He states, “You think of yourself a colored man, I think of myself a man” I feel like this means he sees himself as equal to people who are not colored. He does not segregate himself from other people. He considers himself a man, not a man of color or wealth or anything of the sort to put him into a stereotype. The man does not discriminate, or is prejudice, or racist his own people he just sees himself equal to everyone. He is trying to make this point to his father as his father experiences culture shock. He tells his father he has no right to tell him what he can or cannot do and that his father did what he was supposed to do to raise him. He does not want to live his life according to his father rules, he is his own man. in his father eyes his son is being deviant. His belief is his father and his whole generation believe that because it was the way it was for them that is the way it is supposed to be for him. That is what the norm is supposed to be, that is a social structure, and the man is saying no he will live his life the way he feels is right. His father’s values and his values are different in this situation. The man is a multiculturalist and he think his father wouldn’t understand it. The man’s personality and views show a yearning for equality and the people holding society back from accomplishing that are people like his father. -Slimjim789
As one can guess, the statement of this video is a strong one. Throughout its entirety, the concept of age stratification is tackled alongside elements of social change occurring as a whole cohort of the previous generation begins to effectively enter a state of disengagement. This cohort maintains a culture that declares the way of segregation as the only way to live, that race is, and should be, an important status. Dr. Prentice, as a member of a new generation, can see a different future, one where a person’s status set does not include ascribed statuses of race, one where your race is not a master status. Dr. Prentice points out that his father was simply following the expectations of his role as a father, and that he cannot live in debt to someone who only did what they were supposed to do. Further, Prentice states that despite his father’s claims that he does not want to tell Prentice how to live, his perpetuation of segregationally charged culture is the same as trying to control his son’s life. Prentice goes as far to say that the cultural beliefs that his father holds will only die when his generation does, potentially alluding to the fact that the only reason that the discrimination and segregation exists is because of cultural transmission of a long dead culture, stubbornly maintaining its hold through cultural lag. The many statements that Prentice makes to his father are painful truths of the status sets and role sets of a dying generation. Even after such cruel statements, Prentice chooses to love his father as the man who socialized and raised him to be the successful man that he is. Then comes the powerful statement, “You think of yourself as a colored man, I think of myself as a man.” Prentice states the nature of his father’s master status as a black man, as he chooses to accept it, while Prentice states that, while he may have the same status, he does not recognize it as significant enough to describe who he is.
This clip shows a lot of our lives and the issues we deal with old generations causing ageism. The older generation doesn't want the world to change. So for them its hard to see how the new generation does things. Dr. Prentice's father was around when segregation was still a thing. The statement you consider yourself a colored man has to do with the generation he came from. Dr. Prentice explains his father you have taught me live but I live like a man not a colored man. He realizes his future wife and his children will deal with discrimination and racism. As he states that's the choice his father chose to bring his into society so it was his responsibility to take care of him. Nobody in this world gets to chose their sex, gender, or race. In this generation you can change these things but you are not able to choose at birth. Everybody has to live as a person not by their appearance. Dr.Prentice had to tell his father the truth on how his generation believes what he is doing is deviant, but its not and the new generation will not be freed til the old generation are dead and buried. Social stratification changes with very generation. Dr. Prentice does not see himself as a colored man and so do many men in his generation. He has became what he is not because he is black but because he didn't let him being black hold him back from being everything he could. From his fathers point of view being a black man in his generation you didn't have many opportunities as a colored man. His father can't see how it has changed. How its alright for a colored man to be married to a white woman. He's not thinking about his son's feelings simply what will society think or how society will treat his son and how he wants his son to listen to him because he believes he knows what is best. -Gander789
Dr. Prentice grew up in a working-class family. His father was a mail carrier for over thirty years who worked hard, provided for his family, and payed for Dr. Prentice schooling. Sr. Prentice believed that since he put Dr. Prentice through school, he was to conform by conventional norms and respect his authority. With his schooling Dr. Prentice gained an achieved status and occupational prestige. Dr. Prentice had an upward intergenerational social mobility. Although he earned this social status, through meritocracy, his father worried that his ascribed status, being born African-American will bring about a latent function of how members of society will treat him if he were to marry outside his race. Dr. Prentice believed his father wanted him to live his life according his father’s rules. Although society was accepting the concept of interracial marriage. His father’s generation had a cultural lag in believing that the way it is, is the way it should be. George Herbert Mead’s theory of social behaviorism comes into play. With Dr. Prentices social experiences and social interaction, he developed a self-image that he was a man. He became successful and earned a lifetime of accomplishments. He was passionate about being equality. He said his father identified, based on Charles Horton Cooley term looking-glass self, himself as a colored man. By adding the word colored in front of the word man that associates negativity and stigmatizes his father. His father created a master status of being a colored man. Sr. Prentice had success and lived the American Dream but sees himself the way he believes the world sees him as just a colored man facing social inequality no matter what social position he held. He lived during a period where it was the law that blacks could not socialize with whites let alone date or get married. Dr. Prentice conformed postconventional norms when he fell in love with a woman from a different race. Neither him or Joey saw black and white, they saw the color red. They were willing to be married regardless of the problems or issue they and their children would face. Although segregation laws were prohibited, I believe interracial marriages face prejudice and discrimination even in today’s societies. Because of the socialization process of some members of society, implicit biases and racial injustice will always exist. It does not matter what an individual’s social class, or prestige is, society will always see color first. Granny 789
There are a lot of different elements to this video. First you see the element of age stratification. Dr. Prentice’s age group, or cohort, is part of this social change movement when it comes to race, marriage, and equality. He has different privileges than his father did when he was the same age. Men have a justice perspective when it comes to seeing right and wrong, Carol Gilligan suggests. His dad followed the laws that governed his life and marriage and those were his guidelines for moral rightness. The laws did not change until two years before the movie, in 1967; his father had no time to adjust to the changing laws and regulations. Meaning, his morals reflected the laws that were in place for so long and he could not change those so quickly. Another element you see in this video is socialization. Other than the laws, his father had learned, through “nurture,” to feel and act the way he does. His generation, as touched on by Dr. Prentice and seen in the film when comparing the two fathers, is fairly similar throughout. They are “set in their ways,” resistant to change. There learned behaviors and feelings become part of their personality, which also is shown to be pretty static throughout one’s life. The doctors family, peer groups, and the mass media continued to further engrain these thoughts into Mr. Prentice (the father). Another element to the video, probably the most prevalent, is race and culture. Culture theory claims that prejudice is rooted in culture. There is a cultural lag seen between the way Mr. Prentice’s generation views change versus actual change in laws and attitudes. The laws are changing before their beliefs and prejudices can change. You see a display of this when Dr. Prentice explains that Mr. Prentice “sees himself as a colored man” instead of just a man.
In this clip the father is trying to dictate how the son is going to live his life and make his choices. His father is still having cultural lag because he is used to the way things were in his time. Although I disagree with the way the son handled his response to the father, he made a solid point and showed what the new society is becoming. The son is representing a generation where everything is changing and everything is different. Racial equality was becoming a reality. The amount of power and emotion that the son had in this argument showed that the new generation is strong and more independent. He not only wants equality in race, but in class and age. He is removing ageism and racism all in one with this argument. The way his son handled the situation could have been different. He showed his father that he means business, he is an adult now, and he is not going let others control him. He does not see himself as a colored man, He sees himself as a man and he is explaining to his father that this is the way it is going to be from now on in the house and in society. The son and father are being put through role conflict in this situation, because they both are pieces of a minority role and a family role. Sociologically this is proving the change in the United States in this time. Many younger generation Americans are much more assertive. The way that the son handled the conclusion to his argument also applies to role conflict. He is being a son and not a part in society. In a broad way, he was telling his father change is here. Also in this scene the father is displaying a general amount of patriarchy. The father is trying to control his son’s life and decisions. This can’t be blamed specifically on the father. This is mostly to blame on his generation. They were brought up in a way that shaped their minds to think that “the man of the house” is in charge.
