They make some good points in this video. I'm all for letting some of the nonviolent drug offenders out of prison, but what about drug dealers? I don't really see that as a victimless crime. Also, when you talk about people who are in prison for dealing drugs you're talking about alot of them who are gang related and could potentially be violent even though they haven't been found guilty of it. In my opinion, dealing drugs is a lifestyle that usually includes gang affiliations, guns, and violence. They also made a good point about the deportation of illegal immigrants. It does seem rediculus to pay for them for a couple years before we send them off. That makes absolutely no sense. I liked the fact that they brought up thieves and scam artists like Bernie Madoff. To me, people like him definitely deserve to be in prison. There are plenty of victims to the crimes that these swindlers commit. White collar crimes like these, although nonviolent, still ruin many lives. The issue of private prisons needs to be crushed. It's very obvious that they are just another way for the rich to get richer while keeping people of lower socioeconomic staus down. They shouldn't be able to benefit from these prisoners misfortune and not even offer the slightest in rehabilitation. RustyPete003
You have a point about how people in prison for dealing drugs are in gangs and are violent, which they have the motive to commit assault, or murder under the influence of drugs. Not all drug users are considered violent nor gang related because some people are sentenced to 10 years for a controlled substance and have no relations to either of the circumstances. I agree with you one-hundred percent about the only motive for putting people in prisons is money, which it should only be to keep the criminals off the streets to prevent crime in society and keep the citizens safe from violence. -RW003
This video points out the truth and reality of how messed up The Correction System is in the United States. It just amazes me that in the contract for the Private Prisons, it states ninety percent of the prison beds are required to be filled, but if there not, the states still have to pay for the empty beds, which it comes out of the tax dollars and that money could go towards other things for the state. I didn't know they kept the illegal immigrants in prison for a few years until they decide to deport them, which it's just a waste of time and money to have them behind bars because they can be sent back to their country and the prisons would be less crowded. Also, they need to reduce the sentencing for the criminals, who are sent to prison for a gram of marijuana or any other drug on a ten year sentence. The only thing they need to focus on for drug users are rehabilitation. The real criminals are murderers and rapists because they are a danger and a threat to society and they deserve to be locked up behind bars for life because they're most likely to commit the same crime more than once. -RW003
There are a variety of reasons illegal immigrants are going to be incarcerated. Mainly because illegal entry is a crime and based on the number of attempts moves from a misdemeanor to felony offense. Secondly, before the immigrants get sentenced they have to move through the court and appellate court system, and if they cannot post bond then they will have to remain in jail as they await trial as any other offender would. As for people sent to prison for cannabis possession, I don't know how it works in other states, but under Illinois law possession is not an on the books crime until you have 2.5 grams and then its just a class C misdemeanor. It doesn't even become the lowest level of felony unless you are in possession of 30-500 grams under the Illinois cannabis control act, and that won't amount to more than a three year sentence maximum. CoolGuy003
There are a lot of very interesting points throughout this video. What really stood out to me was the section on private prisons. They said that they have to have private prisons filled to 90% or the government has to pay for those empty beds. Private prisons are a joke because they are not there to help the individual that I incarcerated they are there for the money. That is just ridiculous in my opinion. Also, that they keep illegal immigrants in prisons for up to two years before deporting them. This is a total waste of money and they should be deported immediately. People who have committed nonviolent crimes should not be sent to prison or jail. They should have to pay substantial fines which in turn will help the community and state. Prison should be made for the people who have committed violent crimes like murder and battery. The fact that over 6.9 million people are in the correctional system really surprised me. max003
I agree totally with you about being against private prisons. Its absolutely a waste of money and resources. I especially agree with you about imprisonment of immigrants. Because even though they got here illegally, I don't think they should be held in jail for a few years; here in the U.S.. That's exactly a waste of money that could be going to something else. Also the fact that 6.9 million people are in the correctional system actually doesn't surprise me at all. Because being the number country in the world to incarcerate people. I would expect it to be more.-K9003
