I thought this article was helpful as it also addressed other countries and what their incarceration rates of women are. It gave helpful context. This article stated countless statistics one right after another, each more tragic than the last. Simply mind blowing. The rate of women incarceration is at an all-time high. Upon reading this, I was impressed; I also wonder why that is. Is there an underlining cause for such a large increase in the crime rate? We as a country are responsible for figuring out the reasons behind this drastic growth for women prisoners. “Only four percent of the world’s population lives within the U.S., but the U.S accounts for over thirty percent of the worlds incarcerated women.” What on earth are we doing within the criminal justice system to have that many women behind bars. Those numbers are very sobering to me. I was completely surprised to learn about how drastic those numbers are. Those statistics are truly scary, and should impact our view on towards the sentencing process. This article stated a case of a violently abusive father. The father was sentenced to probation, while the mother was sentenced to thirty years in prison for failure to protect the child from the abusive father. How is that fair and just? I was frustrated and sad after I read that. Thirty years, that is totally uncalled for, in my opinion. That is over sentencing at its finest. What is truly irritating is that the father was only charged with probation while he was the abuser. I feel like there may have been a few other things within the case itself that had a major part in the sentencing process that this article failed to mention. But just the same, this case shows the unfairness women have. The justice system is over-incarcerating women, and we are paying the price for it. -CoalRoller 117
I mentioned a lot of similar points like what you made in your post. I do like that they give us a means of comparison by showing us what other countries' female incarceration rates are. I also did like that you mentioned we should be working on figuring out what the reason may be, if there is an underlying cause, for the all-time historic high of the U.S.'s female incarceration rates. This post was well written, nice job! GMan219711
It is interesting that 133 is the current rate at which women are being incarcerated world wide, that is also the highest that the rate has ever been for women. It is interesting that only 4 percent of the women live in the U.S, but women who live in the U.S make up over 30 percent of the females incarcerated in the world. Oklahoma has the highest rate of women being incarcerated at 281, while the U.S. is just at 133. This article is helpful because it shows the states with the highest incarceration rate of women. The article is also helpful in determining what states over incarcerate women. Women that are in prison seem to get rushed by systems that were designed for men, not women. I find it strange that women in prison do not have access to the same help or programs that men get in prison that can shorten the incarceration. I feel that inmates, no matter the race or gender should get the same help across the board. There should not be a way to keep women from being able to do the same thing in prison as men. They should be able to lower their sentencing just like men are able to do. Women in Wyoming would have to travel to Florida to serve their time, because Wyoming’s camp is only for men. There should be the same number of prisons for both genders. This article is good because it shows the rates of women being incarcerated globally and the different ways that women are treated differently in prison than men are. I also feel that women should not be as highly charged as they are. Most of the violent crimes that are committed are men, so women should not get say a 20 year sentence when some men commit worse crimes and get less time. -crispychicken711.
I totally see what it is you are saying, not all people are horrendous animals and don’t deserve to just get completely shut out of society forever, most people they do something get in trouble and serve 30 days and decided that jail isn’t for them and that’s not what they are about and not where they want to be and they fix themselves and get they act together and probably will make sure they do not do anything that could land them back in there jail again. Statechamp711
In my opinion, this article is good in the concept of showing every countries incarceration of women. In the article it shows the incarceration of every state as if it was a country and the most incarceration rate and the most one is Oklahoma and they claimed in the article that a man violently abused a mother and her children, and the father only got probation and Oklahoma sent the mother to prison for 30 years for failing to protect the kids. This is ridiculous that the Mother went to prison for 30 years even though the father was the one who broke the kids bones and because the father was violently abusing the Mother as well, it made sense that she couldn't defend the kids because she was already getting abused by the father. I do like what Wyoming is doing in doing an alter way to shorten incarceration. Wyoming recently started allowing women to do a 6 month "boot camp" instead of 6 years. I went into more depth of the article and I saw that El Salvador jails women just for miscarriages... Are you serious? Women nor Men have real control if a woman has a miscarriage. I do agree that the United States now has no fear on taking women to jail, which is a lot different then the past, but I still do agree that women are still not as incarcerated near as much as men but in the current United States people will get arrested more than ever, like we talked about together that the United States has the highest incarceration rate I ave ever seen. I personally think that countries should take psychological standpoints into consideration when putting anybody into lock up but some people do deserve to be in prison but most people get way to cruel of a punishment. -z33 711
Yes -z33 711 I totally agree with you they should a little less harsh on their punishment because it’s starting to look like they are getting money hungry when it comes to bail money and really just throwing anybody in jail for an unnecessary amount of time. Their punishment doesn't equal and defeinly overrule their reasonings of getting locked up. Not saying this because they are women but because there’s no equal right going on rather they are men or women. A little slap on the wrist I think would be enough punishment to things people are getting 10+ years for.-KenzieLand711
I agree with you, that women should have not went to jail because she was getting abuse as well. She couldn’t even help herself, how was she going to help her kids. Now don’t get me wrong I would do anything to help my kids and I believe that would be considered self defense in that case. For him to get only probation was not fair at all, he was the one that did the damage and he didn’t really get nothing but probation and out free. They have to understand in some cases that they have to put thought into.-babyblue711
-z33 711. Yes, I totally agree it was ridiculous for the mother of the child to be sent to prison for 30 years. While the father had gotten probation. That is beyond me, I can not image why the judge would have allowed that. Personally, I think it is uncalled for. You have a good point, we are not as scared to imprison women now more than ever before. It’s a fact, just look at the prison statistics. I wonder what the real cause of that is. Maybe the women’s rights; fair pay, voting and employment may have some underlining link to the drastic increase within our prison population. -CoalRoller117
Reading this article I found a lot of things interesting like I didn’t know Oklahoma has long had a reputation for over incarcerating women especially mothers dealing with drug or alcohol addictions. The women with children are most likely to get incarcerated than the women with no children. Example in one case they talked about a father violently abused a mother and her children but the mother got sentenced to 30 years because the father broke the child bone so they looked at it as if the mother wasn’t protecting her daughter. I don’t think that was far because they both was getting beating and i'm pretty sure he mother tried very hard to protect both of them as much as she could. I also read where they was talking about The rapid growth of women’s incarceration, coupled with the longstanding focus on men, means that recent criminal justice reforms have not kept up with the number and needs of incarcerated women. So all the data they have been doting down isn’t accurate data it’s just assumptions based off the last data that was recorded. They also talked about how the missing data on women held in psychiatric commitment (for evaluation or treatment as Incompetent to Stand Trial or Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity) in each state is particularly significant. The records that they are dotting down about the women that are incarcerated with mental illness isn’t correct meaning if they go by the information that is giving about the women with mental illness and determine if they should provide more help and support to those with mental illness or not wouldn’t be right because the data can say they don’t need that much support but in reality they need the most support they can get from providing women with the correct medicine to building more mental facilities.-KenzieLand711
I agree with you KenzieLand711 when you said you dont think its fair about the mother getting sentenced more than the father. When the father beat both the mother and the children. I really don't understand why they would think she wouldn't want to protect her child. I was also shocked when I read the mother and fathers sentencing for this situation. The father only received probation and the mother receives 30 years in prison. The reasoning for the mothers harsh sentencing is for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter’s bones.This to me does not make sense and does not seem fair to the mother. Their sentencing should be reversed if anything. -ny711
I found that in the article it says that a woman got 30 YEARS because she didn’t protect her kids when their father broke their bones. I find that interesting because he only got probation and she went to Jail for it. She was getting abuse as well what more could she have done. If anything, he shouldn’t have gone to jail for life for hurting the children. Yea, maybe she could have tried harder when he was abusing her and it could have been for self-defense. But, for her to get sentenced for that is crazy. I’m not surprise that a lot of women goes to jail for drug charges. The law is taking that type of crime very serious and lot of people are getting charged for it, for a long period of time. Which can take up room for some other serious crime. In the article it states that Even Texas, which incarcerates more women than any other state, has few educational or vocational programs open to the women in its facilities. That’s not fair at all, why do men have more options than women. women should have the same ability to get help like a male do. That’s also an example of how male see women being a police officer. People think women shouldn’t do anything but sit around. No, that’s not the case women need education, help when they get out prison, job, everything a man get in prison a female should as well. Some women just need help and need someone to talk to. No, we shouldn’t just let their crimes go but we need to be considerate of their past. Most women commit cries because of their past such as rape, abuse, neglect and so one. -babyblue711
I also agree that it was shocking to see that the woman in this case was sentenced to thirty years in jail but the father of the children was only sentenced to probation. What sense does that make to anybody? Sure she maybe could have tried more to protect the children by calling the police, but when people get these kinds of punishments like probation, where you know the father is going to come right back into the same house that you live in, she is probably too scared to tell the police. If he broke his own daughters bones what else will he do to his girlfriend? I would be too scared to tell the police myself just to protect myself. -Steel711
First I’d would like to start with saying that this article really puts things into perspective world wide. I was very shocked and confused to see that there are countries like El Salvador that incarcerate women because of miscarriages, i think this is ridiculous and I’m sure glad the US has at least something going right for our incarcerated women. It really confuses me how a country can incarcerate a person for something that is completely out of their own control. One huge problem we have in the U.S. is that our incarcerated women do not have access to diversion camps like men do. Could you image how many women we could get back into the world rehabilitated in a timely fashion if they could go to six month boot camp instead of behind bars for three years. One thing that really confused me however is when the article describes Oklahoma as the prison capital of the world and then says that Texas incarcerates more women than any other state. So which one is it? Oklahoma or texas? I may be reading or interpreting it wrong but I’m confused. The article always say that the U.S.’s exported “war on drugs” is in part a reason Thailand's women incarceration rate is what it is, how come the U.S. is affecting the justice systems in other countries and what is the point in it? All though all of these points really shocked me the one that shocked me the most was that the U.S. only makes up about four percent of the world’s population in women but make up thirty percent of the worlds population of incarcerated women. I mean if you want to talk about asinine let’s talk about this. - RickyBobby711
