Social Control. To sir, with love, showed many examples of social control theory. Delinquents show no respect for authority. As the only type of discipline they have ever received was followed with a blow to the face. Majority do not have a connection with a parent/ guardian so the only authority figure they have are the teachers that continuously quit the job as they cannot handle nor have the patience to teach them. Sir decided to approach them in a different matter which began showing when he started teaching them life skills and lessons. They all grew up with the stigma of being “juvenile delinquents”. They created a self-concept of themselves as bad kids so they acted as such. But once sir put into their heads that they are adults and responsible for ones actions, they started to change drastically. Most of the females in the class gained a major respect for Mr.Thackeray, and Pam had grown an attachment with him, most likely he was the only male in her life to give her advice. With the young men he helped teach them to become more clean, and how to cook, and respect women. At first they hated that concept because of there commitment they had with the traditional rules of not caring about anything, but later own figured out Mr. Thackeray was just bettering there lives.
I agree with you that social control played a major part in these children's lives. Without the help of Sir these kids could have kept spinning out of control until they were dead or in prison but because of Sir they became quite the opposite. It just goes to show that even if your living arrangements are bad and that your life does not seem to have a lot of worth that you can keep pushing to become a totally amazing person. All youth need is one good role model to change their life completely. They went from being seen as delinquents to find young gentlemen and ladies. Once this transformation takes place it takes the labeling theory behind the whole movie go from a negative feel to a positive feel which benefits everyone within the movie.
Very well put! I agree with what you have to say here. One Mr. Thackeray began to show the kids that they were cared for, their whole worlds changed. He started giving them a reason to become adults, and showed them that not all people wanted to see them fail. Caring is the huge concept here, and this movie illustrated it beautifully! BenRoethlisberger123 & Craft1232
Labeling theory explains these kids lives well. To start, they are given the label "worthless" or "uneducated" by society to the point where they start to believe in it. They begin to act as if they will become nothing, so they just mess around in class and do not pay attention. Once the new teacher comes in to their classroom, he begins to give them positive labels, such as "loved", "cared for", "worthy", and letting them know they can achieve anything they want. This new teacher also begins to treat them as adults in the making, rather than children/teenagers. Their behaviors start to change as they soak in these new labels, creating new attributes for them. So by showing someone that they can achieve something helps motivate them to become the best person they can be.
I think you hit the nail on the head with this explanation. These children were told by all their teachers they were worthless, week, or useless to society. For example in the movie the coach refused to call the children men, but referred to them as "boys" this upset many of them because they viewed themselves as men, because that's what sir labelled them as. Sir referred to the girls as young ladies or miss, which gave them a positive label to live by. Their self-respect skyrocketed and they became model citizens compared to what they once were. It is all about being positive and motivated. Great response. Silverado123 Minion123
My perception on the labeling theory in the movie was very similar to yours. If a student is continually called "worthless" or "no good" then they will claim that name as "who they are". If they are labeled positively then they will stick to those labels for the better. Additionally, if one student begins to notice the label change then the class, as a whole, will begin to notice as well. -Wreked123 -Pack123
The Strain theory is very previlant throughout the movie. All the kids in the class were in a low class structure and after school were scraping to get by. Peggy even says the boys throw rocks and break windows along with other deviant acts. It's their social environment that pushes them to commit these crimes. In addition to this, a big portion of the movie was how the students grow into being more like adults and less juvenile. Everything from the way they dress to being clean and how they present themselves displays their journey into adulthood. It could be considered more of a social control factor because they needed someone to care about them and tell them what's right from wrong. In essence, the kids really began to feel cared for. Before Mr. Thackery stepped into their lives, the kids really didn't feel as though anyone cared about them or their well being. In the scene between Pamela and Mr. Thackery, Pamela expresses that she feels her mother doesn't care about her. She stated that she feels like she is "in the way" of her mother's desires. She also blames this for her late nights out. Many of the students felt this way. They felt as though they didn't have anyone that genuinely cared about them, but rather wished they would all just hurry up and vanish. This is where the labeling theory is displayed most in the movie. Not only are the children getting this at home, but they get it at school also. All throughout the movie, the teachers are saying that the children are terrible. They call them delinquents and constantly put them down. Eventually the kids started living up to this negative stigma. On the flip side, the kids also experienced the positive side of the labeling theory. Once Mr. Thackery treated them as adults, they began to act as such. This film really was a perfect example of coming of age. Through out the movie you witness the growth and transition of the children.
