Attica was an all out atrocity. Had it not been for the riots that came about on September 8th of 1971 far worse conditions could possibly have been lingering for years after. This applies not just for Attica but for prisons across the country. The Civil Rights era was the predecessor to what one interviewed man called a governmental 'push-back,' and many people were only arrested on grounds of opposing the government through new freedom movements. He stated it wasn't until he got to Attica that he realized that there were many issues of blatant racism inside. Even if their were grievances issued by prisoners before this riot, the odds are, as have been proved now, that racism and segregation were pushed harder by the prison's guards and staff. Racist doctors, no health care, one shower every two weeks, no due process, constant division and repression; these all proved that not a single soul in Attica had human rights. A planned riot led by the inmates, in my opinion had good intentions. The forktruck raised the gate and allowed them to reveal that they only wanted to share a list of 28 demands, directed at better medical care, to get rid of racist doctors, proper representation, and complete amnesty. Either way these forms were molded from cruel and unusual punishments and revealed an ongoing case for deliberate indifference. On the fourth day, the prisoners simply were given no choice. False information would be spread from the inside to the outside where state troopers were appointing guns with no traceability measures, the National Guard was taking the helm in a helicopter, and soon an announcement would give the rioters false hope. They were treated like the victims of a massive death-row firing squad, given reassurance and not a minute later, plowed down, and eviscerated with no remorse. The footage is proof enough that there were no Amendment issues to address, nor were there any attempts to promote justice. The firing squad lined that catwalks and the canisters were dropped to conceal any worries the troopers and National Guard had for any haunts that may linger over themselves during their remaining lives. Meanwhile the aftermath would haunt the survivors from that moment on. They were lined up naked to be processed back to holding cells while suffering more racial taunts; and later the state would still state that the violence was because of the violent activity taken towards hostages, which was not true, except in one case. This was a time where there really was no rights for prisoners, and I'm surprised that they even survived as long as they did under these conditions. This instance really did enforce future rights of prisoners everywhere, at the cost of those that I'll call martyrs, respectfully. The Meyers report (2013) would be asked to be re-examined for the public's eye. In its 3 volumes of 340 pages, revealing the amounts of abuse at the hand of the state, only one volume would be offered. The released volume would show 46 pages of material in total, and that was all the Supreme Court would allow. - StrongArm789
To me is sounds like the authority that ran the prison were not fit for the job. The prisoners held there under horrible conditions, these conditions almost remind me of a less harsh concentration camp. Most of the inmates being held there were treated unfairly. The riots that took place at Attica were a good thing I think. If these inmates wouldn't have spoke up and made these conditions clear to the rest of the country the prison would have remained the same. I don't understand how someone could treat people like they are nothing. The riots that took place were a rebellion amongst those who wanted equal treatment and those who were giving out punishment that was unnecessary. They were only given 1 shower every two weeks, in my opinion that right there is cruel and unusual punishment. These prisoners were institutionalized in the worst way, being treated like dirt and not being given what little rights they had. All the procedures that are suppose to be followed in a prison were thrown out the window in Attica. The prison guards wanted to kill the inmates on the day of the riots, They were given guns that nobody knew who had what gun so they couldn't trace it back to any of the officers. They were told to take off their nametags so they couldn't be traced back to the shootings. They fired 4500 rounds of ammunition at unarmed inmates that were already on the ground. They were also telling people to stand up and put their hands above their heads just to be sprayed down by prison guards and national guard members. I believe that this is the generation of police officers that can sit back and look at all of the problems and mistakes that have been made in the past and learn from them. KLICK789
At first I didn’t hear them right when they said they got 1 shower every two weeks and I was flabbergasted when I replayed it and confirmed that they said that. How did they ever get away with that, because it was clearly a cruel and unusual punishment for the prisoners. Birdman789
I agree with you that the prisoners were institutionalized terribly and fell victim to some cruel and unusual punishment, which is now unacceptable. Any human who was being treated that way should be expected to rebel, regardless of them being incarcerated. Once the guards took the riot into their own hands, they caused more damage than the inmates did during the riot, which is ridiculous. I think that Attica is a clear example of why it is so important that inmates have more rights than they used to. Cards789
