1. It is not surprising that all lawmakers agree that children should have the best possible public education available to them. Now it is surprising that they don’t provide it for them, rather they like to be show puppets and claim they are working towards it. I mean just look at Peoria Public Schools for the most part their schools suck, heck look at the Atlanta Public School System(theirs also suck and they are in a huge city with even more lawmakers). It’s a falsehood to promise kids good education then not deliver it to EVERYONE.
2. The mention of youth being overage makes no sense. How can a youth be too old to go into state custody if they under the age of 18 (aka what a youth is)? It’s not like they can be waived into an adult detention center without extenuating causation such as murder, vicious sexual assault, etc.
3. It is terrible that 60 or so percent of jailed youth have below normal math and reading skills. This should not be the case because these kids should be in jail school all day long, unlike their civilian peers due to the fact that they have nothing else to do.
4. We can’t be having a third of kids in the juvenile justice system being labeled as special education. They need to go elsewhere, not to a jail. Maybe a mental house institution to serve their time.
5. It’s confusing how there are still privately run jails especially for youths. These kids should be receiving state discipline and state education not somebody else’s wishes.
6. Why would the CJCA send out a survey to be taken by a youth facilities administrator only to be filled out by a designee? The administrator should be completing the survey as they are in charge of the facility.
7. I am really surprised that there are 9 states that allow imprisoned youths to have access to work based learning like their civilian peers. This is great and provides the kids a great chance at landing a job outside of jail.
8. It is ridiculous that imprisoned youth do not get the same quality of education as their civilian peers, yet they are locked up all day and are the ones who would greatly benefit from it. 9. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated in adult prisons and jails 10. Approximately 36,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and are typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months. 11. Approximately 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities, typically for fewer than 60 days, and most often because they are awaiting a court disposition. This just really shows how slow and backed up our court system is. Our court system needs to undergo major renovation to speed the process up and get the petty crimes in and out in no time. 12. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services—a rate nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community. 13. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level and approximately 60 percent have repeated a grade. 14. The majority of incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. 15. Given incarcerated youths’ varying lengths of stay in facilities and diverse educational levels, using the same performance measures to assess student progress as those used for traditional public schools may be impractical. NDIrish123, Fireboy123.
It is not surprising that all lawmakers agree that children should have the best possible public education available to them. Now it is surprising that they don’t provide it for them, rather they like to be show puppets and claim they are working towards it. I mean just look at Peoria Public Schools for the most part their schools suck, heck look at the Atlanta Public School System(theirs also suck and they are in a huge city with even more lawmakers). It’s a falsehood to promise kids good education then not deliver it to EVERYONE. The mention of youth being overage makes no sense. How can a youth be too old to go into state custody if they under the age of 18 (aka what a youth is)? It’s not like they can be waived into an adult detention center without extenuating causation such as murder, vicious sexual assault, etc. It is terrible that 60 or so percent of jailed youth have below normal math and reading skills. This should not be the case because these kids should be in jail school all day long, unlike their civilian peers due to the fact that they have nothing else to do. We can’t be having a third of kids in the juvenile justice system being labeled as special education. They need to go elsewhere, not to a jail. Maybe a mental house institution to serve their time. It’s confusing how there are still privately run jails especially for youths. These kids should be receiving state discipline and state education not somebody else’s wishes. Why would the CJCA send out a survey to be taken by a youth facilities administrator only to be filled out by a designee? The administrator should be completing the survey as they are in charge of the facility. I am really surprised that there are 9 states that allow imprisoned youths to have access to work based learning like their civilian peers. This is great and provides the kids a great chance at landing a job outside of jail. It is ridiculous that imprisoned youth do not get the same quality of education as their civilian peers, yet they are locked up all day and are the ones who would greatly benefit from it. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated in adult prisons and jails is very surprising. Approximately 36,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and are typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months. Approximately 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities, typically for fewer than 60 days, and most often because they are awaiting a court disposition. This just really shows how slow and backed up our court system is. Our court system needs to undergo major renovation to speed the process up and get the petty crimes in and out in no time. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services—a rate nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level and approximately 60 percent have repeated a grade. The majority of incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. Given incarcerated youths’ varying lengths of stay in facilities and diverse educational levels, using the same performance measures to assess student progress as those used for traditional public schools may be impractical. NDIrish123, Fireboy123.
It is surprising and not surprising to know that half of the kids that are incarcerated have reading and math skills that lack below their grade level. This should not be the case cause even if they are in jail, they should be learning in jail the skills. If a kid is known to need special attention or special education. They may be okay but if they are not getting the attention they need. They should be put somewhere where they can get the right help they need in life to better themselves up. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated into adult prisons, I think if that is where they belong it is where they belong but I also don’t think a teenager needs to be with all adults because then he may get hurt or get into fights with the older crew. I feel like the youth feels like they have to fit in, so they do anything in there power too. It is not surprising that the law wants kids to have a great public education. Now the other hand it is very very surprising that they don’t have it available. I think it is wrong to promise something that can not be given. Most of incarcerated youth have been suspended or expelled from school, and many have dropped out completely. To me that is not a good sign because in life you need a good education to make it far or some what far. To hear that kids are dropping out means the school fails to teach kids or treat kids fairly. Overall I feel like a school should work with students overall to make sure they don’t drop out. Incarcerated youth chart 2013. 41% Privately run, 39% State-run. The kids should be receiving state education and state discipline not just somebody that wanted it privately ran. Approximately 18,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state juvenile correction agency as part of a court disposition. This statement proves how backed up, and slow our court system really is. Very shocking that 9 states allow imprisoned youths to have various acces to work based learning skills. It is shocking to hear that imprisoned youth do not get the same education then the peers that are not locked up. My theory is they are locked up all day anyways, they might as well get a good education and benefit from it. 36,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state correctional agency as part of a court disposition. Typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months, youth can be placed in a facility run by the state. 3 states out of 50 have state or local education agencies overseas education in all facilities. 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services. I think more states should be okay with giving the access for people who really wanna learn. 35 states have a GED preparation 34 states have credit recovery Babyblue123 Smile123
Exactly, kids in jail should be able to do math and reading at least equivalent to their civilian peers. They should have a more straight forward environment in jail than the outside world due to the fact that it is a very strict and structured world inside. No child besides the worst of the worst should go to an adult prison. The fact that there are any form of privately run prisons is stupid regardless if it is a juvenile one or adult. How can we trust these private individuals to be doing what they should be doing for our locked up juveniles. Sadly only 9 states allow youths to have vocational opportunities in jail. I am 100 percent certain that number is much higher for adult offenders. I completely agree that the youths should get quality education cause quite frankly they have nothing better to do being locked up 24/7. It's incredibly dumb that few states allow them to get GED's, gain school credit hours, etc. You are just setting these youths up for failure once again. In a world that is not accepting of them and has already slipped through the cracks once or maybe four thousand times. Fireboy123
Agree, The kids that are in the community generally get a better education that the kids that are incarcerated. But they kids that are incarcerated should get a even better education that the civilian kids in the surrounding communities. They should be trying to help these kids even more because they are at so much more risk at re-offending and ending back up in the system. I am referring to the big time offending juveniles not the one time done kids that come through. Studies have said that most of these kids in the juvenile detention centers do not even have the right amount of education when they enter the system because they have either dropped out of school or got expelled from school. So that just shows that when these kids enter the system they should be able to have better access to education just because they are the most at risk. If they use it right and it turns their life around they can also benefit to society because they have a education. Trojan123
Yes it is surprising and not surprising at the same time to know that over half of those youths who are incarcerated have reading and math skill levels that are below average. Also to know that over sixty percent of those incarcerated have had some sort of special education classes or they may have needed some sort of special education classes. If we lock those up who may not have the mental capacity we think they have, then they will never learn and never how to do anything or get a good job. Also most of these youths with far less learning skills probably had others telling them what to do and those ones were never in trouble for this. Illini123
Kids in prison should be allowed schooling no matter the situation. Now it may not be the best or the top of the line but at least it is something. If we don't teach kids in prison on how to read and do math and other basic things hoe can we expect them to go out in society and succeed. We can't expect that our main goal is to help these individuals that have gotten to this terrible part of their life and help them turn it around for the best, not to make there success impossible outside these walls. Even at the adult level we want them to be able to go out be successful in society and become a better person and for them to stay out of the system. If we don't give these types of opportunity at either the adult or juvenile level how can we expect anything to get better and how can we reverse the trend that has already started. NDIrish123.
