You can go on and on and on about how children should get punished for a negative act in which he/or she has committed. I understand that some crimes for example, murder, battery are some heinous crimes and yes suspects should get dealt with accordingly, but don’t you think when it comes to kids or teenagers that thy age should be taken into consideration. So out of every 10 teenagers taking into custody 1 of them are incarcerated in adult jail, or prison. Also, in some states at the age of 17 if you where to do a crime you are automatically getting sentenced to time not in juvenile jail but in adults’ jail, or prison. Thirty-One (31) states have “Once an adult, always an adult” policy meaning if you’re under eighteen and has been charged as an “adult” all your life, their future cases much be handle as such in the adult system no matter the crime. Thirty years ago, from February 27, 2018 there where just a little over 2,300 serving their time in an adult jail or prison, from 1990-99 the population in youths being incarcerated increased dramatically by a total of 311% reaching the peaks just little over 9,450 that number then began to decline accumulating to 3,700 in 2016. Roper V. Simmons stated that sentencing a child to the death penalty for a crime he or she committed under the age of 18 is unconstitutional, states also have been taking independent legislative action, raising juvenile jurisdiction, juvenile courts are also more likely to start handing down sentences that’s something other than confinement, these states to me are going in the right direction trying to find something else other than just sentencing these kids to long-term hardcore time messing their how life or what could’ve been life up, but you also got to think about the kids already looked up life just completely demolished. Statechamp007
I had the same statistic in my article in that 1 out of 10 juvenile delinquents are being locked up in an actual adult prison. These children do not need to be in an Adult prison, it would be detrimental to there lively hood after they get out. I agree with you that these children do not need to be locked up, they need discipline other than confinement. -ClarkKent007
I agree with that these children need to be punished more at home than to be sent to Adult prison where they might not come back the same. They could even come back even worse than when they went. I had the same stat about the 1 in 10 delinquents are locked in adult prison. -CUBSFAN007
In the article that I read for class, it had these same exact statistics almost. I think that they system is not completely one hundred percent fair to all of the juvenile delinquent children, but I do think that the system is a work in progress. I think that certain cases that are more serious like murder, rape, etc. deserve to be sent to an adult facility, but in cases like theft or crimes involving drugs, I do not think an adult jail or prison is right for a child.
In the article that I read for class, it had these same exact statistics almost. I think that they system is not completely one hundred percent fair to all of the juvenile delinquent children, but I do think that the system is a work in progress. I think that certain cases that are more serious like murder, rape, etc. deserve to be sent to an adult facility, but in cases like theft or crimes involving drugs, I do not think an adult jail or prison is right for a child. - KiiNG007
I agree with you all on all of your replies!! Both articles had very similar statistics in them. These youths need to be disciplined not kept in confinement. Knowing that they send juveniles to adult prisons is not right unless their actions are severe then of course give them their punishment, if you want to act like an adult then you'll receive adult consequences but if their actions are minor then why ruin a youth mentally and physically by sending them to an adult prison? -freckles007
I also had the same statistic in the article I wrote about that in 1 out of 10 juvenile delinquents are being locked up in actual adult prison. My thought on this though is that they should be in there but only if it is needed. If they acted through a violent crime I do believe that they should be tried and locked up as an adult. If they want to act as an adult then they should be tried as an adult. Now I do not believe that they should be in adult prison if there crime is minor, because yes this can hurt them both mentally and physically when they get out. -hollywood007
The article begins with a couple pretty shocking statistics: one out of every ten detained adolescents are placed in an adult facility. Personally, although some may see that as an acceptably low percentage, I think that’s completely unacceptable. I’ve always disagreed with the fact that many juvenile cases are handled in adult court. I think the idea is outrageous and completely out of date. With the knowledge we have today about the human mind and its stages of developments its ridiculous that we aren’t taking it into consideration when looking into a juvenile’s case. Its been proven that the human brain doesn’t finish developing and maturing until at least 25 so the fact that we’re charging 16, 17, and even 18-year-olds, with adult crimes makes little to no sense considering their brains are years and years away from being fully devolved the way an adults should be. Not to mention the fact that its been found to be unconstitutional to hold a child to the same standard as an adult so why exactly is it still happening? Most of these cases could be helped simply by changing the statuary punishment laws in multiple states requiring children to be prosecuted as adults automatically, judges and juries have no choice in the matter of what court they’re tried in because of the laws set. Not to mention the fact that, in 31 states, if they commit a crime with this statute attached to it every case theyre involved in going forward no matter what it may be is required to be tried in adult court. Fortunately, the number of juveniles confined in adult prison has ever so slowly dropped over time. In the year 2000, 3,892 kids were imprisoned with adults, this number dropped to 956 adolescents by the year 2016. Coinciding with that statistic, between the year 2005 and 2014 the number of adolescents detained dropped by more than 50%. Although, some of that has nothing to do with youths coming into contact with crime but more to do with aging out, it does however show some progress being made. The decision of adolescents being treated as adults being unconstitutional resulted in some major rollbacks of mandatory life sentences which in turn helped to further the cause. Many of these changes helped to deter juveniles from adult court and more toward juvenile court which has been proven to be much more likely to rehabilitate offenders. gray007
I think that we need to realize the major reason that we don't put certain children in JDC, something that many of the people in this thread have overlooked. We should not be confining children who are guilty of, or being tried for, murder or rape or something of the sort in the same facility as some poor kiid who was deemed ungovernable or some child who was truant. I don't mean to say that such a kid belongs in an adult prison, bunking with bubba and having to find some gang affiliation for safety. Of course not but we do need to find the right middle ground. -TaxSeason007
