I thought this video was a very interesting video to watch. It was talking about Hammurabi's code. I really liked how the guy quoted some of the actual rules from back when they were made. Compared to todays society, this society is so much different. I know that the time period is very different that we have evolved a lot since then but it is still very gruesome, as the Keith said in his video. Something I thought was interesting is how much similar we are today compared to back then. In one of the codes, it said something about an eye for eye basically and in todays world most people would agree with that. It isn't really biblical because in the bible it says if we are slapped on one side of the face just to turn the other cheek to the person who slapped us and let them slap the other one. Anyways I thought it was cool how we still have some of the same rules today that we had back in the day of Hammurabi. It just shows how some rules aren't broken. The good quote is "If its not broken, don't try to fix it." That is a very true quote and could relate to a lot of stuff in the criminal justice system. ICCRunner789
Its crazy to think that rules made 1000's of years ago would form a lot of our rules today. Hammurabi's view on crime is very interesting to me, The whole eye for an eye concept is genius. I don't think people would commit half the crimes they did if there were punishment's that actually detoured people from committing those crimes. The criminal justice and Hammurabi's laws have a lot of similarities and I believe if it wasn't for him the criminal justice system wouldn't be the same. KLICK789
An eye for an eye may have been genius back then, but in today's society it wouldn't work and doesn't work. The death penalty is basically an eye for an eye. A study was done a few years ago and it found in the states that still use the death penalty, the murder rate was higher than those who don't. Even the get tough on crime era in the 80s and 90s is to an extent a slight build off of hammurabis code. This basically said if you are caught with a little bit of drugs you will get some serious jail time. This was used to deter people away from doing drugs and other crime. I do agree however that the criminal justice system wouldn't be the same without hammurabis code.
It is wild to think that those laws as old as they are still having an impact in today's world. The eye for an eye concept is "genius", but it isn't something we are capable of achieving. We are always going to go a step further. I think had his laws not been created, I wouldn't go as far as to say that our criminal justice system would be completely different, because Mosses would still have brought the ten commandments. I think we could recreate what Hammurabi did, since he borrow other laws from other places. Palmdaddy789
It's interesting to think that parts Hammurabi's ideas on punishment for a crime are still used today. Hammurabi had some good ideas for the punishment for committing a crime. His punishments probably made people think twice before committing a crime back then. The eye for an eye is a very good idea. If it was still used today people would defiantly think twice before committing a crime. If they had to suffer what they did to someone else it could possibly stop them from committing whatever crime they are about to commit. Hammurabi's laws were some of the first punishment for committing a crime and were the basics for the criminal justice system today. dragons789
The video was interesting to hear how Hammurabi’s laws greatly influenced some of the laws that are in place today. Hearings that there were things about having being innocent until proven guilty, the use of evidence, witness statement at a trial, and things like that are amazing to think of how revolutionary that those ideas must have been at the time since we are still using them over two hundred years later. It was not surprising that you would be killed for lying in trial because during that time there was a lot of killings as it was. I am glad that not every law was passed down through time because if we went around killing innocent daughters of a convicted man who caused a miscarriage then the laws don’t feel like they are set up for justice; they are more set up for some cruel revenge which is unconstitutional by today’s standards. Birdman789
This video was really interesting its amazing how these laws that date back to 1754 B.C. had an effect on some of the laws that are placed today. Hammurabi's laws were very extreme but also very interesting. An eye for an eye is simply brilliance, and its amazing how people still use that code of ethic today. I honestly don't think people would commit crimes today if there were actually hardcore punishments to their crimes that they commit. Not all of Hammurabi's codes were right, like the killing of a mans daughter, glad that code didn't get passed down. -dicaprio789
There would definitely be less people crowding up the jails. The bad thing about Hammurabi's codes, despite being extreme and gruesome, is that there was a lot of favoritism involved. Favoritism for royals and citizens well off, and for men of course. -Leilani789
I found the video very helpful especially when he quoted some of the codes so we could really see some of the punishments people went through during those times. Some of the punishments were kind of insane especially the one where if the man kills a pregnant woman then his daughter shall be killed. Why not just kill the guy and not his innocent daughter. or what if the guy didn't have a daughter did they substitute his mother or sister? Then again we have some insane laws today, but its just like what the video said its not the laws that really mattered it was the principle that there were rules and laws that people followed and if they didn't they would be punished. Godzilla789
The video was very informative even though he made it kind of silly. In today's society we laugh and think all of the crimes and punishments written about in Hammurabis code are outrageous but without this set of laws we might not have modern day laws like we do today. Hammurabis code is extremely important and is the basis for laws today all over the world. Most of them were very insane like killing a mans daughter if he killed a pregnant woman. The question is, were these laws actually enforced 100% of the time or were they just used to deter people away from committing crimes?