1. 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services that are available to them in the community, such as credit recovery programs, GED preparation, and postsecondary courses. Which is a very good thing for the youth that are incarcerated and for their future when they get out. When these kids get out they will have some sort of postsecondary education which can help them tremendously and everyone else because they have some sort of education so they can benefit society. 2. I was shocked to learn that almost 6,000 juveniles were incarcerated in adult prisons. It makes me wonder why is that? Where these the baddest of the bad kids? or is room running out in juvenile detention centers. 3. Most juveniles who are locked up have a poor education level or are not receiving the proper necessities. This is very sad. Even though 13 states have some sort of programs for education in their juvenile detention centers, not all of them do. If they all did it could help like I have said before with the individual itself and for the society when they get out because they can contribute to society. 4. The majority of states collect data on improvements in reading and math assessments for these youths. This shows that the states actually do care about the children living within their state and want to better them. 5. more than half of states collect data on job training or vocational certificates earned by youth in these facility schools. 6. In almost half of the states, no lone government agency is accountable for guaranteeing that incarcerated youth changeover successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. Which should be changed. This is because the the detention centers should be trying to better these children so they do not end up back in the Juvenile detention center or the adult detention center when they get older. This would also benefit society to that when the Juveniles came out they had guidance to accomplish what they want and not end up back in jail. 7. About half of states share some outcome data on incarcerated youth with the state legislature and the governor. 8. Most incarcerated youth do not have access to the same educational and vocational services as their peers in the community. Which I feel should be the same. The incarcerated youth should get the educational programs as the kids in the community, if not better programs. They need these better programs because these are the youth that society needs to be helping the most so they do not re-offend and keep into the system, or do even worse crimes in the future. 9. I was surprised to learn how many juveniles were incarcerated in 2013 compared to 1997. 10. About half of states share some outcome data on incarcerated youth with the state legislature and the governor. 11. The majority of incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. So I think if someone dropps out of school or are expelled that they should be put on a close watch so people can prevent them from ending up in jail and helping them in some sort of way that would benefit them the most. 12. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services. 13. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level. 14. Around 60 percent have repeated a grade. 15. About 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities. Trojan123, PizzaLover123
There are many challenges facing incarcerated youth today. This can especially be multiplied by the amount of incarcerated youth within adult prisons. For the reported 6,000 juveniles incarcerated in adult prisons recovering from the damages to their lives caused by their behavior and incarceration can be especially harder. These juveniles were most likely waived to adult court and sentenced and incarcerated by an adult hearing and facility. These cases typically seem more severe than the average juvenile case. Unfortunately, youth who are sent to adult jails and prisons are met with an extensive challenge when being rehabilitated in more hostile environments. Ghost123
I felt the same exact way about the second point. Why are juveniles in adult prisons. Maybe they're some of the worst or maybe they were about to enter adulthood and the court just put them in adult prison to see let them see what it was like. Is that the life they really want. A life behind bars for small petty crimes. They might even see an adult that they know in there, but it is shocking that 6,000 juveniles are locked in adult prisons. Also I can understand how more than half of the incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level. Some kids don't see the point in school. Some are just worried about the money or nothing at all. They just probably don't care about school or have people to push them through it. Those kids not caring about school can lead to delinquent acts, such as Ditching, fighting, etc. DC123
Education and vocational One thing that stood out to me is the statistics for incarcerated youth (children). We have more than 60,000 children/teens incarcerated and within that 60000, 36,000 are people that belong to the state via. Group homes etc.)..... Of these incarcerated young adults some are kept in private facilities which are funded, whereas some of them are held in non funded public homes/facilities…. So to me i feel as if that is not right they should all be state funded so that way everyone gets the same help and education… would help to make everything even….. And then at that, only 8 states provide the same education and further opportunities as those with free privileges and so forth….and that's just not ok because most of these young adults know nothing but what they were raised around, so to stop them from bettering themselves is just terrible in my opinion…… 35 states offer ged preparations…. Meaning that in the rest of thes grey states it is either if you know it you know it if you don't then better luck next time 34 states only offer credit recovery…..meaning that if you mess up you're in deep unless you take the class again unless there is a extra class that can be taken. Only 35 states require the young adults to participate in the state education accountability system… And the fact that 39 percent of schools do not meet education standards is messed up like think about it we can manage to fix a road with an outstanding budget but we can not set our youth up for success? Seems pretty crappy to me pal……WS123
Some interesting things that I found out about the incarcerated youth was at least one-third identified as needing or already receiving special education services. At that rate the number is nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community. Another thing I noticed was that between the years 1997 and 2013 the youth incarcerated decreased about 40,000. I was surprised, first because the number was high in 1997 and also that it was wasn’t even close in incarceration rates. I would’ve thought maybe 20,000-30,000 incarcerated over time, but 75,000 is a huge number. The next thing I noticed was about the education while incarcerated. In 2015, CJCA sent an electronic survey to all state juvenile correctional agencies. The survey asked questions about the delivery of education services and the collection of student outcome data for nearly 36,000 incarcerated youth. The survey found that 26% of states provided incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services available to youth in the community. These include credit recovery programs, GED preparation , and postsecondary courses. They also found that 18% provided, work based-learning opportunities, career and technical education courses, and the opportunity to earn vocational certifications. I think it’s really good to offer the youth all those options while incarcerated. Gives them a chance at a better life once they’re out. The last thing that kind of stuck out and kind of surprised me, was that most states don’t collect, track, and report student outcome data for incarcerated youth in all facility schools. The state doesn’t care how the incarcerated youth are doing at trying to find a better way of life? 30 states (6%) didn’t even know what, if any, outcomes are tracked for youth who are incarcerated in privately run facilities, further demonstrating the challenges and inconsistencies that states with multiple entities overseeing and delivering educational and vocational services to this population. I just find it crazy that 30 states don’t even know about education in some juvenile prisons. DC123
Part One 1. I find it very interesting that policymakers across the spectrum think that all children should have access to a high quality public education. The main reason I find this interesting is the fact that this subject has been brought up multiple time yet it is still not available. Multiple people in the eyes of politics have mentioned this yet have done nothing to make it happen. 2. On a not so interesting but more disturbing note, more than half of the youth that are incarcerated on any given day in the U.S. are committed to state custody, and two thirds of them are youth of color. Where are the parents or guardians? Why are so many of these children under state custody? 3. Looking at the numbers from 1997 and 2013, it shows that less youth committed to state custody are being incarcerated. In 1997 there were 75,406 and in 2013 there were only 35,659. 4. It is sad that only 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services available to youth in the community. Yes I understand that these juveniles broke the law but we are setting them up for failure in the future when we aren't teaching them a thing. 5. Something that caught my eye was when the youth were referred to as "over-age and under-credited". I don't personally know how a youth can be over age, if they are under 18 they are considered youth. I also don’t understand where youth are several grade levels behind their peers. Why are so many youth being looked over and allowed to continue these paths without being held accountable until it is to late and they are incarcerated? 6. Only 11 states offer work based learning for incarcerated youth. I personally think that every state should offer this. How can we as a society expect these young people to come out of incarceration and be a functioning part of society when they have been taught nothing? 7. Having multiple entities overseeing and delivering these services can cause inconsistencies and problems. 60 percent of the states report not even knowing what, if any, outcomes are tracked for youth who are incarcerated in privately run facilities. 8. One point that stood out to me was that no single government agency is responsible for ensuring that incarcerated youth transitions successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. I feel like this should be something we pay attention to so we can ensure that these children are going to grow and change their ways. It’s only going to leave some children up to failure because they need that push in order to change their lives around.
