Good video using a case to illustrate the steps and thought process that goes into correctly processing a crime scene. One of the points that stood out was the importance of detailed notes, sketches and documentation from the first officer on the scene to the investigator, photographer and technicians. TV shows give the impression that information is collected but do not adequately illustrate the level of detail necessary for the real life cases. We are also left with the impression that all case information fits comfortably into one box neatly marked on a shelf. The chain of custody was another good point of emphasis. Tracking custody of evidence starts when the evidence is collected. This chain protects not only an individual’s right, but allows accountability so it can be located if needed and prevents loss or contamination. I did not know the difference between a medical examiner and coroner and the explanation was instructive. That would explain the election signs of those running for Coroner. Humvee123
I liked how they explained the difference between a medical examiner and a coroner as well. I didn't exactly know the difference between the two and I felt as if though that was an appropriate thing to include within this video. I also did not know that there was that much documenting that went on between everybody who had possessed the evidence from the time of the original crime scene to the time it was presented in court. Sparks123
I agree he gave very informative information to distinguish between a coroner and a medical examiner. Today in possibly back in the day many always thought of the two as doing the exact same job. Yet the medical examiner is usually the pathologist appointed by the governing body of the area. The coroner actually not a medical doctor and has no special medical training, yet in some states is required by law to be a medical doctor. Forensics123
This video was very interesting on giving multiple tips on how to decipher between what the case could be. Whether it be a homicide, suicide, or an accidental death. It also gave a lot of good tips to remember when gathering and processing crime scene evidence. For instance, when it started giving examples of what items were and could be evidence as well as the containers they needed to be placed in if found at the scene of a crime. There was a lot that goes into crime scene evidence processing as well as a lot to take into consideration when dealing with something like this that a lot of people are more than likely unaware of. A simple mistake while dealing with the processing of evidence can cause some serious issues in solving the case. I liked how they used a real case to use as an example for this video. It got the mind thinking in a certain way. Sparks123
It is amazing to see all the things that would good to consider when conducting an investigation. If you don’t do something right or forget something then it can completely change the outcome of the investigation. Using a real case was interesting and I kind of want to know how the investigation accually turned out. Birdman123
Yes it is a very interesting video it went in depth on a lot of topics of the crime scene process the most important thing i took from this is documenting everything. Elite123
the video was an interesting one for sure, I think there are so many steps to follow when going to a crime scene it blows my mind because i had no idea that so much went into what goes on at the crime scenes. As far as the book case murder I also think someone pushed that case onto him on purpose. GRUNT123
It is an interesting video because it goes into good detail of all the things that go on in a crime scene investigation. The talks about how you need to document all the evidence, identify the evidence, individualize it and so on. I had no clue that a Coroner and a Medical Examiner were two different jobs; I figured that they were the same title but were just used in different places just like how some job titles in law enforcement are named differently in different areas of the country but are basically the same thing. I thought the case of the bookcase was interesting as well, from what it sounded like the fact that the wedges that held the bookcase against the wall were missing was the reason it could be classified as a homicide. It could have easily been someone new was working there, thought the wedges were an odd thing and removed them and the death was completely an accident. It could be a whole bunch of reasons of why that bookcase fell and that what I think is the fun part of the investigation process is trying to find what really happened. Birdman123
I thought the same thing about the Coroner and the Medical Examiner, and i was really blow away by the fact the coroner doesn't need to be a doctor except for in four states. That's crazy to me. The bookshelf case was definitely fishy; I think it was a homicide too.dangkids123
The face the wedges were missing is true that it could be something else happened by accident instead of somebody doing it on purpose but it was informative some what. The fact the coroner doesn't have to have any medical training I thought was pretty surprising knowing that there job is important. wreked123
In this video Mr. Zietz goes over crime scene processing. I thought it was a very informative video, and watching it helped me better understand everything we went over in Tuesday's class. He talked about the case involving the man getting smashed by the book shelf. He asked if we thought it was a homicide or accidental death, and then he stated reasons why it could have been either. Personally I think it sounds like a homicide. He then did a very good job at explaining the goals and procedures of crime scene processing, and the importance of doing it properly. The simplest of mistakes while dealing with evidence could potentially set a guilty person free, or you can do the opposite and convict an innocent person. His visual aid explaining the procedure of containing different types of evidence really helped understand the different methods. He also talks about how important the chain of custody is that way we know who has handled that specific piece of evidence. I was really surprised to hear the coroner usually doesn't have medical training. That doesn't make much sense to me. At the end of the video I learned I was probably right about the book shelf case being a homicide. Dangkids123
I agree with the importance of proper handling. Especially when there are countless news stories on how someone was just realized from prison for a crime they did not commit years and years after they were locked away. I was also not aware of the difference between the medical examiner and the coroner. Acquainted123
