Today In class I listened in on a juvenile detective talk about why he became, and police officer and he trial and tribulations before and while on as and police officer. He started of by saying felt it was a calling from god, in some sorts I believe that god put some people on this earth with the job of protecting and serving. Being a police officer or being involved in any emergency response career is all dangerous but be a police officer the one that take being more than just humble, because in this day in age it seems like the community hate the police and that leads me into another topic the juvenile detective talked about which was are community justice system being broken beyond repair. In some way I do believe this to be true but yes, I will still love to be an police officer because you see some cases where a suspect does something horrendous, and get a lower sentence or doesn’t get the same amount of treatment where as somebody else can do another crime less horrendous than the previous one I talked about and get life or even get its life completely taking away from one. Something else I found interesting that is if someone goes federal they have a chance to a lower sentence and an immunity or previous crimes if they give info on another person which can lead to an indictment, now how can you do this and take a word of a criminal that would tell you anything to get time knocked off and plus you have no information to go on or leads to follow just a statement from a convicted subject trying to find a easy our for an act in which he or she committed? Do I think that a lot of reason why female or males mainly males are out here in all this trouble because of fatherless homes? To some extent yes I do believe that because some juveniles seek attention from bad influencers because there’s no fathers at home because its just the little things like if a juvenile loves shoes but his parent can’t afford it because it’s a single parent home and she works pay check to pay check but someone comes around and buy the juvenile some shoes he’s more reluctant to find more ways or things he or she can do so he or she can get mores shoes and that one thing leads to another and then the next thing you know they 25 been in and out of jail they how teenage life and no they getting life and there life not over living wise but socially wise they life is over. Being a police officer, you got to ask yourself this question “Are you still willing to do this job, knowing you can go to jail for doing something right? -STATECHAMP007
I agree with everything you have wrote because I was in class when the police officer was talking. And I dont understand what I am supposed to write about. The proffer system is really bogus honestly. And the government need to stop being lazy or whatever they going thru in life and need to make new laws cause the laws they have are outdated. Time has changed fr where not in the 1st century. Smiles007
I agree with you that many juvenile offenders act due to having no guidance or father in the home. This can also be vice versa. They are stuck in a single parent home living paycheck to paycheck. Meaning that parent is probably gone most of the time living to kids to fend for themselves. Those kids are going to find ways to steal or get involved because they have no one around them to show them right from wrong. Many kids need guidance at there age but most are left to fend for themselves. That is the sad reality about today's society. -hollywood007
What I learned in class from the officer and the other one that is going to be an officer. The first that I learned from the officer was that never tell the truth on a polygraphs, because their not a reliable form of technology. The second thing I learned was that the officer was a very spiritual person who believed in God. The third thing I learned that 99% of your training is incarceration, while your in the acedmeny. The fourth thing I learned that being a police officer is a job not a career. The fifth thing I learned was that the criminal justic system is not fair. The sixth thing I learned the community system is usually the first thing to be cut while being an officer. The seven thing I learned was from the police officer was that he believed 90% of crimes committed are from fatherless homes. The eight thing I learned was that being a police officer can affect generations. The ninth thing I learned was about ride along and ho you can ride with a police officer during their shift. The last thing I learned was, police academy your basically sitting in class. Smiles007
I think the point he made about the homes without fathers tend to lead to increased juvenile crimes is true. What he was saying about how the fathers need to be in the homes to allow for the kids to learn and understand what to do and what not to do. I think it is interesting that 99% of what is taught and learned in the academy is incarceration. I agree that becoming a police officer and becoming a good police officer can affect generations that you work with, you can help the elderly, tend to the middle aged, and teach or help the younger ages, all while being a role model to the citizens. -Jar007
I did hear when he said if you ever had problems then it could also carry onto your family which is very sad to me.. a mistake I could make should not determine how my family looks. I also do believe that homes without fathers would act out more than a home with two loving parents. Knowing that more than half of the material taught is incarceration which is something you need to learn but we have so many more serious topics to be taught. It is sad that community policing is the first thing cut from departments because I feel as if some communities need an officer to have a relationship with especially one with a lot of teenagers there. -freckles007
I agree with all the things you said about the officers. I agree with the officer when he said the polygraphs are not a reliable form of technology. Which is very interesting to me because I’ve heard people talk about polygraphs before but not in depth as he did. I think the point he made being a police officer isn’t a job it’s a career because he said it’s like giving back to the community and being close with the community because your always engaging with the community. It’s about serving and protecting the community. -SR
I agree that this officer has a strong faith in Jesus, so it doesn't supprise me that he has used this to an advantage in the field. I believe that everything happens for a reason, so if you really want to be a cop God will protect you, or something will happen for a reason. I almost forgot about the ride alongs, and how I can do that. It will really give me experience and will look good on a resume when I apply to be a police officer. Many of the views and mindsets that the police officer talked about can really be used when I become a police officer. BuffaloChickenDip007
The officers that spoke to us emphasized on multiple things of what you will see and experience as a police officer. The first officer talked a lot about his life story and how he became involved in law enforcement. Throughout his speech he kept reiterating that when police are trained they are trained to incarcerate which in his professional opinion wasn't right. When the officers attend academy that are never really given the skills of how to react in certain situations but rather taught the laws and codes to abide buy. The ultimate “goal” in these academies are to teach people how to incarcerate. The officer seemed very passionate about this topic because he saw that it was not helping build a community bond at all. Going off community policing they mentioned that community policing is not a top priority in the criminal justice systems eyes. They mentioned which shocked me was that community policing is the first to be cut from law enforcement. Which surprised me because wouldn't you want to create a strong bond between yourself and the community? They have noticed to many police officers take that incarcerated approach and become one of the most hated cops around town. The one officer can vouch for that because he did it himself for a long time until he finally realized that it helps no one. It is common to see a lot of bad policing when you first start because that is what everyone is taught. One idea in bad policing is the spoke on implicit bias. Implicit bias is what we automatically think about someone by just looking at them or hearing how they talk. They mentioned that this is one of the main causes of bad policing because many officers have stereotypes grained in their head. Making it dangerous for all around them because they could possibly escalate the situation really quickly. Even though he mentioned that you may see not so great policing it doesn't mean you shouldn't join the force. They mentioned it was the best decision they have ever made because they are making a change in there department and the community. -hollywood007
I agree that if you are seeing a horrible job of policing done and you feel like you still want to go into that field you should become the change in your career. The reason I want to join the force is so I can change it from the inside out and hopefully change how it is done and put the police force into a better light than what it has been lately with all of the shootings and racial discrimination happening throughout the country. I was taught that the best way to get the job done is to do it yourself, especially if you know what you are doing and what change you want to come out of it. One should never wait for the change to happen; they must be the one to make the change happen. CAPMARVEL007