It was nice to see somewhat of a comic and serious tone amongst the unified code of Hammurabi. To have laws currently that held sway in 1750BCE is something quite spectacular. These were taken from 16 separate city-states, so Hammurabi definitely wasn't only attempting to unify a code of law but also all of Babylon at the time. 282 laws don't seem like many considering Illinois alone passed over 200 at the turn of this year. Innocent until proven guilty has been a quote that has been around since Mesopotamia and most likely will remain for another equal amount of time. Luckily we no longer have to resort to a few of the Jack-the-Ripper style laws that were originally recorded, probably thanks to the first divorce attorneys. - StrongArm789
This video actually helped explain the last about Hammurabi. I enjoyed it clarifying the unanswered questions I had on the last one. How the time he wrote this was around 1754 B.C. And there was actually 282 laws that were written in stone. I thought it was pretty cool seeing that there were even laws on the minimum wage. Also, that if you were caught lying you would get drowned. That is some pretty intense stuff that was going on in that era. What I found to be a little disturbing was the punishment the nurse was given if she was caught feeding another child if the others parents did not consent to this. -Ibanez789
This video is very interesting not because of the man speaking or the effects done in it but for the topic spoke in it. It talks about the Hammurabi’s code and what it has provided us for the modern rules or laws of society. Hammurabi is the one that said eye for an eye. Hammurabi founded some of the ideas that we use today and have used for many years. In the video the guy talking said that Hammurabi was very wise and I have to agree considering the time he lived it was easy for people to rule by an iron fist. Meaning it was his way or the highway. You could say he did but I feel like he let the evidence provided to him make the decision for him almost. Especially when you hear about him having court proceedings. In the modern times all we have done with some of the code is make it more humane. Jfl789
It's interesting to see how the past relates to the present. Back in the times in which this code applied there were different punishments for different levels of society. The lower levels, or slaves were much more likely to be punished than royals were. This is much like todays society. In todays society the population that makes up the lower class are more likely to take fault and be punished for criminal behavior, whereas the upper class are not immune, but definitely have more protection. You can also see the sexism that was intense back then, if a woman's husband has done her wrong she will be able to move in to her father's home and there is no comment on what will happen to the man. Now if the woman has done her husband wrong she will be drowned. Seems fair. -Leilani789
The video is really informative on how important the codes really are to modern society and many other society's. I never realized how much laws made 1000's of years ago affect the modern world. It seems like they usually like to keep the punishment fair with certain laws such as "An eye for an eye." Some of the punishments are quite a bit over the top and unneeded and ridiculous. I do not believe in drowning someone because they might have told a little lie. This video has good information about how the people that lived 1000's of years ago thought about. I think it is very possible that some people of the ancient civilizations where blood thirsty savages. ~ Caz789
I like this video, specifically as a deeper understanding of the first video. In the first video about Hammurabi's Code of Laws, it basically summed up the history of the creation of laws, but this video describes the code more in depth. This allows there to be a real understanding of the huge difference in acceptable punishment in the time period of Hamurabbi compared to now. However, the second video was cool because although it showed some extreme differences between acceptable laws based on the time period, it also showed that some important concepts have remained in place over thousands of years. For example, the video mentioned how Hammurabi's Code of Laws included things such as minimum wage, marriage and divorce, which are still key concepts in today's law. This video is especially unique because it shows both perspectives that I mentioned above: 1) it shows how gruesome and crazy some laws were then compared to what would be allowed now and 2) it shows how key concepts have remained constant over thousands of years. Cards789