I think that it was a fascinating video because it gave the prisoners that were there to talk about what they saw and what they experienced because no one else in the video had hands on experience in the prison or during the riot, except the man in the national guard but he had limited involvement. It sounded like a terrible place to be, they were only allowed to take a shower once every two weeks and the guards pinned the races against each other to keep power to them which just stirred up more tension inside the prison. I also think that the state troopers used excessive force when dealing with the inmates; they fired 4,500 rounds at the prisoners killing ones that were already on the ground and accidently killing some corrections officers in the process as well. Attica should have been closed down because of the cruel and unusual punishment it was giving the prisoners before the takeover and even more when it was taken over by the inmates. Birdman789
I agree with all the things you said almost. I think from the prisoners speaking to the cruel and unusual punishment used inside the prison itself. But I also think that the way the riot was handled was cruel and unusual punishment too because they didn’t care who they shot and how many they killed or injured. Jfl789
Attica what makes the place a horrible place to be? Well first the guards used the power given to them in a way that made the inmates feel like almost inhuman. The best examples of that are the toilet paper every two weeks and shower every two also. From this video it sounds like the only good thing, which is a slim sliver of good, is the impartialness of the guards. The former prisoners of Attica are an important testimony to how bad the prison was before the rebellion and the account of the take back of the prison by the government. The state troopers said that if you put up your hands and put down your weapons you will not be harmed and that were a complete lie. I believe that if you give an order especially one like that you have to follow it. And the fact that they ended up shooting 4,500 rounds in to the prison was cruel and unusual punishment. Especially when you had correctional officers in there who got caught in the crossfire. Not mentioning the prisoners themselves. And this is why that Attica should have been shut down after the rebellion. Jfl789
I agree with you that Attica should have been shut down for many reasons. The guards were taking advantage of the power they were given. They thought they could just treat the inmates how ever they wanted to. They often used excessive force with the inmates. I also agree on that the inmates often suffered cruel and unusual punishment while they were incarcerated. dragons789
I liked your angle on this video. I forgot the '4500 rounds of ammunition' statement in the video! Damn, that is a whole lot of ammunition. You can't tell me they weren't going for blood on this one. It trips me out just thinking about 4500 rounds. I'll shoot 350 mostly at a time. I would like to second that 'put your hands up and drop your weapons' shit. That is an issue of your word. That's supposed to mean something. Not just take away the guard of the man your trying to shoot. Doberman789
The video was interesting because it shows inmates who actually experienced Attica a chance to talk about their experiences. The guards took advantage of the power that they were given and miss treated the inmates. They only allowed the inmates to shower and get toilet paper once every two weeks. The treated the inmates in a way that made them feel like they were animals and didn't deserve the proper necessities for a healthy life. The prisoners got tired of all the miss treatment and decided to rebel against the guards. They used excessive force when dealing with the inmates. One example is when they fired 4,500 rounds into the crowd when that was not necessary to fire that many and they ended up killing inmates who were complying with the orders and also killing correctional officers. Attica should have been shut down after the rebellion due to the multiple uses of excessive force and for cruel and unusual punishment. dragons789
Even though the guards treated the inmates like animals, I am glad that they found a way to demand the respect they deserved. I know it was ill-fated but the reality is that this has to have changed the perspective of what the prison system really was. The public would get to see the footage and become appalled. I'm still at a loss for just how many rounds were fired blindly, dismembering hostage and prisoner alike. I hope this event is a highlight to any future discussions of prisoner rights, for both students and officials. - StrongArm789
I loved the fact that we got to hear stories from people that were actually there. This shows that even though they are prisoners you need to show respect to them they are human beings. The national guard just mowed those inmates down in the yard. Its such a shame that this happened but it should be a learning step. It was said that these demands set the way for the penal system for ten years after. -Godzilla789
This was a very interesting video. The Attica prison was the recipe for the perfect storm. The prison was filled with inmates from different backgrounds and each of them hate each other. Throw in the guards who are beating them up and abusing them and giving them less than the basic needs for survival. these inmates were treated like worse than dirt. After the riot started they brought in the national guard. These inmates were unarmed and they were gunned down like parasites. Not only were in inmates killed in the hail storm some of the correctional officers who were held captive were also killed in the gunfire. What happened those four days just shows that people can only take so much crap before they crack. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they are animals. Some inmates should be treated as such because they just are but its not everyone. -Godzilla789
