That’s a very interesting video! I can see how, during the riots, groupthink would have taken over and caused the rioters to behave negatively as one. This certainly demonstrates the important role that peers play within our everyday actions. While few of these people may have rioted on their own, the common bond created by the love of the sporting event (and infuriation at the loss) may have caused the throng to act and think as one and minimized the sense of personal responsibility and morality. This event also goes to show the dangerous chain events that the combination of a single-minded group and alcohol can result in. While this is not always the result of these two factors coming into conjunction, it may be wise for organizers of such events to take them into consideration when hiring security. Perhaps security at similar sports events should be trained on how to respond to a groupthinking riot. – Jung012
Their behavior was pure common sense. They all knew better than that! If those people can not control themselves then they don't deserve to be in society. I do see how group think played it's part. Yet that is no excuse for the way these people acted. Completely made me sick! I love hockey so much and it's really sad seeing these people take the fun and joy out of it. VT012
VT, Yes people know better but they still do it anyway, almost like if you eat processed sugars or MCkie D's you know better but does that stop you? No. People can't always consciously control their behavior that would almost be impossible. Also we are always going to have people in our society that are like that, that's just how it has been and always will be. To say they don't deserve to be in society is a bit of a stretch don't you think? By no means am I defending them or their actions though. MuayThaiGuy012
I went to school in Chillicothe I know that on football game nights the majority of the police would be there within four blocks directing traffic and making sure everything went smoothly. That might be a good idea in these future events as well. Worst comes too worst there a few officers there to call for back up sooner to prevent that amount of damaged. TAGTaylor33012
I can see how groupthink could of taken over but we know what's right and what's wrong. I agree peers can have a negative impact on the way we act and behave today. With the consumption of alcohol and the love for there team losing did not help the situation but I don't think that it should of gotten out of hand as it did.Blue012
This is absolutely ridiculous...what has this world come too? Starting a riot and destroying a town is never the solution to any problem. Of all things to riot about, losing a hockey game is definitely not a good excuse. These people don't deserve to win as the girl said if they are going to react like that. Sports are a privilege and they are fun to watch. Everyone has a different favorite team and that is what makes it fun. When you start a riot because you are upset you lost, well that is the worst case of bad sportsman ship you can have. People these days have completely lost all respect!!! Don't ruin the other teams victory because you team happened to lose. The other team I'm sure worked very hard to get there and have just as much of a right to win as Vancouver. VT012
So here is my question what is more ridiculous, acting out like this over a sports game, or over someone getting killed by a police officer doing his or her job, protecting themselves and the lives of others? To me they are one in the same. The only persons with the right to act out (not riot) and be angry would be the players or people directly linked to the "victim" and even then one should not behave as an animal even though that's what we are basically, mammals. Yet I feel we have a dormant primitive nature inside of us and when others are in that pack mentality it triggers something inside us to join in. Sadly not every one can combat these urges. As a collective society we should be long past that but you can see it in the sport of hockey itself. Seven out of ten people wouldn't even be at a hockey game or like it if there wasn't some sort of violence. AKA checks and the throwing down of the gloves, so when you mix an already "violent" sport a drunk crowd and die hard fans the outcome was inevitable along with the out side factors of anarchists MuayThaiGuy012
VT012, I absolutely agree with you on it being ridiculous. Pack mentality or not, I think that should only go so far too as an excuse. At some point you have to be able to know the difference and say to yourself this isn't right or its gone too far. I think people let emotions take over sometimes which is understandable if your thinking there was a bad play or call, but even with a pack mentality there's a big difference between yelling at a ref or player then going out in the street and turning over a car for justification. I guess I just can't wrap my head around people acting like animals. The alcohol was also a major contributor because some people just can't handle it or become totally different people with it. Deacon012
I agree that sports are a privilege. The town just made them prove that they weren't ready for a championship. If you can't be a better loser than why make your town a face for winning? Just my opinion, with that being said that's what happens when your under the influence of alcohol and decide to join on in the fun and look bad with your peers. Pinky012
So here is my question what is more ridiculous, acting out like this over a sports game, or over someone getting killed by a police officer doing his or her job, protecting themselves and the lives of others? To me they are one in the same. The only persons with the right to act out (not riot) and be angry would be the players or people directly linked to the "victim" and even then one should not behave as an animal even though that's what we are basically, mammals. Yet I feel we have a dormant primitive nature inside of us and when others are in that pack mentality it triggers something inside us to join in. Sadly not every one can combat these urges. As a collective society we should be long past that but you can see it in the sport of hockey itself. Seven out of ten people wouldn't even be at a hockey game or like it if there wasn't some sort of violence. AKA checks and the throwing down of the gloves, so when you mix an already "violent" sport a drunk crowd and die hard fans the outcome was inevitable along with the out side factors of anarchists MuayThaiGuy012
I agree. How did this loss affect your life so badly that you decicded to set things on fire and flip over cars? At least in Ferguson, it was because someone had lost their life. It wasn't about a game. Albeit they had no right to do what they did either. But you're right, these actions made these people look like wild animals. Crown012
I agree with you as well! I do believe that the crowd at the hockey game acted like children throwing a fit. They had no reason to behave like that over a game. I do not think that all of the people rioting were that upset over their team losing. The pack mentality mentioned in the video, along with peer pressure caused the outbreak. I think it should have been handled sooner by the authorities, maybe if they did not let it escalate so high the stabbings could have been prevented. Storm012