It was rather unique that even today we still have a similar model/idea of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. As "jacked up" as this world is, this made me think about King Solomon in his book Ecclesiastes, which revolved around the idea of there is nothing new under the sun. I did find it rather interesting that even then, as "correct" his laws may have been the had a bias based off of social status. The sad thing is, that it is still present today. "Eye for an Eye and Tooth for Tooth" is something that is a brutal thought, but are we really capable of actually doing this? It always bugs me when we get in this state of thinking, because there is no way we can replicate the evil done to us. There is justice, but is it just to repay evil with the same evil? That was something that I pondered while watching around the 1:50 mark. I'm surprised that Hammurabi had around 200 laws documented. Palmdaddy789
Ok, first of all i tried to hate this guy. I just couldn't dislike him. In an 'instant' world where things are expected on demand he kept it short. "Be brilliant, be short, and be seated." One of my favorite quotes my father-in-law uses. What a delivery. One of the interesting facts in this video was that Hammurabi's Code was written in 1754 BC! As a christian in this day and age we tend to focus on the New Testament more then the Old Testament. This Hammurabi Code has a very Old Testament feel to me. I whole heartedly believe that man is inherently evil. Without a manner in which to hold us responsible for our actions the moral thread of society as a whole will unravel. Laws are put into place to do just that. Fortunately, our modern day criminal justice system has a process that everyone who is a United States citizen is entitled to. That's what makes America so great. There is no all encompassing supreme leader who with a 'thumbs up' or a 'thumbs down' can determine your fate based on their biases. They don't just chop your hand off if you steal, vote, or just to torture you here in the states. I have to admit I love history. For this exact reasons this video hits on. To see how the time and location of a culture can be so different from another. Even in the same time period but different geographical location. Doberman789
I thought this video was a very interesting video to watch. It was talking about Hammurabi's code. I really liked how the guy quoted some of the actual rules from back when they were made. Compared to todays society, this society is so much different. I know that the time period is very different that we have evolved a lot since then but it is still very gruesome, as the Keith said in his video. Something I thought was interesting is how much similar we are today compared to back then. In one of the codes, it said something about an eye for eye basically and in todays world most people would agree with that. It isn't really biblical because in the bible it says if we are slapped on one side of the face just to turn the other cheek to the person who slapped us and let them slap the other one. Anyways I thought it was cool how we still have some of the same rules today that we had back in the day of Hammurabi. It just shows how some rules aren't broken. The good quote is "If its not broken, don't try to fix it." That is a very true quote and could relate to a lot of stuff in the criminal justice system. ICCRunner789
ReplyDeleteIts crazy to think that rules made 1000's of years ago would form a lot of our rules today. Hammurabi's view on crime is very interesting to me, The whole eye for an eye concept is genius. I don't think people would commit half the crimes they did if there were punishment's that actually detoured people from committing those crimes. The criminal justice and Hammurabi's laws have a lot of similarities and I believe if it wasn't for him the criminal justice system wouldn't be the same.
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An eye for an eye may have been genius back then, but in today's society it wouldn't work and doesn't work. The death penalty is basically an eye for an eye. A study was done a few years ago and it found in the states that still use the death penalty, the murder rate was higher than those who don't. Even the get tough on crime era in the 80s and 90s is to an extent a slight build off of hammurabis code. This basically said if you are caught with a little bit of drugs you will get some serious jail time. This was used to deter people away from doing drugs and other crime. I do agree however that the criminal justice system wouldn't be the same without hammurabis code.
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It is wild to think that those laws as old as they are still having an impact in today's world. The eye for an eye concept is "genius", but it isn't something we are capable of achieving. We are always going to go a step further. I think had his laws not been created, I wouldn't go as far as to say that our criminal justice system would be completely different, because Mosses would still have brought the ten commandments. I think we could recreate what Hammurabi did, since he borrow other laws from other places.