Juveniles constitute 1,200 of the 1.5 million people housed in federal and state prisons in this country, and nearly 200,000 youth enter the adult criminal-justice system each year, most for non-violent crimes. On any given day, 10,000 juveniles are housed in adult prisons and jails. These children lose more than their freedom when they enter adult prisons; they lose out on the educational and psychological benefits offered by juvenile-detention facilities. Worse, they are much more likely to suffer sexual abuse and violence at the hands of other inmates and prison staff. The National Prison Rape Elimination Commission described their fate in blunt terms citing that they are “More than any other group of incarcerated persons, youth incarcerated with adults are probably at the highest risk of sexual abuse.” It has been found out recently as well that 1.8 percent of juveniles have reported sexual abuse in adult prison, 75 percent of these from staff. However, it is believed that one out of ten juveniles in adult prison are sexually abuse. The amazing and disturbing part of this entire process is that even with the sexual abuse allegations these juveniles cannot access any sort of legal council as they are minors and not guaranteed that right under the constitution once they have been imprisoned. Even after these children are released they cannot bring any sort of legal action against their abusers as they have lost that right as a juvenile and as someone who was tried as an adult at the age of 16. These children will most likely either end up back in prison or they will be overtaken by mental illnesses such as PTSD, anxiety disorders, and paranoia due to these experiences. Compared to adults, juveniles are more likely to be harmed by exposure to stress and trauma, but they are also more likely to benefit from rehabilitation. In view of what we know about conditions of confinement in correctional facilities, it’s no surprise that juveniles who are released from adult facilities are in worse shape, and are more likely to reoffend, than their counterparts with similar criminal histories who are released from facilities designed with adolescents in mind. -CAPMARVEL007
The fact that 1 in 10 juveniles are locked up with adults surprised me, I thought the number would be 2 or 3 out of 10. Over the last 30 years the number of juveniles in adult prisons have dropped dramatically, due in part to states writing new laws prohibiting, or lowering the number of juveniles in prison. The United States Supreme Court case Roper v Simmons (2006), made it illegal in any states to impose the death penalty, on anyone who committed murder, while they were minors. The courts and the country said that we cannot give juveniles the same sentences as adults. The Supreme Court Studies, and statistics have confirmed that incarcerating youth in adult facilities is even more harmful than incarcerating them with people who are also minors. Those juveniles, who are housed with adult inmates are at the highest risk of sexual abuse, 36 more times likely to commit suicide and are at greater risk for the mentally harmful use of solitary confinement. Why, put juveniles, children, through that? I mean it is like the sheep being fed to the wolves. States knew what would happen if they sent juveniles to adult prisons. Race also has a card to play in this game as well. Blacks and Hispanic youths are much more likely to be imprisoned with adults, than are white youths. Why and how is this possible? How is it that black youth are 8.6 more times likely than white juveniles to receive prison sentences? How is it that Hispanic/Latino youth are 40% more likely to go to adult prisons than are white juveniles? Money has a lot to do with it, as well as preferences over other races. Disparity runs rampant, not just only in the juvenile criminal justice system. Things need to keep changing for the better for juveniles, they are children, not adults. And it is sad that states know that, but still caused and are still causing juveniles to be offended on, taken advantage of, etc by adult inmates who are with them in prison. Juvenile offenders need counseling and rehabilitation, instead of being traumatized and victimized. ---YouMustAcquit007.
I completely agree to your statement. Throwing them to the wolves is exactly what it feels like is being done. They are minors. You put children in an all adult prison, you are absolutely bound for trouble. I understand that some minors are acquitted as adults because of their crimes, because some crimes committed by minors are so appalling that they need to be tried as adults. Kids are also exposed to the same things adults are nowadays but at a much younger age. Everything is a little more heightened now too than it was when our parents or grandparents were younger. Children don't need to be locked up but really need mental help. The average human brain isn't fully developed until I believe 25 or 26 according to science. -notacop007
These were some very interesting and intriguing facts in the article. For example youth in adult prison are 36 times more likely to commit suicide, go to solitary confinement and they have the highest risk for sexual abuse. I do feel like being juveniles in adult prison isn't a good idea however, if they commit a serious crime then that would be a different story. I believe that in the 90’s the reason there was so many kids with adults is because they didn't know how to properly deal with them. There still is a lot of children mixed with adults but it has went down drastically. We know that the brain isn't fully developed until 25 however, to me that still isn't a excuse especially if you know right from wrong. The article does state because the brain isn't fully developed, the Supreme Court argues that due to this children shouldn't have the the same responsibility as adults. I am 50/50 on this I feel like it has a lot to do on the crime committed. If it's not a serious or felony crime then kids need to go to a juvenile center so they can get the help they need. Getting them better rehabilitated so they can be successful adults and not come back to jail is what juvenile offenders need. When you lock them up and put them with adults they are not going to learn thing and, I do agree with the study showing its a risk for suicide, reduces the chances of going back to school, and also raises the chances of going back to jail. 21Miami007
I was surprised when you mentioned that youths that are placed in adult prisons are 36 times more likely to commit suicide. I never heard anything about. I agree that juveniles should not be placed in an adult prison unless they did something serious. It seems wrong to me because I feel like a teenager should not be in a prison with adults. It could have really bad effects on the juvenile. I feel like putting them in a prison wont help them. I really liked the points you made in your response and I enjoyed reading it. -Soccer31007
You're entirely correct and I think the solution to this issue is clear. If you can't put these kids into the normal JDC facility and we clearly cannot put them with the adults then we need High Security Juvenile Detention Centers. Likely not focused on rehabilitation any more than an adult prison is, simply because it would be a massive liability. We need to keep kids safe, even if it affects the aspect of incarceration that is meant to deter the general population from committing crimes. The safety of these kids is important, nobody is going to argue that. It's just that the correct steps need to be taken to put such things into action. -TaxSeason007