Going to PTI I understand that it’s getting you ready for the grunt of police work and how to be a professional why you do but I also agree, that community policing should also be apart of it because its not always locking up the suspects and throwing away yes that’s a part of it but it’s kind of more like protection and serving, ”serving” meaning going out and build an relationship and partnership with the community we serve because and the end of the day when stuff like murders happen and the family want are help to solve this murder we will desperately need the community to come forward and that won’ be possible unless we are on the same team in a way -STATECHAMP007
I agree with what you were saying. Police training needs to get better and then they have to stop with their biases when doing their jobs. When he said that "your biases beliefs should not determine how you police". Then he said how you act or treat the community is how you'll get treated back. I feel that what he said right there, all police officers should live by those words. Many treat people horribly, and then you'll hear how there's a lot of police brutality happening. The police stereotypes have to stop also. Just because they don't like how someone looks, they shouldn't be able to pull them over or have someone put in jail. okurrr007
Both officers that talked to us opened my eyes to many possibilities and problems within the system. One officer talked about Proffer Systems, which is something I've never heard of. Researching A proffer system further, it makes more sense to me and how unfair it is. Overall, the criminal justice system is unfair. This is seen through when one officer has served his country for many years just to have the system turn against him and attempt to have him thrown in prison. We also talked about community policing and how its impact can help build a bond between the police force and the community. Building a bond between the community and the police force can lead to helping solve cases by witnesses trusting the police to solve cases. One of the officers made a comment stating that he thinks 90% of Juvenile crimes are committed by kids without a father in the home. He talked about if there were more fathers in the home then kids wouldn't commit crime as much because the father would be able to teach them right from wrong. Some fathers are in the home, but they don't interact in the home. That doesn't do much for the child in the home because the father may not be teaching them important lessons that could keep them out of trouble. Training is also something the officers talked about. It sounds rather difficult and the classwork sounds rather minimal which doesn't sound too bad to me. This all happens within the academy, which you have to be accepted into after passing a polygraph test. A important point that one of the officers made was that we will never arrest our ways out of problems. I feel like that is very important and true, solving the problem can’t be achieved by arresting lots of people. -Jar007
I was in the same boat as you, I too did not know what the proffer system was until they explained it. I agree that it is completely unfair. How is the person able to get immunity for his crimes for ratting on other criminals. How do we know he is tell the truth? This should be done away with or maybe have a variation of it. They could give out information to shorten their sentence or maybe get probation. To get full immunity for your crimes seems to me to be to lenient. I was also thinking the same thing about the 90 percent of crimes committed by juveniles come from a fatherless home. Like you said some of them have fathers who just don’t pay attention to them. -ClarkKent007
Yesterday in class listening to both officers talk about their careers was making me think am I really up to the challenge? Am I ready to pursue this career knowing all these things could happen to me? And the answer is still yes. While these officers were talking I picked up a few statements that I found interesting. The first one is a lot of officers have no faith in the polygraph tests. If you tell the truth about everything then they will most likely reject you and sometimes even if you tell the truth it wont indicate that it is the truth. I also heard that 99% of training is learning incarceration. That is important but learning more than just incarceration is very important especially in this day and age. Unless they rewrote the Constitution the system will never be fair.. that stood out to me because that is totally unfair and cruel knowing that the system will never be fair to certain people. Knowing that Community policing is the first to be cut from departments is sad because community policing is important especially in certain neighborhoods, kids need someone they can talk to and they can come to. Community policing is another way to grow a relationship with the community and the people that live there. Another statement one officer made is that he believes that 90% of juvenile offenses take place because there is not a father at home, this stood out to me because I also did not have a father growing up and I know what damage it causes to some kids. Nobody is born bad, it is taught but mostly in single parent homes one officer explained which I agree with to a certain extent. I also learned from the other officer that its very minimum training its mostly sitting and listening and not hands on activities. All of these things stuck out the most to me and I hope to hear from these officers again in the near future. -freckles007
I also thought it was interesting that police officers don't believe in the polygraph tests. They’re very inaccurate. I also think it’s sad that the system will never be fair to anyone. You wanna make everyone happy but this more likely will not happen. I also thought it was interesting how they plan on cutting community policing. That helps the officers stay connected with the community. If you cut that, they don't stay stay connected with the community. Nobody is born bad, I agree with this. Kids sometimes don't have parents to look up to or to teach them things. -Soccer31007
I also thought it was intriguing that officers don't put much faith behind the polygraph test. I also agree that the statistic of 90% of juvenile crimes are the result of a fatherless home. I know a couple kids going through that right now and its rough knowing what they are going through. I would also really hope we see these officers come back in the future. -CUBSFAN007
On Monday we had to great speakers come in an talk to us. They help further my understanding of the field of being a police officer and further my want to be an police officer. They told many interesting experiences that they had. In the police academy it is 99 percent is about incarceration. This doesn’t surprise me because we incarcerate people for minor offense. One thing that caught me off guard was that if police officers knew how to police the commitment report would be 5 or 6 pages long. I also learned what the proffer system was, this gives for example a drug dealer immunity to rat on other people that he has sold drugs to or other crimes. Another interesting thing that they said is that the criminal justice system can never be fair. That is surprising but not as surprising as the community policing field is the first to be cut. To me you would want to have a good community to police relationship. 90 percent of all crimes committed by juveniles can be contributed to a fatherless home. I can understand that because you look up to your father as a role model but that number is still surprising. One statement that I totally agree with is that no one should go to jail while driving on a suspended licenses. They did not hurt anyone, now if they did yeah send them to jail. What is pretty cool is that as a civilian you can get up to 2 ride alongs a year, they have to be 6 months apart though. Another interesting fact is that he academy is 80 percent class work. I would have thought it to be an even split between field work and class work. One of the last interesting things that pointed out is that policing is a teachable skill. And the last thing that I thought was very interesting is that you will never arrest your way out of a problem. ClarkKent007
I agree with you when you say that you will never arrest your way out of a problem. I believe that this is some police officers’ mind sets. They believe that the more arrests they make, the less problems they will have, and the problems will eventually go away. However, this is not the case. Sure, a few arrests might solve a couple problems. But, problems are always going to be around, and if there is a way to solve all of the problems, arresting as many people as possible is more than likely not the way to go about this. -Fozz007
On Monday, we had a couple of great influences in the Criminal Justice field come to class and speak about what they have dealt with in their careers and training as officers. One thing from the discussion that I found interesting is that in the police academy 99 percent of the training is solely about incarceration. This is something that I was not expecting, but also something that does make sense; especially with the way that the system is run today. I also learned what the proffer system was; this was something that I was surprised to not have already known about seeing as I want to work in federal law enforcement. It is a system that I found to be unfair as the Grand Jury is taking a criminal on their word, all in exchange for a shorter sentence. This is something that I believe should be reformed in the system. Another interesting thing that they said is that the criminal justice system can never be fair. That is something that I have known for a while, but it still hurts when it is said aloud. One thing that I was conflicted in is the “fact” that was thrown out in the talk. “90 percent of all juveniles who commit crimes come from fatherless homes.” This was a statement that I did not agree with in the discussion. I can understand that in a city landscape, but there is more likely something else that is a larger cause in that delinquency. I do come from a home with a dad who is in the family, but I am still just as likely to commit a crime. I know that the officer said that it was based on his own experience, but that does not mean that it is a universal with crime. One statement that I agreed with partially is that no one should go to jail on a suspended license. The reason that I only partially agree with the statement is because there are several way to get your license suspended ranging from driving without insurance to reckless homicide. If someone had commit reckless homicide, I personally would not want them driving next to me on the road. If they were not supposed to be driving because they did not have insurance, that is different. CAPMARVEL007
