picked up by the police. No one else knows thaw hat is going on with billy. His mother or father could be in the hospital, and the police officer as the only one available to get him. FBI123
I like how you touched on the metaphor the professor mentions. It really is a big problem when we take things less serious depending on the situation it arises on. More specifically the football and classroom fight metaphor. As I stated in my response I believe there is a double standard with these types of situations. -Pack123
His examples of him and a student fighting in comparison to two football players fighting are great examples. More than likely the two kids who were on the field fighting are going to have to run after practice and maybe miss a game but the teacher and the student fighting that's obviously going to draw more attention and police and other legal actions probably will be taken due to the fact that that was a teacher instead of two students. wreked123
Very interesting start as it makes you think a little bit on how hypocritical things might happen. But the comparison is a good one although I do see the difference in each other. Not claiming that one gives you a right to fight but if we look in a psychological matter then we can see that in a classroom would be used for a learning sanctuary with no physical touch. Football you may get hit and get aggravated which might push you at an edge more than a classroom does. Football you would sit the bench, run conditioning, and sit a game out. But classroom you would have to answer to a police official. But definitely a good comparison as they don’t want the labeling theory affecting the child at a young age so the self-actualization and self-concept doesn’t develop a bad person. The community would respond in a way that would affect him in the secondary. Being stigmatized as a deviant could take a big effect on you as they are isolated in a community Rugby123
I totally agree with you here. I like how you said it is hypocritical because that is a great way to explain this society. People need to understand the child's situation before taking any "life-harming" action. We need to care and see both sides of the story, not just what we see blatantly happening on the outside. BenRoethlisberger123
A child in a classroom is there to learn and keep their hands to themselves. In football its like the child is giving permission to fight because its a sport and they have the right to be mad or aggressive on the football field. This is wrong because these problems are often taking from the field to the classroom or playground and even the streets. First thing a child will say is he did this or that on the field and I didn't get to get him back so Im doing it now. That is because the community makes it ok to fight and get aggressive during athletic events. They say its social ok or normal when in fact its deviant.MotherOf4123
This is a good way of how the community views you can shape how you turn out and the way you see yourself. The fact that the police showed up to Jacks house should not be the reason he is labeled. The neighbors could of lease tried to help the child out, if they were paying attention they would of known that they didn't see his mother around. Knowing how the community think they probably thought that his mom abandon him or something. This example is one to the reasons i dislike the labeling theory and all that it stands for. The way the criminal justice system let the community determine a person especially a child is viewed. Children are gentle creators and have to be handled with care.MotherOf4123
Social reaction theory is how society reacts to it. In the video, the example is used about the difference in fighting in a classroom and at a sporting event and how they both mean the same thing but get different reactions. Another thing that stood out to me was how he was talking about little Johnny and not getting invited to a party. The sad part is that people from society saw the kid as maybe not worthy of the party because of what they think he did or didn’t do which is not fair for the child. Something like that for him to hear while everyone is talking about him because he was a bad kid will go on to make him accept that he really is a bad child. CSI 123
I do think society has a way of overreacting to small crimes such as fighting. Especially in a way where they compared a fight in a classroom to a fight in a football game. However, I think a fight in a football game would be more of an accepting because it is a physically demanding sport where things get heated. But I understand sometimes the heat of the moment can click in a classroom too. I just don't think these crimes define who a person really is. I'm sure the majority of us have gotten into a fight or a crime somewhere in that ball park. Cowboy123
I believe that society over reacts to most things. I loved the comparison between the fighting is the classroom and the fight on the football field. Because it is so true. Especially in high school. If a football player is to get in a fight on a football field, they will just have to run extra laps or have to sit out for a game or too. But if there was a fight on the classroom, between too kids that don't play sports, they will get in trouble and get fined, or even expelled. High schools have a tendency to to give people that play sports special attention, and the kids that donor play sports are the kids that get in a lot more trouble. Society is really messed up. Children do not be be excluded from society. FBI123
I will say that it even gets worse with that situation because at high school sporting events parents, the crowd, other players and coaches even get very emotionally involved in games and when players get into fights it is almost encouraged at that time and place if a player fights in a football game he will most likely get praise for it from peers and others for fighting for the love of the team. But on the opposite side of the table if kids were rooting and praising kids for getting into fights in class they would get in a lot of trouble. This just goes to show one of the many double standards that run throughout our society. If you look at both of the situations the kid in the football game will be labeled a "hero" for fighting for his team but the kid in class will get labeled as a delinquent. Therefore the kid in class will probably be more likely to get into more trouble because he thinks he should because of labeling theory. 36chambers123