I don’t understand the conformity concept, everyone in that video appears to be adult, when these type of things start, I wished someone immediately stopped them so that it wouldn’t spread. Taking advantage of large gathering and thinking that they wouldn’t be caught is bad mindset. Social responsibility is something should not be preached, everyone should have if they don’t then the law enforcement should take them to task - chichi012
A group of like minded people can be a very powerful thing. Whether good or bad, they have the power to make very bold statments. Im sure this was a spur of the moment group of like minded people. No one planned this or thought it through, they were just simply reacting to what others in their group were doing. With that many people involved, im sure most of them knew they probably weren't going to get in trouble for what was happening. Add some alcohol and an upsetting loss, and these people lose their minds. The things people will do to feel like they're a part of something. It would be interesting to see how the riot started, and from there how quickly it progressed and spread throughout the city. I would have been part of the other group that got the hell out of there, because this was rediculus. For what? A hockey game? No thanks. Crown012
I was wondering how it started as well. The news story seemed to acknowledge how it started but focused quite a bit on how it got worse. I just wonder if talking about how it began and the initial sparks that set it off, as well as the progression of intensity, would help to understand the whole situation. -Pasta012
I feel the group think in this particular situation,could have been completely avoided. There was no excuse for doing these things. The main thing I believe was wrong here was the people in general. If the ones who started the riot could have kept their heads on about a ridiculous sports game loss, this would not have happened. These kinds of people should not exist in civilized societies. Marley012
Self-awareness can be the most useful thing in intense situations. If you slack off and don’t care or just forget who you are then what you do doesn’t matter anymore in your head, until the next day. Your self-awareness of the situation you are/were in doesn’t just go away, sooner or later it will come back. In this age of smartphones and social media it won’t stay hidden for very long. Personally I feel like this is something kids need to be taught in high school, even if it doesn’t sink in we can at least plant the seed of self-aware thought and begin a tendency to think before you act. Obviously with teenagers this may not have much of a point because of hormones and other influences, but not trying won’t help either. It only takes one mistake or one instant with a lack of insight to ruin your life or even something as small as a day. But we shouldn’t just wait for it to happen and say how dare you when we could try before the event even begins.-Pasta012
Yes, I agree. Then you get alcohol, or anything, affecting your ability to control your own self-awareness and you have quite a bomb waiting to go off. Just as the psychologist was saying in the video we lose our inhibitions and everything just flies out the window it seems. Purple012
Self-awareness is key in our every day functioning. If you lose that, you're wandering aimlessly not caring about other people or yourself. I think these people were much less aware due to their consumption of alcohol mixed with rage. I don't think you can teach self-awareness in school. It's something that has to grow and develop over time and happens at different periods for each person. -leafy012
I had never heard of the Vancouver riot before watching this video. I am very shocked that a riot consisting of burning cars, breaking in windows, and stabbing people all began just because of a hockey game. I am under the impression, from watching the short video, that a large amount of alcohol was consumed that night. I also believe that several people started acting out, and because of the pack mentality and the pressure to fit in (conformity), many more people joined in with the rioting. I do not think that the people rioting were worried about all of the damages and consequences of their actions because of the deindividualization that occurred prior to the rioting, also because of the pack mentality. This is just absolutely ridiculous to me. These are grown adults acting like wild animals over a hockey game. Throwing a fit because you lost something is child’s play. I do believe that all involved should be locked up for some time, have to do community service, and pay for all damages done. Storm012
Just like you this was a big shock to me. I never heard of this riot and I never thought Canada had it in them to do a thing like this. It just shows you that peer pressure is a hell of a drug. Then again they throw a riot over a hockey game just like we do over a football or baseball or even a basketball game. -Godzilla012
I can believe these people can actually go out and wreck the town they live in, just because a team lost... The town is suffering even more now that they have to pay for all the wreckage caused by its citizens. I understand that being around people doing chaotic things, urges you to do the same, but I can not comprehend why you would give in to it. Who would even start ruining their own town in the first place?! You have to live their and deal with the mess. If pack mentality and group think are more explosively expressed with alcohol involved, why would people keep serving it at places like sports games? Take away one thing that would make everyone 100% accountable for their actions then arrest them all, or at least pay very heavy fines. Marley012
I had never heard of this riot as I am a minimal sports fan. However, I totally do not understand an event win or loss could push somebody so far over the edge to make them think it would be a good idea to push over cars and tear stuff up. I guess I would have to agree with the woman in the video who was saying there were people who came in already with the idea of destruction or bad influencing. So I can see if you put them in the mix to start then adding alcohol to take away others inhibitions gets the whole group think situation going. I think there were a lot more factors involved here then just the win or loss of this game. I also think even the ones who didn't participate in the actual destruction but instead egged on the ones who did are just as responsible for the riots because that just adds fuel to a fire. This was a great example of the group think and peer pressure.The one mention and shot of the group on the car just wanting pictures, they may not have done it and probably even know it was wrong but yet they want a pic to take back to their friends and show how "cool" they were. Deacon012
It is true. Die hard sports fans will do anything to get that attention to show what how anger they are for the game. I think it's that alcohol because they are not going to give a care in the world because they think they will get away with it. They might not when other citizens start to get hurt because of stupid acts of violence. BlackHawks012