This video was eye opening, especially after covering chapter 11 in class. Considering the conditions within Attica during the 1970's, I am surprised that they were not ordered to shut down. In chapter eleven, we learned about the court case Holt v Sarver (1970) when an entire institution was declared unconstitutional and forced to shut down. Attica seemed to have similar conditions to the ones that caused this Supreme Court decision. It makes sense that the Prisoners' Rights Era was beginning right around the time of the issues with Attica. The Prisoners' Rights Era lasted from 1970-1991. Attica's riot in 1971 when the inmates began making demands fits in with the time frame of the prisoners rights era. Based on the information gained in chapter eleven, prisoners currently have more rights because of the many Supreme Court cases that have determined certain rights necessary even for people who are incarcerated. For example, they have first amendment rights as long as it does not disturb the security of the prison. They also have more fourth amendment rights than they used to and there are much more regulations regarding cruel and unusual punishment (8th amendment) and medical care. Also, the prison conditions overall must be better than what they were in Attica in 1971. I think that although there are many changes that need to be made in the criminal justice system still, we have taken some steps in the right direction towards treating our incarcerated people the way they deserve to be treated as long as they are not threatening the security of the institution or people within the institution. Cards789
You can keep your 70’s era. We’re all stocked up on crazy here in the 2000’s. “as long as they created division they were able to control the jail” Carlos Roche, former Attica prisoner. Carlos is a wise man. Still today in our society as a whole this is the game that they play with us. Keeping us busy hating each other and fighting each other so that we can’t see what big government is doing. We are stronger as a whole, and that petrifies those in power. If they can set us up against each other then they can easily manipulate/control our society by segregating us. I know this might sound paranoid but I can’t help it. The Stanford Prison Experiment drops Aug. 14-20, 1971. Attica riots drop Sep. 9, 1971. Coincendence? ‘I think not!’ These separate events paint a picture of what the political/social culture of this time was like. Kent State National Guard shooting was in 1970. National Guard present and accounted for in Kent State (hitting 13, one paralyzed, killing 4!). That’s why I’m saying you couldn’t have paid me to live in the 70’s. The music though. The Criminal Justice system in the early 70’s I believe was mess after watching this video. Legislatively, executively, and judicially a mess. Was Nixon really that terrible? He was impeached. Maybe this riot was necessary to get some semblance of order or some basic human rights. Yep, I said it, human rights. Please, don’t strip others of their basic liberties in the course of reobtaining your own. These guys in the prison are prisoners so let’s call their rights ‘prisoner’s rights’. The Attica riot was a fight for basic prisoner’s rights. Through millennia we haven’t developed any new feeling or emotions. This riot was started out of anger, resentment, and revenge and then became a checker game for human rights, IMO. I read somewhere that 75% of prisoners at Attica were there on PLEA BARGAINS! O.o That tells me that some of Attica’s inmates are just guys chilling on low level offenses, etc. The 2,200 that were out banging were the bad guys who were locked up. They’re not a boy scout troop or a lofty band of do-gooders that are misunderstood, they are convicts. Their constitutional rights and fair treatment was paid for in blood that day. It was a massacre, like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Which exactly what they did. This is a mob mentality. Here comes the National Guard! Tell me the last time this ever turned out well. If you need some sandbags are need to get inside your school, it’s a good thing. If it’s the 70’s, RUN. They say the riots in Attica produced enough bloodshed for one day to compare to that of the Civil War days. American vs. American. People will do evil things if they believe they are being ordered or driven by a determinate force. Creating acts against our conscience and societies has happens for thousands of years. Holocaust, etc. The attack on the prison rebellion is no different. “what happens if you put good people in an evil place. Does the situation outside of you, the institution, come to control your behavior or do the things inside you, your attitude, your morality allow you to rise above a negative environment”, Professor Philip Zimbardo. S.P.E. was a simulated jail using students to play the role of inmates and gaurds. S.P.E. was an experiment in human behavior. S.P.E. felt accelerated to me due to the absence of guidelines and expectations. Attica on a large scale was like S.P.E. Abuse of power, violation of human rights, and working outside of the rules and regulations of the correctional facility. It doesn’t take a rocket science to see the wheels falling off of Attica. Society outside of Attica and S.P.E. were the same, they just locked it up and turned their heads. Doberman789 Much love to the Armed Forces, no disrespect.
