WAIVERS: Part 1: I think this video is presenting that the choices minors make often have consequences that they are either unaware of or think they are invincible to. This video also sends the message that you always need to think about what you do before you do it because you don’t always know what the outcome could be. I do believe, however, that keeping a juvenile delinquent in jail with adults is damaging to their mental state. Being put into such a horrible environment can be extremely shocking and frightening to a child. Everyone including minors makes mistakes and no one is perfect by any means. I do not believe it matters what kind of background you come from good, bad, rich, poor, big, or small whatever the case is you have done something "wrong" or made a mistake whether that be as an adult or a minor. I personally do not believe that murdering someone when you are a teenager is an act that you are doing not knowing that it is wrong or what the consequences are. But, I think that there are definitely times when kids should be tried as adults. Yes, they are kids, but when kids knowingly commit serious crimes, they need to face the consequences, and those consequences go beyond the juvenile justice system. In the video it was stated that most of the juveniles being put into this situation is because of property crimes and not so much violent crimes. One would think that if they are going to be treated as an adult for the crime then the crime must have been something horrid. I personally know a teenager that just recently got sentenced to 7 years in state prison on attempted murder charges because of a fight he had with his father. If someone had not stepped into their fight, the kid would be facing first degree murder for the death of his father. I don’t know how old this kid was, whether he was 15 or 16, but he was already on parole when this incident happened and now both his parents had restraining orders against him. His case got waived, from what I understand, to adult court, and in this instance, it’s pretty clear why. But, does that mean he will come out and regret his decisions? Most likely not. He had to have been messed up in the head to think the way he did and putting a mentally damaged person, let alone a kid, into a prison around larger, more dangerous criminals is only going to do more damage to that kids way of thinking and there’s a good chance he will not come out of this situation and have any chance of real rehabilitation. It is very easy to find excuses or reasons why you have committed a crime but in the end we all have to be held accountable for our actions.Sunshine123, Pack123, gh_blackhawks123, UofM123, SomethingProfound123
One reason many kids are being waived to court for property crimes is because the majority of crime from adults to minors are property crimes. Serious crimes like robbery, murder and so on don't always occur. And I agree that some minors may be just making the decision to do crime without knowing the consequences but some of them do and they continue to do crime. We need to keep these kids from doing crime period. And yes putting minors in adult jail may be damaging sometimes but sometimes they earn it to b put in there with the types of crimes they do and also today our minors have very little respect for authority. NDIrish123.
I totally agree, kids know what they do when they do it. There should not be a pass just because they are a young. Teenagers think they can just get away with anything because there young. No because they knew they were doing when they have a knife or a gun in their hands. You mentioned that a kid faces 7 years in prison because they got into a fight with his father and said that if anyone would have never got in between the fight the child would have been in prison for a murder. Teens like that knows what they are doing. The question is why do he feel like he has to argue with his parents? How did they raise him? The fact that the parents had to put restraining order on him was horrible. You can even control your own child. This topic seems very interesting because kids now what they do and nobody should feel bad for them. babyblue123
WAIVERS: Part 2: While watching the video provided in the blog on the topic of judicial waivers for juveniles in court, I learned many things about waivers and the way that they are used. Michele Deitch has been working on prison reform for over two decades and was prompted to do some research and delve deeper into the world of juveniles. More specifically, how often are children waived to adult court and how old are they when they are waived. In this video, the lady is talking about the innocence of kids and how they should not be waived into adult court, using techniques to victimize these children in a way, saying, “What were you doing at age 7? Playing with dolls? Skateboards? Learning addition in second grade? One day these kids are facing timeout for misbehavior, and the next day they are facing hard time.” The kids that get waived to adult court are not innocent young kids, they are not your average kid playing with dolls and riding a skateboard in the park as innocent as can be. The kids that are waived to adult court made a committed decision to commit crime in some form or fashion that the court deemed serious enough to waive them to adult court. The lady in the video is talking about 7-year-olds being waived to adult court, but there are very few occasions that this happens. She is emphasizing rehabilitation rather than incarceration for these juveniles, and I agree with that-partially. The 12 year old boy in this video I believe knew what he was doing. I also believe that there is more to it than just killing his grandparents. He had a bad reaction to medication but other questions like how was he being treated at home and why did he have so much hate towards family? Where were his parents? Not that any of these answers would be an acceptable excuse but a 12 year old does not just wake up and say "I'm going to kill someone today" there has to be something that led up to it. I do believe in second chances and that anyone can prove themselves when given the opportunity arises. To give a child such as this 12 year old 30 years without parole you could be doing more harm than good in the long run. Everything