Yes, RickyBobby I agree that it is seriously ridiculous that El Salvador will incarcerate women because of things like miscarriages. I do also think women do get treated unfairly when it comes to getting lesser sentencing by things such as "boot camp". RickeyBobby I didn't even think about how they say that Texas does incarcerate more women then Oklahoma but they said that Oklahoma leads the incarceration rate of women. You did open my eyes to seeing how the United States does only have 40% of the women population but has the 30% locked up incarceration, I do agree that this is asinine. -z33 711
While reading this article something really stood out to me, only 4 percent of the women is populated in the united states, but the united states incarcerate 30% of the world women population. Women are human beans to and make mistakes as well, if every city if the untied states was it’s on state you’ll have an decent amount of women from every single city getting incarcerated but yes you have some cities like Oklahoma that leading the pack down to Comoros and others who only have 1 female incarcerated per 100,000 people, and I understand that drug and alcohol is bad sign when you start to increase your usage rate of it, but do I think that a lot of the women that’s locked up in Oklahoma deserve to be incarcerated and taken away from they family and have their kids thrown into the system absolutely not I believe that there’s other ways to get through to a person rather than locking them up and throwing away the key. So while reading this article you come across and example case if that’s what you want to call it, so for abuse the husband got probation for beating he’s daughter and broke her jaw bone, So there’s this gray when it comes to disciplining whether its too much or too little but here in this fact I felt like because it was physical injuries that he should’ve got more than just an slap on the wrist, and probation should he have got a lot of time probably not but 2 or 3 years was deserving for what he did to his own daughter, and who is there to say that the mother didn’t protect their child because of what he would do to her? Or what he is already doing to her, not to say that the mother was in the right either for not protecting her child as a parent your job is to yes make sure your child is on the right path but also be their protector against any oncoming threat especially if you know they can’t fend for their self-Period! Reading this article has taught me a lot and it was very intriguing to learn how some women are down wrong with in the justice system. Statechamp711
Dear Statechamp711, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on this article and also what you found most interesting. I also thought that when the article stated “ Only four percent of the world’s female population lives in the U.S., but the U.S. accounts for over thirty percent of the world’s incarcerated women.” it was very shocking to read and think about. In addition I also thought that the “ recent illuminating case, a father violently abused a mother and her children, and got probation, but the mother was sentenced to 30 years for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter’s bones.” was a very sad story and the fact that the mother got 30 years of not protecting her child from an abusive father but the father only got probation. -mmmchicken711
There are many interesting things I found in reading this article. I never realized how our incarcerated female population compared to other countries around the world- it’s significantly higher even though we only account for about 4% of the world’s female population. The first interesting statistic I found was that in Oklahoma, 281 females out of every 100,000 are incarcerated, which is insane in comparison to places like Afghanistan, in which only 5 out of every 100,000 females are incarcerated. The majority of the U.S. states, when looked at as countries in the graph shown on the article, are pretty much all right up at the top. Another interesting thing I found in this article I was unaware of was that women don’t typically have access to as many “diversion and other programs” as are offered to men. One such example is that of the alternative 6-month “boot camp” men have long had the option of serving, instead of serving 6-10 years in prison. This was just recently changed in Wyoming, but with this being the case, the article states that they may have to travel as far as Florida to attend such a boot-camp because Wyoming’s camp is still only open to men. Yet another statistic I found extremely interesting was comparing a relatively low population per 100,000 of incarcerated females, Illinois, the next closet founding NATO country would be Portugal, with a rate of 15 per 100,000. This is staggering, being as this is at least 5 times the rates of our closest international allies, like Portugal, Luxembourg, the UK, Canada, Norway, and Belgium just to list a few. Something else I found that surprised me was how difficult it actually is just to find out just how many incarcerated females we have in the U.S. for quite a few reasons. A couple of these reasons include the fact that U.S. Marshals Service does not report its detained population by sex, and the U.S. military has not reported the people under military jurisdiction by sex since 1998. In order to find the info presented in the article, they had to use information from 2015 and could only gather so much. This means the numbers could be much higher by this year, or simply change drastically. Something that may change these numbers significantly would be if the data collectors had been able to add the number of girls being held in youth facilities. They were unable to find any relative data to add these numbers to our statistics. One other thing I found interesting was that people don’t make nearly as big of a deal of the rates of men incarcerated compared to women. This shocks me because an insanely larger number of incarcerated males would be seen in comparison to women. I believe that both women and men are equally capable of committing crimes, so why should they not be at least somewhat closer? This isn’t even mentioned in the article. The last interesting thing I found kind of adds onto another fact I’ve already mentioned about how difficult it is to find out just how many women are incarcerated in the U.S. The last fact I’ll state is that it’s next to impossible to account for all the data on justice-involved psychiatric female patients because the data just isn't available. GMan219711
After reading this article, I found a lot of it interesting. One thing that I found interesting is that with the rapid growth of women’s incarceration that current criminal justice reforms cannot keep up with the numbers and needs of the women. I also found interesting about this article is that women don’t get the same access to programs, that men have, that would shorten their incarceration. They do however have alternative opinions. For example, in Wyoming, recently allowed women to attend a 6 month ‘boot camp’, instead of serving 6 to 10 years in prison. But, women would have to go as far as Florida to serve their time, because the ‘boot camp’ in Wyoming only allows men. Another example would be in Texas, who incarcerates more women than any other state in the United States, has only a few programs open to women in their facilities. With the women’s incarceration rate at a historic high, even though in the United States incarceration rate falling. Only 4 percent of the female population living in the United States, the US still accounts for 30 percent of the world’s incarcerated women, according to the article. I actually found this surprising. I knew that the number of women being incarcerated was increasing at a rapid rate, but I had no idea that the United States held about 30 percent to the world’s incarcerated women. Also the article says that the United States comes in 27th place, when it comes to incarcerated women, with Thailand coming in 28th. The main reason being America’s ‘war on drugs’. Something I saw in this article that I found fascinating, is that I saw states in the United States, being compared to places around the world. For example, that Kansas and Thailand women are incarcerated at similar rates. Also that women form El Salvador are incarcerated at the same rate as women in Wisconsin. Also, I didn’t know that Oklahoma has become, quote, ‘world’s prison capital’. Which I find both sad and interesting at the same time. – Adventureflight711
I also found that interesting that with the increase in women being incarcerated, we cannot keep up with their needs or give the same benefits as men. How hard is it to give them the same programs that they give to men to shorten their sentence. To me it does not seem like it would be that hard, there needs to be a major overhaul on how we treat women in the judicial system. Wyoming step in the right direction in allowing women to do a 6 month boot camp to take place of a 6 to 10 year sentence, even though they have to be sent to Florida.- ClarkKent711
I thought this article was very interesting to read and also very informative. I like how they incorporated other countries statistics in this article as well. I thought that is was absolutely mind boggling to read that “ Only four percent of the world’s female population lives in the U.S., but the U.S. accounts for over thirty percent of the world’s incarcerated women. Also the states of Oklahoma's having the largest incarceration rate throughout the whole U.S. Also Oklahoma is in the works of becoming the world’s prison capital. In the article when I read about the “ recent illuminating case, a father violently abused a mother and her children, and got probation, but the mother was sentenced to 30 years for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter’s bones.” I thought that this was such an awful story to read about and how the mother got blames or the father breaking his “daughters” bones. I don’t understand how someone could ever intentionally hurt their child let alone break a bone. Also the fact that women often do not have the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration. The fact Wyoming only recently allowed women to attend an alternative 6-month “boot camp” instead of serving 6-10 years in prison but even then the women would have go as far as Florida to serve their time, because Wyoming’s camp is only open to men. I never knew of a boot camp program that shortened someones incarceration. The U.S. and its states make up 27 of the world’s most carceral places for women. The over incarceration becomes even more appeanet when you look at our closest allies founding countries of the North American Treaty Organization (NATO). From what I can recall I have never heard of NATO until this class. We try and help decrease incarceration rate but we continue to lock women up at rates that are at least 5 times the rates of our closest international allies. “So even the U.S. states with the lowest levels of incarceration are far out of line with global norms.” - mmmChicken
I also liked how they had other countries statistics because it’s very informing to see what is happening outside of this country. I agree how howful the story was about the father abusing the kids and the mother getting the prison sentence. The father that hurt the child got probation but the abuse could of really made a big impact on the child and I wondered how they handled that. It makes me sad when I hear about parents abusing their kids because one of the jobs as a parent is to protect them, not to hurt or abuse them. I thought the boot camp was interesting too, I kind of want to know more about what it’s about. -Soccer31711
I found it interesting how Oklahoma's incarceration rate for women was 281. I found it interesting how Oklahoma has had a problem with mothers being involved with drugs or alcohol. I found it interesting that if a father beats a mother and the children, he gets probation. That does not seem right especially if a mother gets a 30 year sentence for not protecting the kids when injuries occur. I feel like the father should get a prison sentence. The father was the primary cause of it. Maybe that’s the reason why the women are involved in the drugs and alcohol because they feel like they need a depressant to help them deal with the problem and then another problem is created and that’s the addiction to the depressants. I found it interesting that they referer to Oklahoma at the world's prison capital, I never knew about that. I found it interesting that the women don't have the opportunities for their sentence to get shorten but men have that opportunity. I found it interesting that their is an alternative 6-month boot camp you can do instead of being in prison for 6-10 years. I kind of want to know that the boot camp is about and what they have to do. I also found it interesting that they are just now allowing women to do it.. Why don't they have the opportunity? I found it interesting that Texas has more women in prison than any other state but they have a few educational or vocational programs for the women in prison. Why do some of the states not allow this opportunity? I found it interesting that Kansas and Thailand are incarcerated at similar rates. I found it interesting and upsetting that the women in El Salvadorian are jailed for miscarriages. Some women don't do drugs or drink and that they can still have a miscarriage. They don't have any control over that. That’s wrong to put a woman in jail because she had a miscarriage. I found it interesting that women have more mental health problems than men that are incarcerated as well. -Soccer31711
