I thought this video was very interesting. It showed how some old civilizations were ruled by a dictator and had very few rights. Another thing I thought was interesting was the fact that one of ours states is punishing youths by giving them community service. I am not sure whether that is a good or a bad thing as of right now. I like it because it is showing the youths a punishment that they need and its also a way for them to help the community. I don't think it is a good idea just for the simple question, is it a good enough punishment? I am wondering if they will actually learn from their mistake or will they think "Hey, I got off easy that time! I can go ahead and do my crime again and get off easy again!" I hope that community service is a good enough punishment for the youths. They need to learn their lesson because they are tomorrows future leaders. ICCRunner789
The video was interesting and gave you an idea on how countries use to be ruled. I think that the town in Texas is doing a good thing for the juvenile offenders but could also have some negative effects. It gives teens who made a mistake a second chance but also gives them punishment for their crime. Instead of making them serve probation they serve their punishment in community service which is probably more effective than probation. A lot of the teens who go through this process made a little mistake and this will make them realize what will happen if they continue to choose a life or crime. Most of them will not continue to commit crimes after they go through the experience. The negative effects are that some teen will think that that punishment wasn't bad. They will continue to commit crime thinking they will get the same punishment every time when thats not how the program works. dragons789
It was interesting to see where they actually started to write down laws instead of it be a word of mouth deal where it could get confusing if the information got mixed up over time. It was also interesting to see that the Shiites were the first ones to write down their laws instead of the Ottoman Empire because the Ottomans were the superior power between the Muslim states. I also think that the fact that Napoleon Bonaparte crowned himself was pretty cool thing to do to show how much power he had and ;then write up a code that gave jobs to the qualified and not the rich was very uncommon for the times. The kid court in Texas seemed a little childish to me because everything was made up of kids and in the end all the kids did community service. It seems like a good idea for some kids because they will get a feel for the judicial system if they are interested in law but for the kid that is the defendant might feel that they are getting away with their crime by doing community service. Birdman789
This video was very interesting giving you an idea of how and when laws started taking place and being taken into action. Its interesting to see different how the codes of Hammurabi were brought into different time periods, not exactly the same thing but it originated with Hammurabi. It was interesting to learn that in Texas they developed a "teen court" to show teens how important they are, and how they play a role in society. Some of the punishments the teens faced were community service which I thought was a really great idea, more teens even today should be involved in their communities and let it be known how important they are. I feel thats why a lot of teens act out because they may not be getting the attention at home, but giving the teenagers things to do in their communities could give them a sense of placement and feeling important. At the end of the day like the video says the laws will change but one thing does not change and that's the quest: law, order, and justice. -dicaprio789
If there was no law no justice no rules then I believe that the would be in chaos. imagine in in todays society the government collapsed and there were no longer rules or laws. I think its very interesting how Hammurabi paved the road for what the criminal justice system is today. I am a firm believer in the eye for an eye. If you get arrested for assault then you should get beaten up. If you steal a car then you shouldn't be able to own a car. The only reason able punishment for murder is death. I am glad to see that some societies today are really making big improvements in criminal justice. The town in Texas with the kids court is genius. There is a gray area for everything like with the eye for an eye. When kids do something wrong they shouldn't get punished (depending on what they do). I think the community service is a great idea. Godzilla789
Hammurabis code is very important in law and criminal justice. It was the basis for all laws since then and in modern times. There are a few people who don't think government is good and that anarchy is the answer. This is simply not true and without any laws or rules the country would be in turmoil and people would be getting hurt and dying left and right.