Hi, I would like to know, how are you going to use what was said by the officers? Because, there was a lot of surprising things that were discussed. Why do you feel that there is mistrust between the cops and the public? The criminal justice system did not breakdown on its own. People shout reform for the system, yet when it is time to put in work, to change things, everything falls on deaf ears. Everything costs time and money. Keep in mind that for actual reform to occur, those in the public should have a voice, such as community policing.---YouMustAcquit007---
I thought it was interesting when one of the officers was talking about how white males have it harder in law enforcement. I agree with that because of the race problem that’s happening. I found it interesting how one of the officers said that he should not be the police right now because of their past and I found that interesting because when people see young people commiting crimes, they automatically think that they won't succeed in anything and that’s not true. Anyone can turn their life around. A lot of officers have turned their lives around since they were younger. I found it interesting when they said that ninety ninety percent of training is incarceration. I thought the proffer system was interesting and it’s basically protection against prosecution. When the officer was explaining it, they referred to it as unfair because you can lie. I thought community policing was interesting. It’s basically making a connection with the community and being involved. I thought it was interesting when they said that ninety percent of crimes are committed by people who come from fatherless homes. That’s sad because they don't really have a role model or someone to look up to and show them right and wrong. I thought it was interesting when they were talking about bias and it can affect your job. Letting personal bias get in the way can start causing unfairness. I thought it was interesting when an officer said they have never hit anyone or fought anyone in ten years and that’s showing that they don't use unnecessary excessive force. I thought it was interesting when the officer was explaining how new officers just want to be accepted. I feel like being a new officer can be hard. I thought it was interesting when an officer said that they wish policing could be done a different way, a way that can be more fair. I also agree that there should be more fairness in the system and maybe years down the road it will be. -Soccer31007
I truly thought it was neat with everything they said because it did not feel like they came in there to persuade us to be a cop and advocate necessarily for the job. I loved the one officer's enthusiasm how much he enjoys his job but he was honest with everything in his life that got him to where he was. Sometimes we put the police in this different light of being people and think they are just so different from civilians and can never do wrong and he did a great job of really humanizing the badge and made some really great points doing so. -notacop007
Yesterday when the two officers spoke was, I thought, a very eye opening discussion. The first officer talked about how his life was when he was young and how that affected him in the present. He talked about the highs of his childhood to the lows of his father not having much money to his name. I found it interesting that this first officer wanted to be a cop all the way back in second grade and that his dream never changed. I liked how the first officer talked about his first few years on the job that he had so many arrests and tickets that they will never be beat. I gathered as he was talking though that something changed with him. He went from being by the books cop to being a more understanding one. That's when he started to talk about his role as community officer. I liked how he talked about how he really wanted to make relationships with the community. I found it interesting when he was talking about suspended license people shouldn’t have to go to jail because they might just be poor and don’t really need to go to jail. His stat about 90% of crimes are the result of fatherless homes was really interesting because I had never sat back and thought about it and how some of these individuals just didn’t have a complete home. The second officer provided information on the police academy that I thought was interesting. He said that it was a lot like how ICC is for our classes. I found it somewhat funny that he said it was fun, but that he would never want to do it again. Overall, I thought these officers were great speakers and provided some very interesting details into their lives. -CUBSFAN007
I thought it was crazy how he still wanted to be an officer after seeing what happen in the past. Also, how his life just kept breaking him but like he said his faith wouldn’t let him stay down. A lot of the kids that grow through this end up think they have nothing to lose like our professor mentioned in one of the chapters. I also agree with how he mentioned not everyone deserves to go to jail because of a suspended license. Everyone has struggles but are not bad people and have to do somethings to continue an everyday life. taco007
Yesterday in class when police officers were there, I learned a lot. They told me a lot of things that I didn’t know and a lot of things they said were fairly new to me. The first officer that spoke stated that he grew up in Peoria. Since he was little he wanted to be a police officer. Around ages 17-21 he stated that that’s when he realized he really wanted to become one and started the process. He also stated that he went to Atlanta for two years to police then came back to Peoria. Both officers stated that the police academy is all about incarceration which is a very interesting point because I would’ve never thought that. I’ve heard things about the police academy before but not that. The second officer that was there was telling us all about the academy and the good & bad things about it. He stated that he wouldn’t want to do it again for several reasons. One of the officers explained how the criminal justice system isn’t fair, never have been fair, and never will be fair which is interesting but sad. One of the officers stated that he is in community policing right now and been in that position for 7 years now and he’s about to retire. Also he stated that 90% of crime is because of fatherless homes and not having someone to tell you right from wrong. He stated that being a police officer is all about staying close to your community and making a change. One last thing he stated and something I learned was that the hardest part about being a police officer is being accepted. -SR
Yesterday when the juvenile detective came in class I learned about where the officer grew up to what he does now. He told us about how he grew up on the south end and how his father went through some situations. That gave me the thought basically saying you can not use " I grew up in so and so" as a reason to why you can't succeed in life. The police officer also mentioned how as a police officer you should learn how to read people. When a police officer pulls someone over, the persons attitude determines how the officer will respond to you. If you allow the officer to do his job and remain calm, everything will be fine. If you act aggressive towards the police officer, that's when things may turn left. I'm not sure if this is how you spell it but the police officer also talked about prophers. That is basically when someone can use something and testify against you. He told us how people who were indeed guilty for crimes ended up testifying against him. Even though he did nothing wrong and was just doing his job. The detective told us that how you act and treat others in the community is how people will treat you. Some statistics that he gave us was how 90% of all crimes is due to fathers not being in the homes of juveniles. Also, a police could pull you over based on how you look. Something else that he said was "your biases beliefs should not determine on how you police". That quote stood out to me, I was pulled over because I didn't have a headlight on the officer gave me a hard time. If you would like to do a ride along, you can do 2 rides, but in a six month period. I agreed with the detective when he said we need better training a lot of the arrests and incarcerations are due to what the officer is feeling. They may let you off the hook some may not. This quote also got me "Never arrest your way to change things".okurrr007
I agree with you that the "I grew up in so and so" line can not be used as a excuse to why people can not better their lives and get out of their struggle. No matter the situation of where you came from or grew up at, it is up to them to change their life style around. If they really want their life to change, they need to get up and actually do something about it. There are plenty of people that will help them get their lives together believe it or not. There is always is always improvement you can make in your life. -pieface007