This scene is one of the most memorable scenes from the movie that will be difficult to forget. It is a very intense discussion between a father and his son. The father, Mr. Prentice is thirty years older than his son is so they both grew up in different eras and they learned different ways that society reacts to certain situations. His father grew up in a working-class family which is a social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially manual or industrial work. Mr. Prentice worked as a mail man but still managed to get the support he needed to take care of his wife and child. He was able to get his son the education he needed. But John’s point is that he did it because he was supposed to. It is the parent’s job to do what they are supposed to in order to get their kids what they need. He goes on to say that his father sees himself as a colored man but John sees himself as just a man. Social inequality has been changing decade by decade and it is difficult to say how it will be like in the future. But at that moment, society is at the point where it’s not completely terrible to have an interracial relationship anymore. The way people view social stratification is changing as well. It changes with every generation, which is why everyone feels differently about occurring issues depending on the age difference. Social stratification is the kind of social differentiation whereby a society groups people into socioeconomic strata, based upon their occupation and income. Racism is nothing like it used to be. Does it still exist today? But it has changed like a lot of other issues. The two fathers have a difficult time with this because of ageism. They are prejudice and discriminating based on their age and what they grew up in. Social change occurs everywhere and so it makes it hard to understand what is happening and how to deal with social interaction. This is why the father is having a bad time with his son in understanding the situation. Schmidt789
In this clip, Dr. Prentice’s father has worked for 30 years as a mail man just to provide for his wife and son. He is used to the way things were in his generation were there was major segregation between white people and black people. He wanted to keep Dr. Prentice to stay under his care, because he thought he owed him something for taking care of him, paying his school fees, etc. but that was his duty as a father, because back then, men were the head of the house, they were expected to provide for the family and had more job opportunities than a woman would although he African American. But Dr. Prentice stood up for himself saying he did not owe anything to his father, he was the one who brought him to this world so it was his job to take care of him and provide for him as a father, he would do the exact same thing if he had his kids as well. Older generations seem to want the future to stay the same because it would not be hard to adapt to it rather than learning the new things that the young generations are into. In the title it asks “do you consider yourself a colored man” it relates to not seeing past your own view as being black or white because of how African American were treated. So when he wanted his son wanted to have a miscegenation marriage, he could not understand why his son would marry a white girl after how the African American were treated, with unequal rights, less opportunities of jobs. This was age stratification, the older you are the superior you feel over someone who is young, in this case that is how Dr. Prentice’s father felt. Dr. Prentice didn’t seem to discriminate, segregate and racism to white people because in his eyes he thought they were equal and the same color whether they are white or black. This clip can be prejudice in some way. Ria789
Blog 3: Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner: “You Considered Yourself a Colored Man….” In this clip John’s interaction with his father Mr. Prentice was very heated because John feels that his father is trying to rule his life. Throughout the clip there is evidence of age stratification which is the unequal distribution of wealth, power, and privilege among people at different states of the life course. John expressed this when he made reference to his father’s generation being the problem and that the problem wouldn’t be resolved until that generation was dead and gone; this is probably cultural lag as well. I also think John was expressing Disengagement Theory which is the idea that society functions in an orderly way by removing people from positions of responsibility as they reach old age. John is 37 years old and he made reference that his father is 30 years older than him. He is very angry that his father is trying to micromanage his life he told his father that he no longer wants to hear his father’s opinion if and when he thinks John is being out of line. Because John’s father is 30 years older he is expressing ageism which is prejudice and discrimination against an older person. Mr. Prentice and John are also experiencing role-conflict during this situation. John feels that his father segregates himself as a “Colored Man” and John thinks of himself as “A Man”. It doesn’t appear that John is racist or discriminates against his own race; he would just rather view himself as a man rather than a colored man. Maybe this has something to do with the high status that John lives and works as a doctor. His father doesn’t appear poor in the clip however his career as a mailman is a lower status than John. John is going to marry Joanna despite the social biases they will face. He wants father to see past the problem that they have and support them.
In this scene we see that not only is deviance being used but also see ageism playing into it too. Dr. Prentice started to stand up to his father because his father was using social control to try to argue his side. Saying that Dr. Prentice owed him for everything that he was because he worked as a mail carrier to make him get ahead in life. He gave his son everything he could have even when he could have gave his wife something she needed or wanted. Dr. Prentice argues back at his father saying that since he brought him into this world that that was expected of him to try to do everything to help his child succeed in life. He adds after in a calm manner that his father sees himself as a black man while he sees himself as a man. The use of the stigma black created a negative aspect to Mr. Prentice that his son did not associate with. The labeling theory is where this comes from; the idea that deviance and conformity result not so much from what people do as from how others respond to those actions. In most cultures, the elderly have a positive influence on the family and aid in decision making. However for this clip we see Dr. Prentice fight against the elderly, his father, and reject the norms that his father’s generation created. The bias and racist culture that was being fought at the time by radical extremist and by peaceful protests. Dr. Prentice says that those views won’t be gone until his father's generation is dead and those ideas die along with them. The discrimination and the prejudice views of the time were being addressed in this scene and in the movie as a whole. The interracial marriage was a shock to both sides of the party, but as we saw ended up being accepted by both families and created a happy ending for the movie. Cassiopia789
In the clip John states that his father thinks of himself as a black man whereas he thinks of himself as a man. This statement really hit me when we watched it in class and it opened my eyes to how a black man might think and be stigmatized back in the 1960’s. Because of the generation, or cohort, that his dad grew up in, he thought of himself as a black man. He thought of himself as lesser than a white man due to rampant discrimination and his own racial bias. George Herbert called this the generalized other, or a term for cultural norms and values we use as a reference in evaluating ourselves. Charles Cooley also called it looking-glass self . John’s father thought that society looked upon himself as a colored person, so he himself viewed himself as a colored person. So it really wasn’t his father’s father’s fault that he thought this way. His father was most likely born in the 1900-1920’s when black people were openly treated terribly and typically worked less than important jobs due to his ascribed status of being black. His son, John, didn’t settle for this and desired to be something more. He could have just fell in line with the times and become a factory worker or mailman just like his father. He didn’t want this and became a medical doctor reaching an achieved status or even a master status because he does hold a special importance in society. This is actually a great example of class conflict between father and son. His dad was a mailman and he is now a doctor, someone of great importance. What I see John trying to do is show his father that being multicultural isn’t a bad thing, even though there will be hard times ahead. The clip also shows a bit of age stratification where John’s father is older than he is and his word should be followed without question, and that’s where John says that he can’t tell him to live his life according to his father’s rules. The line where Jon says that his father’s generation believes that the way it was for him is the way it has be for him shows that John is very much a progressive in the ideologies of how people should be treated and viewed. The next powerful line that really hit me and shows how his father thinks is when he said “you don’t down me”. Although slavery had been abolished for 100 years, we still saw black people still working a number of jobs that could be seen as a form of slavery like Tilly being the family’s maid. This could also be a reason that John’s father still viewed himself as a colored man. The conversations also shows that John’s father still wants to control his family through more patriarchal ways. -pmed789
No matter if parents are right or wrong, they just want what is best for their children. Mr. Prentice’s grip on his son became a little too tight when trying to control his son, Dr. John Prentice, and his life and it pushed him over the edge. When Dr. Prentice started to raise his voice at his father, he was incredibly deviant due to the idea that in that time elders had the up most respect and they were to always receive that respect. Dr. Prentice showed signs of ageism, when he confronted his father reminding him that he is thirty years older than Dr. Prentice and his father’s values and the way he grew up should not have any influence in what he does with his life. Mr. Prentice is experiencing severe culture shock even more so than Mr. Drayton, Joanna’s father, due to his unwavering belief that his ascribed status is such a negative status that makes himself think that he is not as equal as any Caucasian person. The idea of miscegenation in the late 1900’s was a scary thought because it would be breaking one society’s largest norms. Which Dr. Prentice was not afraid to break and was not afraid to face the prejudicial world because he no longer thought of himself as just a “black man,” but thought of himself as a man. Mr. Prentice and Dr. Prentice share not only the same ethnicity and the same race and yet Joanna’s father, Matt Drayton, was able to come to terms with the marriage in the end. Growing up with a much stricter kind of social control, has made Mr. Prentice abundantly more negative about his son’s marriage and effects the way he sees himself as a man. With Dr. Prentice’s white-collar occupation, he has been able to grow and learn to see himself as something more than the label that society had given him. Despite Dr. Prentice’s parents’ way of achieving their income and or any wealth his family had, he wanted to be more and do more with his life. In doing so, he found the person he wanted to spend the rest of his life with and who he was meant to be with. MelRich895
The beginning of this video focus on Age Stratification in a Working Class family. The difference between wealth, power, and privilege at different stages of a life course. He tells his father that he doesn’t owe him anything just because the Caste System is based on ascription or birth. That in fact that his father owes him everything, that he doesn't have to go by the Conventional Norms or respect his father's Authority just because his father wants him to do certain things in life and follow that traditional beliefs. He tells his dad that it’s his job to do everything and give him every opportunity he could possibly have in life because that is what he is suppose to do as a father. He points out to his father that his generation will go through Intragenerational Social Mobility and Intergenerational Social Mobility because generations are changing all the time. John tells his father that he thinks of himself of a “colored” man while he thinks of himself as a “man.” John is determined to not let Conflict Theory claim Racism, Stereotypes, and Ethnicity get in the way of people who try to divide and control the population that he lives in. He send a powerful message to his father that I will probably never forget just so he can say that he will continue to be the man he is no matter what society says. unknownzeeha789
In this clip it shows John and his father having a heated discussion because his father is trying to control what he is doing. Throughout this clip John father reminded him that he was the one who worked hard as a mail man to take care of him and put him through school, so he feels as if his son owes him something for that. John quickly reminds his father that the stuff he was doing was what he was supposed to do as a parent, so he doesn’t owe him anything. In this clip I saw a lot of examples of age stratification. John father is stuck in his time and haven’t adjusted to any of the new laws, since he grew up in the times where everything was segregated, and white people were mistreating the blacks he finds it hard to understand why his son would want to marry a white woman. I see this problem as a cultural lag he isn’t trying to adjust to the new laws instead he is still seeing everything from how it was when he was growing up. while they are having this discussion John express to his father that he sees himself as just a man unlike how his father sees himself as just a colored man. Which mean he will not segregate himself because the color of his skin he sees himself equal to everyone else. John just wants his father to get out of his ways and support the decision that he has made but he did make it clear that he was going to marry Joana rather his father agrees with it or not. Crown789
This video should resonate with all men in this class. It is in our innate qualities to be independent. I agree with John, he owes his father nothing but respect, because his father was doing what he was supposed to do. When you become a parent you take on a massive responsibility of caring for another life. Parents tend to get a chip on their shoulder thinking that they own their child even after they reach adulthood. John clearly see's right through this, probably because he has had his own child and lost it at a very early age. So, he knows what it means to be a father. The quote "you see yourself as a black man, i see myself as a man" was definitely my favorite scene in the whole film. That was powerful because it showed the generation gap and how progress was being made in that period of time. John's father had no choice to be anything but a black man because he was put into that box his whole life. While John has broken those bounds by becoming a renowned doctor, and not just a black man. "You and your whole lousy generation believe that the way it was for you is the way it's got to be." This is still prevalent in todays society with generations. I think this will be a hard thing to overcome as humans feel like they are being cheated if things are getting better in their later years. This will continue to happen as long as we continue to progress. QuinkThick789
The separation of a man from his race. John is very clearly a black man, the same as his father, Mr. Prentice, but he makes a very clear distinction, distancing himself from the color of his skin and the distinctive biological signifiers that would indicate his descent in favor of looking inwards and prioritizing his personality. What makes him who he is. Mr. Prentice, on the other hand, thinks that being black effects every aspect of who he has turned out to be. I don't think either of them are wrong. John begs his father to get up off his back, but Mr. Prentice has the boots of thousands of other men pushing him down as a minority, and I think rather than trying to kick his son down as well, he is merely trying to push him out of the line of fire in his own misguided way. Mr. Prentice and his wife are low-income, working class people, a people who are well known to value obedience in their children and he has walked cold concrete for years of his life to provide his child with all that he never had. He demands respect, commands authority in the way that the patriarch of the family would often do in that day. Perhaps, even, Mr. Prentice is a little bit intimidated by the intergenerational mobility that his son has displayed. Surely he is proud, but his son has become a man that can no longer be cowed by his father. He has lost all of his power in this relationship, and getting used to the new dynamic will take time. His son has risen to a place in the social hierarchy that can even be seen as above him, which may be partially why John has the privilege to see himself as a man, instead of a black man. It is a lot easier for a white person to see a well respected doctor with no flaws to speak of as an equal, than to see the man who delivers their mail as a peer. After all, America is in part a meritocracy, and being a Doctor is a master status if not an achieved status. Though he has very low status consistency, as a minority vs. a master status, he has a wild amount of social mobility, whereas his father has a higher status consistency, and a lower amount of social mobility. The social interactions with white people that these two men have had must have been completely separate and that must be taken into account. Mr. Prentice's social identity is tied intrinsically to his blackness because it was necessary to his survival. His parenting to John was rife with control because he perceived it as necessary to John's survival. Perhaps Mr. Prentice even prefers homogeny because he sees any other option as dangerous, the same as Matt. John, on the other hand is feeling role conflict, between the roles of son and potential spouse. Or even son and individual. He wants to listen to his father, because he loves him, and even fears him to a point. Warring with that, and in the end overpowering that is his desire to marry Joanna and his strong need for independence. He lashes out, and demands that his father see that he too, has his own needs, and his own outlook on life. As Lawrence Kohlberg said, we first judge rightness in preconventional terms, according to our individual needs, and John's were dissimilar to his fathers. He had to make Mr. Prentice see things from his point of view. Even if he had to yell and scream to be heard, communication was what was needed. John's entire outpouring of emotion was about understanding and emotion, not anger or cruelty, and I think that is an incredibly important takeaway. Neither man is in the wrong, they are merely men, a family, who wants nothing more than to love and protect each other, and be heard, as do we all.