Imagine a world not centered around a written form of law. I believe there would still be various societies across the world, but I also believe that civilization would easily be half of what we are. It is strange to think that Hammurabi’s Code was first to spread from city to nation and beyond much sooner than the works of early religious texts. I say this because these laws were first to distinguish topics of trade, taxes, marriage, murder, etc. Penalties in general under a class system in an attempt to stay balanced with the ‘eye for an eye’ clause. Albeit this may not work in its purest intentions, I’m sure Hammurabi was thinking of keeping the scales of justice level; same goes for Napoleonic law. The video shows the relevance to youth and how a separate court for kids can establish programs such as community service. Personally I wish this were in every state, keeping the adult and juvenile systems separate yet easier for all parties involved. There should be scare tactics in a sense for repeat offenders, but for first time offenders community service and a fine seems legit. Youth matters and if you can pick them up to understand the legal system at an earlier age I am all for it. Hammurabi changed the entire world even if he wasn’t aware of it. - StrongArm789
The first part of this was pretty much common sense. That how without laws and letting people do as they please would be absolutely chaotic. But knowing that Hammurabi's code of laws were the first laws written was actually pretty interesting. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" had to of been a crazy law to enforce. He was right in a sense but if we applied that to today's society, it would be out of control. I could only imagine what kind of things went on back then. That is probably why things went crashing down on him because even though it was somewhat fair, it actually wasn't. That law would not apply to this society now, mainly because if you were to drink and drive and kill a child, it would not be okay to let that family take the life of yours. That is if that is exactly how the law was back then though. -Ibanez789
It'd be so hard to enforce in today's society, especially since there were so many completely random laws. There's probably only a handful of people that would take the time to sit down and memorize all of the laws in this code. And those who didn't memorize them would have something awful happen to them. We think the jails are overcrowded now, but that would be insane. We would all be in jail. Leilani789
Laws are a very regular thing to have now. But back when Hammurabi lived and ruled there did one person rule no central justice system for an entire land. Hammurabi was the first person to make and establish a code of laws. He had good sense of what was right and wrong and that was evident in the code he made. Considering that we use the base idea today. The other part of the video that I though was interesting was the Texas town where they have a juvenile court system run by juveniles. There idea of juveniles being on jury and defending people is a tactic that I see working in more areas if it was implemented there. That idea of a juvenile being convicted and then gets community service is a wonderful idea not just because it could save the city money but the juvenile can learn more form it probably and not to mention they know they get only one chance before they get to a more serious court. Jfl78
This was a nice introduction to Hammurabi's code while showing its roots in history. I found it interesting that his code (his laws) came before Moses and the Ten Commandments during the Old Testament. Regardless of the specifics, the video posed an interesting question, "what would the world look like without any laws?" That would be a gruesome sight which is unfathomable. Laws are placed to establish a person's rights and obligations through justice by a set of principles. There are a lot of similarities to Hammurabi's laws that dealt with the subject matters of divorce (Not a crime anymore, but there are laws and a process established for it), murder, theft, and other public laws. There has always been a quest for law and justice in humanity. Texas had an interesting take on the juvenile side by promoting community service as well as having them sit as a juror. The idea of a second chance would be a safety net for those that are struggling. This gives purpose to a child in return may change their past behavior. Palmdaddy789
I liked that the video explains the first real set of laws. I had never heard of Hammurabi's code of laws until I watched this video. I would have never expected that they would focus on marriage laws that far back in time. It is a very good thing that he put these laws into action so that way future civilizations would have something to base their laws off of. I also believe that the juvenile court that the city in Texas is a very good program. It gives the kids that messed up a second chance instead of ruining their lives so young. Some kids really don't want to commit a crime but at times maybe they think that's the only option. I believe everyone deserves a second chance and this program give it to the unfortunate kids. ~ Caz789
I think the teenage court in Texas is a pretty cool idea for petty crimes. Not only are the juveniles probably more comfortable but it's a great learning experience for the teenagers that are sitting on jury and contributing in other ways. It's intriguing to see how far back society knew that laws had to be made and followed to run a community, obviously some attempts were better than others but the idea was still there. Like we saw in the video of Hammurabi's code explained, the codes were very strict, if you didn't take the time to sit down and read through all of the codes you would probably end up being punished for something you wouldn't even think was a crime. Like not being able to nurse another child after the last child you nursed had died unless you had those parents permission? I mean who thinks of that? Unless you knew all of the codes by heart you were bound to mess up and get punished eventually. Napoleon's attempt was more successful by far. -Leilani789
This video shows the importance of laws when it comes to maintaining a peaceful society. It also reveals how crime and laws relative to crime can change over time. For example, Hammurabi's Code of Laws in Mesopotamia were a collaboration of pre-existing rules that the individual city/states had in place. I believe he did this in order to create a code that covered the spectrum of needs based on pre-existing rules. By doing so, he made the code fit to the crimes that were taking place. He even included specific punishments for specific crimes. In France, in 1804, Napolean had a similar idea to create unified laws, which helped to restructure France. These two are great examples of the importance of laws in order to maintain a peaceful society. For a more recent example of how crime can impact the laws, the video showed a teen court in Texas. The court exists because it was discovered that a majority of crimes that were being committed were done so by juvenile offenders. Once this was found out, Texas began teen court. Here, a first misdemeanor offense will result in the punishment of community service. Overall, the video amplifies the idea that some sort of laws are necessary in order to maintain a peaceful society. It reminds us that laws can change over time and laws can also change relative to crime statistics. Cards789