I agree with you on this statement. I liked how you tied the stand ford prison experiment and the Attica prison riot together. I also think Phillip Zimbardo was inspired by the attica prison riot to conduct this experiment. I does tie in so closely with the riot. It showed how the guards thought and acted when they were put into a position of power. The prisoners were treated so unfairly that it caused a riot. Several unarmed prisoners were killed and even some guards will killed in the process. The fact that the prison tried to make it look like it wasn't the guards fault made the riot even worse.
This video was very interesting. I really liked how they had a prisoner from the riot and a guard from the riot. It showed how they were involved from each side of the story. Even the guard knew what they were doing was wrong. I wasn't surprised that the riot was basically caused by racial tensions. During this time like he said in the video, there were a lot of racial tensions because this took place only a few years after the civil rights movement. Most people still had a racist mentality and we still see that today. Its very sad that this riot happened because the prisoners weren't getting their basic necessities. 1 shower every 2 weeks, 1 roll of toilet paper, their human rights being avoided. This is just sad and terrible, even though these people are felons, they still deserve to have some rights.
Attica was an all out atrocity. Had it not been for the riots that came about on September 8th of 1971 far worse conditions could possibly have been lingering for years after. This applies not just for Attica but for prisons across the country. The Civil Rights era was the predecessor to what one interviewed man called a governmental 'push-back,' and many people were only arrested on grounds of opposing the government through new freedom movements. He stated it wasn't until he got to Attica that he realized that there were many issues of blatant racism inside. Even if their were grievances issued by prisoners before this riot, the odds are, as have been proved now, that racism and segregation were pushed harder by the prison's guards and staff. Racist doctors, no health care, one shower every two weeks, no due process, constant division and repression; these all proved that not a single soul in Attica had human rights. A planned riot led by the inmates, in my opinion had good intentions. The forktruck raised the gate and allowed them to reveal that they only wanted to share a list of 28 demands, directed at better medical care, to get rid of racist doctors, proper representation, and complete amnesty. Either way these forms were molded from cruel and unusual punishments and revealed an ongoing case for deliberate indifference. On the fourth day, the prisoners simply were given no choice. False information would be spread from the inside to the outside where state troopers were appointing guns with no traceability measures, the National Guard was taking the helm in a helicopter, and soon an announcement would give the rioters false hope. They were treated like the victims of a massive death-row firing squad, given reassurance and not a minute later, plowed down, and eviscerated with no remorse. The footage is proof enough that there were no Amendment issues to address, nor were there any attempts to promote justice. The firing squad lined that catwalks and the canisters were dropped to conceal any worries the troopers and National Guard had for any haunts that may linger over themselves during their remaining lives. Meanwhile the aftermath would haunt the survivors from that moment on. They were lined up naked to be processed back to holding cells while suffering more racial taunts; and later the state would still state that the violence was because of the violent activity taken towards hostages, which was not true, except in one case. This was a time where there really was no rights for prisoners, and I'm surprised that they even survived as long as they did under these conditions. This instance really did enforce future rights of prisoners everywhere, at the cost of those that I'll call martyrs, respectfully. The Meyers report (2013) would be asked to be re-examined for the public's eye. In its 3 volumes of 340 pages, revealing the amounts of abuse at the hand of the state, only one volume would be offered. The released volume would show 46 pages of material in total, and that was all the Supreme Court would allow. - StrongArm789