I always knew growing up around law enforcement officers and living a daily life dealing with them, that the criminal justice system truly is not fair but I did not realize how many officers see it as unfair and are as honest as they are regarding their opinions on it. The system is not even fair to the officers and they may not agree with all the laws and what happens behind the scenes but they still enforce them. I did not realize how the training in the academy really is not community oriented, that they touch lightly on it and then continue on with other topics. I think it is just that policing is so different in 2018 and there is a lot of people in this cruel world that strongly dislike law enforcement so it is seen more as a burden to try and community police when very little people may want to be involved in the community in regards to that. I knew biases were present in law enforcement only because it goes city to city. There are assumptions made by officers because maybe a situation they dealt with before seems like the same they are about to deal with again and they assume. It is not necessarily stereotypical or racist but they just assume it will be similar. You never really think of how arresting someone will affect a generation but it does. The officers made me think about that one, how you pull someone over, arrest them for a drug offense and let's say it is minor and they are incarcerated for that, that will now affect their children as well and their kids. I also figured that at the police academy it was a lot of physical and hands on work rather than classrooms but one of the officers said it is a lot of classroom work. One of the officers said that 90% of the juveniles they deal with come from fatherless homes. I thought that was extremely interesting. The officer told us that there will be a time in our career where someone may use excessive force and we are faced with how we should react. I personally do not know what I would do cause it is something I have never thought about. He said it is a matter of being able to fit in is how a lot of the officers see it. They made the point of the us against them" mentality as well that officers develop and it is true. We as civilians cannot be really upset about that because we do not know what these officers see on a daily basis and the burdens they carry on and off duty and with the media being how it is today, it is a scary world. I have never heard of the profer system either and while I think it is interesting I think it is an extremely strange way of the courts to be able to do. The officers said it takes a different type of person to do this job, especially the policing aspect of law enforcement and I could not agree more. I am glad they admit to that. I think it is sad how he said it is not always the "brotherhood" part and there are a lot of issues with that and it is not always a blue family but that many just see it as a job. I am saddened by that but also not surprised in the slightest and I wish it was more of a family knot way of life. -notacop007
The speaker we had gave us a lot of information we could have learned. The two main keys in law enforcement is incarceration and reading people. Knowing how to correctly read someone is a skill and being able to do it can make things a a lot easier on the job because then you will be bale to get an idea on how the suspect will react.From him telling us stories about his childhood and how he got to where he is now , was inspirational. He was an perfect example of things we talked about in class such as him coming from a nice household then his whole life going down hill because his father had lost his job. He then started to act up in class because of the issues he was having at home. This shows that the issues that delinquents have going on in their lives can cause them to act out. He also stated that his family could not get any financial help because his father's last income was too high. I can relate to this issue because my mother has a middle class income and we do not get any financial aid, link, etc. After all this he was still able to succeed and eventually work his dream job. Showing not to let anything stop you from accomplishing your goals. He said that 90% of all delinquent crimes committed were from those that came from fatherless homes. I agree that if fathers were more involved in their child's life and enforcing things, there would be less delinquent crimes committed. He also made me realize that everyone is bias about some things and we can't let it take over us. I did learn about the Proffer system, which is federal prosecutors telling those under investigation that they will keep them protected if they give them information. -pieface007
As I heard the officers speak about juvenile delinquency, their lives and how they got to where they are at, I thought to myself no matter how hard life was at one point they still made the decision to turn their life around. I think that was a great example from what we’ve been talking about these last couple of chapters. They also mentioned how juveniles make mistakes and a lot of that is because they don’t have fathers. I think that is very true because a lot of the criminal behavior in children start at home. A home without a father nor mother is very difficult especially if one is working to provide or just do not have time to teach their kids to be respectful and have good morals. The officer mentioned “ that if fathers were fathers we would not need police officers.” One other thing that caught my attention was bias and how they affect the way policing is done. Everyone has different bias and most officers let that affect them. I think also because society thinks one way a lot of the white male officers get in trouble. Also, how the system is broken and unfair, not only to civilians but to officers as well. Which that leads to a lot of people being incarcerated that shouldn't be. The lack of community policing is what gets the public to hate officers even more and that defeats the purpose of the “serve” part of being an officer. They have the protect part down perfectly but working with the community is the main key. It was mentioned that if there were more officers out helping the public and making relationships, that would help people be more freely to let them know any information they have. They are great examples to a new way of policing. taco007
After the juvenile detectives talked to the class, I learned quite a few new things. The first thing I learned is that 99% of police training is based around incarceration. This is crazy to think about, the fact that police (the people who we think of as mainly helping the community) are trained primarily to imprison people. The second thing I learned is that the criminal justice system is never fair. I found this interesting because despite bringing people to justice, it might not always be fair for everyone involved. The third thing I learned is that community training should be the main focus. Like I said earlier, the training is based all around incarceration, when it should be based around community so police can have a better relationship with the community, as well as a good response to things occurring in the community. The fourth thing I learned is 90% of all crimes committed are due to fatherless homes. This is a very true statement, as without a father or even a father-figure present in a home, children have no one to look up to and help guide them towards the right path in their lives. The fifth thing I learned is everyone has their own biases that can be recognized and changed, including police officers. Once you discover the specific biases you have towards certain things, you are then able to change them to see them as they truly are, rather than judge them solely off of your previous bias. The sixth thing I learned is people should only go to jail for disrespect, not for no real apparent reason. If someone attacks another person, steals from them, and runs away, they should be incarcerated, as they broke the law and showed major disrespect to that other person. The seventh thing I learned is 1 arrest can hurt a family/people for generations. If a father is arrested, his family may never recover from this loss and therefore, the future generations may still feel the effects of the arrest that happened generations ago. The eight thing I learned is excessive force will be seen at some point during a career in law enforcement. Excessive force will be used, whether necessary or not necessary, and people have to be ready to get involved and either deal with this or try and avoid it. The ninth thing I learned is the Proffer System. This system makes a person admitting to crimes immune, but, if any other names are mentioned, the person whose name was mentioned will be arrested and do the time for the crime that they had previously committed. The tenth thing I learned is that police cannot arrest their ways out of problems. Despite the number of arrests made, problems are still going to occur, and this is not the correct way to go about solving our problems. -Fozz007
I also thought it was crazy that the police academy does not focus much of their attention on community policing. I also agree that one of the best points on of the officers mad was that we need to change our training to better reflect community policing rather than training on the art of incarceration. I also never knew that the proffer system was as easy as people talking to the federal government and then if they think it is credible the FBI will open an investigation on you just because of a tip that was given that is crazy to think that is all the might need to bring up charges. -RHB007