I think what the small town in Texas is doing with community service for juveniles is a great idea. instead of giving them a record or sending them to a juvenile detention center they make them do something productive for the community. Also when the code of Hammurabi was explained it mentioned that Hammurabi gathered rules and laws from the states of his empire and made the laws pertain to the whole empire instead of different laws for each state. That is kind of like the united states law system in a way. I think it is interesting that a system of rules created so long ago would still be being discussed today and is still helping mold some laws in today's society. The eye for an eye rule that was made by Hammurabi could be considered cruel and unusual punishment but i think it would slow down the murder rate. If people knew they would be executed if they got caught committing a murder i think the crime rate would go down. KLICK789
First off, hats off to you King Hammurabi. Mesopotamia takes credit for the invention of the wheel also, just saying. I wanted to put that out there. Here is a guy who had it figured out. I haven't read all 282 of the codes that were written in 1754 BC. Probably never will. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they are a little extreme for my personal taste. But he had it figured out. People will manipulate any system that is not strongly warranted by law. Laws have to be written so they aren't randomly changed by petitioners/respondents. Word of mouth is similar to the childhood game of telephone. Now after watching this video I wonder if he put these codes into order for personal gain or to strengthen the idea of justice in his society. We'll never know and he's not talking. The woman had mentioned 'rule of law' in the video. It makes think of WROL. WROL: without rule of law. How terrible this concept is to me. I mean picture the worst riots in history. On american soil even (Ferguson 2014/L.A. '92/Chicago '68/ Detroit '67/NYC 1863) Picture nationwide rioting like around the time Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. Then make that universal twenty-four-seven. Men who have the most resources and biggest guns will rule. Tyrants, mobs, and gangs. Hell on earth, a war zone your world would become. Families will be ripped apart and your ability to be still will have evaporated. Like previously stated in my response to the other video in this series, man is inherently evil. A series of checks and balances must be in play to keep our natural tendencies at bay. A nurturing of civility is important to a society so it stays in intact. I would like to add something because i feel like a Debby Downer on here about the nature of man. I believe man can be good/decent. There is a dichotomy in us all. A push and a pull. Don't get me wrong. Please. Doberman789
I thought this video was very interesting. It showed how some old civilizations were ruled by a dictator and had very few rights. Another thing I thought was interesting was the fact that one of ours states is punishing youths by giving them community service. I am not sure whether that is a good or a bad thing as of right now. I like it because it is showing the youths a punishment that they need and its also a way for them to help the community. I don't think it is a good idea just for the simple question, is it a good enough punishment? I am wondering if they will actually learn from their mistake or will they think "Hey, I got off easy that time! I can go ahead and do my crime again and get off easy again!" I hope that community service is a good enough punishment for the youths. They need to learn their lesson because they are tomorrows future leaders. ICCRunner789
ReplyDeleteThe video was interesting and gave you an idea on how countries use to be ruled. I think that the town in Texas is doing a good thing for the juvenile offenders but could also have some negative effects. It gives teens who made a mistake a second chance but also gives them punishment for their crime. Instead of making them serve probation they serve their punishment in community service which is probably more effective than probation. A lot of the teens who go through this process made a little mistake and this will make them realize what will happen if they continue to choose a life or crime. Most of them will not continue to commit crimes after they go through the experience. The negative effects are that some teen will think that that punishment wasn't bad. They will continue to commit crime thinking they will get the same punishment every time when thats not how the program works. dragons789
ReplyDeleteIt was interesting to see where they actually started to write down laws instead of it be a word of mouth deal where it could get confusing if the information got mixed up over time. It was also interesting to see that the Shiites were the first ones to write down their laws instead of the Ottoman Empire because the Ottomans were the superior power between the Muslim states. I also think that the fact that Napoleon Bonaparte crowned himself was pretty cool thing to do to show how much power he had and ;then write up a code that gave jobs to the qualified and not the rich was very uncommon for the times. The kid court in Texas seemed a little childish to me because everything was made up of kids and in the end all the kids did community service. It seems like a good idea for some kids because they will get a feel for the judicial system if they are interested in law but for the kid that is the defendant might feel that they are getting away with their crime by doing community service. Birdman789
ReplyDeleteThis video was very interesting giving you an idea of how and when laws started taking place and being taken into action. Its interesting to see different how the codes of Hammurabi were brought into different time periods, not exactly the same thing but it originated with Hammurabi. It was interesting to learn that in Texas they developed a "teen court" to show teens how important they are, and how they play a role in society. Some of the punishments the teens faced were community service which I thought was a really great idea, more teens even today should be involved in their communities and let it be known how important they are. I feel thats why a lot of teens act out because they may not be getting the attention at home, but giving the teenagers things to do in their communities could give them a sense of placement and feeling important. At the end of the day like the video says the laws will change but one thing does not change and that's the quest: law, order, and justice. -dicaprio789
ReplyDeleteIf there was no law no justice no rules then I believe that the would be in chaos. imagine in in todays society the government collapsed and there were no longer rules or laws. I think its very interesting how Hammurabi paved the road for what the criminal justice system is today. I am a firm believer in the eye for an eye. If you get arrested for assault then you should get beaten up. If you steal a car then you shouldn't be able to own a car. The only reason able punishment for murder is death. I am glad to see that some societies today are really making big improvements in criminal justice. The town in Texas with the kids court is genius. There is a gray area for everything like with the eye for an eye. When kids do something wrong they shouldn't get punished (depending on what they do). I think the community service is a great idea. Godzilla789
ReplyDeleteHammurabis code is very important in law and criminal justice. It was the basis for all laws since then and in modern times. There are a few people who don't think government is good and that anarchy is the answer. This is simply not true and without any laws or rules the country would be in turmoil and people would be getting hurt and dying left and right.