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It's interesting to think that parts Hammurabi's ideas on punishment for a crime are still used today. Hammurabi had some good ideas for the punishment for committing a crime. His punishments probably made people think twice before committing a crime back then. The eye for an eye is a very good idea. If it was still used today people would defiantly think twice before committing a crime. If they had to suffer what they did to someone else it could possibly stop them from committing whatever crime they are about to commit. Hammurabi's laws were some of the first punishment for committing a crime and were the basics for the criminal justice system today. dragons789
ReplyDeleteThe video was interesting to hear how Hammurabi’s laws greatly influenced some of the laws that are in place today. Hearings that there were things about having being innocent until proven guilty, the use of evidence, witness statement at a trial, and things like that are amazing to think of how revolutionary that those ideas must have been at the time since we are still using them over two hundred years later. It was not surprising that you would be killed for lying in trial because during that time there was a lot of killings as it was. I am glad that not every law was passed down through time because if we went around killing innocent daughters of a convicted man who caused a miscarriage then the laws don’t feel like they are set up for justice; they are more set up for some cruel revenge which is unconstitutional by today’s standards. Birdman789
ReplyDeleteThis video was really interesting its amazing how these laws that date back to 1754 B.C. had an effect on some of the laws that are placed today. Hammurabi's laws were very extreme but also very interesting. An eye for an eye is simply brilliance, and its amazing how people still use that code of ethic today. I honestly don't think people would commit crimes today if there were actually hardcore punishments to their crimes that they commit. Not all of Hammurabi's codes were right, like the killing of a mans daughter, glad that code didn't get passed down. -dicaprio789
ReplyDeleteThere would definitely be less people crowding up the jails. The bad thing about Hammurabi's codes, despite being extreme and gruesome, is that there was a lot of favoritism involved. Favoritism for royals and citizens well off, and for men of course.
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I found the video very helpful especially when he quoted some of the codes so we could really see some of the punishments people went through during those times. Some of the punishments were kind of insane especially the one where if the man kills a pregnant woman then his daughter shall be killed. Why not just kill the guy and not his innocent daughter. or what if the guy didn't have a daughter did they substitute his mother or sister? Then again we have some insane laws today, but its just like what the video said its not the laws that really mattered it was the principle that there were rules and laws that people followed and if they didn't they would be punished. Godzilla789
ReplyDeleteThe video was very informative even though he made it kind of silly. In today's society we laugh and think all of the crimes and punishments written about in Hammurabis code are outrageous but without this set of laws we might not have modern day laws like we do today. Hammurabis code is extremely important and is the basis for laws today all over the world. Most of them were very insane like killing a mans daughter if he killed a pregnant woman. The question is, were these laws actually enforced 100% of the time or were they just used to deter people away from committing crimes?
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It was nice to see somewhat of a comic and serious tone amongst the unified code of Hammurabi. To have laws currently that held sway in 1750BCE is something quite spectacular. These were taken from 16 separate city-states, so Hammurabi definitely wasn't only attempting to unify a code of law but also all of Babylon at the time. 282 laws don't seem like many considering Illinois alone passed over 200 at the turn of this year. Innocent until proven guilty has been a quote that has been around since Mesopotamia and most likely will remain for another equal amount of time. Luckily we no longer have to resort to a few of the Jack-the-Ripper style laws that were originally recorded, probably thanks to the first divorce attorneys. - StrongArm789
ReplyDeleteThis video actually helped explain the last about Hammurabi. I enjoyed it clarifying the unanswered questions I had on the last one. How the time he wrote this was around 1754 B.C. And there was actually 282 laws that were written in stone. I thought it was pretty cool seeing that there were even laws on the minimum wage. Also, that if you were caught lying you would get drowned. That is some pretty intense stuff that was going on in that era. What I found to be a little disturbing was the punishment the nurse was given if she was caught feeding another child if the others parents did not consent to this.