we do in life we learn from. Majority of the time it's our personal mistakes that we learn from. Now obviously some of our mistakes carry harsher consequences than others. One thing to think about is yes we all want second chances when we are standing in that position but when the roles are reversed and we are on the other side we want justice to be served. The part that surprised me the most would be the fact that one child was kept in isolation for years and not having the opportunity to interact with others or go outside. I can’t comprehend how bad that could affect a person mentally and physically. I find it the worst possible idea to just throw these children into a cell and expect them to become a better person that way. It is more important to me to have the children undergo a rehabilitation program in order to change their mindset and educate them on bettering themselves. Sunshine123, Pack123, gh_blackhawks123, UofM123, SomethingProfound123
No No NO. I feel like if a child has made up the decision to commit a crime, then yes they should be waived to adult court. Even though the child is still so young but they have still has made the mind up to do something illegal enough to be trialed as an adult. For what I am hearing the crime has had to be something serious, not just stealing a candy bar from the store. I did not watch the video but if the 12 year old boy got up to 30 years in prison then he had to have done a crime that was big enough to not get parole. Anything that happened to the 12 year old boy is all up to him. He made his bed and now he has to lie in it. I think the boy was trying to fit in with everyone else because he wouldn’t have done something just so bad on his own. I believe someone has had to be in his ear telling him what to do. Or, he was trying to prove himself. WS123
WAIVERS: Part 3: One of the most shocking things that she found out that I noticed is that in all the states, half of the cases involving children 12 and older were waived to adult court. This number is absolutely staggering to me, these kids are not even old enough to be in junior high yet, but they are being waived into the adult court system to be tried as an adult for their crime. Often times these juveniles who are going to adult court are facing sentences longer than they have been alive. Imagine being 12 years old and facing a 30-year sentence such as the child Michele talks about in her video. Some children of course are committing extremely horrible acts that they deserve to be treated as an adult. In the video she mentioned that a child was scared of attracting aids while in prison. This is just crazy to picture what might be going through a kids mind when he is put into a cell and forced to think about such scaring things. I couldn’t imagine how hard it is to keep a level mind while sitting in a tiny room thinking about everything in life. The child is going through everything in his life that he did wrong and mentally draining himself. Another one of the min points that Michele brings up in the video is the fact these kids will not be able to receive the type help that they need in the adult system, that they would receive in the juvenile system. The juvenile system is set up to be rehabilitation based with services for those with mental health issues and any other sort of issue so that way they can learn and grow into better adults. The adult system however is not set up for rehabilitation and is more set up for punishment as adults do not receive as many services to help them if any at all. Being put in an adult facility can be very damaging to a child. While we cannot excuse the crimes that these children have committed, we must find a way to help these kids out more than just locking them away with adults for more than half of their lives. We have to find a better alternative. I find the best way to protect and teach the juvenile delinquents is to lend them a helping hand. I think that if the court decides that the crime deserves time incarcerated, I think rehab should be included in that process. I don’t believe in simply tossing a 10, 12, or whatever age juvenile, into a cell and letting them fall apart and probably get worse as time goes on. I think if incarceration is deemed necessary, then they should decrease the amount of time and increase the amount of rehabilitation. I do not want to see kids struggling and having to go through the adult criminal justice system or the juvenile justice system, but sometimes there is only so much you can do. Sunshine123, Pack123, gh_blackhawks123, UofM123, SomethingProfound123
Hearing that in all the states half of the children who were under the age of twelve had their cases waived to adult court is ridiculous. I know that when I was younger I did some stupid stuff and we all have to learn from these mistakes, but sending them to adult court is not the way that we are going to make them learn. If we want to teach them a lesson we need to give them an opportunity if it is only their first offense. Now if these juveniles did some type of violent crime towards another individual, then I can see the case possibly being waived to adult court. We do not need to destroy the child's life if they did some crime that may not be as bad as we think and we do not need to public thinking the justice system is always going to be against them. Illini123
We were all children once, and we all made some bad choices while we were kids. That's just due to the fact that we did not fully understand the consequences that follow those actions.The same can be said for many juvenile delinquents. Sending children to the adult system is rarely the right thing to do, unless that child is in their late teens and their crime was pretty severe. Sending off to prison can be quite detrimental to their cognitive development because they are still kids and they are still developing. The juvenile system is definitely the best route for juvenile delinquents because they will get the rehabilitation treatment that they need to learn and move on from their foolish mistakes that they have made. That is not something they will receive being sent straight into the adult system. Gymlife123