I really enjoyed having the officers come into speak with us yesterday because they have a lot of current information about what is going on as we speak in the law enforcement community around us. For privacy purposes in mind I will call them by Officer one and officer two. Officer one talked quite a bit about his past and how he became a police officer. Throughout his speech he made it a point to highlight that we put way to much emphasis on incarcerating people in police officer training and Academy. He says we should be putting more of the time and effort into teaching law enforcement how to community police and how to communicate with individuals that live in the community they police. One quote that really stood with me was “ we are never going to arrest our way out of any problems we have in the community.” The reason that particular quote really stuck with me was because we have talked in other classes about the absurd amount of people that we are locking up for crimes that don’t hurt anyone else and for crimes that aren’t even illegal in all states. It is one thing to here in the news about our prison overcrowding and it is another thing to hear it from someone who has been a police officer for years now and is close to retirement. Especially when that officer even goes as far as saying he things the whole police academy’s philosophy on how we police needs to change from the mentality of incarnation to community policing. I also was able to move around a lot from Officer number two about how to get involved with local law enforcement. He mentioned a lot about what the police academy was like and he also gave information about how to do ride alongs. I think that was also important to hear because this is a profession many of us are looking to go into and it is good to have someone who has just gone through these things to let you know what to expect. -RHB007
In class today there was two officers that spoke to the class, one that has been serving for a while and another that had just graduated and is on his way to becoming a policer officer. The most interesting thing I learned from them was the proffer system. This is where police will use someone who is being convicted of a crime to find out more information on crimes, usually lessening the sentence of the individual telling them. He also said that this was the one of the reasons that the criminal justice system is unfair. I agree that this is unfair, because it’s basically his word against mine if I got snitched on, and there isn’t any evidence needed for them to have reason to come after me. The first officer said that if cops got better at policing, there would be a lot less police brutality. He said that the reason officers get in these fighting situations repeatedly is because they don’t know how to police. They also talked about how police academies focus on incarceration rather than community policing, at a 99% to 1% ratio. One officer said that we need to focus on community policing more because that will help their relationship with the community. He said that he used to ticket a lot more, breaking records in his time as traffic police, but now he focuses on community policing because it does more good than bad. The first officer also noted that from his experience, about 90% of the people committing crimes don’t have a father in their household. He thinks that if we focus more on fatherless households we can ultimately reduce the crime rate. They are already doing this by going to schools and talking to the troublemakers, who he said are almost all in fatherless homes. One of the last things they told us was to download the app called Rave Guardian. This app is an alert system that is used by many places including campuses, perfect for if there’s an active shooter -BuffaloChickenDip007
I agree, I also talked about the fact that the system was unfair. I also agree with the statement that you made about how it is your word against the officers and how you could get in trouble without the officer even having evidence to prove that you are guilty of a certain charge. I also spoke about how 90% of people who commit crimes are fatherless or do not have but only one parent in the family to teach them what is right and wrong. -KiiNG007
In class yesterday, we had two cops come and talk to our class. It was informative, and helpful. I was not surprised to hear one of the officers say that they have no faith in polygraphs. Polygraphs are b.s. they are not exact, nor entirely accurate. Another interesting thing that was said, was that 99% of police training is incarceration. Meaning that cadets, are taught to arrest, arrest, arrest. Which is completely counterproductive. Therefore it is no surprise when one of the officers said that. there is no community policing training at the academy. Even worse, is that community policing always gets cut from budgets, why? Because people do not want money spent on community policing. No wonder there is such mistrust and disconnect between the police, and the public. That mistrust, is caused by the use of Proffer, which is straight up hearsay, in which people who get in trouble with the feds. When they want to deal, they say anything and everything to take other people down with them. This is turn, is reflected n the officer's belief that the criminal justice system is broken beyond repair. Which it is, because the criminal justice system is not fair, nor equal. Especially the juvenile justice system, because 90% of all crimes that juveniles commit, is due to being in fatherless homes. That says a lot, because the kid is suffering without a father. More and more these days, the officer said that cops are becoming social workers. This is due to dysfunction in the criminal justice system. One of the officers said that when you are a cop, you affect not just the offender but their family as well. Anytine anyone sees someone in their family in handcuffs, that image sticks with them. Lastly, one of the officers said, that white male cops have it the hardest in Law Enforcement. I can see why, because a lot of white officers have been involved in incidents with non-whites. All in all it was great to hear what both officers had to say. --YouMustAcquit007---
The juvenile officers spoke about their lives. One of them has mentioned that he has been in the police force for 20 years now and he still believes part of it is unfair. He has learned a lot from work. When he was younger he mentioned that he went rock bottom before he went back up. He gave his life to God and he has never went back down in life again. He mentioned how you can go in front of an Grand Jury ( federal ) and tell everything you have done to someone else in not get in trouble but only if its helping the officers arrest that other person. Example ( selling drugs to somebody else, you can tell the officers how much you sold and when you sold it, without you getting in trouble ). He believes that community policing is the best position to be on sometimes because you can engage with the people in the neighborhood while helping them out and you can get to know them better so that they are willing to help you out. Traffic service was the not so good position, it was boring and you couldn't really engage just passing out tickets all day long. He wanted to change what he had to do to something he actually enjoyed so he went on to the community policing. The juvenile officer also believed that a lot of the people that committed crime or that grew up around it , are the people that grew up without father in their life. He thought that their behavior was impacted from the life and homes they lived in. He mentioned that he also thought everyone who wears their pants " sagging " didn't have a father in their life. Most of the people he saw/ seen on the daily commitment report for driving on suspended license were poor people, because they can not afford to pay their tickets. Some things he stated i agree too but not all of them. LLTS78007
Today's class period was no ordinary session. Two officers came in and spoke to the whole class about what there was to look forward to in the criminal justice field. Not only that, but they talked about their personal experiences and the likelihood of certain situations taking place. One of the officers that spoke had been working in the field for multiple years and had many stories to tell to the class. The other officer was not as experienced and had just graduated and became an officer. They both shared very knowledgeable information. One of the first things that the officer with more experience in the field spoke about was the fact that many police do not do their jobs completely correct. Some hold racial grudges and so on. One thing that he said he was extremely good at was reading people. He said knowing how to read people in this line of work was crucial and was needed to be successful at doing your job the right way. One thing that I found extremely interesting was the fact that they brought up time management and the impact that this career force and time away from family. The officer speaking said that in the beginning of his career he did not spend much time with his family. He spent most of his time working on the job. Another thing that he mentioned about time management was that he told us to get our heads in the books and learn the information. He told us it does take time to learn it all, but once we know it, it is stuck in our heads forever and we will not forget it. One other thing that he talked about was that the criminal justice system is not fair. I thought that it was interesting coming from an officer. For him to share his beliefs about the system and how fair it actually was, was pretty awesome. Another thing that I liked a lot about the speakers that they mentioned was that 90% of all crimes that are committed are from people who were only raised by one parent. I thought this was very interesting because it shows that the lack of parental advisement truly really does impact the outcome of how a child may behave later on in life. I never would have thought that this would have had such a large impact as it does. Another part of the speech that I liked was how he talked about going the route of being a community police officer instead of just ticketing people all the time. The officer said that writing people tickets is no fun whatsoever. He said that the reason that he personally liked going the community route was because it would help relate to the rest of the community which was a good thing. One thing that really caught my attention was when they gave the class their emails and phone numbers and told us that they wanted us to get ahold of them and ask to do ride alongs with them or other officers just to see what it is like on an average day and to see if we enjoy the experience. The newer officer who had not spent much time in the field yet mentioned some unique information about how he got started in the field. He mentioned that he did not get to finish his classes before he was already offered a job, so the teachers in his classes all cut the grades right where they were and passed him in his courses. He also mentioned explorer which I thought was pretty cool. At the end of the day, I learned a decent amount of information that I did not know beforehand. I am very appreciative of them spending their quality time by coming in and talking to the class and passing on information to us students. -KiiNG007
