Poverty and Delinquency...Causation or Correlation?


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  1. This video was very interesting. I don't think a lot of people understand or want to understand the underlining factors of what leads people to commit crimes. A lot of juveniles didn't wake up one day and decide "hey let's go rob this store." No. A lot of juveniles live in poverty stricken environments. Poverty is one of the major factors that leads into a life of crime. Most juveniles are surrounded by parents who are trying to make ends meet. Not only two parents but sometimes they live in one-parent homes. That alone puts a strain on a child, not have either mom or dad in the picture. But their parents are struggling to put food on the table or pay the cable bill ( if they even have that luxury). Juveniles see this type of behavior and some kids think.. Hey? Maybe if i go rob this store I could get some extra money.. and don't think about the consequences of their actions. That's just one idea thinking outside of the box. 55% of children are in the welfare system.. thats more than half! that number to be is tragic. Most of these children are just thrown away by their "families"and the people that are supposed to be there & love them. By these children not having that love & affection it also correlates into a life of crime. A lot of girls turn to a life of sex crimes. Lack of resources and means of transportation fails these juveniles as well. Most children living in inner-cities have to wait for the bus to get to school, or their jobs. Relying on city transportation is going to be faulty. It correlates into these juveniles dropping out of high school-the video said 40% of African American kids are kicked out of school-before they even enter high school! I think it's great we have people like Mary King who is working to divert juveniles away from crime. Having programs like "Nation Outside". Also it's great that Michigan is a state that allows former incarcerated people to vote. It makes them feel less "outed". Because felons already feel outcasted enough! All in all people need to realize juveniles will continue to go into a life of crime because of the social disorganization they deal with on a day-to-day basis. We need more programs and more people to step up and realize we can't solve crime over night. We may never solve crime, but we can definitely prevent crime. -dicaprio001

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    1. More than half of the juveniles live in a poverty stricken hardcore gang ridden environment. They re born into an environment that was made for criminals. They get treated like juveniles from the beginning. Mary King is trying to help these kids stay out of the system to give them a fighting chance so they don't end up behind bars. Godzilla001

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    2. I agree totally that people sometimes live in bad areas and that usually where gangs are located. I think there needs to be less gangs be taken off the street because they do nothing except for do bad stuff to people. Golfer001

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    3. I agree with you most people want to blame the person and just say their a bad kid they are just an example of what it means to be a rebellious person. We do need to fix the problem rathter then the people that builds unity which is stronger then rebellion. Eagle001

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    4. It is crazy to look at all of the underlying factors to delinquency and how poverty can influence it. I agree that living in a certain area can increase the likelihood of a juvenile to commit crimes because they don't have the resources that other kids and teenagers have that live in lower risk areas. Bike001

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  2. This is a very good video. The fact that 55% of the juveniles in the system are in some way involved with welfare. Like what Mary King said it does not mean that just because you are poor you are likely to end up in jail. It does not mean that poor people are more violent or don't know the different from right and wrong. Its the fact that people with money have the resources to get help they can in a way get away with it. Its stated that about 40% of kids are kicked out of school before high school. You are more likely to get kicked out of preschool than high school. how is that even a thing how are kids getting kicked out of preschool? These kids are getting dealt a crappy hand before they can even tie their own shoes. Mary king sees the problem and she is trying to break the pre school to prison pipeline. Godzilla001

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    1. I agree with you Godzilla001. It is crazy to even think children are being kicked out of preschool. They are stigmatizing these children for having behaviors of 3 or 4 year old's. Not stopping to think about how that may impact the future education of these kids. Instead of labeling children they need to be provided the resources to succeed. Otherwise this will continue to be a viscous never ending cycle in our poor communities in this country.mommy001

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    2. I agree with you. Mary King was right when she said that just because one is poor does not mean that they are likely to end up in jail. It is different on every person, how they are raised, who is in their life, and many other factors go into making a delinquent; not just poverty. It does no good in stigmatizing those around us that are less fortunate. what does help though is going out and trying to make a difference like Mary King is doing. agentp001

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  3. That is just crazy the prison population grew about 30 times more than Michigan's population. The way prison population is rising I think that most of the prisoners need to be moved to a different prison or need to be let go if they do some community service or a nice thing to help out in some way shape or form. There needs to be less poverty stricken homes but some are on the rise because the people can't take care of the house or them selves but its hard what they are going through like that and need to get help from the community and other place. If they also don't have a home they need to find some where to go for warmth at night during the winter so they don't get frost bite. Golfer001