I mentioned some very similar points. I also found it very interesting that Oklahoma has problems with mothers and drugs, and they lock them up. I agree that is not right for a father to get probation for beating his wife but, but if the wife is caught doing drugs she will go to jail. I also found it very interesting that Oklahoma was the capital of incarceration. A women should never be put in jail for something she cant control like a miscarriage. I-Like-Cereal711
I found this article very interesting, with very many interesting points. It amazed me that out of 100,000 residents 698 people are incarcerated. That number may not seem very big but it is actually quite significant. Out of those 698 133 of those incarcerated victims are women. As I said before 133 people doesn't seem very big but it's actually quite significant. I think it's crazy how even though America's incarceration rates are slowly declining, the female incarceration rates are at a all time historic high. Only four percent of the female population lives in America but we account for thirty percent of the female incarceration rate. I find that amazing that America accounts for over a quarter of female incarceration rates. It surprises me that Oklahoma will incarcerate women who are mothers that are struggling with a drug addiction. I don’t think officials should take mothers away from their family just because they are fighting an addiction. If the government cannot keep up financially with the amount of females we are incarcerated, then why keep doing. The article states that some states can't keep up with the amount of females being incarcerated, and give them the proper facilities, or programs that they need to. Another interesting thing is that a prison in Wyoming was offering a six month boot camp alternative for females, instead of serving a six to ten years in prison. But the boot camp was all the way in Florida, that is ridiculous. The United States makes up for 27th place for the country with the most incarcerated women, that is absolutely crazy that we lock that many people up without even hearing about it. Oklahoma the state has become the world's prison leading capital, and it's not even a country I find that very interesting. Illinois locks up more women 5 times more than our allie portugal. I-Like-Cereal711
Of everything I read in both your response and in the article, I found it enraging that in Oklahoma women are more likely to incarceration if they have a child and are in abusive environments. What do you think about that example from the article? Do you think a man should get probation from beating his wife and children and the woman should get thirty years for not being able to protect the children? I think that is extremely over the top and enraging. -tanlion_nala
Before I read this article I would have never guessed that the United States would have the one of highest percentage of women being incarcerated in the world. Women that are incarcerated in the United States is 133 out of every 100,000 residents. This might not seem like a high number, but the United State only has 4 percent of the worlds population of women and it accounts for 30 percent of the worlds incarcerated women. What is interesting is that Oklahoma has the highest percent of incarcerated women in the United States. I would have guessed it to be a bigger state such as California or New York. A crazy thing that this state did is that they gave a women 30 years for not protecting her child from an abusive father. The child and her were being abused but the abuser got probation and the one being abused got 30 years. With that logic it does not surprise me Oklahoma got the title world prison capital. It is sad that we are so focused on men being incarcerated that we do not have equivalent programs for women to get out early. It is nice that Wyoming has recently allowed women to attend a 6 month boot camp to take place of a 6 to 10 year sentence. The only bad part is that they have to transfer them to Florida because they only have a men only boot camp in Wyoming. There need to be something done about that so that women can has the same benefits men. Another interesting fact that this article presents is that we can compare our incarceration of women by state to an entire country. This is crazy, for example you can compare Kansas to Thailand and Wisconsin to El Salvador. These are entire countries but they still have nearly the same incarceration rates as US states. -ClarkKent711
Heres 10 quotes I found interesting about this article. “Oklahoma has long had a reputation for over-incarcerating women, especially mothers dealing with drug or alcohol addictions.” Why do you think they do this? Is drugs and alcohol a problem with women in Oklahoma so they do this to teach them a lesson? “And while the overall U.S. incarceration rate is falling, the women’s rate remains at an historic high.” Do you think women are doing something “wrong”. I think maybe women are starting to be more bold and do more harsher crimes. “As Oklahoma has become the “world’s prison capital,” the state’s women risk being further bulldozed by systems designed for men.” So women are getting the same/close to treatment as men because the system designed it for men. “Women often do not have the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration.” I do not think this is fair to women. Men should not be given an option to shorten their incarceration but not women. “Wyoming only recently allowed women to attend an alternative 6-month “boot camp” instead of serving 6-10 years in prison.” This is a good thing that they have started doing. Made other states should also do this. “El Salvadorian women are still routinely jailed for miscarriages, and have the same incarceration rate as women in Wisconsin.” It may not be the woman's fault to why she had a miscarriage so this is unfair. I know someone who has had a miscarriage because her body couldn't hold a baby. With this example you should not be put in jail for that. “The incarceration data we do have reveal a system that is clearly broken, but fixing it would be easier and more efficient if policy makers had complete and detailed data.” Something should clearly be done about our system if its mostly women being incarcerated. “This report updates how U.S. women fare in the world’s carceral landscape, comparing incarceration rates for women of each U.S. state with the equivalent rates for countries around the world.” “Despite recent reforms, the United States still incarcerates 698 people for every 100,000 residents, more than any other country.”Thats so many incarcerations and maybe there's something to do to lower these numbers. “The true scale of U.S. over-incarceration becomes even more apparent when we look to our closest allies, the fellow founding countries of the North American Treaty Organization (NATO).” Illinois incarceration is pretty high, its at 78. I never knew that illinois would be as high as it is compared to bigger states. -ny711
As soon as the article was opened up my eyes immediately went to the top section “U.S. incarceration of women remains at historic and global high.” To most people reading a title like this would only be glanced at because it seems like something that is extremely over exaggerated; now that I am in this class I know not to ignore that type of headline. As the article says, one hundred and thirty-three seems like a small number to us but compared to the rest of the world it’s the highest women incarceration rate. To add to this same first point, the united states is responsible for 30 percent of the world’s incarcerated. To lead in both incarceration and women incarcerated in the world combined is both interesting and concerning. The second thing I found interesting was the chart beneath these statistics. At this point the united states should just divide up into individual countries if we can’t do anything about this incarceration issue. Third, this one makes my blood boil. There was an Oklahoma case where a father violenty abused the children and the mother. How exactly does he get probation but she get THIRTY YEARS for not being able to protect her children. Fourth, Because Wyoming’s bootcamp is only open to men they send their women to states as far as florida to complete rather than going to prison. I know it’s costly but why not open another boot camp for women? It really cannot be that difficult. Why send them to bootcamp if they cannot serve time in their own state. Fifth, This one was extremely interesting to me: The United States make up twenty-seven of the world’s most carceral places for women. Even though Thailand comes in twenty-eighth place, it was assisted by America’s exported “war on drugs.” I’ll write my sixthi key interest as a question: Why are El Salvadorian women getting ROUTINELY JAILED FOR MISCARRIAGES. Alright the next interesting thing was the Women’s Incarceration Chart comparing Illinois and Founding North American Treaty Organization Countries. The United States is 133 percent of the globe’s female incarceration but Illinois is 78 percent. Looking at the other countries they are fifteen percent and below. If that doesn’t say something, I don’t know what does. Alright interesting point numero ocho! I thought that women didn’t really get arrested as often. Yes I am aware that they can get arrested AND DO and are usually arrested less than men but after reading this article that isn’t the case for the united states. Women get arrested less BUT still get arrested more than the rest of the world. Ninth, this article used women in all of the listed circumstances: youth held in juvenile residential facilities, detained by the U.S. Marshals Service, detained for immigration offenses, sex offenders detained, and women committed to psychiatric hospitals. And finally, If the United States was titled, “Prison Country.” Then Oklahoma would be the “Prison Capital.” Man this article was a stressful one but good to read and really keeps us aware of incarceration not only for men but for women as well. -Tanlion_nala711
I will agree one hundred times over that the system right now is not stable enough for a person to get out of prison and get a job within a month or two. Jobs now are completely meant for someone who has a clean record and that can go to an interview with nice clothes and a clean shower style look and just facing the knowledge of seeing people get out of prison I know first hand how hard it could be to find a job that will give you even the time of day. Also ex convicts have it hard trying just live as the companies and jobs they get could under pay them as much as they like because the ex convict cant find another job in time to pay bills. It is a broken system that i give my prayers to anyone who is trying to find their own way through.-MyHandle711
I find it incredible and outrageous the stats of every 100,000 women in Kentucky there are 241 women incarcerated. That number is so much higher than the whole country of France with 7 out of every 100,000 women are incarcerated in that country, that means Kentucky alone has a higher incarceration of 34 times the whole country of France. I also am amazed by how if states were countries the top 26 countries for number of women incarcerated would all be states. Also using the same “states as countries” concept the top 3 highest incarceration rate for women out of 100,00 would be Oklahoma with 281, Wyoming with 250, and kentucky with 241. Those number are outrageous. The first Country to even reach the top 28 with the states still being countries would be Thailand with 130 out of every 100,00 women. Those numbers are so outrageous it should put our own justice system into complete thought about why are the numbers so high in the states alone. It also amazes me that all this data was just from 2015 and not even from 2018. Going back to Kentucky if you relate the states out of 100,000 women to the ratio of the U.S.A which is still higher than the next country on any list it has stated 133 women out of 100,000 in the whole actual country. Kentucky alone has at least 10 times the number of women incarcerated of 100,000 than the closest allies to the states. These stats are absolutely stunning to me. I just don’t understand how we can constantly be charging people for so many years and not think of the consequences to our states economic structure is wild. I personally think we need to restructure our prison charges by different basses off each person and not by a set minimum charge.-MyHandle711
I firmly believe that we should have educational programs in place for women and vocational programs as it is not really fair due to the fact that these women failed in society in some way according to our justice system and by letting them fail again, how are we helping ourselves and them? I know we do not have an obligation to help them but if we implemented programs to benefit them, it may prevent them from coming back to jail or prison. It will already be incredibly tough to find an employer that accepts or has a release program and we are literally setting them up for damage and failure. -notacop711
The United States has the highest incarceration rate for women in the world. The women's rate of incarceration remains at a historic high. I think it is absolutely absurd that the United States has the highest incarceration rate overall. Our country is also known for heavy drug use and gun violence, which is very true. Only 4% of the world's female population lives in the United States but the United States accounts for over 30% of the world's incarcerated women. I think that number is kind of sad if you think about it because all of these women have a story that will never be heard by us pertaining to why they were locked up. In Oklahoma, a father violently abused a mother and her children and got probation for it. But the mother was sentenced to 30 years for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter's bones. This case is horrifying. The fact that the abuser got probation and no real time but the mother got thirty years, if anything both should be at least sentenced the same but the father definitely should have more time on his hands due to what he did. That is very sad to me that justice really was not served. Wyoming recently allowed women to attend an alternative 6 month boot camp rather than serving six to ten years in prison. Although I think this seems somewhat of a good idea, I am curious if it only goes as far as certain crimes to allow them to choose this option instead. In Texas, which this state incarcerates more women than any other states, it has few educational or vocational programs that are open to the women in its facilities. This is disturbing because they failed in society and we are just setting them back up to fail. -notacop711