Very well put. In relation to the Strain theory the kids wanted to be like sir but they didn’t know how. Before he came into their life they were very destructive and moody. He became the role model in their lives, a sort of parent, which the kids have needed in their lives from the beginning. With the kids not feeling like they have anyone who cares about them, I believe that’s why their moods changed and they had respect for Sir. However it was prominent that they were slow to change their moods about how they feel about everyone else. For the first time they had a real connection with an adult figure. ROTC123, Ludwig123
This movie shows all three of the theories that we have gone over in class. It gives many examples of strain theory as the children do not really have any type of guidance or any authority figure in their lives to really help guide them in the right direction. It seemed as if they were basically on their own for the most part and when a kid has to teach him or herself how to grow up that can be very hard on a youth development. They show examples of labeling theory in the sense that even though all of the kids started to love Sir over the course of the movie they were still embarrassed until the end of the movie to go anywhere with him or be seen with him just because he was black. The children did not want to be given a label based on being seen with a black man even though they saw no problem with it. Having that label placed upon them could have potentially made other people make fun of that child causing problems to the developmental stages for him or her. It also shows an example of labeling theory in that all of the children were basically deemed worthless or unneeded making them misbehave in order to get attention from their peers.
I feel like in the scene in the movie where the biracial kid has someone in the family dies shows labeling theory very well. Labeling theory is how the self identifies and behaviors of individuals may be determined or influenced by the terms used to describe or classify them. During this scene all the kids were worried about what people would say about them if they were seen entering a colored persons house. The exact words they used were gossip. But towards the end of the seen a Pam stepped up and said that she would personality take the flowers to seals home. Showing she didn’t care how she was going to be labeled or what people in the community said about her. When pam ends up taking the flowers to seals house she was not alone. The rest of the class mates came with her showing not only she didn’t care about the label but also the entire class wore that label with her. Which shows people if you internalize a label that is positive that then gives you the confidence to brush off the negative ones. That is one of the keys of labeling theory that if people keep telling you something you will end believing it. And that is exactly what Mark did for the kid in this film. Jfl and lilap123
Social control theory played a prominent role throughout the movie. The children were uncontrollable and were causing mayhem throughout their classes and elsewhere. The children were delinquent and partook in delinquent acts such as chronic absences, breaking windows and other more mischievous acts. The children did not respond well to authority figures which ended up causing their previous teacher to quit his or her job. They lacked any self-control and took advantage of their situation. The children had no responsibilities and disrespected their teachers, parents, and the authorities which ended up causing them to be considered delinquent. Finally the right man came around for these children and taught them what they've lacked all their lives. Sir taught them how to obey rules, conform with society, and become more mature. The social control theory, according to the oxford bibliography, explains that social control theory explains why people would obey society's beliefs and rules. Sir showed them respect and that he believed in them. This motivated them into believing in themselves, and gave them someone to look up to. The theory says that free-will and choices are a cause for crime. Social control theory would explain why these children are delinquent according to their choices. They chose to do delinquent acts, because of lack in social relationships and constraints from their community's and the authorities in their life. Another part of the theory would explain why later in the movie the children drifted away from Sir and followed Denim. The students had a negative relationship with Denim and viewed him as a strong leader, therefor followed him until he was forgiven by Sir after their boxing match. At this point all the children see the relationship that Denim has with Sir and decide that they should act more mature and realized that he was good for them, and right about their experiences and how they should deal with their lives. Finally the students felt a sense of community and chose to obey the rules and beliefs of society over rebellion and delinquency. Silverado123 and Minion123
This is very true, the children didn't at first respect any authority from any adults. They pushed away every teacher from the past until Sir came, and he taught them respect. Social control explains pretty much the whole movie because of all the choices they made, must from not having an adult figure in there lives. Sir taught them some values and how to become a standard adult. Yes the boxing match was a big turn around for denim because he finally realized he was a great leader, and he was only trying to make him stronger.