9. The statistic that only 20 states collect data on weather or not the youth who were released from incarceration are enrolled in public school is a little concerning to me. I find that education is the best way to get a child to develop their minds better and have social interaction. It should be collected to show how effective it is on these children.
10. I find that it is important that home schooling is an acceptable exception for youth released from incarceration because there could be a safety concern with putting these children back into public school. I find that there is a lot judgment and labeling in public schools that it could possible do more harm than good for the delinquent.
11. It’s important that facility schools are using curricular standards and ensure that they make academic progress. I like to give every child a second change to make it in life and change their ways. They should be prepared to go into the workforce and make a difference for themselves. Everyone needs to get a great education in order to be successful in life. Sunshine123 & UofM123
I was also surprised to learn that on eleven states offer work based learning for incarcerated youth because it is hard to expect these juveniles to become a functioning part of society without being taught basic work skills and functions. I also agree that it is a bit disheartening to see that only about thirteen states offer incarcerated youths to the same type of educational services as other youth in the community because it does set them up for failure. A lack of quality education can lead to either a job that does not allow them to make a living or no job at all. This as we know can factor in to the individual resorting back to criminal behavior as a way just for them to get by. Gymlife123
Part two 12. Facility schools should be based on normal public school traditions in order to give them an equal opportunity as other children. It should not be forced, however, because it is only going to make things more stressful for these children.
13. I think that facility schools should keep records of academic success because it’s important to track their progress. There should be records to ensure that they are actually getting the education at a proper pace.
14. I agree that getting them into a secure gainful employment quickly upon release is helpful. They will get positive reinforcement by earning their own money and getting back on their feet.
15. It does surprise me that most student do choose to go back to public school rather than home schooled. I see how they would want freedom and be able to be on their own. Being stuck at home could make them feel enclosed again and they need the social interactions. Sunshine123 & UofM123
Approximately 60,000 juveniles are incarcerated during any given day within the United States. These incarcerated juveniles are being taken care of by state, local, and private agencies. Out of the responsibilities given to these agencies education has become one of the major ones. Research shows that the majority of incarcerated juveniles are over-aged and usually under credited when compared to juveniles in the community. This is likely a cause of the many challenges these juveniles face before, during, and even after their incarceration sentence. Most states in which juveniles are incarcerated do not maintain the same level of standards as their community counterparts. Furthermore, these incarcerated students aren’t tracked with the rest of the community by the state. This severely weakens the state’s educational system in that it does not assess and ascertain the needs of incarcerated juveniles. This failure of assessment is further handicapped by the discrepancies found between state and private correctional facilities. Educational opportunities available in the general public are superior to those offered in correctional facilities. This could be a direct result of a lack of funding for a lot of correctional institutions both state and private. However, most juvenile correctional facilities do offer some form of education to their inmates. Some of these forms include GED programs and trade skill classes. These educational courses help incarcerated juveniles try to catch up with their age group in the community. Since the quality of education offered within these institutions is usually not on par with the rest of the communities educational opportunities many juveniles who are incarcerated face the risk of falling even further behind. Once released many juveniles face challenges reincorporating back into public schools and universities. This issue puts these juveniles at a severe disadvantage of receiving a well off job or position within the community and thus may lead them to recidivate in the future. Through more stringent and universal standards we can provide incarcerated juveniles with a better form of education during their incarceration and thereby lower crime rates across the United States in the long run. Ghost123, Gymlife123 Part 1
13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services that are available to them in the community, such as credit recovery programs, GED preparation, and postsecondary courses. Which is a very good thing for the youth that are incarcerated and for their future when they get out. When these kids get out they will have some sort of postsecondary education which can help them tremendously and everyone else because they have some sort of education so they can benefit society. I was shocked to learn that almost 6,000 juveniles were incarcerated in adult prisons. It makes me wonder why is that? Where these the bad of the bad kids? or is, room running out in juvenile detention centers. Most juveniles who are locked up have a poor education level or are not receiving the proper necessities. This is very sad. Even though 13 states have some sort of programs for education in their juvenile detention centers, not all of them do. If they all did it could help like I have said before with the individual itself and for the society when they get out because they can contribute to society. Many states collect data on improvements in reading and math assessments for these youths. This shows that the states do care about the children living within their state and want to better them. more than half of states collect data on job training or vocational certificates earned by youth in these facility schools. It’s confusing how there are still privately run jails especially for youths. These kids should be receiving state discipline and state education not somebody else’s wishes. Why would the CJCA send out a survey to be taken by a youth facilities administrator only to be filled out by a designee? The administrator should be completing the survey as they oversee the facility. I am really surprised that there are 9 states that allow imprisoned youths to have access to work based learning like their civilian peers. This is great and provides the kids a great chance at landing a job outside of jail. It is ridiculous that imprisoned youth do not get the same quality of education as their civilian peers, yet they are locked up all day and are the ones who would greatly benefit from it. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated in adult prisons and jails. Approximately 36,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and are typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months. Approximately 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities, typically for fewer than 60 days, and most often because they are awaiting a court disposition. This just really shows how slow and backed up our court system is. Our court system needs to undergo major renovation to speed the process up and get the petty crimes in and out in no time. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services—a rate nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level and approximately 60 percent have repeated a grade. Most incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. Given incarcerated youths’ varying lengths of stay in facilities and diverse educational levels, using the same performance measures to assess student progress as those used for traditional public schools may be impractical. Pack123 Jeeper123
I find that it is extremely important that youth who are back from incarceration should be brought into the education system. I believe that all states should focus on the rehabilitation of these children so that the next generation of criminals goes down. We need to teach and lead these children to the right path in life so that they can learn to do good and not bad. A fact that stood out to me as well would be that 60,000 juveniles are incarcerated any given day. We should put funding into educational programs for these juveniles because I believe that it would only benefit them rather than letting them learn and discover new ways to be a better criminal. I believe that they should be highly encouraged to get into the workforce and make a living for themselves. They need positive reinforcement in order to gain the strength to change their mindsets. Sunshine123 & UofM123
Part 2-There many different things that I found to be point of interest in this article. One finding that I found to be interesting is that roughly 36,000 youths are committed to the hands of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and that those youths are typically incarcerated for anywhere between three and twelve months. These juveniles can be placed in to state run facilities which range from nonprofit to for-profit organizations. The facilities include secure facilities as well as a range of non-secure facilities such as residential treatment centers. Another finding in this article that I found interesting was that most incarcerated youths do not have access to the same educational and vocational services as their peers in the community, and that they do not attend schools that have the same rigorous curriculum and student performance standards as traditional public schools. This means lack of quality education, which can in turn lead to the individual not having a steady reliable job and may resort back criminal behavior as a means to get by. It was not very surprising to me when I found in this article that it had mentioned the majority of incarcerated youth were either suspended or expelled from school and that most of them had dropped out of school all together before their incarceration. If the youths are incarcerated it obviously would mean that they are committing delinquent acts which could involve getting into fights at school or stealing objects or even making threats to staff or other students which will lead to suspension or expulsion. I think that it is great that youth are reenrolled into an educational or vocational setting before being released from a facility and that they attend the school or program immediately upon their release. This is a major step toward their rehabilitation process, it really can help keep them from being with the wrong group of people and going back to their delinquent acts. Gymlife123 Ghost123