That story about the man getting probation while the woman was sentenced to 30 years is just sickening to me. I really am having trouble wrapping my head around how that could possibly happen anywhere let along in the United States! I also didn't like learning about how women aren't afforded as many opportunities to receive educational and vocational programs like the men are. These programs help reduce the recidivism rate and should have equal access for everyone. Avatar711
Incarcerated women is at an all time high. Even though overall imprisonment rates have decreased, women being locked up is increasing and the male imprisonment rate is decreasing. Wyoming has a program where women can go to an alternative six month long boot camp instead of serving 6-10 years in prison. The United States has the most incarcerated women, next is Thailand which is surprising but it is because the war on drugs, women participate and have to be locked up as well. Next is El Salvador, and women are locked up for having miscarriages. Which is more ‘old-school,’ because when there wasn’t much research, most people believed women were the causes of their own miscarriages. Therefore, because El Salvador is a low income country they do not have the resources, evidence, and research that a first world country has. Here in the United States, women are usually let off the hook more than men. Women will usually either get a less year sentence or even be let go. Most women that are caught up in sex trafficking, immigration offenses, or even sex offenders are usually put in a mental hospital. Most of the time they are helping someone else but have been mentally messed with and don’t know the difference. Getting accurate data on women incarceration is very hard because most of them are not kept in prison very long or they even get out early because of good behavior. Overall, as a country, we need to look at other countries and look at how they prevent from locking up so many women so we can do the same. It will increase future incarceration and won’t cost taxpayers as much because of the lower crime rate. Having programs for women that are incarcerated will help them not reoffend and help them get back up on their feet as soon as they get out. If the United States as a whole prevents women committing crimes and shows what it is like to be incarcerated they are less likely to commit the crime because they will remember the consequences. ProbdrinkingStar$’s711
I’m blown away by that story of a woman getting 30 years in prison for not protecting her child from the man that abused him and the man that abused got probation. How someone could see that and think “yeah that seems right” is just mind boggling. I’m glad this article was chosen for us to read because honestly I never gave much thought to women in prison because all you really hear about is how they are incarcerated far less than men and I think that has made it seem like they are incarcerated much at all. But, turns out, we also have highest incarceration rate for women in the world....awesome. I also assumed womens corrections would be similar to mens but apparently they aren’t offered nearly as many opportunities to reduce their sentence nor do they have access to as many vocational or educational programs. It seems like such an obvious idea that women would have the same access to these things as men do that I never even considered they wouldn’t have these things. This article has been really eye opening. I liked how they included individual states and compared them to entire countries. Well, I guess liked isn’t the right word as it’s pretty depressing but it does allow you to get a different perspective on the numbers. It’s also incredibly sad to hear that women in El Salvador are jailed for having miscarriages and even they have a lower incarceration rate. I think it’s worth looking into why it is that we have such a high incarceration rate for both men and women compared to other countries. I doubt it’s because we are more inclined to commit crimes then every other country in the world. It seems to me we need to take a closer look at our laws and how we are enforcing them. For how developed we are it seems odd we’d constantly be compared to lesser developed countries in terms of how we handle our prisoners. Avatar711
I agree with you. I thought it was insanely disgusting that a women got thirty years in prison and the man got probation even though he did the act. It all doesn't seem to add up. But it does add up to why the United States has such a high incarceration rate, because we lock people up for the wrong reasons. Or in this case we lock the wrong person up! I think it is definitely a good idea to look into as why we have a high incarceration rate and why so many people are locked up. What is the United States doing different from the other countries around the world? ProbdrinkingStar$’s711
First and foremost the most interesting fact in this article to me was that only four percent of the women on earth live in the United states of America. I thought that we would account for a lot more women in the whole world rather than just four percent. Even then though, just having four percent of the woman in the world the next interesting fact is that we hold thirty percent of all of the women in the world that are in prison. We hold four percent total of the women in the world but we have thirty percent of all the women in prison. That number is just crazy to me. Another interesting fact to me is that twenty six out of our fifty states in this country have more female inmates then countries such as Thailand and El Salvador. To me it is crazy to me for even one state to have more than a whole country itself, let alone twenty six of our American states to have more. The next weird fact to me was the case about how a women and a man were both sentenced differently. The man in the case was sentenced to probation after breaking his own daughters arm, but the mother in this situation was sentenced thirty years in prison for not protecting their kids. How, anywhere is the entire world does this make sense to anybody? The man who broke the kids arm was only given probation by the judge but the mother who did nothing got thirty years in prison. Maybe this is why some people in the United States are afraid to speak up. They are afraid of getting punished like this mother did, when the father was the one who really did something wrong. Something else that was interesting to me was that Illinois alone has more female inmates than at least eleven other countries in the world. Eleven! That to me is just unreal. Are we really doing the right thing or not? How are other countries getting by without imprisoning some of these bad women? These are some things that just need worked on. -Steel711
I agree that the information in this article was very interesting especially the part about El Salvadorian women are still routinely jailed for miscarriages, and have the same incarceration rate as women in Wisconsin. Like even with the counties strict laws we still are locking up more women. I also think it's unfair that women don't get the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration. This is something we really need to have changed. You also made a lot of god point.-pizza711
This was a very interesting article and I liked how it wasn't just over this country but the world.One of the interesting facts that I learned from this article is Only 4% of the world’s female population lives in the U.S., but the U.S. accounts for over 30% of the world’s incarcerated women. So we have the most incarcerated women in the world.Another thing that I found interesting was how Women often do not have the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration. This is extremely unfair like how the wyoming boot camp was only available to men like that's a little sexist.another thing I found interesting is when it was comparing the rates to other countries and it said that El Salvadorian women are still routinely jailed for miscarriages, and have the same incarceration rate as women in Wisconsin. That's just insane to think about that even with there strict laws we still take the lead.Illinois to lock women up at rates that are at least 5 times the rates of our closest international allies. Another interesting thing a learned from this article is how Oklahoma has long had a reputation for over-incarcerating women, especially mothers dealing with drug or alcohol addictions.Another interesting thing is the United States still incarcerates 698 people for every 100,000 residents, more than any other country. This is alarming and it needs to change.When this article said that U.S. incarceration rate is falling, the women’s rate remains at an historic high I was a little shocked. The U.S. and its states make up 27 of the world’s most carceral places for women. Thailand comes in 28th place, fueled in part by America’s exported war on drugs.Another interesting thing is that even when compared to jurisdictions across the globe, even the U.S. states with the lowest levels of incarceration are far out of line with global norms. -pizza711
I thought this article was helpful as it also addressed other countries and what their incarceration rates of women are. It gave helpful context. This article stated countless statistics one right after another, each more tragic than the last. Simply mind blowing. The rate of women incarceration is at an all-time high. Upon reading this, I was impressed; I also wonder why that is. Is there an underlining cause for such a large increase in the crime rate? We as a country are responsible for figuring out the reasons behind this drastic growth for women prisoners. “Only four percent of the world’s population lives within the U.S., but the U.S accounts for over thirty percent of the worlds incarcerated women.” What on earth are we doing within the criminal justice system to have that many women behind bars. Those numbers are very sobering to me. I was completely surprised to learn about how drastic those numbers are. Those statistics are truly scary, and should impact our view on towards the sentencing process. This article stated a case of a violently abusive father. The father was sentenced to probation, while the mother was sentenced to thirty years in prison for failure to protect the child from the abusive father. How is that fair and just? I was frustrated and sad after I read that. Thirty years, that is totally uncalled for, in my opinion. That is over sentencing at its finest. What is truly irritating is that the father was only charged with probation while he was the abuser. I feel like there may have been a few other things within the case itself that had a major part in the sentencing process that this article failed to mention. But just the same, this case shows the unfairness women have. The justice system is over-incarcerating women, and we are paying the price for it. -CoalRoller 117
ReplyDeleteI mentioned a lot of similar points like what you made in your post. I do like that they give us a means of comparison by showing us what other countries' female incarceration rates are. I also did like that you mentioned we should be working on figuring out what the reason may be, if there is an underlying cause, for the all-time historic high of the U.S.'s female incarceration rates. This post was well written, nice job! GMan219711
DeleteIt is interesting that 133 is the current rate at which women are being incarcerated world wide, that is also the highest that the rate has ever been for women. It is interesting that only 4 percent of the women live in the U.S, but women who live in the U.S make up over 30 percent of the females incarcerated in the world. Oklahoma has the highest rate of women being incarcerated at 281, while the U.S. is just at 133. This article is helpful because it shows the states with the highest incarceration rate of women. The article is also helpful in determining what states over incarcerate women. Women that are in prison seem to get rushed by systems that were designed for men, not women. I find it strange that women in prison do not have access to the same help or programs that men get in prison that can shorten the incarceration. I feel that inmates, no matter the race or gender should get the same help across the board. There should not be a way to keep women from being able to do the same thing in prison as men. They should be able to lower their sentencing just like men are able to do. Women in Wyoming would have to travel to Florida to serve their time, because Wyoming’s camp is only for men. There should be the same number of prisons for both genders. This article is good because it shows the rates of women being incarcerated globally and the different ways that women are treated differently in prison than men are. I also feel that women should not be as highly charged as they are. Most of the violent crimes that are committed are men, so women should not get say a 20 year sentence when some men commit worse crimes and get less time. -crispychicken711.