This video is basically describing peer presser on much larger scale. It really sad that such large numbers of people can be influenced buy so few actual induvial that are acting like complete maniacs. It is kind of sad that you never hear about a large group of people getting mad and doing something good for this world like making a massive food donation of usable healthy foods that people would like to eat. Putting out large barrels that sort change in heavy populated areas to fight cancer in a year I bet if there were 50 barrels around just the Peoria area we would have at least $50,000 dollars. In Chillicothe the town raises about twenty thousand for fireworks every year. Too bad peer pressure is more likely to end on a bad note than a good note. The most influential person of a group is always the loudest but they do not always have the best intentions for the whole group. TAGTaylor33012
This shows irresponsibility of what appears to be mostly young folks. If people watching sports can’t control themselves then they should not be a sports man/women or going to sport events. Sport is all about treating winning and loosing equally. This mob seem like lost sanity and control. Serious punishment to these folks may teach some lesson. The need to have sense of what public property means and if they don’t already know, they have to be taught a lesson about public money by making them pay for everything they broke. Strong punishment is the only way to treat these morons. Putting their picture in a public websites and places is another good idea. I don’t think this should be blamed on their drinking, they are expected to have social responsibility when they are in public setup, if they don’t understand then they have to pay for the consequences – chichi012
This was a surprising video I did not expect this from our neighbors from the north. I thought they were all about beavers and maple syrup and peace. Canada is showing us that they can conform to the rest of the world I guess. Well I agree with the professor that beer sports and losing can make anyone go a little crazy. There was one thing that I noticed in the video. There was something that just about every rioter had in their hand. Just about every rioter had a phone in their hand recording themselves or their friends destroying something or beating someone up. People will do anything for the vine I guess but that's just the way our society is now a day. Everyone wants to be noticed everyone wants attention. The video also explained that its a big city no one knows who you are so you can do just about anything during that and no one would have noticed. Godzilla012
I mean it's true alcohol does have a big impacted on we act as a society because we have those certain people who take it to far because they are mad or just don't care. Basically wanting attention. When it comes to sports riots it just get's out of hand because it's the time people can get away with anything and if you have that one person who never gets in trouble and maybe had some drinks at the game and see's the riot going on and do you really think he will just walk away. No most likely not because he thinks he's going to get away with it. Sorry to say but it's not going to be the last because it is going to happen not just in our country but in other countries too. BlackHawks012
I noticed your tag is BlackHawks. As a person who is a fan of the team, how would you as an individual react to this happening in Chicago, if your team lost? (Hypothetically, you are at home, not in Chicago participating.) I can't imagine how the other fans of Vancouver's team must have felt to see their "community" or network of fans per say, acting in this way. It must have been embarrassing. -Jakku012
I agree people do things that they can get away with, and a lot of people are followers as well. I can understand people can get really mad and emotional about their team losing but what really does a riot slove? It ashame they are comfortable with being viewed this away. I'm sure these riots will on get worst. mommy012
I can see alcohol playing a major part on these riots, or any riots in general. I can also see why people would join in if they were not under the influence. I mean, you are doing things you do not normally do on a normal basis. You just don't come across a riot everyday. So I guess in a some sort of way it is having a "pack mentality" just simply because others are doing it and you want to be included as well. But I don't think during this anyone was thinking about the devastation it was going to cause people. The clean up, the dealing with insurance, and possibly losing so much money and having to close you're business down. But I have personally haven't been in a riot so I cannot really relate and give personal examples. -Ibanez012
This video used Vancouver as an example of unusual and uncontrolled human behavior. I experienced a similar situation following the 2014 World Series in San Francisco. After the final score was announced, you could hear the increasing 'buzz' of the city as the excitement spread. It wasn't a bad thing in the beginning, but the noise continued to increase at an eerie rate. When the noise reached a certain level, you could sense something bad was going to happen and it became very scary. By the time it was over, automobiles and a streetcar were on fire and some injuries were reported. When I started to sense the danger, I suggested we all go inside. I wasn't certain where it would end. I was also in Los Angeles when the verdict for Rodney King was announced. It was the day I was moving from Los Angeles to Illinois. I could see billowing smoke rising from the city and I couldn't figure out what was burning. It wasn't until several hours later when I heard talk of the riots that followed the release of the verdict. I couldn't have chosen a better day to be leaving THAT city. I haven't returned, since. The incident in San Francisco was the result of a good day for San Francisco; it began as a celebration and quickly turned into chaos! I can't imagine what might have happened if The Royals would have won the series! The Los Angeles incident was a riot that should have been expected. It ranks up there with the Ferguson riots/unrest. Innocent people lost their lives in Los Angeles. In both places, fires were set. I remember seeing the smoke; I'll never forget it. I wasn't in Vancouver, but I know what can happen when nearly any group begins to act as a mob. I really hope to not see similar behavior again. OICU8 012
You mix alcohol and sports together something is going to go down I don't care what anyone says. But usually in these types of situations when one does one thing another is going to follow. It's very interesting to see some people who wouldn't ever hurt a fly get involved in such violent behavior. This reminds me of what happened in furguson. When one thing happens it gets pushed into an even bigger situation that has no relation at all. Like that guy in the video said what does someone winning or loosing have to do withe the downtown and the people with the businesses. Why does something that has no relation involve into such huge correlation? -dicaprio012
It is interesting to think that not all rioters are like that outside of the riot. I'm sure a lot of people in those roots are actually nice people, they just got pushed too far by the pack. There is a lot of interesting psychology that goes into this.