I The Labeling theory and Social Control theory are prominent throughout the entire movie. However these two can work together as well. As seen in the movie, the kids at first have no respect for anyone and each other. The boys vandalize buildings at night and the girls act, as said in the movie, “slutty”. However when Mr. Thackery tells them that they are no longer kids they are young adults about to head off into the world, their entire mood changes. They start dressing nice, acting more their age, and become more willing to learn the lessons Sir is trying to teach them. I feel sir was using both theories here to shape the kids into young adults. Another form of the Social Control theory would be when the two leaders of the kids, Denim and Pam, decide to disrespect/respect Sir. Denim didn’t respect sir at first whish caused most of the boys to act out and follow Denim, however when he got his butt whooped by Sir, his mood changed towards him and started following his rules and dressed nicer. The other boys followed. With Pam she respected sir at first which made the girls respect him as well, but when Sir didn’t take her side with her mother she started being around Denim again and then for a while it seemed no one had respect for Sir. The children seemed to have followed the leaders and that was the form of Social Control. ROTC123 and Ludwig123
The scene in the movie where Pamela's mother addresses Mr.Thackeray about Pam's home behavior is an excellent example of Social Control theory in use. The mother mentions that herself and her husband had recently divorced and how that had a negative impact on Pam. The mother goes on to explaining the troublesome behavior displayed at home by Pam: staying out late, not saying where she is, and general defiance. With the fact that her father left shortly after her parent's divorce Pam was feeling a lack of attachment to both her mother and father which was probably what pushed her to deviance. Due to the fact that Pam Lost that attachment with her mother, in turn she lost her commitment to following the rules set forth by her mother. Pam's mom goes as far as to even ask Mr.Thackeray for help to get her behavior under control. With her father not involved in her life she did not get the parental figure she needed, which can result in more at-risk. The absence of social bonds, Travis Hirschi the developer of the social control theory, said can weaken the chance of becoming delinquent are all prevalent throughout this film. There is no attachment between the students and their community, so they are not committed to following the rules or being involved in that community, causing them to make up their own beliefs to satisfy their current situation. Love123 and Scooby123
At the beginning of this film we see a multitude of students from a variety of backgrounds. However, something that affected all of the students was social disorganization. This is made evident in the beginning of the movie where Sir encounters his class for the first time. The reason we believe that social disorganization plays a role is because within this first scene we notice that the students are very disruptive and lack a respect for authority. From the students actions we surmise that these students lack social skills and have encountered multiple family problems. Throughout the rest of the movie we notice that the students undergo an enculturing when Sir adjusts his teaching to incorporating life skills as opposed his previous method, book knowledge. It is through this enculturing process that we see the students respond to positive labeling,which in return allows them to ultimately develop an organized structure, respect for authority and for others, and practical life skills. This film is a great example of how teachers can relate to troubled students. In class we talk about how a high percentage of the behavior starts in schools and how teachers can influence their students. Sir shows us that if a teacher can set a positive example then teachers general have the power to make a student succeed. Teaching is not always just about reading from a book, sometimes it is just getting to know and understanding a student’s needs in order to help them succeed.Duck123 Cowboy123
Social Control theory is very prominent throughout the movie. We see this in many different ways. One example of this is when all the students are "acting up" when Mr. Thackery first gets his teaching job. It seems that all of the students portrayed disobedience due to their environment. This causes mirror effect for the kids to bounce and feed ideas to each other that keeps the negative behavior going. Thackery was also born in British Guiana, where lifestyles are much different than the neighborhood he was teaching in. This caused a culture shock for Thackery while in his new environment. Another example of social control theory is when the students began behaving like adults due to Thackery treating them like adults. Like the first example, this would create a mirror effect where the students would bounce the behaviors off of each other that Thackery was teaching. This new behavior was a new social norm for the students that quickly spread. -Wreked123 -Pack123
Social Control. To sir, with love, showed many examples of social control theory. Delinquents show no respect for authority. As the only type of discipline they have ever received was followed with a blow to the face. Majority do not have a connection with a parent/ guardian so the only authority figure they have are the teachers that continuously quit the job as they cannot handle nor have the patience to teach them. Sir decided to approach them in a different matter which began showing when he started teaching them life skills and lessons. They all grew up with the stigma of being “juvenile delinquents”. They created a self-concept of themselves as bad kids so they acted as such. But once sir put into their heads that they are adults and responsible for ones actions, they started to change drastically. Most of the females in the class gained a major respect for Mr.Thackeray, and Pam had grown an attachment with him, most likely he was the only male in her life to give her advice. With the young men he helped teach them to become more clean, and how to cook, and respect women. At first they hated that concept because of there commitment they had with the traditional rules of not caring about anything, but later own figured out Mr. Thackeray was just bettering there lives.