Today In class I listened in on a juvenile detective talk about why he became, and police officer and he trial and tribulations before and while on as and police officer. He started of by saying felt it was a calling from god, in some sorts I believe that god put some people on this earth with the job of protecting and serving. Being a police officer or being involved in any emergency response career is all dangerous but be a police officer the one that take being more than just humble, because in this day in age it seems like the community hate the police and that leads me into another topic the juvenile detective talked about which was are community justice system being broken beyond repair. In some way I do believe this to be true but yes, I will still love to be an police officer because you see some cases where a suspect does something horrendous, and get a lower sentence or doesn’t get the same amount of treatment where as somebody else can do another crime less horrendous than the previous one I talked about and get life or even get its life completely taking away from one.
ReplyDeleteSomething else I found interesting that is if someone goes federal they have a chance to a lower sentence and an immunity or previous crimes if they give info on another person which can lead to an indictment, now how can you do this and take a word of a criminal that would tell you anything to get time knocked off and plus you have no information to go on or leads to follow just a statement from a convicted subject trying to find a easy our for an act in which he or she committed?
Do I think that a lot of reason why female or males mainly males are out here in all this trouble because of fatherless homes? To some extent yes I do believe that because some juveniles seek attention from bad influencers because there’s no fathers at home because its just the little things like if a juvenile loves shoes but his parent can’t afford it because it’s a single parent home and she works pay check to pay check but someone comes around and buy the juvenile some shoes he’s more reluctant to find more ways or things he or she can do so he or she can get mores shoes and that one thing leads to another and then the next thing you know they 25 been in and out of jail they how teenage life and no they getting life and there life not over living wise but socially wise they life is over.
Being a police officer, you got to ask yourself this question “Are you still willing to do this job, knowing you can go to jail for doing something right?
-STATECHAMP007
I agree with everything you have wrote because I was in class when the police officer was talking. And I dont understand what I am supposed to write about. The proffer system is really bogus honestly. And the government need to stop being lazy or whatever they going thru in life and need to make new laws cause the laws they have are outdated. Time has changed fr where not in the 1st century. Smiles007
DeleteI agree with you that many juvenile offenders act due to having no guidance or father in the home. This can also be vice versa. They are stuck in a single parent home living paycheck to paycheck. Meaning that parent is probably gone most of the time living to kids to fend for themselves. Those kids are going to find ways to steal or get involved because they have no one around them to show them right from wrong. Many kids need guidance at there age but most are left to fend for themselves. That is the sad reality about today's society.
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What I learned in class from the officer and the other one that is going to be an officer. The first that I learned from the officer was that never tell the truth on a polygraphs, because their not a reliable form of technology. The second thing I learned was that the officer was a very spiritual person who believed in God. The third thing I learned that 99% of your training is incarceration, while your in the acedmeny. The fourth thing I learned that being a police officer is a job not a career. The fifth thing I learned was that the criminal justic system is not fair. The sixth thing I learned the community system is usually the first thing to be cut while being an officer. The seven thing I learned was from the police officer was that he believed 90% of crimes committed are from fatherless homes. The eight thing I learned was that being a police officer can affect generations. The ninth thing I learned was about ride along and ho you can ride with a police officer during their shift. The last thing I learned was, police academy your basically sitting in class. Smiles007
ReplyDeleteI think the point he made about the homes without fathers tend to lead to increased juvenile crimes is true. What he was saying about how the fathers need to be in the homes to allow for the kids to learn and understand what to do and what not to do. I think it is interesting that 99% of what is taught and learned in the academy is incarceration. I agree that becoming a police officer and becoming a good police officer can affect generations that you work with, you can help the elderly, tend to the middle aged, and teach or help the younger ages, all while being a role model to the citizens. -Jar007
DeleteI did hear when he said if you ever had problems then it could also carry onto your family which is very sad to me.. a mistake I could make should not determine how my family looks. I also do believe that homes without fathers would act out more than a home with two loving parents. Knowing that more than half of the material taught is incarceration which is something you need to learn but we have so many more serious topics to be taught. It is sad that community policing is the first thing cut from departments because I feel as if some communities need an officer to have a relationship with especially one with a lot of teenagers there. -freckles007
DeleteI agree with all the things you said about the officers. I agree with the officer when he said the polygraphs are not a reliable form of technology. Which is very interesting to me because I’ve heard people talk about polygraphs before but not in depth as he did. I think the point he made being a police officer isn’t a job it’s a career because he said it’s like giving back to the community and being close with the community because your always engaging with the community. It’s about serving and protecting the community. -SR
DeleteI agree that this officer has a strong faith in Jesus, so it doesn't supprise me that he has used this to an advantage in the field. I believe that everything happens for a reason, so if you really want to be a cop God will protect you, or something will happen for a reason. I almost forgot about the ride alongs, and how I can do that. It will really give me experience and will look good on a resume when I apply to be a police officer. Many of the views and mindsets that the police officer talked about can really be used when I become a police officer. BuffaloChickenDip007
DeleteThe officers that spoke to us emphasized on multiple things of what you will see and experience as a police officer. The first officer talked a lot about his life story and how he became involved in law enforcement. Throughout his speech he kept reiterating that when police are trained they are trained to incarcerate which in his professional opinion wasn't right. When the officers attend academy that are never really given the skills of how to react in certain situations but rather taught the laws and codes to abide buy. The ultimate “goal” in these academies are to teach people how to incarcerate. The officer seemed very passionate about this topic because he saw that it was not helping build a community bond at all. Going off community policing they mentioned that community policing is not a top priority in the criminal justice systems eyes. They mentioned which shocked me was that community policing is the first to be cut from law enforcement. Which surprised me because wouldn't you want to create a strong bond between yourself and the community? They have noticed to many police officers take that incarcerated approach and become one of the most hated cops around town. The one officer can vouch for that because he did it himself for a long time until he finally realized that it helps no one. It is common to see a lot of bad policing when you first start because that is what everyone is taught. One idea in bad policing is the spoke on implicit bias. Implicit bias is what we automatically think about someone by just looking at them or hearing how they talk. They mentioned that this is one of the main causes of bad policing because many officers have stereotypes grained in their head. Making it dangerous for all around them because they could possibly escalate the situation really quickly. Even though he mentioned that you may see not so great policing it doesn't mean you shouldn't join the force. They mentioned it was the best decision they have ever made because they are making a change in there department and the community.