This article talks about juveniles being put into adult prisons, and the statistics behind it. It states that 31 states have a “once an adult, always an adult” rule. This means that if someone under 18 is charged as an adult, then all the cases after will be tried as adult cases as well. Another interesting fact is that from 1990 to 1999 youth jail populations spiked in numbers, going up 311%. But these numbers went down between 2005 and 2014, dropping 51.2%. This correlates with the number of teens being confined in correctional facilities dropping by 48% between 1997 and 2013. Crazy to think that over that time span the numbers can fluctuate that much. The article then says that the Roger v Simmons case had a big impact on kids being sent to prison, because it imposed the death penalty for a person who committed the crime while under 18. This was huge because it made the youth not held accountable to the same standards that adults are. The reason that we’re trying to send more kids to correctional facilities instead of prison is because when they’re sent to prison there’s lots of harm that comes with it. These harmful effects include increasing odds of recidivism, a slowing of the aging out process of delinquency, and it diminishes their odds of returning to school. All of these are things are crucial for a kid in jail. Plus, youth with adults puts them at an additional 36% chance of killing themselves, compared to the youth in juvenile facilities. The article then goes on to talk about how black youth are 8.6 times more likely to be sent to prison, in comparison to their white peers. Latino youth are 40% more likely to be sent to prison, compared to their white peers. This is a problem in our justice system that needs to be fixed. -BuffaloChickenDip007
This article is saying how juveniles are being tried and put behind adult cells. It also said they are put into jail and being tried as adults even for non- violent, low level, and non criminal act . But are quick to dismiss those who did horrific acts. Oh they just get put into rehabilitation."53,000 youth held in facilities". What did those youth do? Was it really necessary for them to be put behind bars? We just watched how Ethan Couch was sentenced to just rehab and 10 years probation. Why wasn't that the case for the rest of the youths around the world. Yes, I know that when you do go against law, you should receive some type of punishment. But, is it necessary to throw a kid into an adult cell? Like said before, people are given the sentence of doing volunteer service. Wouldn't that help the child to mature? Or would you throw them behind jail cells? An adult one at that. I'm starting to feel that we also need better law enforcement. Like really. I feel that half of these arrests are because the officers just "doesn't like you". I've been pulled over by a cop before. I felt so uncomfortable and that was just because my headlight wasn't on. After I realized that, I turned it on but was still pulled over. He ran my plates, name, and questioned if it was valid. Then after reading this article, that's when I realized that those juveniles that are behind these jail cells could've been me. Yes the state should lower the levels of the juveniles being tried as adults. But also, better training or something for these officers. Wouldn't putting the youth in facilities make them worse in the future? Like the article says, "less youth returning to school". Would the youth be able to get education while in jail? Or are they offering this stuff in the adult cells? okurrr007
This article is obviously talking about the harms of putting kids in jail or prison with adults. I do agree that this is only making the kids worse. I don’t like how some states are implementing the “once an adult, always an adult” reasoning. Any kid in one of those states aren’t going to recidive. They are always going to be tried as an adult. So some kid that has finally gotten over his habits does something small, like rob a store for shoes, and he’s thrown back into jail with older people. These older people are probably not telling these kids to smarten up, but how to become smarter in the crimes they commit. They then find crime a hobby or even a lifestyle. Also, the fact that these website would say that almost 4,000 kids in prison changes to less than a thousand is still too many is crazy to me! Basically saying that the work done so far isn’t good enough! I personally think that was a great change! Yes, it’s not okay to have kids in prison unless it’s necessary, but if kids are a third of the reason why serious crimes are committed, those numbers aren’t that bad. Yes, they will and need to be lowered still, I feel that we are slowly doing a way better job than before. Kids don’t have a fully developed mind, they aren’t fully aware of the actions they do will affect the rest of their lives. They need help, and not the death penalty. I do like how we stopped doing that. Although, I believe that we need to create a prison system, and jail system for juveniles that are tried as an adult. So instead of being thrown in with the worst of the worst, they are with other young offenders that made a mistake. So we don’t have to worry about these stats of increasing of sexual assault, or suicide. It’s tougher than JDC, but not so tough that it messes with young children's minds. Imagine your 15 in with rapists, and murders. Yes, you must of did something bad, but the non-stop repetition of confinement will mess with a young developing mind. ^~^Itis007
I get the worry behind locking up juveniles with adults. They are more like to be assaulted, put into solitary confinement, etc. However I think that if a juvenile commits an act that results in them being tried as an adult then they should be punished as an adult. The sexual assault and other fears could be eliminated by training correctional staff better, and hiring additional staff as needed, these problems can be significantly cut down. I get they cannot be everywhere at once, but they can be in a lot of places at once. I think policies should be in place in adult prisons so that juveniles are not quite kept away from other prisoners, but kept safe from certain types of prisoners, like those convicted of sex crimes. Additionally, training on how to specifically deal with juveniles in prison. I firmly believe that juveniles who commit acts such as murder, rape, etc should be tried and punished accordingly. If they aren’t sent to adult prison as minors then they should be kept in a juvenile detention center and turned over to the adult prison system once they reach the age of 18. That way they are not in the adult prison as juveniles, but they will be sent there once they become an adult. There is not really much else that I think can be done to remedy the problem. A kid committed a horrible act that would be tried as an adult. There really is not much room to navigate. It is pretty straightforward if you ask me. They are being tried as an adult and should be punished as one. I do, however, understand that even at 18 the brain is not fully developed so maybe a juvenile sentence in an adult prison would be a good answer. Redranger007