There are more than sixty thousand youths who are incarcerated on any given day in the United States, and of those sixty thousand almost six thousand are incarcerated in adult prisons. This shows that youths are starting to do more violent crimes and we are now starting to treat them like adults for the crime. At least one in every three incarcerated youths either need special education or they are already receiving special education. If these youths do not have the full knowledge they need, then they will not be able to know that when they commit a crime that there may be some consequences that come with it. If we lock them up and they need these education how will they get it in prison or jail? Over sixty percent of those youth who are incarcerated have had to repeat a grade over Over half of them have math and reading skills that are significantly lower than their peers. This goes along with the one’s who have had or need special education, except these youths should be able to tell right from wrong and be able to know that certain bad behaviors have certain consequences. The majority of these youths were either suspended or expelled from school or they had just to decided to drop out all together before they were incarcerated. If they never finish school, then they will not be able to get a good job and will have to resort to a life of crime to get money or they may just become homeless for the rest of their lives. Back in 1997 over half of the youths incarcerated were in state run facilities and in 2013 we have more youths incarcerated in privately run facilities. If more youths are in private run facilities, then how will we know if they are being treated like human beings and if they are actually learning anything if this facility is suppose to offer rehab or schooling for these youths. Illini123
Part One I find it very interesting that policymakers across the spectrum think that all children should have access to a high quality public education. The main reason I find this interesting is the fact that this subject has been brought up multiple time yet it is still not available. Multiple people in the eyes of politics have mentioned this yet have done nothing to make it happen. On a not so interesting but more disturbing note, more than half of the youth that are incarcerated on any given day in the U.S. are committed to state custody, and two thirds of them are youth of color. Where are the parents or guardians? Why are so many of these children under state custody? Looking at the numbers from 1997 and 2013, it shows that less youth committed to state custody are being incarcerated. In 1997 there were 75,406 and in 2013 there were only 35,659. It is sad that only 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services available to youth in the community. Yes I understand that these juveniles broke the law but we are setting them up for failure in the future when we aren't teaching them a thing. Sunshine123 & UofM123
Part Two Something that caught my eye was when the youth were referred to as "over-age and under-credited". I don't personally know how a youth can be over age, if they are under 18 they are considered youth. I also don’t understand where youth are several grade levels behind their peers. Why are so many youth being looked over and allowed to continue these paths without being held accountable until it is to late and they are incarcerated? Only 11 states offer work based learning for incarcerated youth. I personally think that every state should offer this. How can we as a society expect these young people to come out of incarceration and be a functioning part of society when they have been taught nothing? Having multiple entities overseeing and delivering these services can cause inconsistencies and problems. 60 percent of the states report not even knowing what, if any, outcomes are tracked for youth who are incarcerated in privately run facilities. One point that stood out to me was that no single government agency is responsible for ensuring that incarcerated youth transitions successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. I feel like this should be something we pay attention to so we can ensure that these children are going to grow and change their ways. It’s only going to leave some children up to failure because they need that push in order to change their lives around. The statistic that only 20 states collect data on weather or not the youth who were released from incarceration are enrolled in public school is a little concerning to me. I find that education is the best way to get a child to develop their minds better and have social interaction. It should be collected to show how effective it is on these children. I find that it is important that home schooling is an acceptable exception for youth released from incarceration because there could be a safety concern with putting these children back into public school. I find that there is a lot judgment and labeling in public schools that it could possible do more harm than good for the delinquent. It’s important that facility schools are using curricular standards and ensure that they make academic progress. I like to give every child a second change to make it in life and change their ways. They should be prepared to go into the workforce and make a difference for themselves. Everyone needs to get a great education in order to be successful in life. Facility schools should be based on normal public school traditions in order to give them an equal opportunity as other children. It should not be forced, however, because it is only going to make things more stressful for these children. I think that facility schools should keep records of academic success because it’s important to track their progress. There should be records to ensure that they are actually getting the education at a proper pace. I agree that getting them into a secure gainful employment quickly upon release is helpful. They will get positive reinforcement by earning their own money and getting back on their feet. It does surprise me that most student do choose to go back to public school rather than home schooled. I see how they would want freedom and be able to be on their own. Being stuck at home could make them feel enclosed again and they need the social interactions. Sunshine123 & UofM123
Part 1: Something I found interesting was that most incarcerated youth do not have access to the same educational and vocational services as their peers in the community, and they do not attend schools that have the same rigorous curriculum and student performance standards as traditional public schools. It’s not surprising honestly. With them being incarcerated, it’s no wonder that they don’t get to experience all the same educational experiences that a model citizen child would. It would seem like the prisons or states wouldn’t really want to invest that much money into educating a bunch of trouble making kids. When it stated that most states do not collect, track, and report student outcome data for incarcerated youth in all facility schools, it kind of made sense. Why would they necessarily care all the much? It’s not like after they got free of the system they would be able to make much of their lives, even with a proper education. The label the system gives the kids damages their entire future. I did find it interesting though as after that it had stated that 17 states (34 percent) actually do analyze the student outcome data they have by individual facilities to evaluate the performance of schools, education providers, and educators. I’d have to sit and think that those kids in those areas, schools or programs really lucked out because they are only within the small percent that is really treated like their education matters. Not all kids get those kinds of opportunities when incarcerated. It was stated that policies and practices employed in most states make it especially challenging for youth released from incarceration to make an effective transition to community-based educational or vocational settings. That isn’t surprising because I can imagine that things outside the walls of their prisons change drastically each year in comparison to know the prison has information on. A lot of the things they could be learning might be out of date, which would make adjusting to new things outside in civilization a lot harder than it would be if they never changed things. But a sad fact that was stated was that in nearly half of the states, no single government agency is responsible for ensuring that incarcerated youth transition successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. Instead, these states leave it up to community-based organizations or parents/guardians to ensure youth are reenrolled. Only 11 states (22 percent) have a dedicated education transition liaison responsible for facilitating these transitions. SomethingProfound123
Part 2: It’s interesting to know that in more than one-third of states, incarcerated youth are automatically reenrolled into an alternative educational setting—which often do not meet state curricular and performance standards and suffer from lower graduation rates than traditional public schools—rather than their home school or another appropriate educational or vocational setting. In fact, it was stated that in most states, it is likely that policymakers and even state agency leaders lack the full picture of what educational and vocational services are available to incarcerated youth; who is responsible for the provision of these services; and what, if any, outcomes students are achieving. My question is, how could they be so blind an ignorant? I understand that these kids are juveniles and they have caused a lot of trouble to be thrown in there but they shouldn’t be treated like they are completely meaningless or worthless to society. I’m sure, given the chance, there would be at least one or two that could come out of a bad penitentiary like that and make something of themselves had they actually been given the proper chance to advance. If there is such a problem with the task of education being too big for some people to actually manage, then I could agree with the recommendation of designating a single agency to be responsible for ensuring youths’ successful transition to a community-based educational or vocational setting after release from incarceration so that the ‘in the joint’ education system isn’t over bared with the burden of focusing on kids in there and the ones getting out of there. SomethingProfound123
1. It is not surprising that all lawmakers agree that children should have the best possible public education available to them. Now it is surprising that they don’t provide it for them, rather they like to be show puppets and claim they are working towards it. I mean just look at Peoria Public Schools for the most part their schools suck, heck look at the Atlanta Public School System(theirs also suck and they are in a huge city with even more lawmakers). It’s a falsehood to promise kids good education then not deliver it to EVERYONE.
ReplyDelete2. The mention of youth being overage makes no sense. How can a youth be too old to go into state custody if they under the age of 18 (aka what a youth is)? It’s not like they can be waived into an adult detention center without extenuating causation such as murder, vicious sexual assault, etc.