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ReplyDeleteI think this video is presenting that the choices minors make often have consequences that they are either unaware of or think they are invincible to. This video also sends the message that you always need to think about what you do before you do it because you don’t always know what the outcome could be. I do believe, however, that keeping a juvenile delinquent in jail with adults is damaging to their mental state. Being put into such a horrible environment can be extremely shocking and frightening to a child. Everyone including minors makes mistakes and no one is perfect by any means. I do not believe it matters what kind of background you come from good, bad, rich, poor, big, or small whatever the case is you have done something "wrong" or made a mistake whether that be as an adult or a minor. I personally do not believe that murdering someone when you are a teenager is an act that you are doing not knowing that it is wrong or what the consequences are. But, I think that there are definitely times when kids should be tried as adults. Yes, they are kids, but when kids knowingly commit serious crimes, they need to face the consequences, and those consequences go beyond the juvenile justice system. In the video it was stated that most of the juveniles being put into this situation is because of property crimes and not so much violent crimes. One would think that if they are going to be treated as an adult for the crime then the crime must have been something horrid. I personally know a teenager that just recently got sentenced to 7 years in state prison on attempted murder charges because of a fight he had with his father. If someone had not stepped into their fight, the kid would be facing first degree murder for the death of his father. I don’t know how old this kid was, whether he was 15 or 16, but he was already on parole when this incident happened and now both his parents had restraining orders against him. His case got waived, from what I understand, to adult court, and in this instance, it’s pretty clear why. But, does that mean he will come out and regret his decisions? Most likely not. He had to have been messed up in the head to think the way he did and putting a mentally damaged person, let alone a kid, into a prison around larger, more dangerous criminals is only going to do more damage to that kids way of thinking and there’s a good chance he will not come out of this situation and have any chance of real rehabilitation. It is very easy to find excuses or reasons why you have committed a crime but in the end we all have to be held accountable for our actions.Sunshine123, Pack123, gh_blackhawks123, UofM123, SomethingProfound123
One reason many kids are being waived to court for property crimes is because the majority of crime from adults to minors are property crimes. Serious crimes like robbery, murder and so on don't always occur. And I agree that some minors may be just making the decision to do crime without knowing the consequences but some of them do and they continue to do crime. We need to keep these kids from doing crime period. And yes putting minors in adult jail may be damaging sometimes but sometimes they earn it to b put in there with the types of crimes they do and also today our minors have very little respect for authority. NDIrish123.
DeleteI totally agree, kids know what they do when they do it. There should not be a pass just because they are a young. Teenagers think they can just get away with anything because there young. No because they knew they were doing when they have a knife or a gun in their hands. You mentioned that a kid faces 7 years in prison because they got into a fight with his father and said that if anyone would have never got in between the fight the child would have been in prison for a murder. Teens like that knows what they are doing. The question is why do he feel like he has to argue with his parents? How did they raise him? The fact that the parents had to put restraining order on him was horrible. You can even control your own child. This topic seems very interesting because kids now what they do and nobody should feel bad for them. babyblue123
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ReplyDeleteWhile watching the video provided in the blog on the topic of judicial waivers for juveniles in court, I learned many things about waivers and the way that they are used. Michele Deitch has been working on prison reform for over two decades and was prompted to do some research and delve deeper into the world of juveniles. More specifically, how often are children waived to adult court and how old are they when they are waived. In this video, the lady is talking about the innocence of kids and how they should not be waived into adult court, using techniques to victimize these children in a way, saying, “What were you doing at age 7? Playing with dolls? Skateboards? Learning addition in second grade? One day these kids are facing timeout for misbehavior, and the next day they are facing hard time.” The kids that get waived to adult court are not innocent young kids, they are not your average kid playing with dolls and riding a skateboard in the park as innocent as can be. The kids that are waived to adult court made a committed decision to commit crime in some form or fashion that the court deemed serious enough to waive them to adult court. The lady in the video is talking about 7-year-olds being waived to adult court, but there are very few occasions that this happens. She is emphasizing rehabilitation rather than incarceration for these juveniles, and I agree with that-partially. The 12 year old boy in this video I believe knew what he was doing. I also believe that there is more to it than just killing his grandparents. He had a bad reaction to medication but other questions like how was he being treated at home and why did he have so much hate towards family? Where were his parents? Not that any of these answers would be an acceptable excuse but a 12 year old does not just wake up and say "I'm going to kill someone today" there has to be something that led up to it. I do believe in second chances and that anyone can prove themselves when given the opportunity arises. To give a child such as this 12 year old 30 years without parole you could be doing more harm than good in the long run. Everything we do in life we learn from. Majority of the time it's our personal mistakes that we learn from. Now obviously some of our mistakes carry harsher consequences than others. One thing to think about is yes we all want second chances when we are standing in that position but when the roles are reversed and we are on the other side we want justice to be served. The part that surprised me the most would be the fact that one child was kept in isolation for years and not having the opportunity to interact with others or go outside. I can’t comprehend how bad that could affect a person mentally and physically. I find it the worst possible idea to just throw these children into a cell and expect them to become a better person that way. It is more important to me to have the children undergo a rehabilitation program in order to change their mindset and educate them on bettering themselves. Sunshine123, Pack123, gh_blackhawks123, UofM123, SomethingProfound123