While I agree that privately run prisons are not a good idea, I think it is important to note some of the misleading information given in this video. For example: in the video they gave the number of people being either in prison or on probation or parole as being in the ballpark of 6.9 million. That number seems staggering, but a quick visit to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=kfdetail&iid=487) website showed that in 2014 the number of people incarcerated in a prison only amounted to around 1.56 million. This is still a large number, but it also has large implications. It shows that the majority of people in the correctional wing of the criminal justice system are actually on probation or parole, which gives these people an excellent opportunity to be rehabilitated by being in contact with society. The video also pointed out that many of the people in prison were there for nonviolent drug offenses, another quick stop at the bureau (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/dofp12.pdf) showed that of the drug offenders in federal prison the overwhelming majority were there for drug trafficking, which indicates moving a huge amount of drugs for money, while the video made it sound like people were there because they may have had a few joints, it also shows that only around a third of the offenders had no criminal history, and roughly a quarter of all drug offenders had a weapon during the commission of the criminal act. I think that this video was good for its brevity and broad overview, but the statistics it gave were incredibly misleading and the pundits had an obvious bias that strayed from journalistic objectivity. I think that in the future it would help us as students grasp the problems faced in the field of corrections if we read through the boring and opinionated statistics. After all, if our focus is going to be on evidence based corrections, then shouldn't our data be based on actual empirical evidence and not a video trying to mislead us into being overly upset? CoolGuy003
I couldn't agree more with you because it's just ridiculous on how many people they keep in prison. Especially non drug violent offenders. I also have a another feeling that in the future that there will be more people incarcerated by the time we will be in our 30's or 40's. Plus people with no criminal history get more sentencing than someone who has a more criminal record. GoodVibes003
There are some good points in this video. Where it said in the first part of the video on how many people are actually incarcerated today including non-violent offenders was a little shock but at the same time it wasn't though. I mean if you think about it really it just comes to show that they are locking up people who are not even committing the bigger crime most of those people are committing drug crimes and are still in jail for more than 10 plus years. When she was mentioning about immigrants it really was kind of an eye opener and actually made me comprehend a little better. I mean we still have undocumented immigrants in this country today because they know if they get arrested for doing anything violent or whatever they will get deported back to their home country. I think that if they decide to keep the undocumented immigrants in prison for whatever how long it's only because they making money off of them. I think when she was talking about the whole how the money that goes to this private prisons and when it does the prison is playing the whole favoritism role like a bunch of 12 year old. Why would it matter who they pick to keep in there prison so they could just make more money off them then what they already have gotten from tax payer money. Honestly in the long run even of that prisoner is getting out they will always find a way to get back right in the prison so that the can make more money off of that prisoner. I think that the correctional system today will maybe be better down the road but I'm not holding my breathe because who will know what is coming into the corrections. GoodVibes003
I completely agree with you about the immigrants. In the CRJ system I always thought they got deported unless the committed a crime. I mean yes being in america without legal documents is a crime but its really not. But when yo say something about the prisoner will come back in the long run i think is an understatement because how can you just say a prisoner will be back, maybe they wont be maybe they can change their lives around or maybe something happened to them in prison to make them not want to come back so i believe you should open your mind up more on how you think of an inmates.
The points made here in this video, really are eye opening. Because the number one thing that really got my attention was imprisoning immigrants then deporting them years later. Another point was that "38 U.S. states are home to fewer people than live under the corrections system." Which is really a huge topic when it comes to incarcerating the wrong people. Speaking of incarceration the fact that 1/3 black males get arrested. Most of them probably got wrongfully convicted. But all in all I am totally against private prisons. Because for one its not helping people rehabilitate, secondly the reason they exists is the fact they just wont money. So that's my opinion on that matter.-K9003
I don't know that I would say those black people were wrongfully convicted, but It could reflect the fact that they are being profiled because alot of them reside in poorer neighborhoods where crime is more rampant. It might be harder for them to get away with things because some police already view them as suspects. RustyPete003
I enjoined watching this video. 6.9 million people in America are either in prison, on parole or and on probation. The crazy part is the number of people in/on prison, probation or parole, is higher then the second and third largest cites put together. In America we have all different kind of people and race. Undocumented immigrants go straight to prison if caught without their Visa. Immigrants are sent to prison before giving the opportunity to be deported. They get deported years after their incarceration. The justice system do it like that to make money off those inmates. "ITS LIKE WE HAVE 52 STATES". Because the prison beds have to be full at 90% of the time, we as tax payers have to pay for those empty beds even if its less then 90%. Priorites in the crj system are so messed up, we are suppose to have the element of rehabilitation but we do not the crj system just threw that out the window and they are making people sit in longer then they have to and they are more likely to commit more crimes and worse crimes because we do not have that resource for inmates. I agree with Ana Kasparian when she said jails should be reserved for violent criminals, because most of our prisons and jails are none violent criminals.