I think that youths should not be held with adults, but I also think we should look at their criminal history and the crime they commited that got them into trouble. So, that they don’t influence other youths that are with them for reasons so that they don’t commit more criminal acts. There are many juveniles that are incarcerated with adults and become worse than they were before, compared to the crimes they commited that got them there. I think for youths they should be punished but not to the standards of an adult. They could be held in a JDC because sending them to jail or prison could put them at risks for worse or get them hurt by another person. It is sad that most of the black and latino community isn’t treated fairly when in trial. They send them straight to adult court and get sentenced with adults. Then statistics show that they are the ones committing all these crimes that could have been prevented if only they would have treated them fairly. That is where the system fails to treat anyone fairly and shows more racism more than anything. Since some states are different with youths and adults, I think that depending on the criminal act done youths should be treated as youths unless their history shows any different. I think it could also be a good idea to raise the age jurisdiction because most youth don’t finish developing until they are older than 25. And could lower the youths and adults that are incarcerated together. Not many youths learn the first time because of not being able to understand so I think that giving them a second chance could probably help them. And then from there making a decision on which jail or prison to send them to. taco007
After reading this article, I am shocked that they agreed with my opinion that juveniles should not be put in adult jails and prisons. Those that are younger than eighteen years of age should not be aloud to be incarcerated with adults. As the article stated, juveniles are more likely to be sexually abused in adult jails and prisons. Juveniles in adult jails are 36 more times likely to commit suicide than those that are in juvenile facilities. I agree with the article that those eighteen years and younger, their brains have not fully developed yet, so juveniles should not be set to the standards as adults. I think it was a good idea for them to create programs like the delinquency prevention program and diversion program. This gives the teens a second chance and a chance to better themselves. Being in jail with adults at a young age can affect a teen a lot. I am also glad they realized that juveniles should not be given the death penalty. That is too young for someone’s life to end. Overall, I think no one should be able to decide if someone else should die or not anyway. I still do not understand why someone who is under the age of eighteen is able to be labeled as “once an adult, always an adult”, if they are not an adult. Putting them in adult jails can increase their chances of being recidivisms and reduce their chances of going and staying in school. It is good that the rates of juveniles going to adult jails and prisons has decreased over the years, but the percentages and rates are still quite high. What makes them decide if someone who is under the age of eighteen should be put into an adult jail or prison? -pieface007
I have no history of delinquency so this article was pretty interesting to read about. It’s shocking how 53,000 kids being in a juvenile detention center, an 2/3 are over 16 or exactly 16. So these kids are close enough that they could be tried as adults if the court felt the need to do so. Another shocking fact is that more than 500 of the juveniles confined, are under 12. That’s still quite a bit of kids to get in such bad trouble with the law at the age. My neighbor growing up was the kind of kid who would go and vandalize things or just run into issues with the law, and the other neighbors and I never understood why he always acted out but we never did. It’s kind of hard to process when these kids are supposed to be living out their childhoods, running around, being silly, but instead some of them are spending it in a juvenile detention center. Some of the children in the detention centers definitely deserve to be there, but some don’t deserve to be for lower offense crimes. From getting into fights, stealing, possibly murder, but some don’t, such as the ones put there for violating curfew. They should at least be punished differently considering it’s not too bad of a crime. Another interesting fact was that 99% of them are still locked up by the gates, fences, and locked doors. I get they could’ve committed some of the worse crimes, but they’re still children. More than 9000 youths in detention centers are not even found guilty yet, and they’re still awaiting trial. I also found that it can be harmful to a youth to be locked up. Yes they have to serve their punishment, but it can also either change them to the worst, and have them end up later in prison, or it can actually help them be a better adult. the majority of our juveniles are being held in detention centers and they would be held in retraints, handcuffs, or chairs. Stlblues007
The numbers of youth in adult prisons are rising, in many states as soon as you are 17 years old you are automatically prosecuted as an adult. "Once an adult, always an adult" policies are in 31 states, which means if the youth is 16 in gets charged with an adult crime, if he commits another at the age of 16, he can't be charged as a child, no matter how low or high the crime is. There were 2,300 kids held in adult jails, from 1990 to 1999 youth populations has increased by 311%. Soon the rate starts to drop, which was similarly to 1997 between 2013 when it dropped 48%. More states are starting to take the independent legislative action, rising the age of juvenile jurisdiction. LLTS78 007
You can go on and on and on about how children should get punished for a negative act in which he/or she has committed. I understand that some crimes for example, murder, battery are some heinous crimes and yes suspects should get dealt with accordingly, but don’t you think when it comes to kids or teenagers that thy age should be taken into consideration. So out of every 10 teenagers taking into custody 1 of them are incarcerated in adult jail, or prison. Also, in some states at the age of 17 if you where to do a crime you are automatically getting sentenced to time not in juvenile jail but in adults’ jail, or prison. Thirty-One (31) states have “Once an adult, always an adult” policy meaning if you’re under eighteen and has been charged as an “adult” all your life, their future cases much be handle as such in the adult system no matter the crime. Thirty years ago, from February 27, 2018 there where just a little over 2,300 serving their time in an adult jail or prison, from 1990-99 the population in youths being incarcerated increased dramatically by a total of 311% reaching the peaks just little over 9,450 that number then began to decline accumulating to 3,700 in 2016. Roper V. Simmons stated that sentencing a child to the death penalty for a crime he or she committed under the age of 18 is unconstitutional, states also have been taking independent legislative action, raising juvenile jurisdiction, juvenile courts are also more likely to start handing down sentences that’s something other than confinement, these states to me are going in the right direction trying to find something else other than just sentencing these kids to long-term hardcore time messing their how life or what could’ve been life up, but you also got to think about the kids already looked up life just completely demolished.