3. It is terrible that 60 or so percent of jailed youth have below normal math and reading skills. This should not be the case because these kids should be in jail school all day long, unlike their civilian peers due to the fact that they have nothing else to do.
4. We can’t be having a third of kids in the juvenile justice system being labeled as special education. They need to go elsewhere, not to a jail. Maybe a mental house institution to serve their time.
5. It’s confusing how there are still privately run jails especially for youths. These kids should be receiving state discipline and state education not somebody else’s wishes.
6. Why would the CJCA send out a survey to be taken by a youth facilities administrator only to be filled out by a designee? The administrator should be completing the survey as they are in charge of the facility.
7. I am really surprised that there are 9 states that allow imprisoned youths to have access to work based learning like their civilian peers. This is great and provides the kids a great chance at landing a job outside of jail.
8. It is ridiculous that imprisoned youth do not get the same quality of education as their civilian peers, yet they are locked up all day and are the ones who would greatly benefit from it.
9. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated in adult prisons
and jails
10. Approximately 36,000 youth are committed to the
custody of the state juvenile correctional agency as part
of a court disposition and are typically incarcerated for
3 to 12 months.
11. Approximately 18,000 youth are incarcerated in
primarily locally run detention facilities, typically for
fewer than 60 days, and most often because they are
awaiting a court disposition. This just really shows how slow and backed up our court system is. Our court system needs to undergo major renovation to speed the process up and get the petty crimes in and out in no time.
12. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified
as needing or already receiving special education
services—a rate nearly four times higher than youth
attending school in the community.
13. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading
and math skills significantly below their grade level
and approximately 60 percent have repeated a grade.
14. The majority of incarcerated youth were suspended
and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of
school all together before being incarcerated.
15. Given incarcerated youths’ varying lengths of stay in facilities and diverse educational levels, using the same
performance measures to assess student progress as those used for traditional public schools may be impractical. NDIrish123, Fireboy123.
It is not surprising that all lawmakers agree that children should have the best possible public education available to them. Now it is surprising that they don’t provide it for them, rather they like to be show puppets and claim they are working towards it. I mean just look at Peoria Public Schools for the most part their schools suck, heck look at the Atlanta Public School System(theirs also suck and they are in a huge city with even more lawmakers). It’s a falsehood to promise kids good education then not deliver it to EVERYONE. The mention of youth being overage makes no sense. How can a youth be too old to go into state custody if they under the age of 18 (aka what a youth is)? It’s not like they can be waived into an adult detention center without extenuating causation such as murder, vicious sexual assault, etc. It is terrible that 60 or so percent of jailed youth have below normal math and reading skills. This should not be the case because these kids should be in jail school all day long, unlike their civilian peers due to the fact that they have nothing else to do. We can’t be having a third of kids in the juvenile justice system being labeled as special education. They need to go elsewhere, not to a jail. Maybe a mental house institution to serve their time. It’s confusing how there are still privately run jails especially for youths. These kids should be receiving state discipline and state education not somebody else’s wishes. Why would the CJCA send out a survey to be taken by a youth facilities administrator only to be filled out by a designee? The administrator should be completing the survey as they are in charge of the facility. I am really surprised that there are 9 states that allow imprisoned youths to have access to work based learning like their civilian peers. This is great and provides the kids a great chance at landing a job outside of jail. It is ridiculous that imprisoned youth do not get the same quality of education as their civilian peers, yet they are locked up all day and are the ones who would greatly benefit from it. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated in adult prisons and jails is very surprising. Approximately 36,000 youth are committed to the
Deletecustody of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and are typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months. Approximately 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities, typically for fewer than 60 days, and most often because they are
awaiting a court disposition. This just really shows how slow and backed up our court system is. Our court system needs to undergo major renovation to speed the process up and get the petty crimes in and out in no time. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services—a rate nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community.
More than half of incarcerated youth have reading
and math skills significantly below their grade level and approximately 60 percent have repeated a grade. The majority of incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. Given incarcerated youths’ varying lengths of stay in facilities and diverse educational levels, using the same
performance measures to assess student progress as those used for traditional public schools may be impractical. NDIrish123, Fireboy123.
It is surprising and not surprising to know that half of the kids that are incarcerated have reading and math skills that lack below their grade level. This should not be the case cause even if they are in jail, they should be learning in jail the skills.
ReplyDeleteIf a kid is known to need special attention or special education. They may be okay but if they are not getting the attention they need. They should be put somewhere where they can get the right help they need in life to better themselves up.
Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated into adult prisons, I think if that is where they belong it is where they belong but I also don’t think a teenager needs to be with all adults because then he may get hurt or get into fights with the older crew. I feel like the youth feels like they have to fit in, so they do anything in there power too.
It is not surprising that the law wants kids to have a great public education. Now the other hand it is very very surprising that they don’t have it available. I think it is wrong to promise something that can not be given.
Most of incarcerated youth have been suspended or expelled from school, and many have dropped out completely. To me that is not a good sign because in life you need a good education to make it far or some what far. To hear that kids are dropping out means the school fails to teach kids or treat kids fairly. Overall I feel like a school should work with students overall to make sure they don’t drop out.
Incarcerated youth chart 2013. 41% Privately run, 39% State-run. The kids should be receiving state education and state discipline not just somebody that wanted it privately ran.
Approximately 18,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state juvenile correction agency as part of a court disposition. This statement proves how backed up, and slow our court system really is.
Very shocking that 9 states allow imprisoned youths to have various acces to work based learning skills.
It is shocking to hear that imprisoned youth do not get the same education then the peers that are not locked up. My theory is they are locked up all day anyways, they might as well get a good education and benefit from it.
36,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state correctional agency as part of a court disposition.
Typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months, youth can be placed in a facility run by the state.
3 states out of 50 have state or local education agencies overseas education in all facilities.
13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services. I think more states should be okay with giving the access for people who really wanna learn.
35 states have a GED preparation
34 states have credit recovery
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Exactly, kids in jail should be able to do math and reading at least equivalent to their civilian peers. They should have a more straight forward environment in jail than the outside world due to the fact that it is a very strict and structured world inside. No child besides the worst of the worst should go to an adult prison. The fact that there are any form of privately run prisons is stupid regardless if it is a juvenile one or adult. How can we trust these private individuals to be doing what they should be doing for our locked up juveniles. Sadly only 9 states allow youths to have vocational opportunities in jail. I am 100 percent certain that number is much higher for adult offenders. I completely agree that the youths should get quality education cause quite frankly they have nothing better to do being locked up 24/7. It's incredibly dumb that few states allow them to get GED's, gain school credit hours, etc. You are just setting these youths up for failure once again. In a world that is not accepting of them and has already slipped through the cracks once or maybe four thousand times. Fireboy123
DeleteAgree, The kids that are in the community generally get a better education that the kids that are incarcerated. But they kids that are incarcerated should get a even better education that the civilian kids in the surrounding communities. They should be trying to help these kids even more because they are at so much more risk at re-offending and ending back up in the system. I am referring to the big time offending juveniles not the one time done kids that come through. Studies have said that most of these kids in the juvenile detention centers do not even have the right amount of education when they enter the system because they have either dropped out of school or got expelled from school. So that just shows that when these kids enter the system they should be able to have better access to education just because they are the most at risk. If they use it right and it turns their life around they can also benefit to society because they have a education. Trojan123
DeleteYes it is surprising and not surprising at the same time to know that over half of those youths who are incarcerated have reading and math skill levels that are below average. Also to know that over sixty percent of those incarcerated have had some sort of special education classes or they may have needed some sort of special education classes. If we lock those up who may not have the mental capacity we think they have, then they will never learn and never how to do anything or get a good job. Also most of these youths with far less learning skills probably had others telling them what to do and those ones were never in trouble for this.