They make some good points in this video. I'm all for letting some of the nonviolent drug offenders out of prison, but what about drug dealers? I don't really see that as a victimless crime. Also, when you talk about people who are in prison for dealing drugs you're talking about alot of them who are gang related and could potentially be violent even though they haven't been found guilty of it. In my opinion, dealing drugs is a lifestyle that usually includes gang affiliations, guns, and violence. They also made a good point about the deportation of illegal immigrants. It does seem rediculus to pay for them for a couple years before we send them off. That makes absolutely no sense. I liked the fact that they brought up thieves and scam artists like Bernie Madoff. To me, people like him definitely deserve to be in prison. There are plenty of victims to the crimes that these swindlers commit. White collar crimes like these, although nonviolent, still ruin many lives. The issue of private prisons needs to be crushed. It's very obvious that they are just another way for the rich to get richer while keeping people of lower socioeconomic staus down. They shouldn't be able to benefit from these prisoners misfortune and not even offer the slightest in rehabilitation. RustyPete003
ReplyDeleteYou have a point about how people in prison for dealing drugs are in gangs and are violent, which they have the motive to commit assault, or murder under the influence of drugs. Not all drug users are considered violent nor gang related because some people are sentenced to 10 years for a controlled substance and have no relations to either of the circumstances. I agree with you one-hundred percent about the only motive for putting people in prisons is money, which it should only be to keep the criminals off the streets to prevent crime in society and keep the citizens safe from violence. -RW003
DeleteThis video points out the truth and reality of how messed up The Correction System is in the United States. It just amazes me that in the contract for the Private Prisons, it states ninety percent of the prison beds are required to be filled, but if there not, the states still have to pay for the empty beds, which it comes out of the tax dollars and that money could go towards other things for the state. I didn't know they kept the illegal immigrants in prison for a few years until they decide to deport them, which it's just a waste of time and money to have them behind bars because they can be sent back to their country and the prisons would be less crowded. Also, they need to reduce the sentencing for the criminals, who are sent to prison for a gram of marijuana or any other drug on a ten year sentence. The only thing they need to focus on for drug users are rehabilitation. The real criminals are murderers and rapists because they are a danger and a threat to society and they deserve to be locked up behind bars for life because they're most likely to commit the same crime more than once. -RW003
ReplyDeleteThere are a variety of reasons illegal immigrants are going to be incarcerated. Mainly because illegal entry is a crime and based on the number of attempts moves from a misdemeanor to felony offense. Secondly, before the immigrants get sentenced they have to move through the court and appellate court system, and if they cannot post bond then they will have to remain in jail as they await trial as any other offender would. As for people sent to prison for cannabis possession, I don't know how it works in other states, but under Illinois law possession is not an on the books crime until you have 2.5 grams and then its just a class C misdemeanor. It doesn't even become the lowest level of felony unless you are in possession of 30-500 grams under the Illinois cannabis control act, and that won't amount to more than a three year sentence maximum. CoolGuy003
DeleteThere are a lot of very interesting points throughout this video. What really stood out to me was the section on private prisons. They said that they have to have private prisons filled to 90% or the government has to pay for those empty beds. Private prisons are a joke because they are not there to help the individual that I incarcerated they are there for the money. That is just ridiculous in my opinion. Also, that they keep illegal immigrants in prisons for up to two years before deporting them. This is a total waste of money and they should be deported immediately. People who have committed nonviolent crimes should not be sent to prison or jail. They should have to pay substantial fines which in turn will help the community and state. Prison should be made for the people who have committed violent crimes like murder and battery. The fact that over 6.9 million people are in the correctional system really surprised me.