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I agree with you that social control played a major part in these children's lives. Without the help of Sir these kids could have kept spinning out of control until they were dead or in prison but because of Sir they became quite the opposite. It just goes to show that even if your living arrangements are bad and that your life does not seem to have a lot of worth that you can keep pushing to become a totally amazing person. All youth need is one good role model to change their life completely. They went from being seen as delinquents to find young gentlemen and ladies. Once this transformation takes place it takes the labeling theory behind the whole movie go from a negative feel to a positive feel which benefits everyone within the movie.
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Very well put! I agree with what you have to say here. One Mr. Thackeray began to show the kids that they were cared for, their whole worlds changed. He started giving them a reason to become adults, and showed them that not all people wanted to see them fail. Caring is the huge concept here, and this movie illustrated it beautifully!
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Labeling theory explains these kids lives well. To start, they are given the label "worthless" or "uneducated" by society to the point where they start to believe in it. They begin to act as if they will become nothing, so they just mess around in class and do not pay attention. Once the new teacher comes in to their classroom, he begins to give them positive labels, such as "loved", "cared for", "worthy", and letting them know they can achieve anything they want. This new teacher also begins to treat them as adults in the making, rather than children/teenagers. Their behaviors start to change as they soak in these new labels, creating new attributes for them. So by showing someone that they can achieve something helps motivate them to become the best person they can be.
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I think you hit the nail on the head with this explanation. These children were told by all their teachers they were worthless, week, or useless to society. For example in the movie the coach refused to call the children men, but referred to them as "boys" this upset many of them because they viewed themselves as men, because that's what sir labelled them as. Sir referred to the girls as young ladies or miss, which gave them a positive label to live by. Their self-respect skyrocketed and they became model citizens compared to what they once were. It is all about being positive and motivated. Great response.
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My perception on the labeling theory in the movie was very similar to yours. If a student is continually called "worthless" or "no good" then they will claim that name as "who they are". If they are labeled positively then they will stick to those labels for the better. Additionally, if one student begins to notice the label change then the class, as a whole, will begin to notice as well. -Wreked123 -Pack123
DeleteThe Strain theory is very previlant throughout the movie. All the kids in the class were in a low class structure and after school were scraping to get by. Peggy even says the boys throw rocks and break windows along with other deviant acts. It's their social environment that pushes them to commit these crimes. In addition to this, a big portion of the movie was how the students grow into being more like adults and less juvenile. Everything from the way they dress to being clean and how they present themselves displays their journey into adulthood. It could be considered more of a social control factor because they needed someone to care about them and tell them what's right from wrong. In essence, the kids really began to feel cared for. Before Mr. Thackery stepped into their lives, the kids really didn't feel as though anyone cared about them or their well being. In the scene between Pamela and Mr. Thackery, Pamela expresses that she feels her mother doesn't care about her. She stated that she feels like she is "in the way" of her mother's desires. She also blames this for her late nights out. Many of the students felt this way. They felt as though they didn't have anyone that genuinely cared about them, but rather wished they would all just hurry up and vanish. This is where the labeling theory is displayed most in the movie. Not only are the children getting this at home, but they get it at school also. All throughout the movie, the teachers are saying that the children are terrible. They call them delinquents and constantly put them down. Eventually the kids started living up to this negative stigma. On the flip side, the kids also experienced the positive side of the labeling theory. Once Mr. Thackery treated them as adults, they began to act as such. This film really was a perfect example of coming of age. Through out the movie you witness the growth and transition of the children.