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I had the same statistic in my article in that 1 out of 10 juvenile delinquents are being locked up in an actual adult prison. These children do not need to be in an Adult prison, it would be detrimental to there lively hood after they get out. I agree with you that these children do not need to be locked up, they need discipline other than confinement. -ClarkKent007
DeleteI agree with that these children need to be punished more at home than to be sent to Adult prison where they might not come back the same. They could even come back even worse than when they went. I had the same stat about the 1 in 10 delinquents are locked in adult prison. -CUBSFAN007
DeleteIn the article that I read for class, it had these same exact statistics almost. I think that they system is not completely one hundred percent fair to all of the juvenile delinquent children, but I do think that the system is a work in progress. I think that certain cases that are more serious like murder, rape, etc. deserve to be sent to an adult facility, but in cases like theft or crimes involving drugs, I do not think an adult jail or prison is right for a child.
DeleteThe above reply is mine. ^^^^^^^^ - KiiNG007
DeleteIn the article that I read for class, it had these same exact statistics almost. I think that they system is not completely one hundred percent fair to all of the juvenile delinquent children, but I do think that the system is a work in progress. I think that certain cases that are more serious like murder, rape, etc. deserve to be sent to an adult facility, but in cases like theft or crimes involving drugs, I do not think an adult jail or prison is right for a child. - KiiNG007
I agree with you all on all of your replies!! Both articles had very similar statistics in them. These youths need to be disciplined not kept in confinement. Knowing that they send juveniles to adult prisons is not right unless their actions are severe then of course give them their punishment, if you want to act like an adult then you'll receive adult consequences but if their actions are minor then why ruin a youth mentally and physically by sending them to an adult prison? -freckles007
DeleteI also had the same statistic in the article I wrote about that in 1 out of 10 juvenile delinquents are being locked up in actual adult prison. My thought on this though is that they should be in there but only if it is needed. If they acted through a violent crime I do believe that they should be tried and locked up as an adult. If they want to act as an adult then they should be tried as an adult. Now I do not believe that they should be in adult prison if there crime is minor, because yes this can hurt them both mentally and physically when they get out.
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^^^this was a reply to statechamp007
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The article begins with a couple pretty shocking statistics: one out of every ten detained adolescents are placed in an adult facility. Personally, although some may see that as an acceptably low percentage, I think that’s completely unacceptable. I’ve always disagreed with the fact that many juvenile cases are handled in adult court. I think the idea is outrageous and completely out of date. With the knowledge we have today about the human mind and its stages of developments its ridiculous that we aren’t taking it into consideration when looking into a juvenile’s case. Its been proven that the human brain doesn’t finish developing and maturing until at least 25 so the fact that we’re charging 16, 17, and even 18-year-olds, with adult crimes makes little to no sense considering their brains are years and years away from being fully devolved the way an adults should be. Not to mention the fact that its been found to be unconstitutional to hold a child to the same standard as an adult so why exactly is it still happening? Most of these cases could be helped simply by changing the statuary punishment laws in multiple states requiring children to be prosecuted as adults automatically, judges and juries have no choice in the matter of what court they’re tried in because of the laws set. Not to mention the fact that, in 31 states, if they commit a crime with this statute attached to it every case theyre involved in going forward no matter what it may be is required to be tried in adult court. Fortunately, the number of juveniles confined in adult prison has ever so slowly dropped over time. In the year 2000, 3,892 kids were imprisoned with adults, this number dropped to 956 adolescents by the year 2016. Coinciding with that statistic, between the year 2005 and 2014 the number of adolescents detained dropped by more than 50%. Although, some of that has nothing to do with youths coming into contact with crime but more to do with aging out, it does however show some progress being made. The decision of adolescents being treated as adults being unconstitutional resulted in some major rollbacks of mandatory life sentences which in turn helped to further the cause. Many of these changes helped to deter juveniles from adult court and more toward juvenile court which has been proven to be much more likely to rehabilitate offenders.