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This video is very interesting not because of the man speaking or the effects done in it but for the topic spoke in it. It talks about the Hammurabi’s code and what it has provided us for the modern rules or laws of society. Hammurabi is the one that said eye for an eye. Hammurabi founded some of the ideas that we use today and have used for many years. In the video the guy talking said that Hammurabi was very wise and I have to agree considering the time he lived it was easy for people to rule by an iron fist. Meaning it was his way or the highway. You could say he did but I feel like he let the evidence provided to him make the decision for him almost. Especially when you hear about him having court proceedings. In the modern times all we have done with some of the code is make it more humane.
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It's interesting to see how the past relates to the present. Back in the times in which this code applied there were different punishments for different levels of society. The lower levels, or slaves were much more likely to be punished than royals were. This is much like todays society. In todays society the population that makes up the lower class are more likely to take fault and be punished for criminal behavior, whereas the upper class are not immune, but definitely have more protection. You can also see the sexism that was intense back then, if a woman's husband has done her wrong she will be able to move in to her father's home and there is no comment on what will happen to the man. Now if the woman has done her husband wrong she will be drowned. Seems fair.
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The video is really informative on how important the codes really are to modern society and many other society's. I never realized how much laws made 1000's of years ago affect the modern world. It seems like they usually like to keep the punishment fair with certain laws such as "An eye for an eye." Some of the punishments are quite a bit over the top and unneeded and ridiculous. I do not believe in drowning someone because they might have told a little lie. This video has good information about how the people that lived 1000's of years ago thought about. I think it is very possible that some people of the ancient civilizations where blood thirsty savages.
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I like this video, specifically as a deeper understanding of the first video. In the first video about Hammurabi's Code of Laws, it basically summed up the history of the creation of laws, but this video describes the code more in depth. This allows there to be a real understanding of the huge difference in acceptable punishment in the time period of Hamurabbi compared to now. However, the second video was cool because although it showed some extreme differences between acceptable laws based on the time period, it also showed that some important concepts have remained in place over thousands of years. For example, the video mentioned how Hammurabi's Code of Laws included things such as minimum wage, marriage and divorce, which are still key concepts in today's law. This video is especially unique because it shows both perspectives that I mentioned above: 1) it shows how gruesome and crazy some laws were then compared to what would be allowed now and 2) it shows how key concepts have remained constant over thousands of years. Cards789
ReplyDeleteIt was rather unique that even today we still have a similar model/idea of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable. As "jacked up" as this world is, this made me think about King Solomon in his book Ecclesiastes, which revolved around the idea of there is nothing new under the sun. I did find it rather interesting that even then, as "correct" his laws may have been the had a bias based off of social status. The sad thing is, that it is still present today. "Eye for an Eye and Tooth for Tooth" is something that is a brutal thought, but are we really capable of actually doing this? It always bugs me when we get in this state of thinking, because there is no way we can replicate the evil done to us. There is justice, but is it just to repay evil with the same evil? That was something that I pondered while watching around the 1:50 mark. I'm surprised that Hammurabi had around 200 laws documented.
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Ok, first of all i tried to hate this guy. I just couldn't dislike him. In an 'instant' world where things are expected on demand he kept it short. "Be brilliant, be short, and be seated." One of my favorite quotes my father-in-law uses. What a delivery. One of the interesting facts in this video was that Hammurabi's Code was written in 1754 BC! As a christian in this day and age we tend to focus on the New Testament more then the Old Testament. This Hammurabi Code has a very Old Testament feel to me. I whole heartedly believe that man is inherently evil. Without a manner in which to hold us responsible for our actions the moral thread of society as a whole will unravel. Laws are put into place to do just that. Fortunately, our modern day criminal justice system has a process that everyone who is a United States citizen is entitled to. That's what makes America so great. There is no all encompassing supreme leader who with a 'thumbs up' or a 'thumbs down' can determine your fate based on their biases. They don't just chop your hand off if you steal, vote, or just to torture you here in the states. I have to admit I love history. For this exact reasons this video hits on. To see how the time and location of a culture can be so different from another. Even in the same time period but different geographical location. Doberman789
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