The clip has one statement that really stands out it and it was “You consider yourself a colored man, I consider myself a man.” It shows how much different the older generation vs the younger generation and what younger generations face due to ageism. Older generations typically judge people more on their race and create bad stereotypes about different ethnicity group, where younger people are more open to different cultures and getting to know people. Older people are like this because when they were growing up segregation was happening, and most of them may not even realize what they are doing is wrong because they were taught no different. The older people believe that the world should not change and there should not be equality, where the younger generation believes differently. He also states that he knows that his father’s generation thinks the couple is being deviant, but he says that things will not change until the older generation is gone. He states they will not be free until that generation is buried, because he believes in equality and that generation does not. Dr Prentice even told his father that he knows they are going to have to deal with discrimination and racism but they will get through it. This shows a good example of how social stratification changes with time. EPIC789
2. When John spoke with his dad in the study was my favorite scene because both of them got put in their respected places. For instance, When Mr. Prentice came in yelling at John about how he raised him and how him and his mother struggled to get John to where he is today. Then Mr. Prentice started talking about how stupid John is for making a huge mistake in his life and more of how it will affect John and Joey in the future. If you listen carefully to when Mr. Prentice is talking he mentions that it’s not the way of life because back, then no one has ever thought of African Americans beginning a relationship with Caucasian. Throughout the whole movie you hear each character state that they never thought of both races forming a relationship with each other not even once. Don’t get me wrong it wasn’t against the law but it was as though it was, based off the current relationship Caucasians have with African Americans in general. At the end of Mr. Prentice statement John pretty much knew that his father was completely against him and Joey getting married by his tone of voice and words chosen. After John sat through the storm of his father’s opinion about how he felt; John then pour out a scorching response of how he felt about his father. First he started by addressing how he doesn’t owe his dad a thing because the time that he was a child all the way up until the time John went off to college was his dad’s job or obligation because John didn’t chose to be born his parents made that decision for him. Then John went on and addressed his dad’s opinion of the relationship by stating that his dad isn’t the one to live with a Caucasian woman and have children while also enduring the everyday struggle of people in society treating them like crap. Which if I was in John shoes and had to tackle that task I wouldn’t care what everyone one else thought because at the end of the day my wife, children, and I will have to deal with the way we live our lives. Actually from watching this video makes me think about the arguments me and my father have that is similar to what is being spoke about in this particular video.-NIKE789
Implicit bias is the prejudice and stereotype to the people in same category in unconsciously while explicit bias is the same but in consciously. In my opinion, Dr. Drayton had both of these biases. As the father, he known John is a good delegate for husband role (John is a doctor, polite, mature, and true love) but not for his daughter because of Johns' skin color. The racism is unconsciously controlling of his mind and fighting hard with his opposite feeling (support the marriage couple). Dr. Drayton's mind is also very clear about his attitude toward African American because he lived in the discrimination and segregation period in United State history. In their conversation, Dr. Drayton said the black people dance very well on the TV, and the negro never can play baseball. These statements are obviously stereotype to black people. And then he turned back to marriage topic, the mood just drops quickly. He blamed John that they are making decision too quick and gave him too little time. But John said it's not him, it is his daughter. His daughter believed Dr. Drayton will accept this marriage right away because in her eyes, Dr. Drayton is hero for against discrimination. This is irony because Dr. Drayton turn out not welcome John and unhappy for their marriage while Dr. Drayton was not expected what his teach Joanna about colorblindness now turn around and bite him. Another irony is that although Dr. Drayton is a smart, logical, wealthy, and upper-class man who realized the inequality and dehumanized in what Karl Marx referred as the race-conflict society and fight against this injustice system, can't overcome the news of his daughter marriage to the black men. No different to the nobles who against slavery but has slavery at their home. More meaningful is that both people of the couple are minorities and they be together to against this majority rule world. Another thing here is that Dr. Drayton also worried the couple children's future because they will be the miscegenation kids. It will be hard for his grandchildren to survive in this institutional prejudice and discrimination country. They can become the deviance and isolate to either races. This worriedness and the conflict between racism and father role contributed to his angry mood throughout the movie. Zero789
This is a very powerful clip. “Dad… you think of yourself as a colored man, I consider myself a man.” In this video we see an interesting dynamic between a son and his father. Through their social interaction we can see their conflict as two different people in two different times/mind sets. Prentice’s father has a different idea on what role Prentice has to fulfil as his status as a son. It appears that because of the father’s long history as working in a blue-collar occupation where it is likely that he experienced institutional prejudice and discrimination, since he lived through the segregation and the common belief that certain races were inferior or superior because of certain stereotypes. It’s likely because of this that the father developed an implicit bias against white people, while internalizing the racism that he was exposed to while growing up in America (which is seen in the movie by the maid who believed the Prentice was trying to ‘get above his station’, where she honestly thought that blacks didn’t belong as equals to whites). This is probably the reason why Prentice pointed it out- the father sees himself as a colored man, not just a man. Prentice himself was a part of a changing culture in America, where civil rights issues became mainstream and more people began fighting for their rights in this cultural integration. The father himself is experiencing cultural lag. His generation (as mentioned in the clip) is the old tradition where colored people suffered silently under whites. As multiculturalism grows, the elderly in this situation experience a culture shock (as seen in Drayton when his own daughter shows up with a black fiancée). Prentice says in the video that he doesn’t owe his father anything, that caring for him was his father’s duty for bringing him into this world. That he’s telling him how to live his life, and how his lousy generation will always think that since that was the way life was for them, then that’s the way it’s got to be. Here, Prentice generalizes his father’s entire generation because they’re old. Both people here are trying to assert to what they believe is right according to their ideology. Both are also experiencing a role conflict in their changing statuses in a society where a caste system that depends on ascribed statuses, is developing into a class system based more on meritocracy. Papyrus789
Dr. Prentice’s father only wants what is best for his don. However, what he thinks is best for his son is not the same that his son thinks. Father Prentice has worked a modest blue collar life delivering mail for the last thirty years. And while doing that he has provided for his family and raised his son, all while living in a segregated and racially stereotyped culture. Now as for the movie clip, Dr. Prentice and his father are arguing about the whole marriage problem. His father does not want his son to marry a white girl and thinks that he can control his life. However, Dr. Prentice goes off on his father and tells him that he cannot control him. A powerful thing said from Dr. Prentice is that his father’s generation believes that the way it was for them is the way its got to be. This goes hand in hand with Implicit bias and pre-bias because his father had already had the bias that marrying a white girl can bring nothing but problems to his life. And he had not worked his whole life and provided for his son for him to go off and do what he may thing is crazy and completely insane. What the father does not realize is that times are changing and with changing times comes the change in cultural norms. One norm from his father's generation is segregation. Dr Prentice states that his father thinks of himself as a colored man, and Dr. Prentice thinks of himself as just a man. This shows the change in norms because his father's generation did think of themselves as colored men because that is what was thought by society and most likely the only thing they were known to be. However as the times are changing Dr. Prentice is not only seen as a colored man but as a doctor and as a husband or father, and is more accepted to have a wife that is white, and not limited to someone of the same color. Navajo789
Dr. Prentice in this video is showing a good example of the cyclical theories of social change suggesting that societies follow a certain life course, from vigorous and innovative youth to more materialistic maturity. Dr. prentice you listen to me, you said you don't want to tell me how to live my life so what do you think you have been doing? You tell what right I got or haven’t got or what you have done for me. Let me tell you something, I owe you nothing! If you carried that bag one million miles, you did what you where supposed to do! Because you brought in to this world and from that day you owed me everything you could do for me like I’ll owe my son if I ever get to have another, but you don't owe me. And you can’t tell me when or where I am out of line or try to get me to live my life according to your rules. I think that he is trying to make a point ariented in cultural lack about how things where for his father and how things are for him now and how the interracial culture is changing at least for him and his new relationship by defining the situation.