ReplyDeleteI totally see what it is you are saying, not all people are horrendous animals and don’t deserve to just get completely shut out of society forever, most people they do something get in trouble and serve 30 days and decided that jail isn’t for them and that’s not what they are about and not where they want to be and they fix themselves and get they act together and probably will make sure they do not do anything that could land them back in there jail again.
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In my opinion, this article is good in the concept of showing every countries incarceration of women. In the article it shows the incarceration of every state as if it was a country and the most incarceration rate and the most one is Oklahoma and they claimed in the article that a man violently abused a mother and her children, and the father only got probation and Oklahoma sent the mother to prison for 30 years for failing to protect the kids. This is ridiculous that the Mother went to prison for 30 years even though the father was the one who broke the kids bones and because the father was violently abusing the Mother as well, it made sense that she couldn't defend the kids because she was already getting abused by the father. I do like what Wyoming is doing in doing an alter way to shorten incarceration. Wyoming recently started allowing women to do a 6 month "boot camp" instead of 6 years. I went into more depth of the article and I saw that El Salvador jails women just for miscarriages... Are you serious? Women nor Men have real control if a woman has a miscarriage.
ReplyDeleteI do agree that the United States now has no fear on taking women to jail, which is a lot different then the past, but I still do agree that women are still not as incarcerated near as much as men but in the current United States people will get arrested more than ever, like we talked about together that the United States has the highest incarceration rate I ave ever seen. I personally think that countries should take psychological standpoints into consideration when putting anybody into lock up but some people do deserve to be in prison but most people get way to cruel of a punishment.
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Yes -z33 711 I totally agree with you they should a little less harsh on their punishment because it’s starting to look like they are getting money hungry when it comes to bail money and really just throwing anybody in jail for an unnecessary amount of time. Their punishment doesn't equal and defeinly overrule their reasonings of getting locked up. Not saying this because they are women but because there’s no equal right going on rather they are men or women. A little slap on the wrist I think would be enough punishment to things people are getting 10+ years for.-KenzieLand711
DeleteI agree with you, that women should have not went to jail because she was getting abuse as well. She couldn’t even help herself, how was she going to help her kids. Now don’t get me wrong I would do anything to help my kids and I believe that would be considered self defense in that case. For him to get only probation was not fair at all, he was the one that did the damage and he didn’t really get nothing but probation and out free. They have to understand in some cases that they have to put thought into.-babyblue711
Delete-z33 711. Yes, I totally agree it was ridiculous for the mother of the child to be sent to prison for 30 years. While the father had gotten probation. That is beyond me, I can not image why the judge would have allowed that. Personally, I think it is uncalled for. You have a good point, we are not as scared to imprison women now more than ever before. It’s a fact, just look at the prison statistics. I wonder what the real cause of that is. Maybe the women’s rights; fair pay, voting and employment may have some underlining link to the drastic increase within our prison population. -CoalRoller117
DeleteReading this article I found a lot of things interesting like I didn’t know Oklahoma has long had a reputation for over incarcerating women especially mothers dealing with drug or alcohol addictions. The women with children are most likely to get incarcerated than the women with no children. Example in one case they talked about a father violently abused a mother and her children but the mother got sentenced to 30 years because the father broke the child bone so they looked at it as if the mother wasn’t protecting her daughter. I don’t think that was far because they both was getting beating and i'm pretty sure he mother tried very hard to protect both of them as much as she could. I also read where they was talking about The rapid growth of women’s incarceration, coupled with the longstanding focus on men, means that recent criminal justice reforms have not kept up with the number and needs of incarcerated women. So all the data they have been doting down isn’t accurate data it’s just assumptions based off the last data that was recorded. They also talked about how the missing data on women held in psychiatric commitment (for evaluation or treatment as Incompetent to Stand Trial or Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity) in each state is particularly significant. The records that they are dotting down about the women that are incarcerated with mental illness isn’t correct meaning if they go by the information that is giving about the women with mental illness and determine if they should provide more help and support to those with mental illness or not wouldn’t be right because the data can say they don’t need that much support but in reality they need the most support they can get from providing women with the correct medicine to building more mental facilities.-KenzieLand711
ReplyDeleteI agree with you KenzieLand711 when you said you dont think its fair about the mother getting sentenced more than the father. When the father beat both the mother and the children. I really don't understand why they would think she wouldn't want to protect her child. I was also shocked when I read the mother and fathers sentencing for this situation. The father only received probation and the mother receives 30 years in prison. The reasoning for the mothers harsh sentencing is for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter’s bones.This to me does not make sense and does not seem fair to the mother. Their sentencing should be reversed if anything.
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I found that in the article it says that a woman got 30 YEARS because she didn’t protect her kids when their father broke their bones. I find that interesting because he only got probation and she went to Jail for it. She was getting abuse as well what more could she have done. If anything, he shouldn’t have gone to jail for life for hurting the children. Yea, maybe she could have tried harder when he was abusing her and it could have been for self-defense. But, for her to get sentenced for that is crazy. I’m not surprise that a lot of women goes to jail for drug charges. The law is taking that type of crime very serious and lot of people are getting charged for it, for a long period of time. Which can take up room for some other serious crime. In the article it states that Even Texas, which incarcerates more women than any other state, has few educational or vocational programs open to the women in its facilities. That’s not fair at all, why do men have more options than women. women should have the same ability to get help like a male do. That’s also an example of how male see women being a police officer. People think women shouldn’t do anything but sit around. No, that’s not the case women need education, help when they get out prison, job, everything a man get in prison a female should as well. Some women just need help and need someone to talk to. No, we shouldn’t just let their crimes go but we need to be considerate of their past. Most women commit cries because of their past such as rape, abuse, neglect and so one. -babyblue711
ReplyDeleteI also agree that it was shocking to see that the woman in this case was sentenced to thirty years in jail but the father of the children was only sentenced to probation. What sense does that make to anybody? Sure she maybe could have tried more to protect the children by calling the police, but when people get these kinds of punishments like probation, where you know the father is going to come right back into the same house that you live in, she is probably too scared to tell the police. If he broke his own daughters bones what else will he do to his girlfriend? I would be too scared to tell the police myself just to protect myself. -Steel711
DeleteFirst I’d would like to start with saying that this article really puts things into perspective world wide. I was very shocked and confused to see that there are countries like El Salvador that incarcerate women because of miscarriages, i think this is ridiculous and I’m sure glad the US has at least something going right for our incarcerated women. It really confuses me how a country can incarcerate a person for something that is completely out of their own control. One huge problem we have in the U.S. is that our incarcerated women do not have access to diversion camps like men do. Could you image how many women we could get back into the world rehabilitated in a timely fashion if they could go to six month boot camp instead of behind bars for three years. One thing that really confused me however is when the article describes Oklahoma as the prison capital of the world and then says that Texas incarcerates more women than any other state. So which one is it? Oklahoma or texas? I may be reading or interpreting it wrong but I’m confused. The article always say that the U.S.’s exported “war on drugs” is in part a reason Thailand's women incarceration rate is what it is, how come the U.S. is affecting the justice systems in other countries and what is the point in it? All though all of these points really shocked me the one that shocked me the most was that the U.S. only makes up about four percent of the world’s population in women but make up thirty percent of the worlds population of incarcerated women. I mean if you want to talk about asinine let’s talk about this.