The man in the video talking about the downtown businesses having nothing to do with the outcome of the game stood out to me too. It was unfair of anyone to destroy property that didn't belong to them. I don't understand why anyone would think that destruction is a good way to celebrate. It is scary how something like alcohol and strong emotions can have a ripple affect on such a large crowd. Hadrosaur012
Wow! There was a lot going on in such a short video. I think this video showed a very disturbing and disgusting side of humans. I wonder who was the first person to show destructive behavior. What personality trait does that person have that would posses them to tip over a port-a-potty...with someone in it?!!! Who would tip over someone's car and light it on fire? Why would other people follow these actions? I don't think alcohol can be blames for all of that destruction. I'm sure it made matters worse but I doubt all of those people were so drunk that they didn't realize what they were doing was wrong. This video also showed some stand up people. There were some citizens who were very embarrassed by the situation. I felt bad for the man talking about the downtown businesses having nothing to do with the games. I'm sure he was probably a store owner. Maybe his shop was one that had been destroyed. Who is going to pay for all of that to be cleaned up? It makes me very angry to see videos like this. I'm sure the people in this video are fine every other day of the year but they sure were acting like idiots on that day. Hadrosaur012
Mary Beth at the end said exactly the thoughts I was trying to conjure in my head. There are good group thinks and bad group thinks. I think our interaction in society as a whole depends on what the others around us are doing. "monkey see, monkey do" type of business. Do you remember awkward school dances when every one was just pacing around mingling, until one person went on the floor and started dancing? Before you knew it everyone was on the floor dancing. There were select few that still chose not to dance. Every one of these situations can be considered a positive or negative group think, and the ones who don't participate are kind of outside looking in. In Vancouver, it was entirely negative. They completely trashed the city over a sports event. There is a fine line between dedication and stupidity people! -Jakku012
This is something we've dealt with for long as I know of, even if we shouldn't be. We could be more prepared I suppose. I also suppose we should know better, but it still happens. I think being able to make the conscious decision to not participate in such things is a great show of character. Doing what is right over what everyone else is doing. It's hard to see all the people that were watching the few that were be destructive. Imagine the outcome if the good rallied around the bad and kept these peaceful. What if people decided to stand up and not let stupid people destroy their town? There really is more good people standing around not doing the bad when these things happen. Are they to blame as much as those busting out the windows? Maybe, but probably not. The dramatic, the bad, the outlandish, the unbelievable are always in the spotlight. The quiet, the good, the low key, the peaceful are usually not seen or heard. It's a shame that the bold is more associated with the bad and the timid is more associated with the good. Purple012
This clip was ridiculously unbelievable. The immaturity of this crowd is beyond disturbing. I won't settle to believe rioting and destroying a town is ever acceptable for any circumstances. What's being solved here? Where does "this has gone too far" come up in the mind of this ignorant crowd? This wildness all over a lost hokey game. I see no reason why anyone in this riot thought it was okay to start up this. There is so much more bigger things in the world that's happening and this is how they choose to represent themselves How sad and embarssing. mommy012
I have a feeling most of those involved were a little out of control due to the use of alcohol. Or at least I would like to think that to somewhat justify their downright awful behavior. These people completely lost sight of who they were, what they were doing, and why they were doing it. They stabbed and wounded other people, and burned others vehicles. They put businesses into financial trouble by breaking windows and property. They made a complete mockery of themselves and their team. All over what? Losing a game? There is so much psychology that goes into this subject and it's very interesting, and terrifying to see how heavily influenced human beings are by other humans. The pack mentality can be used for good, but with this case proving it, it can also be used for evil. It surprises me how the news didn't speak about how publicity may have affected the rioters. With cameras and newscasters publicizing their wrongdoings, the criminals may do more than originally anticipated for extra attention. I do not think it was very wise to record these acts and display them all over the news. -leafy012
I agree Group think can be used for something much more productive. Some of the people rioting weren't even under the influence of alcohol.The people who were completely sober are depending on the viewers to believe that they all weren't in their right minds at that point and time. That's so they don't have to take responsibility for their actions. Believe012
I agree Group think can be used for something much more productive. Some of the people rioting weren't even under the influence of alcohol.The people who were completely sober are depending on the viewers to believe that they all weren't in their right minds at that point and time. That's so they don't have to take responsibility for their actions. Believe012
It is interesting to see how people can lose their sense of self by putting on a uniform. This idea of anonymity promoting a loss of self awareness has been reinforced in several instances such as the zimbardo experiment. It is hard to imagine losing your sense of morality and fear in a crowd but I wouldnt really know unless I was involved. I agree with the newscasters statement that those who cheered are to blame as much as those who were active as they encouraged the mentality to continue. However if punishment was the question i think that those who actively participated are mostly to blame. Moot012
This riot was absolutely ridiculous.... there was no need for anyone to have acted that way. I agree with what the lady was saying about how the single minded ways or others and alcohol contributed to such dangerous actions. Individuals knew that it was not right and some people may have jumped in on the madness just because everyone else was doing it. This just goes to show you how ones actions can influence someone else. I understand that you wanted your teamto win but we are hurting, stabbing, and damaging poverty over a game. One big thing was the media for me. That could of possibly played a huge impact on the riot as well. With people there publicizing what they were doing only made things worse. Hopefully the people looking back on that situation realized they embarrassed there team and themselves. So a group can definitely have an impact on what others are doing but we cant blame everything on others we know at the end of the day what was right and what was wrong.Blue012
I'd seen this video once before and I thought that it was pure stupidity. I didn't understand why rioting after your favorite team loses would change the situation. But now I see that groupthink plays a huge part in this I guess the crowd thought since everyone was doing it that it was OK. Even though it wasn't, the psychologist brought up the point that when participating in something like this you could care less what people think or say about you. But my question is what do the rioters think about themselves? Don't they feel any shame about what they did? Or the things that they damaged and people they hurt? Believe012