He then told his dad that he is his father and he is his son and that he dad see him as a black man but he sees himself as a man showing a perfect example of a dependant variable about his defining situation. But his father see the defiant deviance that violate the characteristics of important social norms. Koi789
I would like to start to saying that John really told his father how it was. However, it seemed that it was something his father needed to hear, and in a very harsh way, John made a very good point. Certain things, such as racism and prejudice against interracial dating, are quickly dying with age. Here we are almost sixty years later, interracial marriage is legal in all 50 states now and segregation of whites and blacks is no longer happening. I am not implying that older generations need to die off, I thought that part was a little much, but I am recognizing the pattern that John is referring to. The more we progress through time, the less controversial things like this have become. I find this video and the movie itself to be somewhat relatable. I dated a boy in high school who happened to be colored and my mother had some reservations about it because of the time she grew up in. It was not nearly as severe of a situation as what takes place in the movie though. There was some mild discomfort in the beginning, but now she thinks of him as one of her own and he has been a very close part of our family for about four years now. Another way that I found my situation to be rather relatable to this movie is how Joanna sees nothing wrong with the situation whatsoever whereas her parents are the ones with something to say. In my situation I also thought nothing of it until my mother came forward with her thoughts about it. Throughout this entire film, my favorite part was probably the passion, and it can be found in this scene especially with Dr. And Mr. Prentice. He may have been angry but I feel that his primary emotion in that moment is passion. He is very passionate about Joanna and the love that they share with one another. He is willing to fight for her and willing to deal with the social ridicule that is to follow. Dr. Prentice is a very brave and intelligent man from what I have observed.White789
This video is very emotionally charged. John has spent the whole movie trying to avoid his parents’ disapproval for falling in love with a white girl. In this scene he finally snaps and unloads on his father, telling him that his father barely even knows him and has absolutely no right to tell him how to live his life or who to love. His father had been a mail carrier to provide for the family and pay the bills. John tells him that he owes his father absolutely nothing, because his father did what is expected of every parent: providing a life for their child. No child comes into the world of their own accord, the parents’ actions brought them there. The parent is now responsible for helping the child grow, learn, mature, and become a better human than the parent was. Some parents don’t see their children as anything other than an extension of themselves, or even as a retirement plan to be taken advantage of. The traditions of obeying and honoring parents and elders often becomes a point of age conflict, especially when the parent is expecting complete compliance from a child long grown into an adult. As John tells his father, children owe their parents nothing. Once a child becomes an adult, the parent needs to let go of the control they have over the child and embrace the fact that they have (hopefully) raised a competent adult who can be trusted to make the best decisions possible according to their own beliefs, which may or may not align with the beliefs of the parents. John says to his father, “You don’t own me” and emphasizes that his father barely even knows him as a person. He then goes on to say that the world in which his father grew up in was and is very different from the one John lives in and is creating for himself. As a doctor, his life will be much different from the life of his father, who had been a mail carrier. John also realizes that the world his children will live in and create for themselves will be even more different as society continues to change and progress. Minty789
You can feel the anger in his voice when he was speaking to his father in this scene!!! This was obviously something that had been going on since john was a young child. Years and years of holding this kind of pain and misunderstanding has to be torture for anybody having to put up with such a thing. It’s never a good thing when you have to act as if someone’s way of things is correct when you know deep down that it’s not. His dad probably thought “oh he won’t say anything because it’s my way or the highway”, man he was so incorrect. The look of confusion and humbleness was rife all over his face and body language to the point where he had NO choice but to listen to his son john and what he had to say. The part where he said “you think like a colored man, I think like a man “stuck out to me like a sore thumb. That spoke to the oppression and “slavery and racist” mindset that many black men had back then, the old narrative “out your head down and work boy” , in which caused many black men to feel as if they were less than , unequal , and incompetent to do a better job than a white man and the only thing he had authority over was his family and barely that. That mental abuse over the years damaged john’s dad to the point where it was engraved in him that that’s how he was supposed to think and being a mailman for 30 years was all he would ever consider himself to be instead of a hardworking, upstanding, strong black man that took care of his family. John felt as if he was never understood who HE was as a man at all. John respected his dad enough to tell him that this wasn’t about to keep going on and on until the day his father passed away. He finally got what he felt of his chest and sociologically was a better man after it. -collegekid789-
Dr. Prentice referenced his father a “colored man” instead of being a man like himself. He appeared to be highly upset at the start of the video expressing his feelings on his upbringing by his father. The conversation was very candid as there was not much social interaction happening here with the pair, the tension in the room was so thick you could cut it with a knife. Role strain may have been present during his younger years as his dad worked as a mail carrier. Thirty years ago individuals displayed actions, both interacted and reacted differently based on how society was shaped at the time. The doctor wanted his father to be open to change, and to simply, take a look at how he had conformed to behaviors brought on by his era. What does being a colored man mean exactly? Had his father accepted the label placed upon him by people within the society and now his own son? In my opinion his dad appeared to be closed-minded, yet he seemed to be a hardworking man who was looking out for the best interest of his son. You “owe me” not “own me” Mr. Prentice says, which reflects a slave like mentality and for this reason he feel as though his dad will forever be closed off from all the world has to offer. After expressing his love for his father he firmly stated until all of his fathers' generation have passed away would the weight be off his back. We raise our children based on specific morals and values that we were taught by our parents, family, and important people in society such as teachers. Some things may remain with them for a lifetime, other things may become questionable as they age and gain their own perspective on life via personal life experiences which may deviate from past ideologies. Miscegenation is more widespread in smaller towns then that of bigger cities today, yet it is becoming more accepting as the days go on. One should be open to change as growth comes with adaptation. mummyoftwo789
This was one of my favorite scenes of the movie. I liked how John saw himself I just a man and not a black man. He was allowing his father to put him in a box and label him. He was just a man no different than anyone else. Yes, his skin may be different, but John was not going to segregate himself just how everyone else segregated him. John didn’t believe that he owed his father anything that his father owed him everything for bringing him into this world. I think the reason why John’s father felt like that was because he worked hard to get his son through medical school and he may have provided the funds, but John was the one that decided to work hard during school to get him at the social standing that he is in now. It just made it seem like his father was okay with being considered a colored man and just not a man of society looking past the color of his skin. Another thing this clip showed was the patriarchy, his father made it seem like he owned his son, and he would do as he said not whatever john wanted to do because he is the reason that John is who he is. Our parents are a big part of who we are, but they don’t have ownership over us we are our own person and we are going to do what makes us happy and john really did show that to his parents, he showed that he was going to marry Joanna without their permission, because he is a man. Back in the 60’s it seemed as if the older generation was the more the seemed okay with no change happening to our society. The clip shows the age stratification, Mr. Prentice felt as though he was able to decide his son’s future even though he son was able to make him own decisions. Vct789
This was a very touching scene in the movie and told the viewers that he didn't view himself as just a colored man but as a man. He had a lot of anger and pain aimed towards his father and definitely needed to let it out. Johns father was very quiet and seemed to know not to interrupt him as he was talking,finally getting it off his chest. -collegekid789-
I agree that it was a powerful scene. Dr. Prentiss was very passionate about his new relationship and his intentions for this relationship. He was adamant that he was the one making this decision. I believe that he could tell that his father was concerned and was surprised by his response because after he blew up on his father, he calmed himself and spoke in a softer tone letting his father know how much he truly cared about him. MommaJ789
Dr. Prentiss was very passionate when speaking with his father in the scene, "You think of yourself as a colored man." He explained the hardships that the people of his father’s generation had and that as long as the kept referring to themselves as "colored men" this view would never change. Dr. Prentiss explained that he thought of himself as a "man". Dr. Prentiss understood how much extra time and effort his father put in at work as a postal carrier to get him through medical school, but also believed that his determination and hard work is what got him where he is today. This movie reminds me a lot of when I was a teenager. My race is caucasion, although my relative ethnicity is Hispanic. In highschool, I dated outside of my race and was subjected to multiple counts of stereotypes. There was always someone that had a prejudice mind and tried to use me as a scapegoat to make themselves feel better or look cool because of the harmful racism they were portraying. I felt that at times not only my friends but also myself were victims of discrimination, just because we were together. It will be an amazing place someday when we can say we suffer from pluralism, when all races and ethnicities are treated equally. The really sad thing today that I often see in areas where there is assimilation, especially among black African Americans, is that there are other black African Americans that complain that they are acting Caucasian or out of their race. It is usually that they are being made fun of because they are well-mannered and well-spoken with grammar that would make your English teacher proud. Why can’t a person be a person just like Dr. Prentiss sees himself as a man, not a colored man? MommaJ789
He states, “You think of yourself a colored man, I think of myself a man” I feel like this means he sees himself as equal to people who are not colored. He does not segregate himself from other people. He considers himself a man, not a man of color or wealth or anything of the sort to put him into a stereotype. The man does not discriminate, or is prejudice, or racist his own people he just sees himself equal to everyone. He is trying to make this point to his father as his father experiences culture shock. He tells his father he has no right to tell him what he can or cannot do and that his father did what he was supposed to do to raise him. He does not want to live his life according to his father rules, he is his own man. in his father eyes his son is being deviant. His belief is his father and his whole generation believe that because it was the way it was for them that is the way it is supposed to be for him. That is what the norm is supposed to be, that is a social structure, and the man is saying no he will live his life the way he feels is right. His father’s values and his values are different in this situation. The man is a multiculturalist and he think his father wouldn’t understand it. The man’s personality and views show a yearning for equality and the people holding society back from accomplishing that are people like his father.