This video is very informative it talks about crime scene processing as it hints at in the title. The purpose of crime scene processing is to gather evidence, convict the responsible person and to find the truth. You have to pick out what is evidence or what is not evidence at a crime scene evidence is something related to the crime or can prove something about the crime. We need to gather evidence so we can determine if there was even a crime committed, or if we have charged the correct person, and sometimes it might tell us if there is a secondary location. A lot of team members are involved in the crime scene such as the first officer that arrives, EMTS. Investigators(detectives), sometimes there might be a medical examiner, photographer and lab experts. Documentation is key in all police matters rather it be righting down notes, sketches,photos or video because there is no way you can remember everything. Elite123
Yes he was very detailed about documenting of the crime scene. Such as taking notes, picture taking, video recording, date time, weather conditions, photography from a distance, midway, and up close. Evidence collection and packaging all evidence should be packaged separately, most fragile should be collected and packaged first. So that the evidence is not damaged or destroyed. Forensics123
I like that you stated that documentation is key in all police matters. Documentation can make or break a case. Its important to always be thorough and clear when documenting. You must be able to count on your documentations because a lot of times they make up a huge part of your case. gabegun123
I agree with you when saying that documenting everything is a vital part of an investigation. Without it, a prosecutor could question timing or something in your memory could be off. I think that being a crime scene investigator would be one of the toughest jobs because they have to be able to pick out a needle in a haystack by just looking at it. If they miss some kind of evidence, that could be the key to the investigation and then they caused the investigation to go wrong. Gators123
I like how this video really went through the different steps on what to do when you show up to a crime scene and what people will also show up depending on what was found at the crime scene. He gets really in-depth of what happens at a crime scene such as Recognition, scene survey and documentation at the scene and Identification classification of evidence, the Individualization comparison testing evaluation and interstation as well as Reconstruction of the scene and the events. His process of processing a crime scene also was very detailed. And how a huge part of that will fall on the first person that arrives. Then cameras and the sketches that are made and all the small things that also go into it as well like measurements and video recording. I like how he says only one person collects and packages all the evidence. Over all I think this video was very informative. GRUNT123
Accidental death or homicide? Solved by examining the evidence, process, and procedure, evidence collection and packaging, chain of custody, role of medical examiner. Not all physical objects at a crime scene are actual physical evidence. Gathering evidence to determine if an actual crime has been committed and if there is a secondary crime scene or any witness involved. It is very important when breaking down a crime scene that you throughly search and contain all evidence. Such as if you are the first responding officer and walk a certain pathway so when anyone else comes to the scene they should walk that same route. So that evidence that may have been overlooked to begin with will not be destroyed during the process. Documenting, such as notes, date time, weather conditions, video recording photography from a distance, midway, and up close. Evidence collection and packaging all evidence should be packaged separately, most fragile packaged first. Chain of custody is very important when evidence is contained. Sequencing the events of the crime scene is very important while in court, because everything has to be staged and played out as if it is happening this moment. The reenactment must be precise, just as a police report is written so that the sergeant reading can feel as if he is on the scene. Forensic123
I agree he gave very informative information to distinguish between a coroner and a medical examiner. Today and possibly back in the day many always thought of the two as doing the exact same job. Yet the medical examiner is usually the pathologist appointed by the governing body of the area. The coroner actually not a medical doctor and has no special medical training, yet in some states it is required by law to be a medical doctor. Forensics123
Very informative video that breaks down the basics of processing a crime scene. It goes in to detail every step you need to take in order to properly categorize a crime. It also went into detail how you should store different bits of evidence you find. All evidence needs to be put in precise environments in order to prevent deterioration. I liked how he focused on a few things that I wasn't really to familiar with. To start was when he talked about the chain of custody. This is a method of documenting which bits of evidence go where and also who has had possession of them. This would seem to be a very important part of maintaining evidence value. It was also interesting hearing about the role a medical examiner plays in the process. The medical examiner determines whether a death was natural, homicide, suicide, etc. This is a very interesting topic and I would definitely like to learn more about it. gabegun123
It was a good basic video on how to process and what goes into processing a crime scene. The guy explains that evidence should be a handled a certain way and notes should be taken meticulously, witch is good cause it is important. Explaining outside roles like the coroner or medical doctor is good information to keep in mind cause knowing bits and pieces of what they know can help you get an idea of what happen before it actually comes back. wreked123
This video was very informative with telling everything that goes into a crime scene investigation. I knew that there had to be a lot of detail and information that goes into the processing of an investigation but I didn’t realize there was a “chain of command” or that the medical examiner and the coroner were different people. The chain of command was interesting to me because I also didn’t know that every single moment that someone went through (i.e. the first officer on scene) has to be documented and then recounted later on in the investigation.