I didn't know about this existed in 2006. People should be more responsible and behave with morals and ethical values that our country holds. But never the less we see how group of riots started small and just went on like everyone was having fun doing it. This tells you that the people you hang out with and your surroundings can influence such a change. However, as a society I will strive to make a change to those around me and hope for those around me to teach it to others. shakalaka012
I honestly think that this video do support the fact that peers urge you to act different. It doesn't make situation better when alcohol and drugs are involved because they seem to completely take over ones thinking process. Group thinking is very influential now a days and to think that if one was solo that this behavior might have not occurred. Pack mentality is just following a trend in a sense, but no one really think of the consequences that occurs after their wildest behavior. We need to start thinking and acting like adults and civil people. Start looking at our peers and determine do I have the right people around me? Pinky012
That’s a very interesting video! I can see how, during the riots, groupthink would have taken over and caused the rioters to behave negatively as one. This certainly demonstrates the important role that peers play within our everyday actions. While few of these people may have rioted on their own, the common bond created by the love of the sporting event (and infuriation at the loss) may have caused the throng to act and think as one and minimized the sense of personal responsibility and morality. This event also goes to show the dangerous chain events that the combination of a single-minded group and alcohol can result in. While this is not always the result of these two factors coming into conjunction, it may be wise for organizers of such events to take them into consideration when hiring security. Perhaps security at similar sports events should be trained on how to respond to a groupthinking riot. – Jung012
ReplyDeleteTheir behavior was pure common sense. They all knew better than that! If those people can not control themselves then they don't deserve to be in society. I do see how group think played it's part. Yet that is no excuse for the way these people acted. Completely made me sick! I love hockey so much and it's really sad seeing these people take the fun and joy out of it. VT012
DeleteVT, Yes people know better but they still do it anyway, almost like if you eat processed sugars or MCkie D's you know better but does that stop you? No. People can't always consciously control their behavior that would almost be impossible. Also we are always going to have people in our society that are like that, that's just how it has been and always will be. To say they don't deserve to be in society is a bit of a stretch don't you think? By no means am I defending them or their actions though. MuayThaiGuy012
DeleteI went to school in Chillicothe I know that on football game nights the majority of the police would be there within four blocks directing traffic and making sure everything went smoothly. That might be a good idea in these future events as well. Worst comes too worst there a few officers there to call for back up sooner to prevent that amount of damaged. TAGTaylor33012
DeleteI can see how groupthink could of taken over but we know what's right and what's wrong. I agree peers can have a negative impact on the way we act and behave today. With the consumption of alcohol and the love for there team losing did not help the situation but I don't think that it should of gotten out of hand as it did.Blue012
DeleteThis is absolutely ridiculous...what has this world come too? Starting a riot and destroying a town is never the solution to any problem. Of all things to riot about, losing a hockey game is definitely not a good excuse. These people don't deserve to win as the girl said if they are going to react like that. Sports are a privilege and they are fun to watch. Everyone has a different favorite team and that is what makes it fun. When you start a riot because you are upset you lost, well that is the worst case of bad sportsman ship you can have. People these days have completely lost all respect!!! Don't ruin the other teams victory because you team happened to lose. The other team I'm sure worked very hard to get there and have just as much of a right to win as Vancouver. VT012
ReplyDeleteSo here is my question what is more ridiculous, acting out like this over a sports game, or over someone getting killed by a police officer doing his or her job, protecting themselves and the lives of others? To me they are one in the same. The only persons with the right to act out (not riot) and be angry would be the players or people directly linked to the "victim" and even then one should not behave as an animal even though that's what we are basically, mammals. Yet I feel we have a dormant primitive nature inside of us and when others are in that pack mentality it triggers something inside us to join in. Sadly not every one can combat these urges. As a collective society we should be long past that but you can see it in the sport of hockey itself. Seven out of ten people wouldn't even be at a hockey game or like it if there wasn't some sort of violence. AKA checks and the throwing down of the gloves, so when you mix an already "violent" sport a drunk crowd and die hard fans the outcome was inevitable along with the out side factors of anarchists MuayThaiGuy012
DeleteSorry VT that wasn't my reply that was supposed to be my comment. MuayThaiGuy012
DeleteVT012, I absolutely agree with you on it being ridiculous. Pack mentality or not, I think that should only go so far too as an excuse. At some point you have to be able to know the difference and say to yourself this isn't right or its gone too far. I think people let emotions take over sometimes which is understandable if your thinking there was a bad play or call, but even with a pack mentality there's a big difference between yelling at a ref or player then going out in the street and turning over a car for justification. I guess I just can't wrap my head around people acting like animals. The alcohol was also a major contributor because some people just can't handle it or become totally different people with it. Deacon012
DeleteI agree that sports are a privilege. The town just made them prove that they weren't ready for a championship. If you can't be a better loser than why make your town a face for winning? Just my opinion, with that being said that's what happens when your under the influence of alcohol and decide to join on in the fun and look bad with your peers. Pinky012
DeleteSo here is my question what is more ridiculous, acting out like this over a sports game, or over someone getting killed by a police officer doing his or her job, protecting themselves and the lives of others? To me they are one in the same. The only persons with the right to act out (not riot) and be angry would be the players or people directly linked to the "victim" and even then one should not behave as an animal even though that's what we are basically, mammals. Yet I feel we have a dormant primitive nature inside of us and when others are in that pack mentality it triggers something inside us to join in. Sadly not every one can combat these urges. As a collective society we should be long past that but you can see it in the sport of hockey itself. Seven out of ten people wouldn't even be at a hockey game or like it if there wasn't some sort of violence. AKA checks and the throwing down of the gloves, so when you mix an already "violent" sport a drunk crowd and die hard fans the outcome was inevitable along with the out side factors of anarchists MuayThaiGuy012