ReplyDeleteTo me is sounds like the authority that ran the prison were not fit for the job. The prisoners held there under horrible conditions, these conditions almost remind me of a less harsh concentration camp. Most of the inmates being held there were treated unfairly. The riots that took place at Attica were a good thing I think. If these inmates wouldn't have spoke up and made these conditions clear to the rest of the country the prison would have remained the same. I don't understand how someone could treat people like they are nothing. The riots that took place were a rebellion amongst those who wanted equal treatment and those who were giving out punishment that was unnecessary. They were only given 1 shower every two weeks, in my opinion that right there is cruel and unusual punishment. These prisoners were institutionalized in the worst way, being treated like dirt and not being given what little rights they had. All the procedures that are suppose to be followed in a prison were thrown out the window in Attica. The prison guards wanted to kill the inmates on the day of the riots, They were given guns that nobody knew who had what gun so they couldn't trace it back to any of the officers. They were told to take off their nametags so they couldn't be traced back to the shootings. They fired 4500 rounds of ammunition at unarmed inmates that were already on the ground. They were also telling people to stand up and put their hands above their heads just to be sprayed down by prison guards and national guard members. I believe that this is the generation of police officers that can sit back and look at all of the problems and mistakes that have been made in the past and learn from them.
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At first I didn’t hear them right when they said they got 1 shower every two weeks and I was flabbergasted when I replayed it and confirmed that they said that. How did they ever get away with that, because it was clearly a cruel and unusual punishment for the prisoners. Birdman789
DeleteI agree with you that the prisoners were institutionalized terribly and fell victim to some cruel and unusual punishment, which is now unacceptable. Any human who was being treated that way should be expected to rebel, regardless of them being incarcerated. Once the guards took the riot into their own hands, they caused more damage than the inmates did during the riot, which is ridiculous. I think that Attica is a clear example of why it is so important that inmates have more rights than they used to. Cards789
DeleteI think that it was a fascinating video because it gave the prisoners that were there to talk about what they saw and what they experienced because no one else in the video had hands on experience in the prison or during the riot, except the man in the national guard but he had limited involvement. It sounded like a terrible place to be, they were only allowed to take a shower once every two weeks and the guards pinned the races against each other to keep power to them which just stirred up more tension inside the prison. I also think that the state troopers used excessive force when dealing with the inmates; they fired 4,500 rounds at the prisoners killing ones that were already on the ground and accidently killing some corrections officers in the process as well. Attica should have been closed down because of the cruel and unusual punishment it was giving the prisoners before the takeover and even more when it was taken over by the inmates. Birdman789
ReplyDeleteI agree with all the things you said almost. I think from the prisoners speaking to the cruel and unusual punishment used inside the prison itself. But I also think that the way the riot was handled was cruel and unusual punishment too because they didn’t care who they shot and how many they killed or injured.
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Attica what makes the place a horrible place to be? Well first the guards used the power given to them in a way that made the inmates feel like almost inhuman. The best examples of that are the toilet paper every two weeks and shower every two also. From this video it sounds like the only good thing, which is a slim sliver of good, is the impartialness of the guards. The former prisoners of Attica are an important testimony to how bad the prison was before the rebellion and the account of the take back of the prison by the government. The state troopers said that if you put up your hands and put down your weapons you will not be harmed and that were a complete lie. I believe that if you give an order especially one like that you have to follow it. And the fact that they ended up shooting 4,500 rounds in to the prison was cruel and unusual punishment. Especially when you had correctional officers in there who got caught in the crossfire. Not mentioning the prisoners themselves. And this is why that Attica should have been shut down after the rebellion.