Going off of the “falling book case” case, noticing that the wedges on this book case were missing if a vital piece of evidence because had they not discovered that, they could have ruled this homicide as an accident and called it a day. Thankfully, though, the investigators found that they were missing and it only took a little force to move the book case. Gators123
This video did an excellent job of shining light on the intricate details of processing a crime scene. By taking the time to break down the steps and people involved it helped give me a better understanding of something I have yet to learn about in my college career. For example I was completely unaware that there is a difference between a medical examiner and a coroner and that there is such a large gap of knowledge between the two. Another key point I picked up on was the documentation of who showed up to the scene, and how evidence can change hands. Of course with more serious crimes such as murder it should be understood that every bit of evidence should be meticulously gathered to get the correct suspect and conviction afterwards. Altogether the video was put together rather well and held my attention through the entirety. Acquainted123
Good video using a case to illustrate the steps and thought process that goes into correctly processing a crime scene. One of the points that stood out was the importance of detailed notes, sketches and documentation from the first officer on the scene to the investigator, photographer and technicians. TV shows give the impression that information is collected but do not adequately illustrate the level of detail necessary for the real life cases. We are also left with the impression that all case information fits comfortably into one box neatly marked on a shelf. The chain of custody was another good point of emphasis. Tracking custody of evidence starts when the evidence is collected. This chain protects not only an individual’s right, but allows accountability so it can be located if needed and prevents loss or contamination. I did not know the difference between a medical examiner and coroner and the explanation was instructive. That would explain the election signs of those running for Coroner. Humvee123
ReplyDeleteI liked how they explained the difference between a medical examiner and a coroner as well. I didn't exactly know the difference between the two and I felt as if though that was an appropriate thing to include within this video. I also did not know that there was that much documenting that went on between everybody who had possessed the evidence from the time of the original crime scene to the time it was presented in court. Sparks123
DeleteI agree he gave very informative information to distinguish between a coroner and a medical examiner. Today in possibly back in the day many always thought of the two as doing the exact same job. Yet the medical examiner is usually the pathologist appointed by the governing body of the area. The coroner actually not a medical doctor and has no special medical training, yet in some states is required by law to be a medical doctor. Forensics123
DeleteThis video was very interesting on giving multiple tips on how to decipher between what the case could be. Whether it be a homicide, suicide, or an accidental death. It also gave a lot of good tips to remember when gathering and processing crime scene evidence. For instance, when it started giving examples of what items were and could be evidence as well as the containers they needed to be placed in if found at the scene of a crime. There was a lot that goes into crime scene evidence processing as well as a lot to take into consideration when dealing with something like this that a lot of people are more than likely unaware of. A simple mistake while dealing with the processing of evidence can cause some serious issues in solving the case. I liked how they used a real case to use as an example for this video. It got the mind thinking in a certain way. Sparks123
ReplyDeleteIt is amazing to see all the things that would good to consider when conducting an investigation. If you don’t do something right or forget something then it can completely change the outcome of the investigation. Using a real case was interesting and I kind of want to know how the investigation accually turned out. Birdman123
DeleteYes it is a very interesting video it went in depth on a lot of topics of the crime scene process the most important thing i took from this is documenting everything. Elite123
Deletethe video was an interesting one for sure, I think there are so many steps to follow when going to a crime scene it blows my mind because i had no idea that so much went into what goes on at the crime scenes. As far as the book case murder I also think someone pushed that case onto him on purpose.