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Kids in prison should be allowed schooling no matter the situation. Now it may not be the best or the top of the line but at least it is something. If we don't teach kids in prison on how to read and do math and other basic things hoe can we expect them to go out in society and succeed. We can't expect that our main goal is to help these individuals that have gotten to this terrible part of their life and help them turn it around for the best, not to make there success impossible outside these walls. Even at the adult level we want them to be able to go out be successful in society and become a better person and for them to stay out of the system. If we don't give these types of opportunity at either the adult or juvenile level how can we expect anything to get better and how can we reverse the trend that has already started. NDIrish123.
Delete1. 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services that are available to them in the community, such as credit recovery programs, GED preparation, and postsecondary courses. Which is a very good thing for the youth that are incarcerated and for their future when they get out. When these kids get out they will have some sort of postsecondary education which can help them tremendously and everyone else because they have some sort of education so they can benefit society.
ReplyDelete2. I was shocked to learn that almost 6,000 juveniles were incarcerated in adult prisons. It makes me wonder why is that? Where these the baddest of the bad kids? or is room running out in juvenile detention centers.
3. Most juveniles who are locked up have a poor education level or are not receiving the proper necessities. This is very sad. Even though 13 states have some sort of programs for education in their juvenile detention centers, not all of them do. If they all did it could help like I have said before with the individual itself and for the society when they get out because they can contribute to society.
4. The majority of states collect data on improvements in reading and math assessments for these youths. This shows that the states actually do care about the children living within their state and want to better them.
5. more than half of states collect data on job training or vocational certificates earned by youth in these facility schools.
6. In almost half of the states, no lone government agency is accountable for guaranteeing that incarcerated youth changeover successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. Which should be changed. This is because the the detention centers should be trying to better these children so they do not end up back in the Juvenile detention center or the adult detention center when they get older. This would also benefit society to that when the Juveniles came out they had guidance to accomplish what they want and not end up back in jail.
7. About half of states share some outcome data on incarcerated youth with the state legislature and the governor.
8. Most incarcerated youth do not have access to the same educational and vocational services as their peers in the community. Which I feel should be the same. The incarcerated youth should get the educational programs as the kids in the community, if not better programs. They need these better programs because these are the youth that society needs to be helping the most so they do not re-offend and keep into the system, or do even worse crimes in the future.
9. I was surprised to learn how many juveniles were incarcerated in 2013 compared to 1997.
10. About half of states share some outcome data on incarcerated youth with the state legislature and the governor.
11. The majority of incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. So I think if someone dropps out of school or are expelled that they should be put on a close watch so people can prevent them from ending up in jail and helping them in some sort of way that would benefit them the most.
12. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services.
13. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level.
14. Around 60 percent have repeated a grade.
15. About 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities. Trojan123, PizzaLover123
There are many challenges facing incarcerated youth today. This can especially be multiplied by the amount of incarcerated youth within adult prisons. For the reported 6,000 juveniles incarcerated in adult prisons recovering from the damages to their lives caused by their behavior and incarceration can be especially harder. These juveniles were most likely waived to adult court and sentenced and incarcerated by an adult hearing and facility. These cases typically seem more severe than the average juvenile case. Unfortunately, youth who are sent to adult jails and prisons are met with an extensive challenge when being rehabilitated in more hostile environments. Ghost123
DeleteI felt the same exact way about the second point. Why are juveniles in adult prisons. Maybe they're some of the worst or maybe they were about to enter adulthood and the court just put them in adult prison to see let them see what it was like. Is that the life they really want. A life behind bars for small petty crimes. They might even see an adult that they know in there, but it is shocking that 6,000 juveniles are locked in adult prisons. Also I can understand how more than half of the incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level. Some kids don't see the point in school. Some are just worried about the money or nothing at all. They just probably don't care about school or have people to push them through it. Those kids not caring about school can lead to delinquent acts, such as Ditching, fighting, etc. DC123
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ReplyDeleteOne thing that stood out to me is the statistics for incarcerated youth (children). We have more than 60,000 children/teens incarcerated and within that 60000, 36,000 are people that belong to the state via. Group homes etc.).....
Of these incarcerated young adults some are kept in private facilities which are funded, whereas some of them are held in non funded public homes/facilities…. So to me i feel as if that is not right they should all be state funded so that way everyone gets the same help and education… would help to make everything even…..
And then at that, only 8 states provide the same education and further opportunities as those with free privileges and so forth….and that's just not ok because most of these young adults know nothing but what they were raised around, so to stop them from bettering themselves is just terrible in my opinion……
35 states offer ged preparations…. Meaning that in the rest of thes grey states it is either if you know it you know it if you don't then better luck next time
34 states only offer credit recovery…..meaning that if you mess up you're in deep unless you take the class again unless there is a extra class that can be taken.
Only 35 states require the young adults to participate in the state education accountability system…
And the fact that 39 percent of schools do not meet education standards is messed up like think about it we can manage to fix a road with an outstanding budget but we can not set our youth up for success? Seems pretty crappy to me pal……WS123
Some interesting things that I found out about the incarcerated youth was at least one-third identified as needing or already receiving special education services. At that rate the number is nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community. Another thing I noticed was that between the years 1997 and 2013 the youth incarcerated decreased about 40,000. I was surprised, first because the number was high in 1997 and also that it was wasn’t even close in incarceration rates. I would’ve thought maybe 20,000-30,000 incarcerated over time, but 75,000 is a huge number. The next thing I noticed was about the education while incarcerated. In 2015, CJCA sent an electronic survey to all state juvenile correctional agencies. The survey asked questions about the delivery of education services and the collection of student outcome data for nearly 36,000 incarcerated youth. The survey found that 26% of states provided incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services available to youth in the community. These include credit recovery programs, GED preparation , and postsecondary courses. They also found that 18% provided, work based-learning opportunities, career and technical education courses, and the opportunity to earn vocational certifications. I think it’s really good to offer the youth all those options while incarcerated. Gives them a chance at a better life once they’re out. The last thing that kind of stuck out and kind of surprised me, was that most states don’t collect, track, and report student outcome data for incarcerated youth in all facility schools. The state doesn’t care how the incarcerated youth are doing at trying to find a better way of life? 30 states (6%) didn’t even know what, if any, outcomes are tracked for youth who are incarcerated in privately run facilities, further demonstrating the challenges and inconsistencies that states with multiple entities overseeing and delivering educational and vocational services to this population.
DeleteI just find it crazy that 30 states don’t even know about education in some juvenile prisons. DC123
Part One
ReplyDelete1. I find it very interesting that policymakers across the spectrum think that all children should have access to a high quality public education. The main reason I find this interesting is the fact that this subject has been brought up multiple time yet it is still not available. Multiple people in the eyes of politics have mentioned this yet have done nothing to make it happen.
2. On a not so interesting but more disturbing note, more than half of the youth that are incarcerated on any given day in the U.S. are committed to state custody, and two thirds of them are youth of color. Where are the parents or guardians? Why are so many of these children under state custody?
3. Looking at the numbers from 1997 and 2013, it shows that less youth committed to state custody are being incarcerated. In 1997 there were 75,406 and in 2013 there were only 35,659.
4. It is sad that only 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services available to youth in the community. Yes I understand that these juveniles broke the law but we are setting them up for failure in the future when we aren't teaching them a thing.
5. Something that caught my eye was when the youth were referred to as "over-age and under-credited". I don't personally know how a youth can be over age, if they are under 18 they are considered youth. I also don’t understand where youth are several grade levels behind their peers. Why are so many youth being looked over and allowed to continue these paths without being held accountable until it is to late and they are incarcerated?