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I agree that if you are seeing a horrible job of policing done and you feel like you still want to go into that field you should become the change in your career. The reason I want to join the force is so I can change it from the inside out and hopefully change how it is done and put the police force into a better light than what it has been lately with all of the shootings and racial discrimination happening throughout the country. I was taught that the best way to get the job done is to do it yourself, especially if you know what you are doing and what change you want to come out of it. One should never wait for the change to happen; they must be the one to make the change happen. CAPMARVEL007
DeleteGoing to PTI I understand that it’s getting you ready for the grunt of police work and how to be a professional why you do but I also agree, that community policing should also be apart of it because its not always locking up the suspects and throwing away yes that’s a part of it but it’s kind of more like protection and serving, ”serving” meaning going out and build an relationship and partnership with the community we serve because and the end of the day when stuff like murders happen and the family want are help to solve this murder we will desperately need the community to come forward and that won’ be possible unless we are on the same team in a way
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I agree with what you were saying. Police training needs to get better and then they have to stop with their biases when doing their jobs. When he said that "your biases beliefs should not determine how you police". Then he said how you act or treat the community is how you'll get treated back. I feel that what he said right there, all police officers should live by those words. Many treat people horribly, and then you'll hear how there's a lot of police brutality happening. The police stereotypes have to stop also. Just because they don't like how someone looks, they shouldn't be able to pull them over or have someone put in jail. okurrr007
DeleteBoth officers that talked to us opened my eyes to many possibilities and problems within the system. One officer talked about Proffer Systems, which is something I've never heard of. Researching A proffer system further, it makes more sense to me and how unfair it is. Overall, the criminal justice system is unfair. This is seen through when one officer has served his country for many years just to have the system turn against him and attempt to have him thrown in prison. We also talked about community policing and how its impact can help build a bond between the police force and the community. Building a bond between the community and the police force can lead to helping solve cases by witnesses trusting the police to solve cases. One of the officers made a comment stating that he thinks 90% of Juvenile crimes are committed by kids without a father in the home. He talked about if there were more fathers in the home then kids wouldn't commit crime as much because the father would be able to teach them right from wrong. Some fathers are in the home, but they don't interact in the home. That doesn't do much for the child in the home because the father may not be teaching them important lessons that could keep them out of trouble. Training is also something the officers talked about. It sounds rather difficult and the classwork sounds rather minimal which doesn't sound too bad to me. This all happens within the academy, which you have to be accepted into after passing a polygraph test. A important point that one of the officers made was that we will never arrest our ways out of problems. I feel like that is very important and true, solving the problem can’t be achieved by arresting lots of people. -Jar007
ReplyDeleteI was in the same boat as you, I too did not know what the proffer system was until they explained it. I agree that it is completely unfair. How is the person able to get immunity for his crimes for ratting on other criminals. How do we know he is tell the truth? This should be done away with or maybe have a variation of it. They could give out information to shorten their sentence or maybe get probation. To get full immunity for your crimes seems to me to be to lenient. I was also thinking the same thing about the 90 percent of crimes committed by juveniles come from a fatherless home. Like you said some of them have fathers who just don’t pay attention to them. -ClarkKent007
DeleteYesterday in class listening to both officers talk about their careers was making me think am I really up to the challenge? Am I ready to pursue this career knowing all these things could happen to me? And the answer is still yes. While these officers were talking I picked up a few statements that I found interesting. The first one is a lot of officers have no faith in the polygraph tests. If you tell the truth about everything then they will most likely reject you and sometimes even if you tell the truth it wont indicate that it is the truth. I also heard that 99% of training is learning incarceration. That is important but learning more than just incarceration is very important especially in this day and age. Unless they rewrote the Constitution the system will never be fair.. that stood out to me because that is totally unfair and cruel knowing that the system will never be fair to certain people. Knowing that Community policing is the first to be cut from departments is sad because community policing is important especially in certain neighborhoods, kids need someone they can talk to and they can come to. Community policing is another way to grow a relationship with the community and the people that live there. Another statement one officer made is that he believes that 90% of juvenile offenses take place because there is not a father at home, this stood out to me because I also did not have a father growing up and I know what damage it causes to some kids. Nobody is born bad, it is taught but mostly in single parent homes one officer explained which I agree with to a certain extent. I also learned from the other officer that its very minimum training its mostly sitting and listening and not hands on activities. All of these things stuck out the most to me and I hope to hear from these officers again in the near future. -freckles007
ReplyDeleteI also thought it was interesting that police officers don't believe in the polygraph tests. They’re very inaccurate. I also think it’s sad that the system will never be fair to anyone. You wanna make everyone happy but this more likely will not happen. I also thought it was interesting how they plan on cutting community policing. That helps the officers stay connected with the community. If you cut that, they don't stay stay connected with the community. Nobody is born bad, I agree with this. Kids sometimes don't have parents to look up to or to teach them things. -Soccer31007
DeleteI also thought it was intriguing that officers don't put much faith behind the polygraph test. I also agree that the statistic of 90% of juvenile crimes are the result of a fatherless home. I know a couple kids going through that right now and its rough knowing what they are going through. I would also really hope we see these officers come back in the future. -CUBSFAN007
DeleteOn Monday we had to great speakers come in an talk to us. They help further my understanding of the field of being a police officer and further my want to be an police officer. They told many interesting experiences that they had. In the police academy it is 99 percent is about incarceration. This doesn’t surprise me because we incarcerate people for minor offense. One thing that caught me off guard was that if police officers knew how to police the commitment report would be 5 or 6 pages long. I also learned what the proffer system was, this gives for example a drug dealer immunity to rat on other people that he has sold drugs to or other crimes. Another interesting thing that they said is that the criminal justice system can never be fair. That is surprising but not as surprising as the community policing field is the first to be cut. To me you would want to have a good community to police relationship. 90 percent of all crimes committed by juveniles can be contributed to a fatherless home. I can understand that because you look up to your father as a role model but that number is still surprising. One statement that I totally agree with is that no one should go to jail while driving on a suspended licenses. They did not hurt anyone, now if they did yeah send them to jail. What is pretty cool is that as a civilian you can get up to 2 ride alongs a year, they have to be 6 months apart though. Another interesting fact is that he academy is 80 percent class work. I would have thought it to be an even split between field work and class work. One of the last interesting things that pointed out is that policing is a teachable skill. And the last thing that I thought was very interesting is that you will never arrest your way out of a problem. ClarkKent007
ReplyDeleteI agree with you when you say that you will never arrest your way out of a problem. I believe that this is some police officers’ mind sets. They believe that the more arrests they make, the less problems they will have, and the problems will eventually go away. However, this is not the case. Sure, a few arrests might solve a couple problems. But, problems are always going to be around, and if there is a way to solve all of the problems, arresting as many people as possible is more than likely not the way to go about this.