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As one can guess, the statement of this video is a strong one. Throughout its entirety, the concept of age stratification is tackled alongside elements of social change occurring as a whole cohort of the previous generation begins to effectively enter a state of disengagement. This cohort maintains a culture that declares the way of segregation as the only way to live, that race is, and should be, an important status. Dr. Prentice, as a member of a new generation, can see a different future, one where a person’s status set does not include ascribed statuses of race, one where your race is not a master status. Dr. Prentice points out that his father was simply following the expectations of his role as a father, and that he cannot live in debt to someone who only did what they were supposed to do. Further, Prentice states that despite his father’s claims that he does not want to tell Prentice how to live, his perpetuation of segregationally charged culture is the same as trying to control his son’s life. Prentice goes as far to say that the cultural beliefs that his father holds will only die when his generation does, potentially alluding to the fact that the only reason that the discrimination and segregation exists is because of cultural transmission of a long dead culture, stubbornly maintaining its hold through cultural lag. The many statements that Prentice makes to his father are painful truths of the status sets and role sets of a dying generation. Even after such cruel statements, Prentice chooses to love his father as the man who socialized and raised him to be the successful man that he is. Then comes the powerful statement, “You think of yourself as a colored man, I think of myself as a man.” Prentice states the nature of his father’s master status as a black man, as he chooses to accept it, while Prentice states that, while he may have the same status, he does not recognize it as significant enough to describe who he is.
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DeleteThis clip shows a lot of our lives and the issues we deal with old generations causing ageism. The older generation doesn't want the world to change. So for them its hard to see how the new generation does things. Dr. Prentice's father was around when segregation was still a thing. The statement you consider yourself a colored man has to do with the generation he came from. Dr. Prentice explains his father you have taught me live but I live like a man not a colored man. He realizes his future wife and his children will deal with discrimination and racism. As he states that's the choice his father chose to bring his into society so it was his responsibility to take care of him. Nobody in this world gets to chose their sex, gender, or race. In this generation you can change these things but you are not able to choose at birth. Everybody has to live as a person not by their appearance. Dr.Prentice had to tell his father the truth on how his generation believes what he is doing is deviant, but its not and the new generation will not be freed til the old generation are dead and buried. Social stratification changes with very generation. Dr. Prentice does not see himself as a colored man and so do many men in his generation. He has became what he is not because he is black but because he didn't let him being black hold him back from being everything he could. From his fathers point of view being a black man in his generation you didn't have many opportunities as a colored man. His father can't see how it has changed. How its alright for a colored man to be married to a white woman. He's not thinking about his son's feelings simply what will society think or how society will treat his son and how he wants his son to listen to him because he believes he knows what is best. -Gander789
ReplyDeleteDr. Prentice grew up in a working-class family. His father was a mail carrier for over thirty years who worked hard, provided for his family, and payed for Dr. Prentice schooling. Sr. Prentice believed that since he put Dr. Prentice through school, he was to conform by conventional norms and respect his authority. With his schooling Dr. Prentice gained an achieved status and occupational prestige. Dr. Prentice had an upward intergenerational social mobility. Although he earned this social status, through meritocracy, his father worried that his ascribed status, being born African-American will bring about a latent function of how members of society will treat him if he were to marry outside his race. Dr. Prentice believed his father wanted him to live his life according his father’s rules. Although society was accepting the concept of interracial marriage. His father’s generation had a cultural lag in believing that the way it is, is the way it should be. George Herbert Mead’s theory of social behaviorism comes into play. With Dr. Prentices social experiences and social interaction, he developed a self-image that he was a man. He became successful and earned a lifetime of accomplishments. He was passionate about being equality. He said his father identified, based on Charles Horton Cooley term looking-glass self, himself as a colored man. By adding the word colored in front of the word man that associates negativity and stigmatizes his father. His father created a master status of being a colored man. Sr. Prentice had success and lived the American Dream but sees himself the way he believes the world sees him as just a colored man facing social inequality no matter what social position he held. He lived during a period where it was the law that blacks could not socialize with whites let alone date or get married. Dr. Prentice conformed postconventional norms when he fell in love with a woman from a different race. Neither him or Joey saw black and white, they saw the color red. They were willing to be married regardless of the problems or issue they and their children would face. Although segregation laws were prohibited, I believe interracial marriages face prejudice and discrimination even in today’s societies. Because of the socialization process of some members of society, implicit biases and racial injustice will always exist. It does not matter what an individual’s social class, or prestige is, society will always see color first.
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There are a lot of different elements to this video. First you see the element of age stratification. Dr. Prentice’s age group, or cohort, is part of this social change movement when it comes to race, marriage, and equality. He has different privileges than his father did when he was the same age. Men have a justice perspective when it comes to seeing right and wrong, Carol Gilligan suggests. His dad followed the laws that governed his life and marriage and those were his guidelines for moral rightness. The laws did not change until two years before the movie, in 1967; his father had no time to adjust to the changing laws and regulations. Meaning, his morals reflected the laws that were in place for so long and he could not change those so quickly. Another element you see in this video is socialization. Other than the laws, his father had learned, through “nurture,” to feel and act the way he does. His generation, as touched on by Dr. Prentice and seen in the film when comparing the two fathers, is fairly similar throughout. They are “set in their ways,” resistant to change. There learned behaviors and feelings become part of their personality, which also is shown to be pretty static throughout one’s life. The doctors family, peer groups, and the mass media continued to further engrain these thoughts into Mr. Prentice (the father). Another element to the video, probably the most prevalent, is race and culture. Culture theory claims that prejudice is rooted in culture. There is a cultural lag seen between the way Mr. Prentice’s generation views change versus actual change in laws and attitudes. The laws are changing before their beliefs and prejudices can change. You see a display of this when Dr. Prentice explains that Mr. Prentice “sees himself as a colored man” instead of just a man.
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DeleteIn this clip the father is trying to dictate how the son is going to live his life and make his choices. His father is still having cultural lag because he is used to the way things were in his time. Although I disagree with the way the son handled his response to the father, he made a solid point and showed what the new society is becoming. The son is representing a generation where everything is changing and everything is different. Racial equality was becoming a reality. The amount of power and emotion that the son had in this argument showed that the new generation is strong and more independent. He not only wants equality in race, but in class and age. He is removing ageism and racism all in one with this argument.
ReplyDeleteThe way his son handled the situation could have been different. He showed his father that he means business, he is an adult now, and he is not going let others control him. He does not see himself as a colored man, He sees himself as a man and he is explaining to his father that this is the way it is going to be from now on in the house and in society. The son and father are being put through role conflict in this situation, because they both are pieces of a minority role and a family role. Sociologically this is proving the change in the United States in this time. Many younger generation Americans are much more assertive. The way that the son handled the conclusion to his argument also applies to role conflict. He is being a son and not a part in society. In a broad way, he was telling his father change is here.
Also in this scene the father is displaying a general amount of patriarchy. The father is trying to control his son’s life and decisions. This can’t be blamed specifically on the father. This is mostly to blame on his generation. They were brought up in a way that shaped their minds to think that “the man of the house” is in charge.
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DeleteThis scene is one of the most memorable scenes from the movie that will be difficult to forget. It is a very intense discussion between a father and his son. The father, Mr. Prentice is thirty years older than his son is so they both grew up in different eras and they learned different ways that society reacts to certain situations. His father grew up in a working-class family which is a social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially manual or industrial work. Mr. Prentice worked as a mail man but still managed to get the support he needed to take care of his wife and child. He was able to get his son the education he needed. But John’s point is that he did it because he was supposed to. It is the parent’s job to do what they are supposed to in order to get their kids what they need. He goes on to say that his father sees himself as a colored man but John sees himself as just a man. Social inequality has been changing decade by decade and it is difficult to say how it will be like in the future. But at that moment, society is at the point where it’s not completely terrible to have an interracial relationship anymore. The way people view social stratification is changing as well. It changes with every generation, which is why everyone feels differently about occurring issues depending on the age difference. Social stratification is the kind of social differentiation whereby a society groups people into socioeconomic strata, based upon their occupation and income. Racism is nothing like it used to be. Does it still exist today? But it has changed like a lot of other issues. The two fathers have a difficult time with this because of ageism. They are prejudice and discriminating based on their age and what they grew up in. Social change occurs everywhere and so it makes it hard to understand what is happening and how to deal with social interaction. This is why the father is having a bad time with his son in understanding the situation. Schmidt789
ReplyDeleteIn this clip, Dr. Prentice’s father has worked for 30 years as a mail man just to provide for his wife and son. He is used to the way things were in his generation were there was major segregation between white people and black people. He wanted to keep Dr. Prentice to stay under his care, because he thought he owed him something for taking care of him, paying his school fees, etc. but that was his duty as a father, because back then, men were the head of the house, they were expected to provide for the family and had more job opportunities than a woman would although he African American. But Dr. Prentice stood up for himself saying he did not owe anything to his father, he was the one who brought him to this world so it was his job to take care of him and provide for him as a father, he would do the exact same thing if he had his kids as well. Older generations seem to want the future to stay the same because it would not be hard to adapt to it rather than learning the new things that the young generations are into. In the title it asks “do you consider yourself a colored man” it relates to not seeing past your own view as being black or white because of how African American were treated. So when he wanted his son wanted to have a miscegenation marriage, he could not understand why his son would marry a white girl after how the African American were treated, with unequal rights, less opportunities of jobs. This was age stratification, the older you are the superior you feel over someone who is young, in this case that is how Dr. Prentice’s father felt. Dr. Prentice didn’t seem to discriminate, segregate and racism to white people because in his eyes he thought they were equal and the same color whether they are white or black. This clip can be prejudice in some way.