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Very well put. In relation to the Strain theory the kids wanted to be like sir but they didn’t know how. Before he came into their life they were very destructive and moody. He became the role model in their lives, a sort of parent, which the kids have needed in their lives from the beginning. With the kids not feeling like they have anyone who cares about them, I believe that’s why their moods changed and they had respect for Sir. However it was prominent that they were slow to change their moods about how they feel about everyone else. For the first time they had a real connection with an adult figure.
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This movie shows all three of the theories that we have gone over in class. It gives many examples of strain theory as the children do not really have any type of guidance or any authority figure in their lives to really help guide them in the right direction. It seemed as if they were basically on their own for the most part and when a kid has to teach him or herself how to grow up that can be very hard on a youth development. They show examples of labeling theory in the sense that even though all of the kids started to love Sir over the course of the movie they were still embarrassed until the end of the movie to go anywhere with him or be seen with him just because he was black. The children did not want to be given a label based on being seen with a black man even though they saw no problem with it. Having that label placed upon them could have potentially made other people make fun of that child causing problems to the developmental stages for him or her. It also shows an example of labeling theory in that all of the children were basically deemed worthless or unneeded making them misbehave in order to get attention from their peers.
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I feel like in the scene in the movie where the biracial kid has someone in the family dies shows labeling theory very well. Labeling theory is how the self identifies and behaviors of individuals may be determined or influenced by the terms used to describe or classify them. During this scene all the kids were worried about what people would say about them if they were seen entering a colored persons house. The exact words they used were gossip. But towards the end of the seen a Pam stepped up and said that she would personality take the flowers to seals home. Showing she didn’t care how she was going to be labeled or what people in the community said about her. When pam ends up taking the flowers to seals house she was not alone. The rest of the class mates came with her showing not only she didn’t care about the label but also the entire class wore that label with her. Which shows people if you internalize a label that is positive that then gives you the confidence to brush off the negative ones. That is one of the keys of labeling theory that if people keep telling you something you will end believing it. And that is exactly what Mark did for the kid in this film.
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Social control theory played a prominent role throughout the movie. The children were uncontrollable and were causing mayhem throughout their classes and elsewhere. The children were delinquent and partook in delinquent acts such as chronic absences, breaking windows and other more mischievous acts. The children did not respond well to authority figures which ended up causing their previous teacher to quit his or her job. They lacked any self-control and took advantage of their situation. The children had no responsibilities and disrespected their teachers, parents, and the authorities which ended up causing them to be considered delinquent. Finally the right man came around for these children and taught them what they've lacked all their lives. Sir taught them how to obey rules, conform with society, and become more mature. The social control theory, according to the oxford bibliography, explains that social control theory explains why people would obey society's beliefs and rules. Sir showed them respect and that he believed in them. This motivated them into believing in themselves, and gave them someone to look up to. The theory says that free-will and choices are a cause for crime. Social control theory would explain why these children are delinquent according to their choices. They chose to do delinquent acts, because of lack in social relationships and constraints from their community's and the authorities in their life. Another part of the theory would explain why later in the movie the children drifted away from Sir and followed Denim. The students had a negative relationship with Denim and viewed him as a strong leader, therefor followed him until he was forgiven by Sir after their boxing match. At this point all the children see the relationship that Denim has with Sir and decide that they should act more mature and realized that he was good for them, and right about their experiences and how they should deal with their lives. Finally the students felt a sense of community and chose to obey the rules and beliefs of society over rebellion and delinquency.