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I think that we need to realize the major reason that we don't put certain children in JDC, something that many of the people in this thread have overlooked. We should not be confining children who are guilty of, or being tried for, murder or rape or something of the sort in the same facility as some poor kiid who was deemed ungovernable or some child who was truant. I don't mean to say that such a kid belongs in an adult prison, bunking with bubba and having to find some gang affiliation for safety. Of course not but we do need to find the right middle ground.
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Juveniles constitute 1,200 of the 1.5 million people housed in federal and state prisons in this country, and nearly 200,000 youth enter the adult criminal-justice system each year, most for non-violent crimes. On any given day, 10,000 juveniles are housed in adult prisons and jails. These children lose more than their freedom when they enter adult prisons; they lose out on the educational and psychological benefits offered by juvenile-detention facilities. Worse, they are much more likely to suffer sexual abuse and violence at the hands of other inmates and prison staff. The National Prison Rape Elimination Commission described their fate in blunt terms citing that they are “More than any other group of incarcerated persons, youth incarcerated with adults are probably at the highest risk of sexual abuse.” It has been found out recently as well that 1.8 percent of juveniles have reported sexual abuse in adult prison, 75 percent of these from staff. However, it is believed that one out of ten juveniles in adult prison are sexually abuse. The amazing and disturbing part of this entire process is that even with the sexual abuse allegations these juveniles cannot access any sort of legal council as they are minors and not guaranteed that right under the constitution once they have been imprisoned. Even after these children are released they cannot bring any sort of legal action against their abusers as they have lost that right as a juvenile and as someone who was tried as an adult at the age of 16. These children will most likely either end up back in prison or they will be overtaken by mental illnesses such as PTSD, anxiety disorders, and paranoia due to these experiences. Compared to adults, juveniles are more likely to be harmed by exposure to stress and trauma, but they are also more likely to benefit from rehabilitation. In view of what we know about conditions of confinement in correctional facilities, it’s no surprise that juveniles who are released from adult facilities are in worse shape, and are more likely to reoffend, than their counterparts with similar criminal histories who are released from facilities designed with adolescents in mind. -CAPMARVEL007
ReplyDeleteThe fact that 1 in 10 juveniles are locked up with adults surprised me, I thought the number would be 2 or 3 out of 10. Over the last 30 years the number of juveniles in adult prisons have dropped dramatically, due in part to states writing new laws prohibiting, or lowering the number of juveniles in prison. The United States Supreme Court case Roper v Simmons (2006), made it illegal in any states to impose the death penalty, on anyone who committed murder, while they were minors. The courts and the country said that we cannot give juveniles the same sentences as adults. The Supreme Court
ReplyDeleteStudies, and statistics have confirmed that incarcerating youth in adult facilities is even more harmful than incarcerating them with people who are also minors. Those juveniles, who are housed with adult inmates are at the highest risk of sexual abuse, 36 more times likely to commit suicide and are at greater risk for the mentally harmful use of solitary confinement. Why, put juveniles, children, through that? I mean it is like the sheep being fed to the wolves. States knew what would happen if they sent juveniles to adult prisons.
Race also has a card to play in this game as well. Blacks and Hispanic youths are much more likely to be imprisoned with adults, than are white youths. Why and how is this possible? How is it that black youth are 8.6 more times likely than white juveniles to receive prison sentences? How is it that Hispanic/Latino youth are 40% more likely to go to adult prisons than are white juveniles? Money has a lot to do with it, as well as preferences over other races. Disparity runs rampant, not just only in the juvenile criminal justice system. Things need to keep changing for the better for juveniles, they are children, not adults. And it is sad that states know that, but still caused and are still causing juveniles to be offended on, taken advantage of, etc by adult inmates who are with them in prison.
Juvenile offenders need counseling and rehabilitation, instead of being traumatized and victimized. ---YouMustAcquit007.
I completely agree to your statement. Throwing them to the wolves is exactly what it feels like is being done. They are minors.
DeleteYou put children in an all adult prison, you are absolutely bound for trouble. I understand that some minors are acquitted as adults because of their crimes, because some crimes committed by minors are so appalling that they need to be tried as adults. Kids are also exposed to the same things adults are nowadays but at a much younger age. Everything is a little more heightened now too than it was when our parents or grandparents were younger. Children don't need to be locked up but really need mental help. The average human brain isn't fully developed until I believe 25 or 26 according to science. -notacop007
These were some very interesting and intriguing facts in the article. For example youth in adult prison are 36 times more likely to commit suicide, go to solitary confinement and they have the highest risk for sexual abuse. I do feel like being juveniles in adult prison isn't a good idea however, if they commit a serious crime then that would be a different story. I believe that in the 90’s the reason there was so many kids with adults is because they didn't know how to properly deal with them. There still is a lot of children mixed with adults but it has went down drastically. We know that the brain isn't fully developed until 25 however, to me that still isn't a excuse especially if you know right from wrong. The article does state because the brain isn't fully developed, the Supreme Court argues that due to this children shouldn't have the the same responsibility as adults. I am 50/50 on this I feel like it has a lot to do on the crime committed. If it's not a serious or felony crime then kids need to go to a juvenile center so they can get the help they need. Getting them better rehabilitated so they can be successful adults and not come back to jail is what juvenile offenders need. When you lock them up and put them with adults they are not going to learn thing and, I do agree with the study showing its a risk for suicide, reduces the chances of going back to school, and also raises the chances of going back to jail.