ReplyDeleteI agree. How did this loss affect your life so badly that you decicded to set things on fire and flip over cars? At least in Ferguson, it was because someone had lost their life. It wasn't about a game. Albeit they had no right to do what they did either. But you're right, these actions made these people look like wild animals. Crown012
DeleteI agree with you as well! I do believe that the crowd at the hockey game acted like children throwing a fit. They had no reason to behave like that over a game. I do not think that all of the people rioting were that upset over their team losing. The pack mentality mentioned in the video, along with peer pressure caused the outbreak. I think it should have been handled sooner by the authorities, maybe if they did not let it escalate so high the stabbings could have been prevented. Storm012
DeleteI don’t understand the conformity concept, everyone in that video appears to be adult, when these type of things start, I wished someone immediately stopped them so that it wouldn’t spread. Taking advantage of large gathering and thinking that they wouldn’t be caught is bad mindset. Social responsibility is something should not be preached, everyone should have if they don’t then the law enforcement should take them to task - chichi012
DeleteA group of like minded people can be a very powerful thing. Whether good or bad, they have the power to make very bold statments. Im sure this was a spur of the moment group of like minded people. No one planned this or thought it through, they were just simply reacting to what others in their group were doing. With that many people involved, im sure most of them knew they probably weren't going to get in trouble for what was happening. Add some alcohol and an upsetting loss, and these people lose their minds. The things people will do to feel like they're a part of something. It would be interesting to see how the riot started, and from there how quickly it progressed and spread throughout the city. I would have been part of the other group that got the hell out of there, because this was rediculus. For what? A hockey game? No thanks. Crown012
ReplyDeleteI was wondering how it started as well. The news story seemed to acknowledge how it started but focused quite a bit on how it got worse. I just wonder if talking about how it began and the initial sparks that set it off, as well as the progression of intensity, would help to understand the whole situation. -Pasta012
DeleteI feel the group think in this particular situation,could have been completely avoided. There was no excuse for doing these things. The main thing I believe was wrong here was the people in general. If the ones who started the riot could have kept their heads on about a ridiculous sports game loss, this would not have happened. These kinds of people should not exist in civilized societies. Marley012
DeleteSelf-awareness can be the most useful thing in intense situations. If you slack off and don’t care or just forget who you are then what you do doesn’t matter anymore in your head, until the next day. Your self-awareness of the situation you are/were in doesn’t just go away, sooner or later it will come back. In this age of smartphones and social media it won’t stay hidden for very long. Personally I feel like this is something kids need to be taught in high school, even if it doesn’t sink in we can at least plant the seed of self-aware thought and begin a tendency to think before you act. Obviously with teenagers this may not have much of a point because of hormones and other influences, but not trying won’t help either. It only takes one mistake or one instant with a lack of insight to ruin your life or even something as small as a day. But we shouldn’t just wait for it to happen and say how dare you when we could try before the event even begins.-Pasta012
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree. Then you get alcohol, or anything, affecting your ability to control your own self-awareness and you have quite a bomb waiting to go off. Just as the psychologist was saying in the video we lose our inhibitions and everything just flies out the window it seems. Purple012
DeleteSelf-awareness is key in our every day functioning. If you lose that, you're wandering aimlessly not caring about other people or yourself. I think these people were much less aware due to their consumption of alcohol mixed with rage. I don't think you can teach self-awareness in school. It's something that has to grow and develop over time and happens at different periods for each person. -leafy012
DeleteI had never heard of the Vancouver riot before watching this video. I am very shocked that a riot consisting of burning cars, breaking in windows, and stabbing people all began just because of a hockey game. I am under the impression, from watching the short video, that a large amount of alcohol was consumed that night. I also believe that several people started acting out, and because of the pack mentality and the pressure to fit in (conformity), many more people joined in with the rioting. I do not think that the people rioting were worried about all of the damages and consequences of their actions because of the deindividualization that occurred prior to the rioting, also because of the pack mentality. This is just absolutely ridiculous to me. These are grown adults acting like wild animals over a hockey game. Throwing a fit because you lost something is child’s play. I do believe that all involved should be locked up for some time, have to do community service, and pay for all damages done.
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Just like you this was a big shock to me. I never heard of this riot and I never thought Canada had it in them to do a thing like this. It just shows you that peer pressure is a hell of a drug. Then again they throw a riot over a hockey game just like we do over a football or baseball or even a basketball game. -Godzilla012
DeleteI can believe these people can actually go out and wreck the town they live in, just because a team lost... The town is suffering even more now that they have to pay for all the wreckage caused by its citizens. I understand that being around people doing chaotic things, urges you to do the same, but I can not comprehend why you would give in to it. Who would even start ruining their own town in the first place?! You have to live their and deal with the mess. If pack mentality and group think are more explosively expressed with alcohol involved, why would people keep serving it at places like sports games? Take away one thing that would make everyone 100% accountable for their actions then arrest them all, or at least pay very heavy fines. Marley012
ReplyDeleteI had never heard of this riot as I am a minimal sports fan. However, I totally do not understand an event win or loss could push somebody so far over the edge to make them think it would be a good idea to push over cars and tear stuff up. I guess I would have to agree with the woman in the video who was saying there were people who came in already with the idea of destruction or bad influencing. So I can see if you put them in the mix to start then adding alcohol to take away others inhibitions gets the whole group think situation going. I think there were a lot more factors involved here then just the win or loss of this game. I also think even the ones who didn't participate in the actual destruction but instead egged on the ones who did are just as responsible for the riots because that just adds fuel to a fire. This was a great example of the group think and peer pressure.The one mention and shot of the group on the car just wanting pictures, they may not have done it and probably even know it was wrong but yet they want a pic to take back to their friends and show how "cool" they were. Deacon012