It really is true on the fighting metaphor that the professor mentions. He goes on to explain the comparison of fighting on a football field and fighting in the classroom. It really does make sense. I feel that, especially in high school and middle schools, there is a little bias upon actions that certain individuals do. If two students were to fight there would be more severe consequences than if two football players were to fight at practice. Mostly due to the physicality of football. I believe there is a double standard in society on this issue as well. -Pack123
This professor does a great job of explaining social reaction theory. The examples he gave actually really made me understand what they mean when they say social reaction and how they is a primary and a secondary version to this theory. Its sad to here that his example of Johnny getting helped by a police officer turned into the community thinking he is a criminal. Maybe that could make police not want to actually get out of their car and talk to a group of kids to see how they are doing. Because of the other group of juveniles or maybe some adults walk by and see a kid or kids getting talked to just about how they are doing and rumors start to fly that they did something wrong. wreked32
This video was very insightful and very well explains how both theories work. I liked his example of the kid being picked up by the cop car. It is very ignorant to assume somebody is in trouble no matter how old they are just because you see them getting in a cop car or being pulled over and searched. It really gives people a very bad impression on you or whoever is being pulled over. The messed up thing about the who situation is that secondary labeling is practically impossible to remove because its based on the community. So unless you live in a small village with you and only your family I could not see secondary labeling ever going away. It does really impact the community as a whole because what if a teenager applies for a job and on the way to the job interview the teen gets pulled over and the cop asks to search the teens car. As they are taking things out of his car the person giving the job interview to him drives by and spots the teen and sees the cops searching his car. Do you think when the teen gets to the job interview he would be more or less likely to get the job based on what the interviewer has seen? I think it would tremendously affect the outcome on whether or not the teen would get the job. Labeling theory really shows itself throughout society. 36chambers123
I liked his metaphor for how fighting is accepted via this theory of social reaction. If two kids were to get into a fight during class, more than likely one of them would be suspended or expelled. Now if we take this example onto the football field, more than likely none of the kids would get in trouble. They may be made to run after practice, or miss a game. People reactions are very subjective to what environment the "action" happens in. This may cause a student to be labeled a certain way, thus effecting him for either a short or long time. If you saw the kids fighting in the classroom, one might say that they are both out of control delinquents. If you observe the two kids fighting on the football field, one might say it is acceptable due to the conditions of play. Overall, he brings up very solid points for these theories in this video. BenRoethlisberger123
ReplyDeleteWe both definitely see it the same way. I also enjoyed how he explained social reaction and how it correlated with the fighting in the classroom and football game. It is very mind boggling to see that it happens so often that if someone fights in a classroom, they have to speak to a police officer but it is accepted by society in a football game because of circumstances of the mild violence it does bring. Funny how something that is frowned upon at one location is acceptable in way (I know you face discipline issues with missing a game, running, etc.) with not having to answer to a police officer. Labeling theory can create a self concept of oneself when stigmatized a deviant. You then begin to think "deviant" and live life as a "deviant". Weird and fascinating how it all blends together.
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I would have to say that I think it is more justified to fight in a football game then a classroom. Not saying that it is allowed. But during a football game people are smacking each other around so it might make you go against instincts. During a classroom there should be no tension there should only be learning. Cowboy123
DeleteI also enjoyed the comparison, because it is so true. Children who play sports get special attention. And the students that do not play sports to not. Society overreacts on most things. And it is getting a little out of hand. Just like when little billy gets picked up by the police. No one else knows thaw hat is going on with billy. His mother or father could be in the hospital, and the police officer as the only one available to get him. FBI123
DeleteI like how you touched on the metaphor the professor mentions. It really is a big problem when we take things less serious depending on the situation it arises on. More specifically the football and classroom fight metaphor. As I stated in my response I believe there is a double standard with these types of situations. -Pack123
DeleteHis examples of him and a student fighting in comparison to two football players fighting are great examples. More than likely the two kids who were on the field fighting are going to have to run after practice and maybe miss a game but the teacher and the student fighting that's obviously going to draw more attention and police and other legal actions probably will be taken due to the fact that that was a teacher instead of two students.