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I was surprised when you mentioned that youths that are placed in adult prisons are 36 times more likely to commit suicide. I never heard anything about. I agree that juveniles should not be placed in an adult prison unless they did something serious. It seems wrong to me because I feel like a teenager should not be in a prison with adults. It could have really bad effects on the juvenile. I feel like putting them in a prison wont help them. I really liked the points you made in your response and I enjoyed reading it. -Soccer31007
DeleteYou're entirely correct and I think the solution to this issue is clear. If you can't put these kids into the normal JDC facility and we clearly cannot put them with the adults then we need High Security Juvenile Detention Centers. Likely not focused on rehabilitation any more than an adult prison is, simply because it would be a massive liability. We need to keep kids safe, even if it affects the aspect of incarceration that is meant to deter the general population from committing crimes. The safety of these kids is important, nobody is going to argue that. It's just that the correct steps need to be taken to put such things into action.
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This article talks about juveniles being put into adult prisons, and the statistics behind it. It states that 31 states have a “once an adult, always an adult” rule. This means that if someone under 18 is charged as an adult, then all the cases after will be tried as adult cases as well. Another interesting fact is that from 1990 to 1999 youth jail populations spiked in numbers, going up 311%. But these numbers went down between 2005 and 2014, dropping 51.2%. This correlates with the number of teens being confined in correctional facilities dropping by 48% between 1997 and 2013. Crazy to think that over that time span the numbers can fluctuate that much. The article then says that the Roger v Simmons case had a big impact on kids being sent to prison, because it imposed the death penalty for a person who committed the crime while under 18. This was huge because it made the youth not held accountable to the same standards that adults are. The reason that we’re trying to send more kids to correctional facilities instead of prison is because when they’re sent to prison there’s lots of harm that comes with it. These harmful effects include increasing odds of recidivism, a slowing of the aging out process of delinquency, and it diminishes their odds of returning to school. All of these are things are crucial for a kid in jail. Plus, youth with adults puts them at an additional 36% chance of killing themselves, compared to the youth in juvenile facilities. The article then goes on to talk about how black youth are 8.6 times more likely to be sent to prison, in comparison to their white peers. Latino youth are 40% more likely to be sent to prison, compared to their white peers. This is a problem in our justice system that needs to be fixed. -BuffaloChickenDip007
ReplyDeleteThis article is saying how juveniles are being tried and put behind adult cells. It also said they are put into jail and being tried as adults even for non- violent, low level, and non criminal act . But are quick to dismiss those who did horrific acts. Oh they just get put into rehabilitation."53,000 youth held in facilities". What did those youth do? Was it really necessary for them to be put behind bars? We just watched how Ethan Couch was sentenced to just rehab and 10 years probation. Why wasn't that the case for the rest of the youths around the world. Yes, I know that when you do go against law, you should receive some type of punishment. But, is it necessary to throw a kid into an adult cell? Like said before, people are given the sentence of doing volunteer service. Wouldn't that help the child to mature? Or would you throw them behind jail cells? An adult one at that. I'm starting to feel that we also need better law enforcement. Like really. I feel that half of these arrests are because the officers just "doesn't like you". I've been pulled over by a cop before. I felt so uncomfortable and that was just because my headlight wasn't on. After I realized that, I turned it on but was still pulled over. He ran my plates, name, and questioned if it was valid. Then after reading this article, that's when I realized that those juveniles that are behind these jail cells could've been me. Yes the state should lower the levels of the juveniles being tried as adults. But also, better training or something for these officers. Wouldn't putting the youth in facilities make them worse in the future? Like the article says, "less youth returning to school". Would the youth be able to get education while in jail? Or are they offering this stuff in the adult cells? okurrr007
ReplyDeleteThis article is obviously talking about the harms of putting kids in jail or prison with adults. I do agree that this is only making the kids worse. I don’t like how some states are implementing the “once an adult, always an adult” reasoning. Any kid in one of those states aren’t going to recidive. They are always going to be tried as an adult. So some kid that has finally gotten over his habits does something small, like rob a store for shoes, and he’s thrown back into jail with older people. These older people are probably not telling these kids to smarten up, but how to become smarter in the crimes they commit. They then find crime a hobby or even a lifestyle. Also, the fact that these website would say that almost 4,000 kids in prison changes to less than a thousand is still too many is crazy to me! Basically saying that the work done so far isn’t good enough! I personally think that was a great change! Yes, it’s not okay to have kids in prison unless it’s necessary, but if kids are a third of the reason why serious crimes are committed, those numbers aren’t that bad. Yes, they will and need to be lowered still, I feel that we are slowly doing a way better job than before. Kids don’t have a fully developed mind, they aren’t fully aware of the actions they do will affect the rest of their lives. They need help, and not the death penalty. I do like how we stopped doing that. Although, I believe that we need to create a prison system, and jail system for juveniles that are tried as an adult. So instead of being thrown in with the worst of the worst, they are with other young offenders that made a mistake. So we don’t have to worry about these stats of increasing of sexual assault, or suicide. It’s tougher than JDC, but not so tough that it messes with young children's minds. Imagine your 15 in with rapists, and murders. Yes, you must of did something bad, but the non-stop repetition of confinement will mess with a young developing mind.