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Blog 3: Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner: “You Considered Yourself a Colored Man….”
ReplyDeleteIn this clip John’s interaction with his father Mr. Prentice was very heated because John feels that his father is trying to rule his life. Throughout the clip there is evidence of age stratification which is the unequal distribution of wealth, power, and privilege among people at different states of the life course. John expressed this when he made reference to his father’s generation being the problem and that the problem wouldn’t be resolved until that generation was dead and gone; this is probably cultural lag as well. I also think John was expressing Disengagement Theory which is the idea that society functions in an orderly way by removing people from positions of responsibility as they reach old age. John is 37 years old and he made reference that his father is 30 years older than him. He is very angry that his father is trying to micromanage his life he told his father that he no longer wants to hear his father’s opinion if and when he thinks John is being out of line. Because John’s father is 30 years older he is expressing ageism which is prejudice and discrimination against an older person. Mr. Prentice and John are also experiencing role-conflict during this situation. John feels that his father segregates himself as a “Colored Man” and John thinks of himself as “A Man”. It doesn’t appear that John is racist or discriminates against his own race; he would just rather view himself as a man rather than a colored man. Maybe this has something to do with the high status that John lives and works as a doctor. His father doesn’t appear poor in the clip however his career as a mailman is a lower status than John. John is going to marry Joanna despite the social biases they will face. He wants father to see past the problem that they have and support them.
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In this scene we see that not only is deviance being used but also see ageism playing into it too. Dr. Prentice started to stand up to his father because his father was using social control to try to argue his side. Saying that Dr. Prentice owed him for everything that he was because he worked as a mail carrier to make him get ahead in life. He gave his son everything he could have even when he could have gave his wife something she needed or wanted. Dr. Prentice argues back at his father saying that since he brought him into this world that that was expected of him to try to do everything to help his child succeed in life. He adds after in a calm manner that his father sees himself as a black man while he sees himself as a man. The use of the stigma black created a negative aspect to Mr. Prentice that his son did not associate with. The labeling theory is where this comes from; the idea that deviance and conformity result not so much from what people do as from how others respond to those actions. In most cultures, the elderly have a positive influence on the family and aid in decision making. However for this clip we see Dr. Prentice fight against the elderly, his father, and reject the norms that his father’s generation created. The bias and racist culture that was being fought at the time by radical extremist and by peaceful protests. Dr. Prentice says that those views won’t be gone until his father's generation is dead and those ideas die along with them. The discrimination and the prejudice views of the time were being addressed in this scene and in the movie as a whole. The interracial marriage was a shock to both sides of the party, but as we saw ended up being accepted by both families and created a happy ending for the movie. Cassiopia789
ReplyDeleteIn the clip John states that his father thinks of himself as a black man whereas he thinks of himself as a man. This statement really hit me when we watched it in class and it opened my eyes to how a black man might think and be stigmatized back in the 1960’s. Because of the generation, or cohort, that his dad grew up in, he thought of himself as a black man. He thought of himself as lesser than a white man due to rampant discrimination and his own racial bias. George Herbert called this the generalized other, or a term for cultural norms and values we use as a reference in evaluating ourselves. Charles Cooley also called it looking-glass self . John’s father thought that society looked upon himself as a colored person, so he himself viewed himself as a colored person. So it really wasn’t his father’s father’s fault that he thought this way. His father was most likely born in the 1900-1920’s when black people were openly treated terribly and typically worked less than important jobs due to his ascribed status of being black. His son, John, didn’t settle for this and desired to be something more. He could have just fell in line with the times and become a factory worker or mailman just like his father. He didn’t want this and became a medical doctor reaching an achieved status or even a master status because he does hold a special importance in society. This is actually a great example of class conflict between father and son. His dad was a mailman and he is now a doctor, someone of great importance. What I see John trying to do is show his father that being multicultural isn’t a bad thing, even though there will be hard times ahead. The clip also shows a bit of age stratification where John’s father is older than he is and his word should be followed without question, and that’s where John says that he can’t tell him to live his life according to his father’s rules. The line where Jon says that his father’s generation believes that the way it was for him is the way it has be for him shows that John is very much a progressive in the ideologies of how people should be treated and viewed. The next powerful line that really hit me and shows how his father thinks is when he said “you don’t down me”. Although slavery had been abolished for 100 years, we still saw black people still working a number of jobs that could be seen as a form of slavery like Tilly being the family’s maid. This could also be a reason that John’s father still viewed himself as a colored man. The conversations also shows that John’s father still wants to control his family through more patriarchal ways.
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No matter if parents are right or wrong, they just want what is best for their children. Mr. Prentice’s grip on his son became a little too tight when trying to control his son, Dr. John Prentice, and his life and it pushed him over the edge. When Dr. Prentice started to raise his voice at his father, he was incredibly deviant due to the idea that in that time elders had the up most respect and they were to always receive that respect. Dr. Prentice showed signs of ageism, when he confronted his father reminding him that he is thirty years older than Dr. Prentice and his father’s values and the way he grew up should not have any influence in what he does with his life. Mr. Prentice is experiencing severe culture shock even more so than Mr. Drayton, Joanna’s father, due to his unwavering belief that his ascribed status is such a negative status that makes himself think that he is not as equal as any Caucasian person. The idea of miscegenation in the late 1900’s was a scary thought because it would be breaking one society’s largest norms. Which Dr. Prentice was not afraid to break and was not afraid to face the prejudicial world because he no longer thought of himself as just a “black man,” but thought of himself as a man. Mr. Prentice and Dr. Prentice share not only the same ethnicity and the same race and yet Joanna’s father, Matt Drayton, was able to come to terms with the marriage in the end. Growing up with a much stricter kind of social control, has made Mr. Prentice abundantly more negative about his son’s marriage and effects the way he sees himself as a man. With Dr. Prentice’s white-collar occupation, he has been able to grow and learn to see himself as something more than the label that society had given him. Despite Dr. Prentice’s parents’ way of achieving their income and or any wealth his family had, he wanted to be more and do more with his life. In doing so, he found the person he wanted to spend the rest of his life with and who he was meant to be with.
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The beginning of this video focus on Age Stratification in a Working Class family. The difference between wealth, power, and privilege at different stages of a life course. He tells his father that he doesn’t owe him anything just because the Caste System is based on ascription or birth. That in fact that his father owes him everything, that he doesn't have to go by the Conventional Norms or respect his father's Authority just because his father wants him to do certain things in life and follow that traditional beliefs. He tells his dad that it’s his job to do everything and give him every opportunity he could possibly have in life because that is what he is suppose to do as a father. He points out to his father that his generation will go through Intragenerational Social Mobility and Intergenerational Social Mobility because generations are changing all the time. John tells his father that he thinks of himself of a “colored” man while he thinks of himself as a “man.” John is determined to not let Conflict Theory claim Racism, Stereotypes, and Ethnicity get in the way of people who try to divide and control the population that he lives in. He send a powerful message to his father that I will probably never forget just so he can say that he will continue to be the man he is no matter what society says.
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In this clip it shows John and his father having a heated discussion because his father is trying to control what he is doing. Throughout this clip John father reminded him that he was the one who worked hard as a mail man to take care of him and put him through school, so he feels as if his son owes him something for that. John quickly reminds his father that the stuff he was doing was what he was supposed to do as a parent, so he doesn’t owe him anything. In this clip I saw a lot of examples of age stratification. John father is stuck in his time and haven’t adjusted to any of the new laws, since he grew up in the times where everything was segregated, and white people were mistreating the blacks he finds it hard to understand why his son would want to marry a white woman. I see this problem as a cultural lag he isn’t trying to adjust to the new laws instead he is still seeing everything from how it was when he was growing up. while they are having this discussion John express to his father that he sees himself as just a man unlike how his father sees himself as just a colored man. Which mean he will not segregate himself because the color of his skin he sees himself equal to everyone else. John just wants his father to get out of his ways and support the decision that he has made but he did make it clear that he was going to marry Joana rather his father agrees with it or not.