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I agree with you that Attica should have been shut down for many reasons. The guards were taking advantage of the power they were given. They thought they could just treat the inmates how ever they wanted to. They often used excessive force with the inmates. I also agree on that the inmates often suffered cruel and unusual punishment while they were incarcerated. dragons789
DeleteI liked your angle on this video. I forgot the '4500 rounds of ammunition' statement in the video! Damn, that is a whole lot of ammunition. You can't tell me they weren't going for blood on this one. It trips me out just thinking about 4500 rounds. I'll shoot 350 mostly at a time. I would like to second that 'put your hands up and drop your weapons' shit. That is an issue of your word. That's supposed to mean something. Not just take away the guard of the man your trying to shoot. Doberman789
DeleteThe video was interesting because it shows inmates who actually experienced Attica a chance to talk about their experiences. The guards took advantage of the power that they were given and miss treated the inmates. They only allowed the inmates to shower and get toilet paper once every two weeks. The treated the inmates in a way that made them feel like they were animals and didn't deserve the proper necessities for a healthy life. The prisoners got tired of all the miss treatment and decided to rebel against the guards. They used excessive force when dealing with the inmates. One example is when they fired 4,500 rounds into the crowd when that was not necessary to fire that many and they ended up killing inmates who were complying with the orders and also killing correctional officers. Attica should have been shut down after the rebellion due to the multiple uses of excessive force and for cruel and unusual punishment. dragons789
ReplyDeleteEven though the guards treated the inmates like animals, I am glad that they found a way to demand the respect they deserved. I know it was ill-fated but the reality is that this has to have changed the perspective of what the prison system really was. The public would get to see the footage and become appalled. I'm still at a loss for just how many rounds were fired blindly, dismembering hostage and prisoner alike. I hope this event is a highlight to any future discussions of prisoner rights, for both students and officials. - StrongArm789
DeleteI loved the fact that we got to hear stories from people that were actually there. This shows that even though they are prisoners you need to show respect to them they are human beings. The national guard just mowed those inmates down in the yard. Its such a shame that this happened but it should be a learning step. It was said that these demands set the way for the penal system for ten years after. -Godzilla789
DeleteThis was a very interesting video. The Attica prison was the recipe for the perfect storm. The prison was filled with inmates from different backgrounds and each of them hate each other. Throw in the guards who are beating them up and abusing them and giving them less than the basic needs for survival. these inmates were treated like worse than dirt. After the riot started they brought in the national guard. These inmates were unarmed and they were gunned down like parasites. Not only were in inmates killed in the hail storm some of the correctional officers who were held captive were also killed in the gunfire. What happened those four days just shows that people can only take so much crap before they crack. Just because they are inmates doesn't mean they are animals. Some inmates should be treated as such because they just are but its not everyone. -Godzilla789
ReplyDeleteThis video was eye opening, especially after covering chapter 11 in class. Considering the conditions within Attica during the 1970's, I am surprised that they were not ordered to shut down. In chapter eleven, we learned about the court case Holt v Sarver (1970) when an entire institution was declared unconstitutional and forced to shut down. Attica seemed to have similar conditions to the ones that caused this Supreme Court decision. It makes sense that the Prisoners' Rights Era was beginning right around the time of the issues with Attica. The Prisoners' Rights Era lasted from 1970-1991. Attica's riot in 1971 when the inmates began making demands fits in with the time frame of the prisoners rights era. Based on the information gained in chapter eleven, prisoners currently have more rights because of the many Supreme Court cases that have determined certain rights necessary even for people who are incarcerated. For example, they have first amendment rights as long as it does not disturb the security of the prison. They also have more fourth amendment rights than they used to and there are much more regulations regarding cruel and unusual punishment (8th amendment) and medical care. Also, the prison conditions overall must be better than what they were in Attica in 1971. I think that although there are many changes that need to be made in the criminal justice system still, we have taken some steps in the right direction towards treating our incarcerated people the way they deserve to be treated as long as they are not threatening the security of the institution or people within the institution. Cards789