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Yes, RickyBobby I agree that it is seriously ridiculous that El Salvador will incarcerate women because of things like miscarriages. I do also think women do get treated unfairly when it comes to getting lesser sentencing by things such as "boot camp".
DeleteRickeyBobby I didn't even think about how they say that Texas does incarcerate more women then Oklahoma but they said that Oklahoma leads the incarceration rate of women. You did open my eyes to seeing how the United States does only have 40% of the women population but has the 30% locked up incarceration, I do agree that this is asinine.
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While reading this article something really stood out to me, only 4 percent of the women is populated in the united states, but the united states incarcerate 30% of the world women population. Women are human beans to and make mistakes as well, if every city if the untied states was it’s on state you’ll have an decent amount of women from every single city getting incarcerated but yes you have some cities like Oklahoma that leading the pack down to Comoros and others who only have 1 female incarcerated per 100,000 people, and I understand that drug and alcohol is bad sign when you start to increase your usage rate of it, but do I think that a lot of the women that’s locked up in Oklahoma deserve to be incarcerated and taken away from they family and have their kids thrown into the system absolutely not I believe that there’s other ways to get through to a person rather than locking them up and throwing away the key.
ReplyDeleteSo while reading this article you come across and example case if that’s what you want to call it, so for abuse the husband got probation for beating he’s daughter and broke her jaw bone, So there’s this gray when it comes to disciplining whether its too much or too little but here in this fact I felt like because it was physical injuries that he should’ve got more than just an slap on the wrist, and probation should he have got a lot of time probably not but 2 or 3 years was deserving for what he did to his own daughter, and who is there to say that the mother didn’t protect their child because of what he would do to her? Or what he is already doing to her, not to say that the mother was in the right either for not protecting her child as a parent your job is to yes make sure your child is on the right path but also be their protector against any oncoming threat especially if you know they can’t fend for their self-Period!
Reading this article has taught me a lot and it was very intriguing to learn how some women are down wrong with in the justice system.
Statechamp711
Dear Statechamp711, I enjoyed reading your thoughts on this article and also what you found most interesting. I also thought that when the article stated “ Only four percent of the world’s female population lives in the U.S., but the U.S. accounts for over thirty percent of the world’s incarcerated women.” it was very shocking to read and think about. In addition I also thought that the “ recent illuminating case, a father violently abused a mother and her children, and got probation, but the mother was sentenced to 30 years for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter’s bones.” was a very sad story and the fact that the mother got 30 years of not protecting her child from an abusive father but the father only got probation. -mmmchicken711
DeleteThere are many interesting things I found in reading this article. I never realized how our incarcerated female population compared to other countries around the world- it’s significantly higher even though we only account for about 4% of the world’s female population. The first interesting statistic I found was that in Oklahoma, 281 females out of every 100,000 are incarcerated, which is insane in comparison to places like Afghanistan, in which only 5 out of every 100,000 females are incarcerated. The majority of the U.S. states, when looked at as countries in the graph shown on the article, are pretty much all right up at the top. Another interesting thing I found in this article I was unaware of was that women don’t typically have access to as many “diversion and other programs” as are offered to men. One such example is that of the alternative 6-month “boot camp” men have long had the option of serving, instead of serving 6-10 years in prison. This was just recently changed in Wyoming, but with this being the case, the article states that they may have to travel as far as Florida to attend such a boot-camp because Wyoming’s camp is still only open to men. Yet another statistic I found extremely interesting was comparing a relatively low population per 100,000 of incarcerated females, Illinois, the next closet founding NATO country would be Portugal, with a rate of 15 per 100,000. This is staggering, being as this is at least 5 times the rates of our closest international allies, like Portugal, Luxembourg, the UK, Canada, Norway, and Belgium just to list a few. Something else I found that surprised me was how difficult it actually is just to find out just how many incarcerated females we have in the U.S. for quite a few reasons. A couple of these reasons include the fact that U.S. Marshals Service does not report its detained population by sex, and the U.S. military has not reported the people under military jurisdiction by sex since 1998. In order to find the info presented in the article, they had to use information from 2015 and could only gather so much. This means the numbers could be much higher by this year, or simply change drastically. Something that may change these numbers significantly would be if the data collectors had been able to add the number of girls being held in youth facilities. They were unable to find any relative data to add these numbers to our statistics. One other thing I found interesting was that people don’t make nearly as big of a deal of the rates of men incarcerated compared to women. This shocks me because an insanely larger number of incarcerated males would be seen in comparison to women. I believe that both women and men are equally capable of committing crimes, so why should they not be at least somewhat closer? This isn’t even mentioned in the article. The last interesting thing I found kind of adds onto another fact I’ve already mentioned about how difficult it is to find out just how many women are incarcerated in the U.S. The last fact I’ll state is that it’s next to impossible to account for all the data on justice-involved psychiatric female patients because the data just isn't available. GMan219711
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article, I found a lot of it interesting. One thing that I found interesting is that with the rapid growth of women’s incarceration that current criminal justice reforms cannot keep up with the numbers and needs of the women. I also found interesting about this article is that women don’t get the same access to programs, that men have, that would shorten their incarceration. They do however have alternative opinions. For example, in Wyoming, recently allowed women to attend a 6 month ‘boot camp’, instead of serving 6 to 10 years in prison. But, women would have to go as far as Florida to serve their time, because the ‘boot camp’ in Wyoming only allows men. Another example would be in Texas, who incarcerates more women than any other state in the United States, has only a few programs open to women in their facilities. With the women’s incarceration rate at a historic high, even though in the United States incarceration rate falling. Only 4 percent of the female population living in the United States, the US still accounts for 30 percent of the world’s incarcerated women, according to the article. I actually found this surprising. I knew that the number of women being incarcerated was increasing at a rapid rate, but I had no idea that the United States held about 30 percent to the world’s incarcerated women. Also the article says that the United States comes in 27th place, when it comes to incarcerated women, with Thailand coming in 28th. The main reason being America’s ‘war on drugs’. Something I saw in this article that I found fascinating, is that I saw states in the United States, being compared to places around the world. For example, that Kansas and Thailand women are incarcerated at similar rates. Also that women form El Salvador are incarcerated at the same rate as women in Wisconsin. Also, I didn’t know that Oklahoma has become, quote, ‘world’s prison capital’. Which I find both sad and interesting at the same time. – Adventureflight711
ReplyDeleteI also found that interesting that with the increase in women being incarcerated, we cannot keep up with their needs or give the same benefits as men. How hard is it to give them the same programs that they give to men to shorten their sentence. To me it does not seem like it would be that hard, there needs to be a major overhaul on how we treat women in the judicial system. Wyoming step in the right direction in allowing women to do a 6 month boot camp to take place of a 6 to 10 year sentence, even though they have to be sent to Florida.- ClarkKent711
DeleteI thought this article was very interesting to read and also very informative. I like how they incorporated other countries statistics in this article as well. I thought that is was absolutely mind boggling to read that “ Only four percent of the world’s female population lives in the U.S., but the U.S. accounts for over thirty percent of the world’s incarcerated women. Also the states of Oklahoma's having the largest incarceration rate throughout the whole U.S. Also Oklahoma is in the works of becoming the world’s prison capital. In the article when I read about the “ recent illuminating case, a father violently abused a mother and her children, and got probation, but the mother was sentenced to 30 years for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter’s bones.” I thought that this was such an awful story to read about and how the mother got blames or the father breaking his “daughters” bones. I don’t understand how someone could ever intentionally hurt their child let alone break a bone. Also the fact that women often do not have the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration. The fact Wyoming only recently allowed women to attend an alternative 6-month “boot camp” instead of serving 6-10 years in prison but even then the women would have go as far as Florida to serve their time, because Wyoming’s camp is only open to men. I never knew of a boot camp program that shortened someones incarceration. The U.S. and its states make up 27 of the world’s most carceral places for women. The over incarceration becomes even more appeanet when you look at our closest allies founding countries of the North American Treaty Organization (NATO). From what I can recall I have never heard of NATO until this class. We try and help decrease incarceration rate but we continue to lock women up at rates that are at least 5 times the rates of our closest international allies. “So even the U.S. states with the lowest levels of incarceration are far out of line with global norms.”