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I get the worry behind locking up juveniles with adults. They are more like to be assaulted, put into solitary confinement, etc. However I think that if a juvenile commits an act that results in them being tried as an adult then they should be punished as an adult. The sexual assault and other fears could be eliminated by training correctional staff better, and hiring additional staff as needed, these problems can be significantly cut down. I get they cannot be everywhere at once, but they can be in a lot of places at once. I think policies should be in place in adult prisons so that juveniles are not quite kept away from other prisoners, but kept safe from certain types of prisoners, like those convicted of sex crimes. Additionally, training on how to specifically deal with juveniles in prison. I firmly believe that juveniles who commit acts such as murder, rape, etc should be tried and punished accordingly. If they aren’t sent to adult prison as minors then they should be kept in a juvenile detention center and turned over to the adult prison system once they reach the age of 18. That way they are not in the adult prison as juveniles, but they will be sent there once they become an adult. There is not really much else that I think can be done to remedy the problem. A kid committed a horrible act that would be tried as an adult. There really is not much room to navigate. It is pretty straightforward if you ask me. They are being tried as an adult and should be punished as one. I do, however, understand that even at 18 the brain is not fully developed so maybe a juvenile sentence in an adult prison would be a good answer. Redranger007
ReplyDeleteI think that youths should not be held with adults, but I also think we should look at their criminal history and the crime they commited that got them into trouble. So, that they don’t influence other youths that are with them for reasons so that they don’t commit more criminal acts. There are many juveniles that are incarcerated with adults and become worse than they were before, compared to the crimes they commited that got them there. I think for youths they should be punished but not to the standards of an adult. They could be held in a JDC because sending them to jail or prison could put them at risks for worse or get them hurt by another person. It is sad that most of the black and latino community isn’t treated fairly when in trial. They send them straight to adult court and get sentenced with adults. Then statistics show that they are the ones committing all these crimes that could have been prevented if only they would have treated them fairly. That is where the system fails to treat anyone fairly and shows more racism more than anything. Since some states are different with youths and adults, I think that depending on the criminal act done youths should be treated as youths unless their history shows any different. I think it could also be a good idea to raise the age jurisdiction because most youth don’t finish developing until they are older than 25. And could lower the youths and adults that are incarcerated together. Not many youths learn the first time because of not being able to understand so I think that giving them a second chance could probably help them. And then from there making a decision on which jail or prison to send them to. taco007
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article, I am shocked that they agreed with my opinion that juveniles should not be put in adult jails and prisons. Those that are younger than eighteen years of age should not be aloud to be incarcerated with adults. As the article stated, juveniles are more likely to be sexually abused in adult jails and prisons. Juveniles in adult jails are 36 more times likely to commit suicide than those that are in juvenile facilities. I agree with the article that those eighteen years and younger, their brains have not fully developed yet, so juveniles should not be set to the standards as adults. I think it was a good idea for them to create programs like the delinquency prevention program and diversion program. This gives the teens a second chance and a chance to better themselves. Being in jail with adults at a young age can affect a teen a lot. I am also glad they realized that juveniles should not be given the death penalty. That is too young for someone’s life to end. Overall, I think no one should be able to decide if someone else should die or not anyway. I still do not understand why someone who is under the age of eighteen is able to be labeled as “once an adult, always an adult”, if they are not an adult. Putting them in adult jails can increase their chances of being recidivisms and reduce their chances of going and staying in school. It is good that the rates of juveniles going to adult jails and prisons has decreased over the years, but the percentages and rates are still quite high. What makes them decide if someone who is under the age of eighteen should be put into an adult jail or prison? -pieface007
ReplyDeleteI have no history of delinquency so this article was pretty interesting to read about. It’s shocking how 53,000 kids being in a juvenile detention center, an 2/3 are over 16 or exactly 16. So these kids are close enough that they could be tried as adults if the court felt the need to do so. Another shocking fact is that more than 500 of the juveniles confined, are under 12. That’s still quite a bit of kids to get in such bad trouble with the law at the age. My neighbor growing up was the kind of kid who would go and vandalize things or just run into issues with the law, and the other neighbors and I never understood why he always acted out but we never did. It’s kind of hard to process when these kids are supposed to be living out their childhoods, running around, being silly, but instead some of them are spending it in a juvenile detention center. Some of the children in the detention centers definitely deserve to be there, but some don’t deserve to be for lower offense crimes. From getting into fights, stealing, possibly murder, but some don’t, such as the ones put there for violating curfew. They should at least be punished differently considering it’s not too bad of a crime. Another interesting fact was that 99% of them are still locked up by the gates, fences, and locked doors. I get they could’ve committed some of the worse crimes, but they’re still children. More than 9000 youths in detention centers are not even found guilty yet, and they’re still awaiting trial. I also found that it can be harmful to a youth to be locked up. Yes they have to serve their punishment, but it can also either change them to the worst, and have them end up later in prison, or it can actually help them be a better adult. the majority of our juveniles are being held in detention centers and they would be held in retraints, handcuffs, or chairs. Stlblues007
ReplyDeleteThe numbers of youth in adult prisons are rising, in many states as soon as you are 17 years old you are automatically prosecuted as an adult. "Once an adult, always an adult" policies are in 31 states, which means if the youth is 16 in gets charged with an adult crime, if he commits another at the age of 16, he can't be charged as a child, no matter how low or high the crime is. There were 2,300 kids held in adult jails, from 1990 to 1999 youth populations has increased by 311%. Soon the rate starts to drop, which was similarly to 1997 between 2013 when it dropped 48%. More states are starting to take the independent legislative action, rising the age of juvenile jurisdiction. LLTS78 007
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