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Very interesting start as it makes you think a little bit on how hypocritical things might happen. But the comparison is a good one although I do see the difference in each other. Not claiming that one gives you a right to fight but if we look in a psychological matter then we can see that in a classroom would be used for a learning sanctuary with no physical touch. Football you may get hit and get aggravated which might push you at an edge more than a classroom does. Football you would sit the bench, run conditioning, and sit a game out. But classroom you would have to answer to a police official. But definitely a good comparison as they don’t want the labeling theory affecting the child at a young age so the self-actualization and self-concept doesn’t develop a bad person. The community would respond in a way that would affect him in the secondary. Being stigmatized as a deviant could take a big effect on you as they are isolated in a community
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I totally agree with you here. I like how you said it is hypocritical because that is a great way to explain this society. People need to understand the child's situation before taking any "life-harming" action. We need to care and see both sides of the story, not just what we see blatantly happening on the outside. BenRoethlisberger123
DeleteA child in a classroom is there to learn and keep their hands to themselves. In football its like the child is giving permission to fight because its a sport and they have the right to be mad or aggressive on the football field. This is wrong because these problems are often taking from the field to the classroom or playground and even the streets. First thing a child will say is he did this or that on the field and I didn't get to get him back so Im doing it now. That is because the community makes it ok to fight and get aggressive during athletic events. They say its social ok or normal when in fact its deviant.MotherOf4123
DeleteThis is a good way of how the community views you can shape how you turn out and the way you see yourself. The fact that the police showed up to Jacks house should not be the reason he is labeled. The neighbors could of lease tried to help the child out, if they were paying attention they would of known that they didn't see his mother around. Knowing how the community think they probably thought that his mom abandon him or something. This example is one to the reasons i dislike the labeling theory and all that it stands for. The way the criminal justice system let the community determine a person especially a child is viewed. Children are gentle creators and have to be handled with care.MotherOf4123
ReplyDeleteSocial reaction theory is how society reacts to it. In the video, the example is used about the difference in fighting in a classroom and at a sporting event and how they both mean the same thing but get different reactions. Another thing that stood out to me was how he was talking about little Johnny and not getting invited to a party. The sad part is that people from society saw the kid as maybe not worthy of the party because of what they think he did or didn’t do which is not fair for the child. Something like that for him to hear while everyone is talking about him because he was a bad kid will go on to make him accept that he really is a bad child. CSI 123
ReplyDeleteI do think society has a way of overreacting to small crimes such as fighting. Especially in a way where they compared a fight in a classroom to a fight in a football game. However, I think a fight in a football game would be more of an accepting because it is a physically demanding sport where things get heated. But I understand sometimes the heat of the moment can click in a classroom too. I just don't think these crimes define who a person really is. I'm sure the majority of us have gotten into a fight or a crime somewhere in that ball park. Cowboy123
ReplyDeleteI believe that society over reacts to most things. I loved the comparison between the fighting is the classroom and the fight on the football field. Because it is so true. Especially in high school. If a football player is to get in a fight on a football field, they will just have to run extra laps or have to sit out for a game or too. But if there was a fight on the classroom, between too kids that don't play sports, they will get in trouble and get fined, or even expelled. High schools have a tendency to to give people that play sports special attention, and the kids that donor play sports are the kids that get in a lot more trouble. Society is really messed up. Children do not be be excluded from society.
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I will say that it even gets worse with that situation because at high school sporting events parents, the crowd, other players and coaches even get very emotionally involved in games and when players get into fights it is almost encouraged at that time and place if a player fights in a football game he will most likely get praise for it from peers and others for fighting for the love of the team. But on the opposite side of the table if kids were rooting and praising kids for getting into fights in class they would get in a lot of trouble. This just goes to show one of the many double standards that run throughout our society. If you look at both of the situations the kid in the football game will be labeled a "hero" for fighting for his team but the kid in class will get labeled as a delinquent. Therefore the kid in class will probably be more likely to get into more trouble because he thinks he should because of labeling theory.
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It really is true on the fighting metaphor that the professor mentions. He goes on to explain the comparison of fighting on a football field and fighting in the classroom. It really does make sense. I feel that, especially in high school and middle schools, there is a little bias upon actions that certain individuals do. If two students were to fight there would be more severe consequences than if two football players were to fight at practice. Mostly due to the physicality of football. I believe there is a double standard in society on this issue as well. -Pack123
ReplyDeleteThis professor does a great job of explaining social reaction theory. The examples he gave actually really made me understand what they mean when they say social reaction and how they is a primary and a secondary version to this theory. Its sad to here that his example of Johnny getting helped by a police officer turned into the community thinking he is a criminal. Maybe that could make police not want to actually get out of their car and talk to a group of kids to see how they are doing. Because of the other group of juveniles or maybe some adults walk by and see a kid or kids getting talked to just about how they are doing and rumors start to fly that they did something wrong.
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DeleteThis video was very insightful and very well explains how both theories work. I liked his example of the kid being picked up by the cop car. It is very ignorant to assume somebody is in trouble no matter how old they are just because you see them getting in a cop car or being pulled over and searched. It really gives people a very bad impression on you or whoever is being pulled over. The messed up thing about the who situation is that secondary labeling is practically impossible to remove because its based on the community. So unless you live in a small village with you and only your family I could not see secondary labeling ever going away. It does really impact the community as a whole because what if a teenager applies for a job and on the way to the job interview the teen gets pulled over and the cop asks to search the teens car. As they are taking things out of his car the person giving the job interview to him drives by and spots the teen and sees the cops searching his car. Do you think when the teen gets to the job interview he would be more or less likely to get the job based on what the interviewer has seen? I think it would tremendously affect the outcome on whether or not the teen would get the job. Labeling theory really shows itself throughout society.
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