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I also liked how they had other countries statistics because it’s very informing to see what is happening outside of this country. I agree how howful the story was about the father abusing the kids and the mother getting the prison sentence. The father that hurt the child got probation but the abuse could of really made a big impact on the child and I wondered how they handled that. It makes me sad when I hear about parents abusing their kids because one of the jobs as a parent is to protect them, not to hurt or abuse them. I thought the boot camp was interesting too, I kind of want to know more about what it’s about. -Soccer31711
DeleteI found it interesting how Oklahoma's incarceration rate for women was 281. I found it interesting how Oklahoma has had a problem with mothers being involved with drugs or alcohol. I found it interesting that if a father beats a mother and the children, he gets probation. That does not seem right especially if a mother gets a 30 year sentence for not protecting the kids when injuries occur. I feel like the father should get a prison sentence. The father was the primary cause of it. Maybe that’s the reason why the women are involved in the drugs and alcohol because they feel like they need a depressant to help them deal with the problem and then another problem is created and that’s the addiction to the depressants. I found it interesting that they referer to Oklahoma at the world's prison capital, I never knew about that. I found it interesting that the women don't have the opportunities for their sentence to get shorten but men have that opportunity. I found it interesting that their is an alternative 6-month boot camp you can do instead of being in prison for 6-10 years. I kind of want to know that the boot camp is about and what they have to do. I also found it interesting that they are just now allowing women to do it.. Why don't they have the opportunity? I found it interesting that Texas has more women in prison than any other state but they have a few educational or vocational programs for the women in prison. Why do some of the states not allow this opportunity? I found it interesting that Kansas and Thailand are incarcerated at similar rates. I found it interesting and upsetting that the women in El Salvadorian are jailed for miscarriages. Some women don't do drugs or drink and that they can still have a miscarriage. They don't have any control over that. That’s wrong to put a woman in jail because she had a miscarriage. I found it interesting that women have more mental health problems than men that are incarcerated as well. -Soccer31711
ReplyDeleteI mentioned some very similar points. I also found it very interesting that Oklahoma has problems with mothers and drugs, and they lock them up. I agree that is not right for a father to get probation for beating his wife but, but if the wife is caught doing drugs she will go to jail. I also found it very interesting that Oklahoma was the capital of incarceration. A women should never be put in jail for something she cant control like a miscarriage.
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I found this article very interesting, with very many interesting points. It amazed me that out of 100,000 residents 698 people are incarcerated. That number may not seem very big but it is actually quite significant. Out of those 698 133 of those incarcerated victims are women. As I said before 133 people doesn't seem very big but it's actually quite significant. I think it's crazy how even though America's incarceration rates are slowly declining, the female incarceration rates are at a all time historic high. Only four percent of the female population lives in America but we account for thirty percent of the female incarceration rate. I find that amazing that America accounts for over a quarter of female incarceration rates. It surprises me that Oklahoma will incarcerate women who are mothers that are struggling with a drug addiction. I don’t think officials should take mothers away from their family just because they are fighting an addiction. If the government cannot keep up financially with the amount of females we are incarcerated, then why keep doing. The article states that some states can't keep up with the amount of females being incarcerated, and give them the proper facilities, or programs that they need to. Another interesting thing is that a prison in Wyoming was offering a six month boot camp alternative for females, instead of serving a six to ten years in prison. But the boot camp was all the way in Florida, that is ridiculous. The United States makes up for 27th place for the country with the most incarcerated women, that is absolutely crazy that we lock that many people up without even hearing about it. Oklahoma the state has become the world's prison leading capital, and it's not even a country I find that very interesting. Illinois locks up more women 5 times more than our allie portugal.
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Of everything I read in both your response and in the article, I found it enraging that in Oklahoma women are more likely to incarceration if they have a child and are in abusive environments. What do you think about that example from the article? Do you think a man should get probation from beating his wife and children and the woman should get thirty years for not being able to protect the children? I think that is extremely over the top and enraging.
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Before I read this article I would have never guessed that the United States would have the one of highest percentage of women being incarcerated in the world. Women that are incarcerated in the United States is 133 out of every 100,000 residents. This might not seem like a high number, but the United State only has 4 percent of the worlds population of women and it accounts for 30 percent of the worlds incarcerated women. What is interesting is that Oklahoma has the highest percent of incarcerated women in the United States. I would have guessed it to be a bigger state such as California or New York. A crazy thing that this state did is that they gave a women 30 years for not protecting her child from an abusive father. The child and her were being abused but the abuser got probation and the one being abused got 30 years. With that logic it does not surprise me Oklahoma got the title world prison capital. It is sad that we are so focused on men being incarcerated that we do not have equivalent programs for women to get out early. It is nice that Wyoming has recently allowed women to attend a 6 month boot camp to take place of a 6 to 10 year sentence. The only bad part is that they have to transfer them to Florida because they only have a men only boot camp in Wyoming. There need to be something done about that so that women can has the same benefits men. Another interesting fact that this article presents is that we can compare our incarceration of women by state to an entire country. This is crazy, for example you can compare Kansas to Thailand and Wisconsin to El Salvador. These are entire countries but they still have nearly the same incarceration rates as US states. -ClarkKent711
ReplyDeleteHeres 10 quotes I found interesting about this article. “Oklahoma has long had a reputation for over-incarcerating women, especially mothers dealing with drug or alcohol addictions.” Why do you think they do this? Is drugs and alcohol a problem with women in Oklahoma so they do this to teach them a lesson?
ReplyDelete“And while the overall U.S. incarceration rate is falling, the women’s rate remains at an historic high.” Do you think women are doing something “wrong”. I think maybe women are starting to be more bold and do more harsher crimes.
“As Oklahoma has become the “world’s prison capital,” the state’s women risk being further bulldozed by systems designed for men.” So women are getting the same/close to treatment as men because the system designed it for men.
“Women often do not have the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration.” I do not think this is fair to women. Men should not be given an option to shorten their incarceration but not women.
“Wyoming only recently allowed women to attend an alternative 6-month “boot camp” instead of serving 6-10 years in prison.” This is a good thing that they have started doing. Made other states should also do this.
“El Salvadorian women are still routinely jailed for miscarriages, and have the same incarceration rate as women in Wisconsin.” It may not be the woman's fault to why she had a miscarriage so this is unfair. I know someone who has had a miscarriage because her body couldn't hold a baby. With this example you should not be put in jail for that.
“The incarceration data we do have reveal a system that is clearly broken, but fixing it would be easier and more efficient if policy makers had complete and detailed data.” Something should clearly be done about our system if its mostly women being incarcerated.
“This report updates how U.S. women fare in the world’s carceral landscape, comparing incarceration rates for women of each U.S. state with the equivalent rates for countries around the world.”
“Despite recent reforms, the United States still incarcerates 698 people for every 100,000 residents, more than any other country.”Thats so many incarcerations and maybe there's something to do to lower these numbers.
“The true scale of U.S. over-incarceration becomes even more apparent when we look to our closest allies, the fellow founding countries of the North American Treaty Organization (NATO).” Illinois incarceration is pretty high, its at 78. I never knew that illinois would be as high as it is compared to bigger states.
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As soon as the article was opened up my eyes immediately went to the top section “U.S. incarceration of women remains at historic and global high.” To most people reading a title like this would only be glanced at because it seems like something that is extremely over exaggerated; now that I am in this class I know not to ignore that type of headline. As the article says, one hundred and thirty-three seems like a small number to us but compared to the rest of the world it’s the highest women incarceration rate. To add to this same first point, the united states is responsible for 30 percent of the world’s incarcerated. To lead in both incarceration and women incarcerated in the world combined is both interesting and concerning. The second thing I found interesting was the chart beneath these statistics. At this point the united states should just divide up into individual countries if we can’t do anything about this incarceration issue. Third, this one makes my blood boil. There was an Oklahoma case where a father violenty abused the children and the mother. How exactly does he get probation but she get THIRTY YEARS for not being able to protect her children. Fourth, Because Wyoming’s bootcamp is only open to men they send their women to states as far as florida to complete rather than going to prison. I know it’s costly but why not open another boot camp for women? It really cannot be that difficult. Why send them to bootcamp if they cannot serve time in their own state. Fifth, This one was extremely interesting to me: The United States make up twenty-seven of the world’s most carceral places for women. Even though Thailand comes in twenty-eighth place, it was assisted by America’s exported “war on drugs.” I’ll write my sixthi key interest as a question: Why are El Salvadorian women getting ROUTINELY JAILED FOR MISCARRIAGES. Alright the next interesting thing was the Women’s Incarceration Chart comparing Illinois and Founding North American Treaty Organization Countries. The United States is 133 percent of the globe’s female incarceration but Illinois is 78 percent. Looking at the other countries they are fifteen percent and below. If that doesn’t say something, I don’t know what does. Alright interesting point numero ocho! I thought that women didn’t really get arrested as often. Yes I am aware that they can get arrested AND DO and are usually arrested less than men but after reading this article that isn’t the case for the united states. Women get arrested less BUT still get arrested more than the rest of the world. Ninth, this article used women in all of the listed circumstances: youth held in juvenile residential facilities, detained by the U.S. Marshals Service, detained for immigration offenses, sex offenders detained, and women committed to psychiatric hospitals. And finally, If the United States was titled, “Prison Country.” Then Oklahoma would be the “Prison Capital.” Man this article was a stressful one but good to read and really keeps us aware of incarceration not only for men but for women as well.