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This is very true, the children didn't at first respect any authority from any adults. They pushed away every teacher from the past until Sir came, and he taught them respect. Social control explains pretty much the whole movie because of all the choices they made, must from not having an adult figure in there lives. Sir taught them some values and how to become a standard adult. Yes the boxing match was a big turn around for denim because he finally realized he was a great leader, and he was only trying to make him stronger.
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I The Labeling theory and Social Control theory are prominent throughout the entire movie. However these two can work together as well. As seen in the movie, the kids at first have no respect for anyone and each other. The boys vandalize buildings at night and the girls act, as said in the movie, “slutty”. However when Mr. Thackery tells them that they are no longer kids they are young adults about to head off into the world, their entire mood changes. They start dressing nice, acting more their age, and become more willing to learn the lessons Sir is trying to teach them. I feel sir was using both theories here to shape the kids into young adults. Another form of the Social Control theory would be when the two leaders of the kids, Denim and Pam, decide to disrespect/respect Sir. Denim didn’t respect sir at first whish caused most of the boys to act out and follow Denim, however when he got his butt whooped by Sir, his mood changed towards him and started following his rules and dressed nicer. The other boys followed. With Pam she respected sir at first which made the girls respect him as well, but when Sir didn’t take her side with her mother she started being around Denim again and then for a while it seemed no one had respect for Sir. The children seemed to have followed the leaders and that was the form of Social Control.
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The scene in the movie where Pamela's mother addresses Mr.Thackeray about Pam's home behavior is an excellent example of Social Control theory in use. The mother mentions that herself and her husband had recently divorced and how that had a negative impact on Pam. The mother goes on to explaining the troublesome behavior displayed at home by Pam: staying out late, not saying where she is, and general defiance. With the fact that her father left shortly after her parent's divorce Pam was feeling a lack of attachment to both her mother and father which was probably what pushed her to deviance. Due to the fact that Pam Lost that attachment with her mother, in turn she lost her commitment to following the rules set forth by her mother. Pam's mom goes as far as to even ask Mr.Thackeray for help to get her behavior under control. With her father not involved in her life she did not get the parental figure she needed, which can result in more at-risk. The absence of social bonds, Travis Hirschi the developer of the social control theory, said can weaken the chance of becoming delinquent are all prevalent throughout this film. There is no attachment between the students and their community, so they are not committed to following the rules or being involved in that community, causing them to make up their own beliefs to satisfy their current situation. Love123 and Scooby123
ReplyDeleteAt the beginning of this film we see a multitude of students from a variety of backgrounds. However, something that affected all of the students was social disorganization. This is made evident in the beginning of the movie where Sir encounters his class for the first time. The reason we believe that social disorganization plays a role is because within this first scene we notice that the students are very disruptive and lack a respect for authority. From the students actions we surmise that these students lack social skills and have encountered multiple family problems. Throughout the rest of the movie we notice that the students undergo an enculturing when Sir adjusts his teaching to incorporating life skills as opposed his previous method, book knowledge. It is through this enculturing process that we see the students respond to positive labeling,which in return allows them to ultimately develop an organized structure, respect for authority and for others, and practical life skills. This film is a great example of how teachers can relate to troubled students. In class we talk about how a high percentage of the behavior starts in schools and how teachers can influence their students. Sir shows us that if a teacher can set a positive example then teachers general have the power to make a student succeed. Teaching is not always just about reading from a book, sometimes it is just getting to know and understanding a student’s needs in order to help them succeed.Duck123 Cowboy123
ReplyDeleteSocial Control theory is very prominent throughout the movie. We see this in many different ways. One example of this is when all the students are "acting up" when Mr. Thackery first gets his teaching job. It seems that all of the students portrayed disobedience due to their environment. This causes mirror effect for the kids to bounce and feed ideas to each other that keeps the negative behavior going. Thackery was also born in British Guiana, where lifestyles are much different than the neighborhood he was teaching in. This caused a culture shock for Thackery while in his new environment. Another example of social control theory is when the students began behaving like adults due to Thackery treating them like adults. Like the first example, this would create a mirror effect where the students would bounce the behaviors off of each other that Thackery was teaching. This new behavior was a new social norm for the students that quickly spread. -Wreked123 -Pack123
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