6. Only 11 states offer work based learning for incarcerated youth. I personally think that every state should offer this. How can we as a society expect these young people to come out of incarceration and be a functioning part of society when they have been taught nothing?
7. Having multiple entities overseeing and delivering these services can cause inconsistencies and problems. 60 percent of the states report not even knowing what, if any, outcomes are tracked for youth who are incarcerated in privately run facilities.
8. One point that stood out to me was that no single government agency is responsible for ensuring that incarcerated youth transitions successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. I feel like this should be something we pay attention to so we can ensure that these children are going to grow and change their ways. It’s only going to leave some children up to failure because they need that push in order to change their lives around.
9. The statistic that only 20 states collect data on weather or not the youth who were released from incarceration are enrolled in public school is a little concerning to me. I find that education is the best way to get a child to develop their minds better and have social interaction. It should be collected to show how effective it is on these children.
10. I find that it is important that home schooling is an acceptable exception for youth released from incarceration because there could be a safety concern with putting these children back into public school. I find that there is a lot judgment and labeling in public schools that it could possible do more harm than good for the delinquent.
11. It’s important that facility schools are using curricular standards and ensure that they make academic progress. I like to give every child a second change to make it in life and change their ways. They should be prepared to go into the workforce and make a difference for themselves. Everyone needs to get a great education in order to be successful in life.
Sunshine123 & UofM123
I was also surprised to learn that on eleven states offer work based learning for incarcerated youth because it is hard to expect these juveniles to become a functioning part of society without being taught basic work skills and functions. I also agree that it is a bit disheartening to see that only about thirteen states offer incarcerated youths to the same type of educational services as other youth in the community because it does set them up for failure. A lack of quality education can lead to either a job that does not allow them to make a living or no job at all. This as we know can factor in to the individual resorting back to criminal behavior as a way just for them to get by. Gymlife123
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ReplyDelete12. Facility schools should be based on normal public school traditions in order to give them an equal opportunity as other children. It should not be forced, however, because it is only going to make things more stressful for these children.
13. I think that facility schools should keep records of academic success because it’s important to track their progress. There should be records to ensure that they are actually getting the education at a proper pace.
14. I agree that getting them into a secure gainful employment quickly upon release is helpful. They will get positive reinforcement by earning their own money and getting back on their feet.
15. It does surprise me that most student do choose to go back to public school rather than home schooled. I see how they would want freedom and be able to be on their own. Being stuck at home could make them feel enclosed again and they need the social interactions.
Sunshine123 & UofM123
Approximately 60,000 juveniles are incarcerated during any given day within the United States. These incarcerated juveniles are being taken care of by state, local, and private agencies. Out of the responsibilities given to these agencies education has become one of the major ones. Research shows that the majority of incarcerated juveniles are over-aged and usually under credited when compared to juveniles in the community. This is likely a cause of the many challenges these juveniles face before, during, and even after their incarceration sentence. Most states in which juveniles are incarcerated do not maintain the same level of standards as their community counterparts. Furthermore, these incarcerated students aren’t tracked with the rest of the community by the state. This severely weakens the state’s educational system in that it does not assess and ascertain the needs of incarcerated juveniles. This failure of assessment is further handicapped by the discrepancies found between state and private correctional facilities. Educational opportunities available in the general public are superior to those offered in correctional facilities. This could be a direct result of a lack of funding for a lot of correctional institutions both state and private. However, most juvenile correctional facilities do offer some form of education to their inmates. Some of these forms include GED programs and trade skill classes. These educational courses help incarcerated juveniles try to catch up with their age group in the community. Since the quality of education offered within these institutions is usually not on par with the rest of the communities educational opportunities many juveniles who are incarcerated face the risk of falling even further behind. Once released many juveniles face challenges reincorporating back into public schools and universities. This issue puts these juveniles at a severe disadvantage of receiving a well off job or position within the community and thus may lead them to recidivate in the future. Through more stringent and universal standards we can provide incarcerated juveniles with a better form of education during their incarceration and thereby lower crime rates across the United States in the long run. Ghost123, Gymlife123 Part 1
ReplyDelete13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services that are available to them in the community, such as credit recovery programs, GED preparation, and postsecondary courses. Which is a very good thing for the youth that are incarcerated and for their future when they get out. When these kids get out they will have some sort of postsecondary education which can help them tremendously and everyone else because they have some sort of education so they can benefit society. I was shocked to learn that almost 6,000 juveniles were incarcerated in adult prisons. It makes me wonder why is that? Where these the bad of the bad kids? or is, room running out in juvenile detention centers. Most juveniles who are locked up have a poor education level or are not receiving the proper necessities. This is very sad. Even though 13 states have some sort of programs for education in their juvenile detention centers, not all of them do. If they all did it could help like I have said before with the individual itself and for the society when they get out because they can contribute to society. Many states collect data on improvements in reading and math assessments for these youths. This shows that the states do care about the children living within their state and want to better them. more than half of states collect data on job training or vocational certificates earned by youth in these facility schools. It’s confusing how there are still privately run jails especially for youths. These kids should be receiving state discipline and state education not somebody else’s wishes. Why would the CJCA send out a survey to be taken by a youth facilities administrator only to be filled out by a designee? The administrator should be completing the survey as they oversee the facility. I am really surprised that there are 9 states that allow imprisoned youths to have access to work based learning like their civilian peers. This is great and provides the kids a great chance at landing a job outside of jail. It is ridiculous that imprisoned youth do not get the same quality of education as their civilian peers, yet they are locked up all day and are the ones who would greatly benefit from it. Nearly 6,000 youth are incarcerated in adult prisons and jails. Approximately 36,000 youth are committed to the custody of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and are typically incarcerated for 3 to 12 months. Approximately 18,000 youth are incarcerated in primarily locally run detention facilities, typically for fewer than 60 days, and most often because they are awaiting a court disposition. This just really shows how slow and backed up our court system is. Our court system needs to undergo major renovation to speed the process up and get the petty crimes in and out in no time. At least one in three incarcerated youth is identified as needing or already receiving special education services—a rate nearly four times higher than youth attending school in the community. More than half of incarcerated youth have reading and math skills significantly below their grade level and approximately 60 percent have repeated a grade. Most incarcerated youth were suspended and/or expelled from school, and many had dropped out of school all together before being incarcerated. Given incarcerated youths’ varying lengths of stay in facilities and diverse educational levels, using the same performance measures to assess student progress as those used for traditional public schools may be impractical. Pack123 Jeeper123
ReplyDeleteI find that it is extremely important that youth who are back from incarceration should be brought into the education system. I believe that all states should focus on the rehabilitation of these children so that the next generation of criminals goes down. We need to teach and lead these children to the right path in life so that they can learn to do good and not bad. A fact that stood out to me as well would be that 60,000 juveniles are incarcerated any given day. We should put funding into educational programs for these juveniles because I believe that it would only benefit them rather than letting them learn and discover new ways to be a better criminal. I believe that they should be highly encouraged to get into the workforce and make a living for themselves. They need positive reinforcement in order to gain the strength to change their mindsets.