No No NO. I feel like if a child has made up the decision to commit a crime, then yes they should be waived to adult court. Even though the child is still so young but they have still has made the mind up to do something illegal enough to be trialed as an adult. For what I am hearing the crime has had to be something serious, not just stealing a candy bar from the store. I did not watch the video but if the 12 year old boy got up to 30 years in prison then he had to have done a crime that was big enough to not get parole. Anything that happened to the 12 year old boy is all up to him. He made his bed and now he has to lie in it. I think the boy was trying to fit in with everyone else because he wouldn’t have done something just so bad on his own. I believe someone has had to be in his ear telling him what to do. Or, he was trying to prove himself. WS123
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ReplyDeleteOne of the most shocking things that she found out that I noticed is that in all the states, half of the cases involving children 12 and older were waived to adult court. This number is absolutely staggering to me, these kids are not even old enough to be in junior high yet, but they are being waived into the adult court system to be tried as an adult for their crime. Often times these juveniles who are going to adult court are facing sentences longer than they have been alive. Imagine being 12 years old and facing a 30-year sentence such as the child Michele talks about in her video. Some children of course are committing extremely horrible acts that they deserve to be treated as an adult. In the video she mentioned that a child was scared of attracting aids while in prison. This is just crazy to picture what might be going through a kids mind when he is put into a cell and forced to think about such scaring things. I couldn’t imagine how hard it is to keep a level mind while sitting in a tiny room thinking about everything in life. The child is going through everything in his life that he did wrong and mentally draining himself. Another one of the min points that Michele brings up in the video is the fact these kids will not be able to receive the type help that they need in the adult system, that they would receive in the juvenile system. The juvenile system is set up to be rehabilitation based with services for those with mental health issues and any other sort of issue so that way they can learn and grow into better adults. The adult system however is not set up for rehabilitation and is more set up for punishment as adults do not receive as many services to help them if any at all. Being put in an adult facility can be very damaging to a child. While we cannot excuse the crimes that these children have committed, we must find a way to help these kids out more than just locking them away with adults for more than half of their lives. We have to find a better alternative. I find the best way to protect and teach the juvenile delinquents is to lend them a helping hand. I think that if the court decides that the crime deserves time incarcerated, I think rehab should be included in that process. I don’t believe in simply tossing a 10, 12, or whatever age juvenile, into a cell and letting them fall apart and probably get worse as time goes on. I think if incarceration is deemed necessary, then they should decrease the amount of time and increase the amount of rehabilitation. I do not want to see kids struggling and having to go through the adult criminal justice system or the juvenile justice system, but sometimes there is only so much you can do. Sunshine123, Pack123, gh_blackhawks123, UofM123, SomethingProfound123
Hearing that in all the states half of the children who were under the age of twelve had their cases waived to adult court is ridiculous. I know that when I was younger I did some stupid stuff and we all have to learn from these mistakes, but sending them to adult court is not the way that we are going to make them learn. If we want to teach them a lesson we need to give them an opportunity if it is only their first offense. Now if these juveniles did some type of violent crime towards another individual, then I can see the case possibly being waived to adult court. We do not need to destroy the child's life if they did some crime that may not be as bad as we think and we do not need to public thinking the justice system is always going to be against them.
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We were all children once, and we all made some bad choices while we were kids. That's just due to the fact that we did not fully understand the consequences that follow those actions.The same can be said for many juvenile delinquents. Sending children to the adult system is rarely the right thing to do, unless that child is in their late teens and their crime was pretty severe. Sending off to prison can be quite detrimental to their cognitive development because they are still kids and they are still developing. The juvenile system is definitely the best route for juvenile delinquents because they will get the rehabilitation treatment that they need to learn and move on from their foolish mistakes that they have made. That is not something they will receive being sent straight into the adult system. Gymlife123
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