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This video should resonate with all men in this class. It is in our innate qualities to be independent. I agree with John, he owes his father nothing but respect, because his father was doing what he was supposed to do. When you become a parent you take on a massive responsibility of caring for another life. Parents tend to get a chip on their shoulder thinking that they own their child even after they reach adulthood. John clearly see's right through this, probably because he has had his own child and lost it at a very early age. So, he knows what it means to be a father. The quote "you see yourself as a black man, i see myself as a man" was definitely my favorite scene in the whole film. That was powerful because it showed the generation gap and how progress was being made in that period of time. John's father had no choice to be anything but a black man because he was put into that box his whole life. While John has broken those bounds by becoming a renowned doctor, and not just a black man. "You and your whole lousy generation believe that the way it was for you is the way it's got to be." This is still prevalent in todays society with generations. I think this will be a hard thing to overcome as humans feel like they are being cheated if things are getting better in their later years. This will continue to happen as long as we continue to progress. QuinkThick789
ReplyDeleteThe separation of a man from his race. John is very clearly a black man, the same as his father, Mr. Prentice, but he makes a very clear distinction, distancing himself from the color of his skin and the distinctive biological signifiers that would indicate his descent in favor of looking inwards and prioritizing his personality. What makes him who he is. Mr. Prentice, on the other hand, thinks that being black effects every aspect of who he has turned out to be. I don't think either of them are wrong. John begs his father to get up off his back, but Mr. Prentice has the boots of thousands of other men pushing him down as a minority, and I think rather than trying to kick his son down as well, he is merely trying to push him out of the line of fire in his own misguided way. Mr. Prentice and his wife are low-income, working class people, a people who are well known to value obedience in their children and he has walked cold concrete for years of his life to provide his child with all that he never had. He demands respect, commands authority in the way that the patriarch of the family would often do in that day. Perhaps, even, Mr. Prentice is a little bit intimidated by the intergenerational mobility that his son has displayed. Surely he is proud, but his son has become a man that can no longer be cowed by his father. He has lost all of his power in this relationship, and getting used to the new dynamic will take time. His son has risen to a place in the social hierarchy that can even be seen as above him, which may be partially why John has the privilege to see himself as a man, instead of a black man. It is a lot easier for a white person to see a well respected doctor with no flaws to speak of as an equal, than to see the man who delivers their mail as a peer. After all, America is in part a meritocracy, and being a Doctor is a master status if not an achieved status. Though he has very low status consistency, as a minority vs. a master status, he has a wild amount of social mobility, whereas his father has a higher status consistency, and a lower amount of social mobility. The social interactions with white people that these two men have had must have been completely separate and that must be taken into account. Mr. Prentice's social identity is tied intrinsically to his blackness because it was necessary to his survival. His parenting to John was rife with control because he perceived it as necessary to John's survival. Perhaps Mr. Prentice even prefers homogeny because he sees any other option as dangerous, the same as Matt. John, on the other hand is feeling role conflict, between the roles of son and potential spouse. Or even son and individual. He wants to listen to his father, because he loves him, and even fears him to a point. Warring with that, and in the end overpowering that is his desire to marry Joanna and his strong need for independence. He lashes out, and demands that his father see that he too, has his own needs, and his own outlook on life. As Lawrence Kohlberg said, we first judge rightness in preconventional terms, according to our individual needs, and John's were dissimilar to his fathers. He had to make Mr. Prentice see things from his point of view. Even if he had to yell and scream to be heard, communication was what was needed. John's entire outpouring of emotion was about understanding and emotion, not anger or cruelty, and I think that is an incredibly important takeaway. Neither man is in the wrong, they are merely men, a family, who wants nothing more than to love and protect each other, and be heard, as do we all.
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The clip has one statement that really stands out it and it was “You consider yourself a colored man, I consider myself a man.” It shows how much different the older generation vs the younger generation and what younger generations face due to ageism. Older generations typically judge people more on their race and create bad stereotypes about different ethnicity group, where younger people are more open to different cultures and getting to know people. Older people are like this because when they were growing up segregation was happening, and most of them may not even realize what they are doing is wrong because they were taught no different. The older people believe that the world should not change and there should not be equality, where the younger generation believes differently. He also states that he knows that his father’s generation thinks the couple is being deviant, but he says that things will not change until the older generation is gone. He states they will not be free until that generation is buried, because he believes in equality and that generation does not. Dr Prentice even told his father that he knows they are going to have to deal with discrimination and racism but they will get through it. This shows a good example of how social stratification changes with time. EPIC789
ReplyDelete2. When John spoke with his dad in the study was my favorite scene because both of them got put in their respected places. For instance, When Mr. Prentice came in yelling at John about how he raised him and how him and his mother struggled to get John to where he is today. Then Mr. Prentice started talking about how stupid John is for making a huge mistake in his life and more of how it will affect John and Joey in the future. If you listen carefully to when Mr. Prentice is talking he mentions that it’s not the way of life because back, then no one has ever thought of African Americans beginning a relationship with Caucasian. Throughout the whole movie you hear each character state that they never thought of both races forming a relationship with each other not even once. Don’t get me wrong it wasn’t against the law but it was as though it was, based off the current relationship Caucasians have with African Americans in general. At the end of Mr. Prentice statement John pretty much knew that his father was completely against him and Joey getting married by his tone of voice and words chosen. After John sat through the storm of his father’s opinion about how he felt; John then pour out a scorching response of how he felt about his father. First he started by addressing how he doesn’t owe his dad a thing because the time that he was a child all the way up until the time John went off to college was his dad’s job or obligation because John didn’t chose to be born his parents made that decision for him. Then John went on and addressed his dad’s opinion of the relationship by stating that his dad isn’t the one to live with a Caucasian woman and have children while also enduring the everyday struggle of people in society treating them like crap. Which if I was in John shoes and had to tackle that task I wouldn’t care what everyone one else thought because at the end of the day my wife, children, and I will have to deal with the way we live our lives. Actually from watching this video makes me think about the arguments me and my father have that is similar to what is being spoke about in this particular video.-NIKE789
ReplyDeleteImplicit bias is the prejudice and stereotype to the people in same category in unconsciously while explicit bias is the same but in consciously. In my opinion, Dr. Drayton had both of these biases. As the father, he known John is a good delegate for husband role (John is a doctor, polite, mature, and true love) but not for his daughter because of Johns' skin color. The racism is unconsciously controlling of his mind and fighting hard with his opposite feeling (support the marriage couple). Dr. Drayton's mind is also very clear about his attitude toward African American because he lived in the discrimination and segregation period in United State history. In their conversation, Dr. Drayton said the black people dance very well on the TV, and the negro never can play baseball. These statements are obviously stereotype to black people. And then he turned back to marriage topic, the mood just drops quickly. He blamed John that they are making decision too quick and gave him too little time. But John said it's not him, it is his daughter. His daughter believed Dr. Drayton will accept this marriage right away because in her eyes, Dr. Drayton is hero for against discrimination. This is irony because Dr. Drayton turn out not welcome John and unhappy for their marriage while Dr. Drayton was not expected what his teach Joanna about colorblindness now turn around and bite him. Another irony is that although Dr. Drayton is a smart, logical, wealthy, and upper-class man who realized the inequality and dehumanized in what Karl Marx referred as the race-conflict society and fight against this injustice system, can't overcome the news of his daughter marriage to the black men. No different to the nobles who against slavery but has slavery at their home. More meaningful is that both people of the couple are minorities and they be together to against this majority rule world. Another thing here is that Dr. Drayton also worried the couple children's future because they will be the miscegenation kids. It will be hard for his grandchildren to survive in this institutional prejudice and discrimination country. They can become the deviance and isolate to either races. This worriedness and the conflict between racism and father role contributed to his angry mood throughout the movie.
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This is a very powerful clip. “Dad… you think of yourself as a colored man, I consider myself a man.” In this video we see an interesting dynamic between a son and his father. Through their social interaction we can see their conflict as two different people in two different times/mind sets. Prentice’s father has a different idea on what role Prentice has to fulfil as his status as a son. It appears that because of the father’s long history as working in a blue-collar occupation where it is likely that he experienced institutional prejudice and discrimination, since he lived through the segregation and the common belief that certain races were inferior or superior because of certain stereotypes. It’s likely because of this that the father developed an implicit bias against white people, while internalizing the racism that he was exposed to while growing up in America (which is seen in the movie by the maid who believed the Prentice was trying to ‘get above his station’, where she honestly thought that blacks didn’t belong as equals to whites). This is probably the reason why Prentice pointed it out- the father sees himself as a colored man, not just a man. Prentice himself was a part of a changing culture in America, where civil rights issues became mainstream and more people began fighting for their rights in this cultural integration. The father himself is experiencing cultural lag. His generation (as mentioned in the clip) is the old tradition where colored people suffered silently under whites. As multiculturalism grows, the elderly in this situation experience a culture shock (as seen in Drayton when his own daughter shows up with a black fiancée). Prentice says in the video that he doesn’t owe his father anything, that caring for him was his father’s duty for bringing him into this world. That he’s telling him how to live his life, and how his lousy generation will always think that since that was the way life was for them, then that’s the way it’s got to be. Here, Prentice generalizes his father’s entire generation because they’re old. Both people here are trying to assert to what they believe is right according to their ideology. Both are also experiencing a role conflict in their changing statuses in a society where a caste system that depends on ascribed statuses, is developing into a class system based more on meritocracy.
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Dr. Prentice’s father only wants what is best for his don. However, what he thinks is best for his son is not the same that his son thinks. Father Prentice has worked a modest blue collar life delivering mail for the last thirty years. And while doing that he has provided for his family and raised his son, all while living in a segregated and racially stereotyped culture. Now as for the movie clip, Dr. Prentice and his father are arguing about the whole marriage problem. His father does not want his son to marry a white girl and thinks that he can control his life. However, Dr. Prentice goes off on his father and tells him that he cannot control him. A powerful thing said from Dr. Prentice is that his father’s generation believes that the way it was for them is the way its got to be. This goes hand in hand with Implicit bias and pre-bias because his father had already had the bias that marrying a white girl can bring nothing but problems to his life. And he had not worked his whole life and provided for his son for him to go off and do what he may thing is crazy and completely insane. What the father does not realize is that times are changing and with changing times comes the change in cultural norms. One norm from his father's generation is segregation. Dr Prentice states that his father thinks of himself as a colored man, and Dr. Prentice thinks of himself as just a man. This shows the change in norms because his father's generation did think of themselves as colored men because that is what was thought by society and most likely the only thing they were known to be. However as the times are changing Dr. Prentice is not only seen as a colored man but as a doctor and as a husband or father, and is more accepted to have a wife that is white, and not limited to someone of the same color.