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It is an interesting video because it goes into good detail of all the things that go on in a crime scene investigation. The talks about how you need to document all the evidence, identify the evidence, individualize it and so on. I had no clue that a Coroner and a Medical Examiner were two different jobs; I figured that they were the same title but were just used in different places just like how some job titles in law enforcement are named differently in different areas of the country but are basically the same thing. I thought the case of the bookcase was interesting as well, from what it sounded like the fact that the wedges that held the bookcase against the wall were missing was the reason it could be classified as a homicide. It could have easily been someone new was working there, thought the wedges were an odd thing and removed them and the death was completely an accident. It could be a whole bunch of reasons of why that bookcase fell and that what I think is the fun part of the investigation process is trying to find what really happened. Birdman123
ReplyDeleteI thought the same thing about the Coroner and the Medical Examiner, and i was really blow away by the fact the coroner doesn't need to be a doctor except for in four states. That's crazy to me. The bookshelf case was definitely fishy; I think it was a homicide too.dangkids123
DeleteThe face the wedges were missing is true that it could be something else happened by accident instead of somebody doing it on purpose but it was informative some what. The fact the coroner doesn't have to have any medical training I thought was pretty surprising knowing that there job is important. wreked123
DeleteIn this video Mr. Zietz goes over crime scene processing. I thought it was a very informative video, and watching it helped me better understand everything we went over in Tuesday's class. He talked about the case involving the man getting smashed by the book shelf. He asked if we thought it was a homicide or accidental death, and then he stated reasons why it could have been either. Personally I think it sounds like a homicide. He then did a very good job at explaining the goals and procedures of crime scene processing, and the importance of doing it properly. The simplest of mistakes while dealing with evidence could potentially set a guilty person free, or you can do the opposite and convict an innocent person. His visual aid explaining the procedure of containing different types of evidence really helped understand the different methods. He also talks about how important the chain of custody is that way we know who has handled that specific piece of evidence. I was really surprised to hear the coroner usually doesn't have medical training. That doesn't make much sense to me. At the end of the video I learned I was probably right about the book shelf case being a homicide. Dangkids123
ReplyDeleteI agree with the importance of proper handling. Especially when there are countless news stories on how someone was just realized from prison for a crime they did not commit years and years after they were locked away. I was also not aware of the difference between the medical examiner and the coroner. Acquainted123
DeleteThis video is very informative it talks about crime scene processing as it hints at in the title. The purpose of crime scene processing is to gather evidence, convict the responsible person and to find the truth. You have to pick out what is evidence or what is not evidence at a crime scene evidence is something related to the crime or can prove something about the crime. We need to gather evidence so we can determine if there was even a crime committed, or if we have charged the correct person, and sometimes it might tell us if there is a secondary location. A lot of team members are involved in the crime scene such as the first officer that arrives, EMTS. Investigators(detectives), sometimes there might be a medical examiner, photographer and lab experts. Documentation is key in all police matters rather it be righting down notes, sketches,photos or video because there is no way you can remember everything. Elite123
ReplyDeleteYes he was very detailed about documenting of the crime scene. Such as taking notes, picture taking, video recording, date time, weather conditions, photography from a distance, midway, and up close. Evidence collection and packaging all evidence should be packaged separately, most fragile should be collected and packaged first. So that the evidence is not damaged or destroyed. Forensics123
DeleteI like that you stated that documentation is key in all police matters. Documentation can make or break a case. Its important to always be thorough and clear when documenting. You must be able to count on your documentations because a lot of times they make up a huge part of your case. gabegun123
DeleteI agree with you when saying that documenting everything is a vital part of an investigation. Without it, a prosecutor could question timing or something in your memory could be off. I think that being a crime scene investigator would be one of the toughest jobs because they have to be able to pick out a needle in a haystack by just looking at it. If they miss some kind of evidence, that could be the key to the investigation and then they caused the investigation to go wrong. Gators123
DeleteI like how this video really went through the different steps on what to do when you show up to a crime scene and what people will also show up depending on what was found at the crime scene. He gets really in-depth of what happens at a crime scene such as Recognition, scene survey and documentation at the scene and Identification classification of evidence, the Individualization comparison testing evaluation and interstation as well as Reconstruction of the scene and the events. His process of processing a crime scene also was very detailed. And how a huge part of that will fall on the first person that arrives. Then cameras and the sketches that are made and all the small things that also go into it as well like measurements and video recording. I like how he says only one person collects and packages all the evidence. Over all I think this video was very informative.