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    1. The rapid growth in prison population verses the population of Michigan shows the harsh lifestyle that people within the state face on a daily bases. Programs that help to jump start families or improve the community help to prevent a lot of the factors that are causing these people to commit crimes. Eagle001

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  4. I really liked how Mary King said that just because people are poor doesn't mean they are criminals. So many people are of the mindset that poor people are all criminals. Most people in the inner cities are the "working poor," and doing all they can to get by. The reason there are more African Americans in the juvenile facilities and adult prisons is that they lack the resources to get there charges defered. So even though white children are using drugs and alcohol just like the black youth, the white children are inside their homes hidden from the view of law enforcement. The black kids are usually out in the open where they can be spotted by law enforcement and detained because of the drug and/or alcohol abuse. When the children do make it into the court system the white families are able to afford attorneys to represent their children. The black children are appointed a public defender who has a huge case load and is not going to be very concerned for the outcome and it's affect on said child. We continue to wstch our incarceration rates rise, when we could be spending the money on resources to cut down on incarceration rates. What are the poor communities supposed to do to survive if there aren't proper schools, homes, and a means of transportation to get to work. It only makes sense that when a person is stressed and lacking proper resources to care for themselves and their families that they will turn to crime. Places like Detroit are almost pushing the poor communities into crime. Mary King is working to combat these very serious issues that the citizens are facing in Detroit. The high percentage of African American children kicked out of preschool is outrageous. Now these children are being stigmatized before they are even able to tie their own shoes. As they move through the school system they will have already been labeled as delinquent, for exhibiting the behavior of a four year old child. Labeling these kids is not going to have a good outcome. Many of them will drop out of high school and just start the cycle all over again. Change has to start somewhere before our children are lost. So programs like the ones Mary King and her associates are trying to start in Michigan really need to be implemented all over the country. No place is immune from crime or poverty. mommy001

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  5. I agree just because your poor doesn't mean you do crime but i grew up in poor part of town seems like everyone was doing crime i dont know why that is i do think nicer school and more resources would help out big time but how do we get all these kids these resources i think free will plays in a big part of this i dont agree with labeling these kids already that's not fair to them i can see why alot of kids that are in juvenile prison are from well fair family's because usually alot of problem in the house because of money are what not so sometime the kid acts out this program they talk about sounds really good like it would really benefit some people but its trying to get people to buy into it and show up we need to try and get buffers around these kids at young ages try guild them find reouces for them to use give the kids from the low middle class or lower a chance without labeling them cowboys001

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  6. Program's that help to deal with the problem more then on the individual have a more profound impact on the community as a whole. The person to fit in what they believe city live is for juveniles is deemed as normal to them as they see that way of live as normal so as adults if we can create positive environments for beneficial programs for these people this has a better outcome for these Juveniles as a whole. I believe that if we give the poor juveniles a oppurinty to succeed then as adults we can establish a better commintiy as a whoel which will help prevent some crime not everything. Eagle001

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  7. First, I found it shocking that preschoolers are three times more likely to get kicked out of school than those that are in high school. One they are just kids, and they will act like kids. On the other hand, being poor is not a causation to crime. Not all people that are poor go out and commit crime; that is why it is a correlation. When people are poor, they cannot afford a ticket if given one. This leads them on to getting a warrant for their arrest. Others might go and sell drugs to make a living for a family, or even may steal to take care of their family. Spending more money on education and giving every child an equal opportunity in learning would help people grow up not poor. The poor do not get commit more crimes they just get caught more. They don’t have a place to smoke their weed other than outside, so they get caught. Middle class and higher usually have a house or a garage to do all their illegal activity. bamboo001

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    1. I agree that it is shocking that kids are more likely to be kicked out of Pre School than high school. It seems like that could have a negative effect on children, because thy will lose the opportunity to socialize with other children. It would be better to correct the children behavior at this young age rather than trying to deal with it later on. 7point62001