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I will agree one hundred times over that the system right now is not stable enough for a person to get out of prison and get a job within a month or two. Jobs now are completely meant for someone who has a clean record and that can go to an interview with nice clothes and a clean shower style look and just facing the knowledge of seeing people get out of prison I know first hand how hard it could be to find a job that will give you even the time of day. Also ex convicts have it hard trying just live as the companies and jobs they get could under pay them as much as they like because the ex convict cant find another job in time to pay bills. It is a broken system that i give my prayers to anyone who is trying to find their own way through.-MyHandle711
DeleteI find it incredible and outrageous the stats of every 100,000 women in Kentucky there are 241 women incarcerated. That number is so much higher than the whole country of France with 7 out of every 100,000 women are incarcerated in that country, that means Kentucky alone has a higher incarceration of 34 times the whole country of France. I also am amazed by how if states were countries the top 26 countries for number of women incarcerated would all be states. Also using the same “states as countries” concept the top 3 highest incarceration rate for women out of 100,00 would be Oklahoma with 281, Wyoming with 250, and kentucky with 241. Those number are outrageous. The first Country to even reach the top 28 with the states still being countries would be Thailand with 130 out of every 100,00 women. Those numbers are so outrageous it should put our own justice system into complete thought about why are the numbers so high in the states alone. It also amazes me that all this data was just from 2015 and not even from 2018. Going back to Kentucky if you relate the states out of 100,000 women to the ratio of the U.S.A which is still higher than the next country on any list it has stated 133 women out of 100,000 in the whole actual country. Kentucky alone has at least 10 times the number of women incarcerated of 100,000 than the closest allies to the states. These stats are absolutely stunning to me. I just don’t understand how we can constantly be charging people for so many years and not think of the consequences to our states economic structure is wild. I personally think we need to restructure our prison charges by different basses off each person and not by a set minimum charge.-MyHandle711
ReplyDeleteI firmly believe that we should have educational programs in place for women and vocational programs as it is not really fair due to the fact that these women failed in society in some way according to our justice system and by letting them fail again, how are we helping ourselves and them? I know we do not have an obligation to help them but if we implemented programs to benefit them, it may prevent them from coming back to jail or prison. It will already be incredibly tough to find an employer that accepts or has a release program and we are literally setting them up for damage and failure. -notacop711
DeleteThe United States has the highest incarceration rate for women in the world. The women's rate of incarceration remains at a historic high. I think it is absolutely absurd that the United States has the highest incarceration rate overall. Our country is also known for heavy drug use and gun violence, which is very true. Only 4% of the world's female population lives in the United States but the United States accounts for over 30% of the world's incarcerated women. I think that number is kind of sad if you think about it because all of these women have a story that will never be heard by us pertaining to why they were locked up. In Oklahoma, a father violently abused a mother and her children and got probation for it. But the mother was sentenced to 30 years for failing to protect their kids when he broke their daughter's bones. This case is horrifying. The fact that the abuser got probation and no real time but the mother got thirty years, if anything both should be at least sentenced the same but the father definitely should have more time on his hands due to what he did. That is very sad to me that justice really was not served. Wyoming recently allowed women to attend an alternative 6 month boot camp rather than serving six to ten years in prison. Although I think this seems somewhat of a good idea, I am curious if it only goes as far as certain crimes to allow them to choose this option instead. In Texas, which this state incarcerates more women than any other states, it has few educational or vocational programs that are open to the women in its facilities. This is disturbing because they failed in society and we are just setting them back up to fail. -notacop711
ReplyDeleteThat story about the man getting probation while the woman was sentenced to 30 years is just sickening to me. I really am having trouble wrapping my head around how that could possibly happen anywhere let along in the United States! I also didn't like learning about how women aren't afforded as many opportunities to receive educational and vocational programs like the men are. These programs help reduce the recidivism rate and should have equal access for everyone.
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Incarcerated women is at an all time high. Even though overall imprisonment rates have decreased, women being locked up is increasing and the male imprisonment rate is decreasing. Wyoming has a program where women can go to an alternative six month long boot camp instead of serving 6-10 years in prison. The United States has the most incarcerated women, next is Thailand which is surprising but it is because the war on drugs, women participate and have to be locked up as well. Next is El Salvador, and women are locked up for having miscarriages. Which is more ‘old-school,’ because when there wasn’t much research, most people believed women were the causes of their own miscarriages. Therefore, because El Salvador is a low income country they do not have the resources, evidence, and research that a first world country has. Here in the United States, women are usually let off the hook more than men. Women will usually either get a less year sentence or even be let go. Most women that are caught up in sex trafficking, immigration offenses, or even sex offenders are usually put in a mental hospital. Most of the time they are helping someone else but have been mentally messed with and don’t know the difference. Getting accurate data on women incarceration is very hard because most of them are not kept in prison very long or they even get out early because of good behavior. Overall, as a country, we need to look at other countries and look at how they prevent from locking up so many women so we can do the same. It will increase future incarceration and won’t cost taxpayers as much because of the lower crime rate. Having programs for women that are incarcerated will help them not reoffend and help them get back up on their feet as soon as they get out. If the United States as a whole prevents women committing crimes and shows what it is like to be incarcerated they are less likely to commit the crime because they will remember the consequences.
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I’m blown away by that story of a woman getting 30 years in prison for not protecting her child from the man that abused him and the man that abused got probation. How someone could see that and think “yeah that seems right” is just mind boggling. I’m glad this article was chosen for us to read because honestly I never gave much thought to women in prison because all you really hear about is how they are incarcerated far less than men and I think that has made it seem like they are incarcerated much at all. But, turns out, we also have highest incarceration rate for women in the world....awesome. I also assumed womens corrections would be similar to mens but apparently they aren’t offered nearly as many opportunities to reduce their sentence nor do they have access to as many vocational or educational programs. It seems like such an obvious idea that women would have the same access to these things as men do that I never even considered they wouldn’t have these things. This article has been really eye opening. I liked how they included individual states and compared them to entire countries. Well, I guess liked isn’t the right word as it’s pretty depressing but it does allow you to get a different perspective on the numbers. It’s also incredibly sad to hear that women in El Salvador are jailed for having miscarriages and even they have a lower incarceration rate. I think it’s worth looking into why it is that we have such a high incarceration rate for both men and women compared to other countries. I doubt it’s because we are more inclined to commit crimes then every other country in the world. It seems to me we need to take a closer look at our laws and how we are enforcing them. For how developed we are it seems odd we’d constantly be compared to lesser developed countries in terms of how we handle our prisoners.
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I agree with you. I thought it was insanely disgusting that a women got thirty years in prison and the man got probation even though he did the act. It all doesn't seem to add up. But it does add up to why the United States has such a high incarceration rate, because we lock people up for the wrong reasons. Or in this case we lock the wrong person up! I think it is definitely a good idea to look into as why we have a high incarceration rate and why so many people are locked up. What is the United States doing different from the other countries around the world?
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First and foremost the most interesting fact in this article to me was that only four percent of the women on earth live in the United states of America. I thought that we would account for a lot more women in the whole world rather than just four percent. Even then though, just having four percent of the woman in the world the next interesting fact is that we hold thirty percent of all of the women in the world that are in prison. We hold four percent total of the women in the world but we have thirty percent of all the women in prison. That number is just crazy to me. Another interesting fact to me is that twenty six out of our fifty states in this country have more female inmates then countries such as Thailand and El Salvador. To me it is crazy to me for even one state to have more than a whole country itself, let alone twenty six of our American states to have more. The next weird fact to me was the case about how a women and a man were both sentenced differently. The man in the case was sentenced to probation after breaking his own daughters arm, but the mother in this situation was sentenced thirty years in prison for not protecting their kids. How, anywhere is the entire world does this make sense to anybody? The man who broke the kids arm was only given probation by the judge but the mother who did nothing got thirty years in prison. Maybe this is why some people in the United States are afraid to speak up. They are afraid of getting punished like this mother did, when the father was the one who really did something wrong. Something else that was interesting to me was that Illinois alone has more female inmates than at least eleven other countries in the world. Eleven! That to me is just unreal. Are we really doing the right thing or not? How are other countries getting by without imprisoning some of these bad women? These are some things that just need worked on. -Steel711
ReplyDeleteI agree that the information in this article was very interesting especially the part about El Salvadorian women are still routinely jailed for miscarriages, and have the same incarceration rate as women in Wisconsin. Like even with the counties strict laws we still are locking up more women. I also think it's unfair that women don't get the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration. This is something we really need to have changed. You also made a lot of god point.-pizza711
DeleteThis was a very interesting article and I liked how it wasn't just over this country but the world.One of the interesting facts that I learned from this article is Only 4% of the world’s female population lives in the U.S., but the U.S. accounts for over 30% of the world’s incarcerated women. So we have the most incarcerated women in the world.Another thing that I found interesting was how Women often do not have the same access to diversion and other programs that can shorten incarceration. This is extremely unfair like how the wyoming boot camp was only available to men like that's a little sexist.another thing I found interesting is when it was comparing the rates to other countries and it said that El Salvadorian women are still routinely jailed for miscarriages, and have the same incarceration rate as women in Wisconsin. That's just insane to think about that even with there strict laws we still take the lead.Illinois to lock women up at rates that are at least 5 times the rates of our closest international allies. Another interesting thing a learned from this article is how Oklahoma has long had a reputation for over-incarcerating women, especially mothers dealing with drug or alcohol addictions.Another interesting thing is the United States still incarcerates 698 people for every 100,000 residents, more than any other country. This is alarming and it needs to change.When this article said that U.S. incarceration rate is falling, the women’s rate remains at an historic high I was a little shocked. The U.S. and its states make up 27 of the world’s most carceral places for women. Thailand comes in 28th place, fueled in part by America’s exported war on drugs.Another interesting thing is that even when compared to jurisdictions across the globe, even the U.S. states with the lowest levels of incarceration are far out of line with global norms. -pizza711
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