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Accidental death or homicide? Solved by examining the evidence, process, and procedure, evidence collection and packaging, chain of custody, role of medical examiner. Not all physical objects at a crime scene are actual physical evidence. Gathering evidence to determine if an actual crime has been committed and if there is a secondary crime scene or any witness involved. It is very important when breaking down a crime scene that you throughly search and contain all evidence. Such as if you are the first responding officer and walk a certain pathway so when anyone else comes to the scene they should walk that same route. So that evidence that may have been overlooked to begin with will not be destroyed during the process. Documenting, such as notes, date time, weather conditions, video recording photography from a distance, midway, and up close. Evidence collection and packaging all evidence should be packaged separately, most fragile packaged first. Chain of custody is very important when evidence is contained. Sequencing the events of the crime scene is very important while in court, because everything has to be staged and played out as if it is happening this moment. The reenactment must be precise, just as a police report is written so that the sergeant reading can feel as if he is on the scene. Forensic123
ReplyDeleteI agree he gave very informative information to distinguish between a coroner and a medical examiner. Today and possibly back in the day many always thought of the two as doing the exact same job. Yet the medical examiner is usually the pathologist appointed by the governing body of the area. The coroner actually not a medical doctor and has no special medical training, yet in some states it is required by law to be a medical doctor. Forensics123
ReplyDeleteVery informative video that breaks down the basics of processing a crime scene. It goes in to detail every step you need to take in order to properly categorize a crime. It also went into detail how you should store different bits of evidence you find. All evidence needs to be put in precise environments in order to prevent deterioration. I liked how he focused on a few things that I wasn't really to familiar with. To start was when he talked about the chain of custody. This is a method of documenting which bits of evidence go where and also who has had possession of them. This would seem to be a very important part of maintaining evidence value. It was also interesting hearing about the role a medical examiner plays in the process. The medical examiner determines whether a death was natural, homicide, suicide, etc. This is a very interesting topic and I would definitely like to learn more about it. gabegun123
ReplyDeleteIt was a good basic video on how to process and what goes into processing a crime scene. The guy explains that evidence should be a handled a certain way and notes should be taken meticulously, witch is good cause it is important. Explaining outside roles like the coroner or medical doctor is good information to keep in mind cause knowing bits and pieces of what they know can help you get an idea of what happen before it actually comes back. wreked123
ReplyDeleteThis video was very informative with telling everything that goes into a crime scene investigation. I knew that there had to be a lot of detail and information that goes into the processing of an investigation but I didn’t realize there was a “chain of command” or that the medical examiner and the coroner were different people. The chain of command was interesting to me because I also didn’t know that every single moment that someone went through (i.e. the first officer on scene) has to be documented and then recounted later on in the investigation.
ReplyDeleteGoing off of the “falling book case” case, noticing that the wedges on this book case were missing if a vital piece of evidence because had they not discovered that, they could have ruled this homicide as an accident and called it a day. Thankfully, though, the investigators found that they were missing and it only took a little force to move the book case. Gators123
This video did an excellent job of shining light on the intricate details of processing a crime scene. By taking the time to break down the steps and people involved it helped give me a better understanding of something I have yet to learn about in my college career. For example I was completely unaware that there is a difference between a medical examiner and a coroner and that there is such a large gap of knowledge between the two. Another key point I picked up on was the documentation of who showed up to the scene, and how evidence can change hands. Of course with more serious crimes such as murder it should be understood that every bit of evidence should be meticulously gathered to get the correct suspect and conviction afterwards. Altogether the video was put together rather well and held my attention through the entirety. Acquainted123
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