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ReplyDeleteYou can keep your 70’s era. We’re all stocked up on crazy here in the 2000’s. “as long as they created division they were able to control the jail” Carlos Roche, former Attica prisoner. Carlos is a wise man. Still today in our society as a whole this is the game that they play with us. Keeping us busy hating each other and fighting each other so that we can’t see what big government is doing. We are stronger as a whole, and that petrifies those in power. If they can set us up against each other then they can easily manipulate/control our society by segregating us. I know this might sound paranoid but I can’t help it. The Stanford Prison Experiment drops Aug. 14-20, 1971. Attica riots drop Sep. 9, 1971. Coincendence? ‘I think not!’ These separate events paint a picture of what the political/social culture of this time was like. Kent State National Guard shooting was in 1970. National Guard present and accounted for in Kent State (hitting 13, one paralyzed, killing 4!). That’s why I’m saying you couldn’t have paid me to live in the 70’s. The music though. The Criminal Justice system in the early 70’s I believe was mess after watching this video. Legislatively, executively, and judicially a mess. Was Nixon really that terrible? He was impeached. Maybe this riot was necessary to get some semblance of order or some basic human rights. Yep, I said it, human rights. Please, don’t strip others of their basic liberties in the course of reobtaining your own. These guys in the prison are prisoners so let’s call their rights ‘prisoner’s rights’. The Attica riot was a fight for basic prisoner’s rights. Through millennia we haven’t developed any new feeling or emotions. This riot was started out of anger, resentment, and revenge and then became a checker game for human rights, IMO. I read somewhere that 75% of prisoners at Attica were there on PLEA BARGAINS! O.o That tells me that some of Attica’s inmates are just guys chilling on low level offenses, etc. The 2,200 that were out banging were the bad guys who were locked up. They’re not a boy scout troop or a lofty band of do-gooders that are misunderstood, they are convicts. Their constitutional rights and fair treatment was paid for in blood that day. It was a massacre, like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Which exactly what they did. This is a mob mentality. Here comes the National Guard! Tell me the last time this ever turned out well. If you need some sandbags are need to get inside your school, it’s a good thing. If it’s the 70’s, RUN. They say the riots in Attica produced enough bloodshed for one day to compare to that of the Civil War days. American vs. American. People will do evil things if they believe they are being ordered or driven by a determinate force. Creating acts against our conscience and societies has happens for thousands of years. Holocaust, etc. The attack on the prison rebellion is no different.
ReplyDelete“what happens if you put good people in an evil place. Does the situation outside of you, the institution, come to control your behavior or do the things inside you, your attitude, your morality allow you to rise above a negative environment”, Professor Philip Zimbardo. S.P.E. was a simulated jail using students to play the role of inmates and gaurds. S.P.E. was an experiment in human behavior. S.P.E. felt accelerated to me due to the absence of guidelines and expectations. Attica on a large scale was like S.P.E. Abuse of power, violation of human rights, and working outside of the rules and regulations of the correctional facility. It doesn’t take a rocket science to see the wheels falling off of Attica. Society outside of Attica and S.P.E. were the same, they just locked it up and turned their heads. Doberman789
Much love to the Armed Forces, no disrespect.
I agree with you on this statement. I liked how you tied the stand ford prison experiment and the Attica prison riot together. I also think Phillip Zimbardo was inspired by the attica prison riot to conduct this experiment. I does tie in so closely with the riot. It showed how the guards thought and acted when they were put into a position of power. The prisoners were treated so unfairly that it caused a riot. Several unarmed prisoners were killed and even some guards will killed in the process. The fact that the prison tried to make it look like it wasn't the guards fault made the riot even worse.
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This video was very interesting. I really liked how they had a prisoner from the riot and a guard from the riot. It showed how they were involved from each side of the story. Even the guard knew what they were doing was wrong. I wasn't surprised that the riot was basically caused by racial tensions. During this time like he said in the video, there were a lot of racial tensions because this took place only a few years after the civil rights movement. Most people still had a racist mentality and we still see that today. Its very sad that this riot happened because the prisoners weren't getting their basic necessities. 1 shower every 2 weeks, 1 roll of toilet paper, their human rights being avoided. This is just sad and terrible, even though these people are felons, they still deserve to have some rights.
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