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Imagine a world not centered around a written form of law. I believe there would still be various societies across the world, but I also believe that civilization would easily be half of what we are. It is strange to think that Hammurabi’s Code was first to spread from city to nation and beyond much sooner than the works of early religious texts. I say this because these laws were first to distinguish topics of trade, taxes, marriage, murder, etc. Penalties in general under a class system in an attempt to stay balanced with the ‘eye for an eye’ clause. Albeit this may not work in its purest intentions, I’m sure Hammurabi was thinking of keeping the scales of justice level; same goes for Napoleonic law. The video shows the relevance to youth and how a separate court for kids can establish programs such as community service. Personally I wish this were in every state, keeping the adult and juvenile systems separate yet easier for all parties involved. There should be scare tactics in a sense for repeat offenders, but for first time offenders community service and a fine seems legit. Youth matters and if you can pick them up to understand the legal system at an earlier age I am all for it. Hammurabi changed the entire world even if he wasn’t aware of it. - StrongArm789
ReplyDeleteThe first part of this was pretty much common sense. That how without laws and letting people do as they please would be absolutely chaotic. But knowing that Hammurabi's code of laws were the first laws written was actually pretty interesting. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" had to of been a crazy law to enforce. He was right in a sense but if we applied that to today's society, it would be out of control. I could only imagine what kind of things went on back then. That is probably why things went crashing down on him because even though it was somewhat fair, it actually wasn't. That law would not apply to this society now, mainly because if you were to drink and drive and kill a child, it would not be okay to let that family take the life of yours. That is if that is exactly how the law was back then though.
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It'd be so hard to enforce in today's society, especially since there were so many completely random laws. There's probably only a handful of people that would take the time to sit down and memorize all of the laws in this code. And those who didn't memorize them would have something awful happen to them. We think the jails are overcrowded now, but that would be insane. We would all be in jail.
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Laws are a very regular thing to have now. But back when Hammurabi lived and ruled there did one person rule no central justice system for an entire land. Hammurabi was the first person to make and establish a code of laws. He had good sense of what was right and wrong and that was evident in the code he made. Considering that we use the base idea today. The other part of the video that I though was interesting was the Texas town where they have a juvenile court system run by juveniles. There idea of juveniles being on jury and defending people is a tactic that I see working in more areas if it was implemented there. That idea of a juvenile being convicted and then gets community service is a wonderful idea not just because it could save the city money but the juvenile can learn more form it probably and not to mention they know they get only one chance before they get to a more serious court.
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This was a nice introduction to Hammurabi's code while showing its roots in history. I found it interesting that his code (his laws) came before Moses and the Ten Commandments during the Old Testament. Regardless of the specifics, the video posed an interesting question, "what would the world look like without any laws?"
ReplyDeleteThat would be a gruesome sight which is unfathomable. Laws are placed to establish a person's rights and obligations through justice by a set of principles.
There are a lot of similarities to Hammurabi's laws that dealt with the subject matters of divorce (Not a crime anymore, but there are laws and a process established for it), murder, theft, and other public laws.
There has always been a quest for law and justice in humanity.
Texas had an interesting take on the juvenile side by promoting community service as well as having them sit as a juror. The idea of a second chance would be a safety net for those that are struggling. This gives purpose to a child in return may change their past behavior.