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Dr. Prentice in this video is showing a good example of the cyclical theories of social change suggesting that societies follow a certain life course, from vigorous and innovative youth to more materialistic maturity. Dr. prentice you listen to me, you said you don't want to tell me how to live my life so what do you think you have been doing? You tell what right I got or haven’t got or what you have done for me. Let me tell you something, I owe you nothing! If you carried that bag one million miles, you did what you where supposed to do! Because you brought in to this world and from that day you owed me everything you could do for me like I’ll owe my son if I ever get to have another, but you don't owe me. And you can’t tell me when or where I am out of line or try to get me to live my life according to your rules. I think that he is trying to make a point ariented in cultural lack about how things where for his father and how things are for him now and how the interracial culture is changing at least for him and his new relationship by defining the situation.
ReplyDeleteHe then told his dad that he is his father and he is his son and that he dad see him as a black man but he sees himself as a man showing a perfect example of a dependant variable about his defining situation. But his father see the defiant deviance that violate the characteristics of important social norms. Koi789
I would like to start to saying that John really told his father how it was. However, it seemed that it was something his father needed to hear, and in a very harsh way, John made a very good point. Certain things, such as racism and prejudice against interracial dating, are quickly dying with age. Here we are almost sixty years later, interracial marriage is legal in all 50 states now and segregation of whites and blacks is no longer happening. I am not implying that older generations need to die off, I thought that part was a little much, but I am recognizing the pattern that John is referring to. The more we progress through time, the less controversial things like this have become.
ReplyDeleteI find this video and the movie itself to be somewhat relatable. I dated a boy in high school who happened to be colored and my mother had some reservations about it because of the time she grew up in. It was not nearly as severe of a situation as what takes place in the movie though. There was some mild discomfort in the beginning, but now she thinks of him as one of her own and he has been a very close part of our family for about four years now. Another way that I found my situation to be rather relatable to this movie is how Joanna sees nothing wrong with the situation whatsoever whereas her parents are the ones with something to say. In my situation I also thought nothing of it until my mother came forward with her thoughts about it.
Throughout this entire film, my favorite part was probably the passion, and it can be found in this scene especially with Dr. And Mr. Prentice. He may have been angry but I feel that his primary emotion in that moment is passion. He is very passionate about Joanna and the love that they share with one another. He is willing to fight for her and willing to deal with the social ridicule that is to follow. Dr. Prentice is a very brave and intelligent man from what I have observed.White789
This video is very emotionally charged. John has spent the whole movie trying to avoid his parents’ disapproval for falling in love with a white girl. In this scene he finally snaps and unloads on his father, telling him that his father barely even knows him and has absolutely no right to tell him how to live his life or who to love. His father had been a mail carrier to provide for the family and pay the bills. John tells him that he owes his father absolutely nothing, because his father did what is expected of every parent: providing a life for their child. No child comes into the world of their own accord, the parents’ actions brought them there. The parent is now responsible for helping the child grow, learn, mature, and become a better human than the parent was. Some parents don’t see their children as anything other than an extension of themselves, or even as a retirement plan to be taken advantage of. The traditions of obeying and honoring parents and elders often becomes a point of age conflict, especially when the parent is expecting complete compliance from a child long grown into an adult. As John tells his father, children owe their parents nothing. Once a child becomes an adult, the parent needs to let go of the control they have over the child and embrace the fact that they have (hopefully) raised a competent adult who can be trusted to make the best decisions possible according to their own beliefs, which may or may not align with the beliefs of the parents. John says to his father, “You don’t own me” and emphasizes that his father barely even knows him as a person. He then goes on to say that the world in which his father grew up in was and is very different from the one John lives in and is creating for himself. As a doctor, his life will be much different from the life of his father, who had been a mail carrier. John also realizes that the world his children will live in and create for themselves will be even more different as society continues to change and progress. Minty789
ReplyDeleteYou can feel the anger in his voice when he was speaking to his father in this scene!!! This was obviously something that had been going on since john was a young child. Years and years of holding this kind of pain and misunderstanding has to be torture for anybody having to put up with such a thing. It’s never a good thing when you have to act as if someone’s way of things is correct when you know deep down that it’s not. His dad probably thought “oh he won’t say anything because it’s my way or the highway”, man he was so incorrect. The look of confusion and humbleness was rife all over his face and body language to the point where he had NO choice but to listen to his son john and what he had to say. The part where he said “you think like a colored man, I think like a man “stuck out to me like a sore thumb. That spoke to the oppression and “slavery and racist” mindset that many black men had back then, the old narrative “out your head down and work boy” , in which caused many black men to feel as if they were less than , unequal , and incompetent to do a better job than a white man and the only thing he had authority over was his family and barely that. That mental abuse over the years damaged john’s dad to the point where it was engraved in him that that’s how he was supposed to think and being a mailman for 30 years was all he would ever consider himself to be instead of a hardworking, upstanding, strong black man that took care of his family. John felt as if he was never understood who HE was as a man at all. John respected his dad enough to tell him that this wasn’t about to keep going on and on until the day his father passed away. He finally got what he felt of his chest and sociologically was a better man after it. -collegekid789-
ReplyDeleteDr. Prentice referenced his father a “colored man” instead of being a man like himself. He appeared to be highly upset at the start of the video expressing his feelings on his upbringing by his father. The conversation was very candid as there was not much social interaction happening here with the pair, the tension in the room was so thick you could cut it with a knife. Role strain may have been present during his younger years as his dad worked as a mail carrier. Thirty years ago individuals displayed actions, both interacted and reacted differently based on how society was shaped at the time. The doctor wanted his father to be open to change, and to simply, take a look at how he had conformed to behaviors brought on by his era.
ReplyDeleteWhat does being a colored man mean exactly? Had his father accepted the label placed upon him by people within the society and now his own son? In my opinion his dad appeared to be closed-minded, yet he seemed to be a hardworking man who was looking out for the best interest of his son. You “owe me” not “own me” Mr. Prentice says, which reflects a slave like mentality and for this reason he feel as though his dad will forever be closed off from all the world has to offer.
After expressing his love for his father he firmly stated until all of his fathers' generation have passed away would the weight be off his back. We raise our children based on specific morals and values that we were taught by our parents, family, and important people in society such as teachers. Some things may remain with them for a lifetime, other things may become questionable as they age and gain their own perspective on life via personal life experiences which may deviate from past ideologies. Miscegenation is more widespread in smaller towns then that of bigger cities today, yet it is becoming more accepting as the days go on. One should be open to change as growth comes with adaptation.
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This was one of my favorite scenes of the movie. I liked how John saw himself I just a man and not a black man. He was allowing his father to put him in a box and label him. He was just a man no different than anyone else. Yes, his skin may be different, but John was not going to segregate himself just how everyone else segregated him. John didn’t believe that he owed his father anything that his father owed him everything for bringing him into this world. I think the reason why John’s father felt like that was because he worked hard to get his son through medical school and he may have provided the funds, but John was the one that decided to work hard during school to get him at the social standing that he is in now. It just made it seem like his father was okay with being considered a colored man and just not a man of society looking past the color of his skin. Another thing this clip showed was the patriarchy, his father made it seem like he owned his son, and he would do as he said not whatever john wanted to do because he is the reason that John is who he is. Our parents are a big part of who we are, but they don’t have ownership over us we are our own person and we are going to do what makes us happy and john really did show that to his parents, he showed that he was going to marry Joanna without their permission, because he is a man. Back in the 60’s it seemed as if the older generation was the more the seemed okay with no change happening to our society. The clip shows the age stratification, Mr. Prentice felt as though he was able to decide his son’s future even though he son was able to make him own decisions. Vct789
ReplyDeleteThis was a very touching scene in the movie and told the viewers that he didn't view himself as just a colored man but as a man. He had a lot of anger and pain aimed towards his father and definitely needed to let it out. Johns father was very quiet and seemed to know not to interrupt him as he was talking,finally getting it off his chest. -collegekid789-
DeleteI agree that it was a powerful scene. Dr. Prentiss was very passionate about his new relationship and his intentions for this relationship. He was adamant that he was the one making this decision. I believe that he could tell that his father was concerned and was surprised by his response because after he blew up on his father, he calmed himself and spoke in a softer tone letting his father know how much he truly cared about him. MommaJ789
DeleteDr. Prentiss was very passionate when speaking with his father in the scene, "You think of yourself as a colored man." He explained the hardships that the people of his father’s generation had and that as long as the kept referring to themselves as "colored men" this view would never change. Dr. Prentiss explained that he thought of himself as a "man". Dr. Prentiss understood how much extra time and effort his father put in at work as a postal carrier to get him through medical school, but also believed that his determination and hard work is what got him where he is today.
ReplyDeleteThis movie reminds me a lot of when I was a teenager. My race is caucasion, although my relative ethnicity is Hispanic. In highschool, I dated outside of my race and was subjected to multiple counts of stereotypes. There was always someone that had a prejudice mind and tried to use me as a scapegoat to make themselves feel better or look cool because of the harmful racism they were portraying. I felt that at times not only my friends but also myself were victims of discrimination, just because we were together.
It will be an amazing place someday when we can say we suffer from pluralism, when all races and ethnicities are treated equally. The really sad thing today that I often see in areas where there is assimilation, especially among black African Americans, is that there are other black African Americans that complain that they are acting Caucasian or out of their race. It is usually that they are being made fun of because they are well-mannered and well-spoken with grammar that would make your English teacher proud. Why can’t a person be a person just like Dr. Prentiss sees himself as a man, not a colored man?
MommaJ789