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  8. The correlation between poverty and delinquency is very interesting to look at. It is important to remember that poverty is correlated and is not a cause of crime. While research shows that people in different economic classes use drugs at about the same rate there are more poor juveniles are incarcerated for drug use. 55% of juveniles have been on child welfare. There are a couple possible explanations for this. First, these Juveniles are typical in urban areas and do not have places to hide their diluents acts. Kids that are a little better off my have their own bed room or a car to hid in, while poorer urban children are left to hid in parks, alleys, and behind buildings. Here they are more visible to the police, and more likely to be caught committing delinquent acts. A second factor to consider is that people with more money can afford better lawyers that can often get them diverted out of the system, and keep them from being incarcerated. People living in poverty often cannot afford an attorney, so they either represent them selves or have an attorney appointed to them by the state. 7point62001

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  9. this video talks about the correlation between poverty and delinquency. It does a great job in explaining why poverty is such a big factor as to those who become delinquent. In this video, the speakers do not talk down about those that are delinquent, but have a positive tone toward the subject. Most homes that live in poverty are broken homes, and not everyone has a stable person to look up to because the parents or adults are either off doing criminal things or they are out trying to make ends meet for their families. Whatever the case may be, it does play a big role in delinquency. I sort of found it shocking that preschoolers are a lot more likely to get kicked out of school than high schoolers are, but at the same time I am not. My nephew (my sister was in an abusive relationship and had to leave, so with divorce and all she was not making ends meet and had to move back home) has gotten kicked out of preschool many times, and had to go to many different schools. I believe this is because when it was most important, he did not have a good father figure there and because of certain circumstances, the financial situation was not all that great. People living in poverty are more often than not at a disadvantage all the time with lack of benefits, opportunities, and more. I do believe poverty influences a child's behavior and their pull toward delinquency. agentp001

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  10. Poverty is not a cause of crime, but the two are very strongly correlated. Poorer people tend to commit more crime because they don't have the resources to survive most of the time. If a family is poor then that means they don't have money, therefore they can't afford to get things they need like food. This means they have to steal the stuff that they need or do other illegal things to get what they need. I found it surprising that preschoolers are more likely to get kicked out of school than anybody else. Usually we think of preschoolers are kind and sweet little kids and we usually think that highschoolers get kicked out more. Poverty can make peoples lives completely different and they are at a huge disadvantage in society.

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  11. The fact that a little over half of the juveniles that committed a crime were a part of the welfare program really questions if poverty causes crime. But instead, it is just a correlation that is linked to committing crime. A lot of people do actually commit some kind of crime from day to day, sometimes without even realizing it or getting caught. The ones who do get caught and receive punishment, are typically lower class citizens. This is due to lack of resources. If an individual lacks the same resources as a wealthier person, they are more likely to commit a crime in order to survive. A wealthy person can hide in their mansion, dealing illegal drugs. While a less fortunate person who lives on the streets does not have tat luxury. They are forced to be on the streets, where it is easier to get caught for illegal acts. Resources in a persons life really plays a key role. Money is just about everything because it determines the way we act and live.b Bry001

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  12. This video does a good job of explaining about how a lack of resources can lead to a higher chance of conviction of crime. The woman who was explaining it talks about how people who have resources can better hide the crimes they are committing and can hire lawyers to help get them out with no convictions vs poor people who cant afford these resources to help them. This goes in line with the theory that a large percentage of the crimes committed now a days go un reported, a lot of the time this is because people have resources and they can hide the crimes they are committing and not get caught. She also goes into talking about restorative justice programs and how they are more beneficial to juveniles to help them not commit again vs just sending them to jail where they don't learn rehabilitation tactics. Bike001

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  13. This video does a great job of trying to explain to people who haven't lived in lower income neighborhoods that not all poor people are criminals. That not everyone who lives in lower income neighborhoods want to live their and that people are striving to do better for their families. It also makes the correlation that not just race but income plays a major role with crime. Dadoftwo001

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  14. I was disturbed by the preschool rate and have been trying to find where she got that information. I have a kindergarten aged child that is challenging at times and she can be a stubborn kid but we work through it and we are lucky to send her to catholic school where they work with her too. And I am not saying she is a bad kid at all she is actually pretty good but I cant imagine what some teachers do when they get frustrated they could just resort to kicking a kid out of school, which baffles me. I really am happy that I found this information because that is baffling that we would kick a preschool out of school and gaurauntee that child no options in life. Dadoftwo001

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