Palmdaddy789
I liked that the video explains the first real set of laws. I had never heard of Hammurabi's code of laws until I watched this video. I would have never expected that they would focus on marriage laws that far back in time. It is a very good thing that he put these laws into action so that way future civilizations would have something to base their laws off of. I also believe that the juvenile court that the city in Texas is a very good program. It gives the kids that messed up a second chance instead of ruining their lives so young. Some kids really don't want to commit a crime but at times maybe they think that's the only option. I believe everyone deserves a second chance and this program give it to the unfortunate kids.
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I think the teenage court in Texas is a pretty cool idea for petty crimes. Not only are the juveniles probably more comfortable but it's a great learning experience for the teenagers that are sitting on jury and contributing in other ways. It's intriguing to see how far back society knew that laws had to be made and followed to run a community, obviously some attempts were better than others but the idea was still there. Like we saw in the video of Hammurabi's code explained, the codes were very strict, if you didn't take the time to sit down and read through all of the codes you would probably end up being punished for something you wouldn't even think was a crime. Like not being able to nurse another child after the last child you nursed had died unless you had those parents permission? I mean who thinks of that? Unless you knew all of the codes by heart you were bound to mess up and get punished eventually. Napoleon's attempt was more successful by far.
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This video shows the importance of laws when it comes to maintaining a peaceful society. It also reveals how crime and laws relative to crime can change over time. For example, Hammurabi's Code of Laws in Mesopotamia were a collaboration of pre-existing rules that the individual city/states had in place. I believe he did this in order to create a code that covered the spectrum of needs based on pre-existing rules. By doing so, he made the code fit to the crimes that were taking place. He even included specific punishments for specific crimes. In France, in 1804, Napolean had a similar idea to create unified laws, which helped to restructure France. These two are great examples of the importance of laws in order to maintain a peaceful society. For a more recent example of how crime can impact the laws, the video showed a teen court in Texas. The court exists because it was discovered that a majority of crimes that were being committed were done so by juvenile offenders. Once this was found out, Texas began teen court. Here, a first misdemeanor offense will result in the punishment of community service. Overall, the video amplifies the idea that some sort of laws are necessary in order to maintain a peaceful society. It reminds us that laws can change over time and laws can also change relative to crime statistics. Cards789
ReplyDeleteI think what the small town in Texas is doing with community service for juveniles is a great idea. instead of giving them a record or sending them to a juvenile detention center they make them do something productive for the community. Also when the code of Hammurabi was explained it mentioned that Hammurabi gathered rules and laws from the states of his empire and made the laws pertain to the whole empire instead of different laws for each state. That is kind of like the united states law system in a way. I think it is interesting that a system of rules created so long ago would still be being discussed today and is still helping mold some laws in today's society. The eye for an eye rule that was made by Hammurabi could be considered cruel and unusual punishment but i think it would slow down the murder rate. If people knew they would be executed if they got caught committing a murder i think the crime rate would go down.
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First off, hats off to you King Hammurabi. Mesopotamia takes credit for the invention of the wheel also, just saying. I wanted to put that out there. Here is a guy who had it figured out. I haven't read all 282 of the codes that were written in 1754 BC. Probably never will. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they are a little extreme for my personal taste. But he had it figured out. People will manipulate any system that is not strongly warranted by law. Laws have to be written so they aren't randomly changed by petitioners/respondents. Word of mouth is similar to the childhood game of telephone. Now after watching this video I wonder if he put these codes into order for personal gain or to strengthen the idea of justice in his society. We'll never know and he's not talking. The woman had mentioned 'rule of law' in the video. It makes think of WROL. WROL: without rule of law. How terrible this concept is to me. I mean picture the worst riots in history. On american soil even (Ferguson 2014/L.A. '92/Chicago '68/ Detroit '67/NYC 1863) Picture nationwide rioting like around the time Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. Then make that universal twenty-four-seven. Men who have the most resources and biggest guns will rule. Tyrants, mobs, and gangs. Hell on earth, a war zone your world would become. Families will be ripped apart and your ability to be still will have evaporated. Like previously stated in my response to the other video in this series, man is inherently evil. A series of checks and balances must be in play to keep our natural tendencies at bay. A nurturing of civility is important to a society so it stays in intact. I would like to add something because i feel like a Debby Downer on here about the nature of man. I believe man can be good/decent. There is a dichotomy in us all. A push and a pull. Don't get me wrong. Please. Doberman789
ReplyDelete"the one that you feed wins"