ReplyDeleteIt is true. Die hard sports fans will do anything to get that attention to show what how anger they are for the game. I think it's that alcohol because they are not going to give a care in the world because they think they will get away with it. They might not when other citizens start to get hurt because of stupid acts of violence. BlackHawks012
DeleteThis video is basically describing peer presser on much larger scale. It really sad that such large numbers of people can be influenced buy so few actual induvial that are acting like complete maniacs. It is kind of sad that you never hear about a large group of people getting mad and doing something good for this world like making a massive food donation of usable healthy foods that people would like to eat. Putting out large barrels that sort change in heavy populated areas to fight cancer in a year I bet if there were 50 barrels around just the Peoria area we would have at least $50,000 dollars. In Chillicothe the town raises about twenty thousand for fireworks every year. Too bad peer pressure is more likely to end on a bad note than a good note. The most influential person of a group is always the loudest but they do not always have the best intentions for the whole group. TAGTaylor33012
ReplyDeleteThis shows irresponsibility of what appears to be mostly young folks. If people watching sports can’t control themselves then they should not be a sports man/women or going to sport events. Sport is all about treating winning and loosing equally. This mob seem like lost sanity and control. Serious punishment to these folks may teach some lesson. The need to have sense of what public property means and if they don’t already know, they have to be taught a lesson about public money by making them pay for everything they broke. Strong punishment is the only way to treat these morons. Putting their picture in a public websites and places is another good idea. I don’t think this should be blamed on their drinking, they are expected to have social responsibility when they are in public setup, if they don’t understand then they have to pay for the consequences – chichi012
ReplyDeleteThis was a surprising video I did not expect this from our neighbors from the north. I thought they were all about beavers and maple syrup and peace. Canada is showing us that they can conform to the rest of the world I guess. Well I agree with the professor that beer sports and losing can make anyone go a little crazy. There was one thing that I noticed in the video. There was something that just about every rioter had in their hand. Just about every rioter had a phone in their hand recording themselves or their friends destroying something or beating someone up. People will do anything for the vine I guess but that's just the way our society is now a day. Everyone wants to be noticed everyone wants attention. The video also explained that its a big city no one knows who you are so you can do just about anything during that and no one would have noticed. Godzilla012
ReplyDeleteI mean it's true alcohol does have a big impacted on we act as a society because we have those certain people who take it to far because they are mad or just don't care. Basically wanting attention. When it comes to sports riots it just get's out of hand because it's the time people can get away with anything and if you have that one person who never gets in trouble and maybe had some drinks at the game and see's the riot going on and do you really think he will just walk away. No most likely not because he thinks he's going to get away with it. Sorry to say but it's not going to be the last because it is going to happen not just in our country but in other countries too. BlackHawks012
ReplyDeleteI noticed your tag is BlackHawks. As a person who is a fan of the team, how would you as an individual react to this happening in Chicago, if your team lost? (Hypothetically, you are at home, not in Chicago participating.) I can't imagine how the other fans of Vancouver's team must have felt to see their "community" or network of fans per say, acting in this way. It must have been embarrassing. -Jakku012
DeleteI agree people do things that they can get away with, and a lot of people are followers as well. I can understand people can get really mad and emotional about their team losing but what really does a riot slove? It ashame they are comfortable with being viewed this away. I'm sure these riots will on get worst.
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I can see alcohol playing a major part on these riots, or any riots in general. I can also see why people would join in if they were not under the influence. I mean, you are doing things you do not normally do on a normal basis. You just don't come across a riot everyday. So I guess in a some sort of way it is having a "pack mentality" just simply because others are doing it and you want to be included as well. But I don't think during this anyone was thinking about the devastation it was going to cause people. The clean up, the dealing with insurance, and possibly losing so much money and having to close you're business down. But I have personally haven't been in a riot so I cannot really relate and give personal examples.
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This video used Vancouver as an example of unusual and uncontrolled human behavior. I experienced a similar situation following the 2014 World Series in San Francisco. After the final score was announced, you could hear the increasing 'buzz' of the city as the excitement spread. It wasn't a bad thing in the beginning, but the noise continued to increase at an eerie rate. When the noise reached a certain level, you could sense something bad was going to happen and it became very scary. By the time it was over, automobiles and a streetcar were on fire and some injuries were reported. When I started to sense the danger, I suggested we all go inside. I wasn't certain where it would end.
ReplyDeleteI was also in Los Angeles when the verdict for Rodney King was announced. It was the day I was moving from Los Angeles to Illinois. I could see billowing smoke rising from the city and I couldn't figure out what was burning. It wasn't until several hours later when I heard talk of the riots that followed the release of the verdict. I couldn't have chosen a better day to be leaving THAT city. I haven't returned, since.
The incident in San Francisco was the result of a good day for San Francisco; it began as a celebration and quickly turned into chaos! I can't imagine what might have happened if The Royals would have won the series!
The Los Angeles incident was a riot that should have been expected. It ranks up there with the Ferguson riots/unrest. Innocent people lost their lives in Los Angeles. In both places, fires were set. I remember seeing the smoke; I'll never forget it. I wasn't in Vancouver, but I know what can happen when nearly any group begins to act as a mob. I really hope to not see similar behavior again.
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You mix alcohol and sports together something is going to go down I don't care what anyone says. But usually in these types of situations when one does one thing another is going to follow. It's very interesting to see some people who wouldn't ever hurt a fly get involved in such violent behavior. This reminds me of what happened in furguson. When one thing happens it gets pushed into an even bigger situation that has no relation at all. Like that guy in the video said what does someone winning or loosing have to do withe the downtown and the people with the businesses. Why does something that has no relation involve into such huge correlation? -dicaprio012
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to think that not all rioters are like that outside of the riot. I'm sure a lot of people in those roots are actually nice people, they just got pushed too far by the pack. There is a lot of interesting psychology that goes into this.