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I agree totally with you about being against private prisons. Its absolutely a waste of money and resources. I especially agree with you about imprisonment of immigrants. Because even though they got here illegally, I don't think they should be held in jail for a few years; here in the U.S.. That's exactly a waste of money that could be going to something else. Also the fact that 6.9 million people are in the correctional system actually doesn't surprise me at all. Because being the number country in the world to incarcerate people. I would expect it to be more.-K9003
DeleteWhile I agree that privately run prisons are not a good idea, I think it is important to note some of the misleading information given in this video. For example: in the video they gave the number of people being either in prison or on probation or parole as being in the ballpark of 6.9 million. That number seems staggering, but a quick visit to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=kfdetail&iid=487) website showed that in 2014 the number of people incarcerated in a prison only amounted to around 1.56 million. This is still a large number, but it also has large implications. It shows that the majority of people in the correctional wing of the criminal justice system are actually on probation or parole, which gives these people an excellent opportunity to be rehabilitated by being in contact with society. The video also pointed out that many of the people in prison were there for nonviolent drug offenses, another quick stop at the bureau (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/dofp12.pdf) showed that of the drug offenders in federal prison the overwhelming majority were there for drug trafficking, which indicates moving a huge amount of drugs for money, while the video made it sound like people were there because they may have had a few joints, it also shows that only around a third of the offenders had no criminal history, and roughly a quarter of all drug offenders had a weapon during the commission of the criminal act. I think that this video was good for its brevity and broad overview, but the statistics it gave were incredibly misleading and the pundits had an obvious bias that strayed from journalistic objectivity. I think that in the future it would help us as students grasp the problems faced in the field of corrections if we read through the boring and opinionated statistics. After all, if our focus is going to be on evidence based corrections, then shouldn't our data be based on actual empirical evidence and not a video trying to mislead us into being overly upset? CoolGuy003
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more with you because it's just ridiculous on how many people they keep in prison. Especially non drug violent offenders. I also have a another feeling that in the future that there will be more people incarcerated by the time we will be in our 30's or 40's. Plus people with no criminal history get more sentencing than someone who has a more criminal record. GoodVibes003
DeleteThere are some good points in this video. Where it said in the first part of the video on how many people are actually incarcerated today including non-violent offenders was a little shock but at the same time it wasn't though. I mean if you think about it really it just comes to show that they are locking up people who are not even committing the bigger crime most of those people are committing drug crimes and are still in jail for more than 10 plus years. When she was mentioning about immigrants it really was kind of an eye opener and actually made me comprehend a little better. I mean we still have undocumented immigrants in this country today because they know if they get arrested for doing anything violent or whatever they will get deported back to their home country. I think that if they decide to keep the undocumented immigrants in prison for whatever how long it's only because they making money off of them. I think when she was talking about the whole how the money that goes to this private prisons and when it does the prison is playing the whole favoritism role like a bunch of 12 year old. Why would it matter who they pick to keep in there prison so they could just make more money off them then what they already have gotten from tax payer money. Honestly in the long run even of that prisoner is getting out they will always find a way to get back right in the prison so that the can make more money off of that prisoner. I think that the correctional system today will maybe be better down the road but I'm not holding my breathe because who will know what is coming into the corrections. GoodVibes003
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you about the immigrants. In the CRJ system I always thought they got deported unless the committed a crime. I mean yes being in america without legal documents is a crime but its really not. But when yo say something about the prisoner will come back in the long run i think is an understatement because how can you just say a prisoner will be back, maybe they wont be maybe they can change their lives around or maybe something happened to them in prison to make them not want to come back so i believe you should open your mind up more on how you think of an inmates.
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The points made here in this video, really are eye opening. Because the number one thing that really got my attention was imprisoning immigrants then deporting them years later. Another point was that "38 U.S. states are home to fewer people than live under the corrections system." Which is really a huge topic when it comes to incarcerating the wrong people. Speaking of incarceration the fact that 1/3 black males get arrested. Most of them probably got wrongfully convicted. But all in all I am totally against private prisons. Because for one its not helping people rehabilitate, secondly the reason they exists is the fact they just wont money. So that's my opinion on that matter.-K9003
ReplyDeleteI don't know that I would say those black people were wrongfully convicted, but It could reflect the fact that they are being profiled because alot of them reside in poorer neighborhoods where crime is more rampant. It might be harder for them to get away with things because some police already view them as suspects. RustyPete003
ReplyDeleteI enjoined watching this video. 6.9 million people in America are either in prison, on parole or and on probation. The crazy part is the number of people in/on prison, probation or parole, is higher then the second and third largest cites put together. In America we have all different kind of people and race. Undocumented immigrants go straight to prison if caught without their Visa. Immigrants are sent to prison before giving the opportunity to be deported. They get deported years after their incarceration. The justice system do it like that to make money off those inmates. "ITS LIKE WE HAVE 52 STATES". Because the prison beds have to be full at 90% of the time, we as tax payers have to pay for those empty beds even if its less then 90%. Priorites in the crj system are so messed up, we are suppose to have the element of rehabilitation but we do not the crj system just threw that out the window and they are making people sit in longer then they have to and they are more likely to commit more crimes and worse crimes because we do not have that resource for inmates. I agree with Ana Kasparian when she said jails should be reserved for violent criminals, because most of our prisons and jails are none violent criminals.
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