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Part 2-There many different things that I found to be point of interest in this article. One finding that I found to be interesting is that roughly 36,000 youths are committed to the hands of the state juvenile correctional agency as part of a court disposition and that those youths are typically incarcerated for anywhere between three and twelve months. These juveniles can be placed in to state run facilities which range from nonprofit to for-profit organizations. The facilities include secure facilities as well as a range of non-secure facilities such as residential treatment centers. Another finding in this article that I found interesting was that most incarcerated youths do not have access to the same educational and vocational services as their peers in the community, and that they do not attend schools that have the same rigorous curriculum and student performance standards as traditional public schools. This means lack of quality education, which can in turn lead to the individual not having a steady reliable job and may resort back criminal behavior as a means to get by. It was not very surprising to me when I found in this article that it had mentioned the majority of incarcerated youth were either suspended or expelled from school and that most of them had dropped out of school all together before their incarceration. If the youths are incarcerated it obviously would mean that they are committing delinquent acts which could involve getting into fights at school or stealing objects or even making threats to staff or other students which will lead to suspension or expulsion. I think that it is great that youth are reenrolled into an educational or vocational setting before being released from a facility and that they attend the school or program immediately upon their release. This is a major step toward their rehabilitation process, it really can help keep them from being with the wrong group of people and going back to their delinquent acts. Gymlife123 Ghost123
ReplyDeleteThere are more than sixty thousand youths who are incarcerated on any given day in the United States, and of those sixty thousand almost six thousand are incarcerated in adult prisons. This shows that youths are starting to do more violent crimes and we are now starting to treat them like adults for the crime. At least one in every three incarcerated youths either need special education or they are already receiving special education. If these youths do not have the full knowledge they need, then they will not be able to know that when they commit a crime that there may be some consequences that come with it. If we lock them up and they need these education how will they get it in prison or jail? Over sixty percent of those youth who are incarcerated have had to repeat a grade over Over half of them have math and reading skills that are significantly lower than their peers. This goes along with the one’s who have had or need special education, except these youths should be able to tell right from wrong and be able to know that certain bad behaviors have certain consequences. The majority of these youths were either suspended or expelled from school or they had just to decided to drop out all together before they were incarcerated. If they never finish school, then they will not be able to get a good job and will have to resort to a life of crime to get money or they may just become homeless for the rest of their lives. Back in 1997 over half of the youths incarcerated were in state run facilities and in 2013 we have more youths incarcerated in privately run facilities. If more youths are in private run facilities, then how will we know if they are being treated like human beings and if they are actually learning anything if this facility is suppose to offer rehab or schooling for these youths.
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ReplyDeleteI find it very interesting that policymakers across the spectrum think that all children should have access to a high quality public education. The main reason I find this interesting is the fact that this subject has been brought up multiple time yet it is still not available. Multiple people in the eyes of politics have mentioned this yet have done nothing to make it happen. On a not so interesting but more disturbing note, more than half of the youth that are incarcerated on any given day in the U.S. are committed to state custody, and two thirds of them are youth of color. Where are the parents or guardians? Why are so many of these children under state custody? Looking at the numbers from 1997 and 2013, it shows that less youth committed to state custody are being incarcerated. In 1997 there were 75,406 and in 2013 there were only 35,659. It is sad that only 13 states provide incarcerated youth with access to the same types of educational services available to youth in the community. Yes I understand that these juveniles broke the law but we are setting them up for failure in the future when we aren't teaching them a thing.
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Part Two
ReplyDeleteSomething that caught my eye was when the youth were referred to as "over-age and under-credited". I don't personally know how a youth can be over age, if they are under 18 they are considered youth. I also don’t understand where youth are several grade levels behind their peers. Why are so many youth being looked over and allowed to continue these paths without being held accountable until it is to late and they are incarcerated? Only 11 states offer work based learning for incarcerated youth. I personally think that every state should offer this. How can we as a society expect these young people to come out of incarceration and be a functioning part of society when they have been taught nothing? Having multiple entities overseeing and delivering these services can cause inconsistencies and problems. 60 percent of the states report not even knowing what, if any, outcomes are tracked for youth who are incarcerated in privately run facilities. One point that stood out to me was that no single government agency is responsible for ensuring that incarcerated youth transitions successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. I feel like this should be something we pay attention to so we can ensure that these children are going to grow and change their ways. It’s only going to leave some children up to failure because they need that push in order to change their lives around. The statistic that only 20 states collect data on weather or not the youth who were released from incarceration are enrolled in public school is a little concerning to me. I find that education is the best way to get a child to develop their minds better and have social interaction. It should be collected to show how effective it is on these children. I find that it is important that home schooling is an acceptable exception for youth released from incarceration because there could be a safety concern with putting these children back into public school. I find that there is a lot judgment and labeling in public schools that it could possible do more harm than good for the delinquent. It’s important that facility schools are using curricular standards and ensure that they make academic progress. I like to give every child a second change to make it in life and change their ways. They should be prepared to go into the workforce and make a difference for themselves. Everyone needs to get a great education in order to be successful in life. Facility schools should be based on normal public school traditions in order to give them an equal opportunity as other children. It should not be forced, however, because it is only going to make things more stressful for these children. I think that facility schools should keep records of academic success because it’s important to track their progress. There should be records to ensure that they are actually getting the education at a proper pace. I agree that getting them into a secure gainful employment quickly upon release is helpful. They will get positive reinforcement by earning their own money and getting back on their feet. It does surprise me that most student do choose to go back to public school rather than home schooled. I see how they would want freedom and be able to be on their own. Being stuck at home could make them feel enclosed again and they need the social interactions.
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Part 1: Something I found interesting was that most incarcerated youth do not have access to the same educational and vocational services as their peers in the community, and they do not attend
ReplyDeleteschools that have the same rigorous curriculum and student performance standards as traditional public schools. It’s not surprising honestly. With them being incarcerated, it’s no wonder that they don’t get to experience all the same educational experiences that a model citizen child would. It would seem like the prisons or states wouldn’t really want to invest that much money into educating a bunch of trouble making kids. When it stated that most states do not collect, track, and report student outcome data for incarcerated youth in all facility schools, it kind of made sense. Why would they necessarily care all the much? It’s not like after they got free of the system they would be able to make much of their lives, even with a proper education. The label the system gives the kids damages their entire future. I did find it interesting though as after that it had stated that 17 states (34 percent) actually do analyze the student outcome data they have by individual facilities to evaluate the performance of schools, education providers, and educators. I’d have to sit and think that those kids in those areas, schools or programs really lucked out because they are only within the small percent that is really treated like their education matters. Not all kids get those kinds of opportunities when incarcerated. It was stated that policies and practices employed in most states make it especially challenging for youth released from incarceration to make an effective transition to community-based educational or vocational settings. That isn’t surprising because I can imagine that things outside the walls of their prisons change drastically each year in comparison to know the prison has information on. A lot of the things they could be learning might be out of date, which would make adjusting to new things outside in civilization a lot harder than it would be if they never changed things. But a sad fact that was stated was that in nearly half of the states, no single government agency is responsible for ensuring that incarcerated youth transition successfully to an educational or vocational setting in the community upon release. Instead, these states leave it up to community-based organizations or parents/guardians to ensure youth are reenrolled. Only 11 states (22 percent) have a dedicated education transition liaison responsible for facilitating these transitions. SomethingProfound123
Part 2: It’s interesting to know that in more than one-third of states, incarcerated youth are automatically reenrolled into an alternative educational setting—which often do not meet state curricular and performance standards and suffer from lower graduation rates than traditional public schools—rather than their home school or another appropriate educational or vocational setting. In fact, it was stated that in most states, it is likely that policymakers and even state agency leaders lack the full picture of what educational and vocational services are available to incarcerated youth; who is responsible for the provision of these services; and what, if any, outcomes students are achieving. My question is, how could they be so blind an ignorant? I understand that these kids are juveniles and they have caused a lot of trouble to be thrown in there but they shouldn’t be treated like they are completely meaningless or worthless to society. I’m sure, given the chance, there would be at least one or two that could come out of a bad penitentiary like that and make something of themselves had they actually been given the proper chance to advance. If there is such a problem with the task of education being too big for some people to actually manage, then I could agree with the recommendation of designating a single agency to be responsible for ensuring youths’ successful transition to a community-based educational or vocational setting after release from incarceration so that the ‘in the joint’ education system isn’t over bared with the burden of focusing on kids in there and the ones getting out of there. SomethingProfound123
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