DeleteThe man in the video talking about the downtown businesses having nothing to do with the outcome of the game stood out to me too. It was unfair of anyone to destroy property that didn't belong to them. I don't understand why anyone would think that destruction is a good way to celebrate. It is scary how something like alcohol and strong emotions can have a ripple affect on such a large crowd. Hadrosaur012
ReplyDeleteWow! There was a lot going on in such a short video. I think this video showed a very disturbing and disgusting side of humans. I wonder who was the first person to show destructive behavior. What personality trait does that person have that would posses them to tip over a port-a-potty...with someone in it?!!! Who would tip over someone's car and light it on fire? Why would other people follow these actions? I don't think alcohol can be blames for all of that destruction. I'm sure it made matters worse but I doubt all of those people were so drunk that they didn't realize what they were doing was wrong. This video also showed some stand up people. There were some citizens who were very embarrassed by the situation. I felt bad for the man talking about the downtown businesses having nothing to do with the games. I'm sure he was probably a store owner. Maybe his shop was one that had been destroyed. Who is going to pay for all of that to be cleaned up? It makes me very angry to see videos like this. I'm sure the people in this video are fine every other day of the year but they sure were acting like idiots on that day. Hadrosaur012
ReplyDeleteMary Beth at the end said exactly the thoughts I was trying to conjure in my head. There are good group thinks and bad group thinks. I think our interaction in society as a whole depends on what the others around us are doing. "monkey see, monkey do" type of business. Do you remember awkward school dances when every one was just pacing around mingling, until one person went on the floor and started dancing? Before you knew it everyone was on the floor dancing. There were select few that still chose not to dance. Every one of these situations can be considered a positive or negative group think, and the ones who don't participate are kind of outside looking in. In Vancouver, it was entirely negative. They completely trashed the city over a sports event. There is a fine line between dedication and stupidity people! -Jakku012
ReplyDeleteThis is something we've dealt with for long as I know of, even if we shouldn't be. We could be more prepared I suppose. I also suppose we should know better, but it still happens. I think being able to make the conscious decision to not participate in such things is a great show of character. Doing what is right over what everyone else is doing. It's hard to see all the people that were watching the few that were be destructive. Imagine the outcome if the good rallied around the bad and kept these peaceful. What if people decided to stand up and not let stupid people destroy their town? There really is more good people standing around not doing the bad when these things happen. Are they to blame as much as those busting out the windows? Maybe, but probably not. The dramatic, the bad, the outlandish, the unbelievable are always in the spotlight. The quiet, the good, the low key, the peaceful are usually not seen or heard. It's a shame that the bold is more associated with the bad and the timid is more associated with the good. Purple012
ReplyDeleteThis clip was ridiculously unbelievable. The immaturity of this crowd is beyond disturbing. I won't settle to believe rioting and destroying a town is ever acceptable for any circumstances. What's being solved here? Where does "this has gone too far" come up in the mind of this ignorant crowd? This wildness all over a lost hokey game. I see no reason why anyone in this riot thought it was okay to start up this. There is so much more bigger things in the world that's happening and this is how they choose to represent themselves How sad and embarssing.
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I have a feeling most of those involved were a little out of control due to the use of alcohol. Or at least I would like to think that to somewhat justify their downright awful behavior. These people completely lost sight of who they were, what they were doing, and why they were doing it. They stabbed and wounded other people, and burned others vehicles. They put businesses into financial trouble by breaking windows and property. They made a complete mockery of themselves and their team. All over what? Losing a game? There is so much psychology that goes into this subject and it's very interesting, and terrifying to see how heavily influenced human beings are by other humans. The pack mentality can be used for good, but with this case proving it, it can also be used for evil. It surprises me how the news didn't speak about how publicity may have affected the rioters. With cameras and newscasters publicizing their wrongdoings, the criminals may do more than originally anticipated for extra attention. I do not think it was very wise to record these acts and display them all over the news. -leafy012
ReplyDeleteI agree Group think can be used for something much more productive. Some of the people rioting weren't even under the influence of alcohol.The people who were completely sober are depending on the viewers to believe that they all weren't in their right minds at that point and time. That's so they don't have to take responsibility for their actions. Believe012
DeleteI agree Group think can be used for something much more productive. Some of the people rioting weren't even under the influence of alcohol.The people who were completely sober are depending on the viewers to believe that they all weren't in their right minds at that point and time. That's so they don't have to take responsibility for their actions. Believe012
DeleteIt is interesting to see how people can lose their sense of self by putting on a uniform. This idea of anonymity promoting a loss of self awareness has been reinforced in several instances such as the zimbardo experiment. It is hard to imagine losing your sense of morality and fear in a crowd but I wouldnt really know unless I was involved. I agree with the newscasters statement that those who cheered are to blame as much as those who were active as they encouraged the mentality to continue. However if punishment was the question i think that those who actively participated are mostly to blame. Moot012
ReplyDeleteThis riot was absolutely ridiculous.... there was no need for anyone to have acted that way. I agree with what the lady was saying about how the single minded ways or others and alcohol contributed to such dangerous actions. Individuals knew that it was not right and some people may have jumped in on the madness just because everyone else was doing it. This just goes to show you how ones actions can influence someone else. I understand that you wanted your teamto win but we are hurting, stabbing, and damaging poverty over a game. One big thing was the media for me. That could of possibly played a huge impact on the riot as well. With people there publicizing what they were doing only made things worse. Hopefully the people looking back on that situation realized they embarrassed there team and themselves. So a group can definitely have an impact on what others are doing but we cant blame everything on others we know at the end of the day what was right and what was wrong.Blue012
ReplyDeleteI'd seen this video once before and I thought that it was pure stupidity. I didn't understand why rioting after your favorite team loses would change the situation. But now I see that groupthink plays a huge part in this I guess the crowd thought since everyone was doing it that it was OK. Even though it wasn't, the psychologist brought up the point that when participating in something like this you could care less what people think or say about you. But my question is what do the rioters think about themselves? Don't they feel any shame about what they did? Or the things that they damaged and people they hurt? Believe012
ReplyDeleteI didn't know about this existed in 2006. People should be more responsible and behave with morals and ethical values that our country holds. But never the less we see how group of riots started small and just went on like everyone was having fun doing it. This tells you that the people you hang out with and your surroundings can influence such a change. However, as a society I will strive to make a change to those around me and hope for those around me to teach it to others. shakalaka012
ReplyDeleteI honestly think that this video do support the fact that peers urge you to act different. It doesn't make situation better when alcohol and drugs are involved because they seem to completely take over ones thinking process. Group thinking is very influential now a days and to think that if one was solo that this behavior might have not occurred. Pack mentality is just following a trend in a sense, but no one really think of the consequences that occurs after their wildest behavior. We need to start thinking and acting like adults and civil people. Start looking at our peers and determine do I have the right people around me? Pinky012
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