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On Monday, we had a couple of great influences in the Criminal Justice field come to class and speak about what they have dealt with in their careers and training as officers. One thing from the discussion that I found interesting is that in the police academy 99 percent of the training is solely about incarceration. This is something that I was not expecting, but also something that does make sense; especially with the way that the system is run today. I also learned what the proffer system was; this was something that I was surprised to not have already known about seeing as I want to work in federal law enforcement. It is a system that I found to be unfair as the Grand Jury is taking a criminal on their word, all in exchange for a shorter sentence. This is something that I believe should be reformed in the system. Another interesting thing that they said is that the criminal justice system can never be fair. That is something that I have known for a while, but it still hurts when it is said aloud. One thing that I was conflicted in is the “fact” that was thrown out in the talk. “90 percent of all juveniles who commit crimes come from fatherless homes.” This was a statement that I did not agree with in the discussion. I can understand that in a city landscape, but there is more likely something else that is a larger cause in that delinquency. I do come from a home with a dad who is in the family, but I am still just as likely to commit a crime. I know that the officer said that it was based on his own experience, but that does not mean that it is a universal with crime. One statement that I agreed with partially is that no one should go to jail on a suspended license. The reason that I only partially agree with the statement is because there are several way to get your license suspended ranging from driving without insurance to reckless homicide. If someone had commit reckless homicide, I personally would not want them driving next to me on the road. If they were not supposed to be driving because they did not have insurance, that is different. CAPMARVEL007
ReplyDeleteHi, I would like to know, how are you going to use what was said by the officers? Because, there was a lot of surprising things that were discussed. Why do you feel that there is mistrust between the cops and the public? The criminal justice system did not breakdown on its own. People shout reform for the system, yet when it is time to put in work, to change things, everything falls on deaf ears. Everything costs time and money. Keep in mind that for actual reform to occur, those in the public should have a voice, such as community policing.---YouMustAcquit007---
DeleteI thought it was interesting when one of the officers was talking about how white males have it harder in law enforcement. I agree with that because of the race problem that’s happening. I found it interesting how one of the officers said that he should not be the police right now because of their past and I found that interesting because when people see young people commiting crimes, they automatically think that they won't succeed in anything and that’s not true. Anyone can turn their life around. A lot of officers have turned their lives around since they were younger. I found it interesting when they said that ninety ninety percent of training is incarceration. I thought the proffer system was interesting and it’s basically protection against prosecution. When the officer was explaining it, they referred to it as unfair because you can lie. I thought community policing was interesting. It’s basically making a connection with the community and being involved. I thought it was interesting when they said that ninety percent of crimes are committed by people who come from fatherless homes. That’s sad because they don't really have a role model or someone to look up to and show them right and wrong. I thought it was interesting when they were talking about bias and it can affect your job. Letting personal bias get in the way can start causing unfairness. I thought it was interesting when an officer said they have never hit anyone or fought anyone in ten years and that’s showing that they don't use unnecessary excessive force. I thought it was interesting when the officer was explaining how new officers just want to be accepted. I feel like being a new officer can be hard. I thought it was interesting when an officer said that they wish policing could be done a different way, a way that can be more fair. I also agree that there should be more fairness in the system and maybe years down the road it will be. -Soccer31007
ReplyDeleteI truly thought it was neat with everything they said because it did not feel like they came in there to persuade us to be a cop and advocate necessarily for the job. I loved the one officer's enthusiasm how much he enjoys his job but he was honest with everything in his life that got him to where he was. Sometimes we put the police in this different light of being people and think they are just so different from civilians and can never do wrong and he did a great job of really humanizing the badge and made some really great points doing so. -notacop007
DeleteYesterday when the two officers spoke was, I thought, a very eye opening discussion. The first officer talked about how his life was when he was young and how that affected him in the present. He talked about the highs of his childhood to the lows of his father not having much money to his name. I found it interesting that this first officer wanted to be a cop all the way back in second grade and that his dream never changed. I liked how the first officer talked about his first few years on the job that he had so many arrests and tickets that they will never be beat. I gathered as he was talking though that something changed with him. He went from being by the books cop to being a more understanding one. That's when he started to talk about his role as community officer. I liked how he talked about how he really wanted to make relationships with the community. I found it interesting when he was talking about suspended license people shouldn’t have to go to jail because they might just be poor and don’t really need to go to jail. His stat about 90% of crimes are the result of fatherless homes was really interesting because I had never sat back and thought about it and how some of these individuals just didn’t have a complete home. The second officer provided information on the police academy that I thought was interesting. He said that it was a lot like how ICC is for our classes. I found it somewhat funny that he said it was fun, but that he would never want to do it again. Overall, I thought these officers were great speakers and provided some very interesting details into their lives. -CUBSFAN007
ReplyDeleteI thought it was crazy how he still wanted to be an officer after seeing what happen in the past. Also, how his life just kept breaking him but like he said his faith wouldn’t let him stay down. A lot of the kids that grow through this end up think they have nothing to lose like our professor mentioned in one of the chapters. I also agree with how he mentioned not everyone deserves to go to jail because of a suspended license. Everyone has struggles but are not bad people and have to do somethings to continue an everyday life. taco007
DeleteYesterday in class when police officers were there, I learned a lot. They told me a lot of things that I didn’t know and a lot of things they said were fairly new to me. The first officer that spoke stated that he grew up in Peoria. Since he was little he wanted to be a police officer. Around ages 17-21 he stated that that’s when he realized he really wanted to become one and started the process. He also stated that he went to Atlanta for two years to police then came back to Peoria. Both officers stated that the police academy is all about incarceration which is a very interesting point because I would’ve never thought that. I’ve heard things about the police academy before but not that. The second officer that was there was telling us all about the academy and the good & bad things about it. He stated that he wouldn’t want to do it again for several reasons. One of the officers explained how the criminal justice system isn’t fair, never have been fair, and never will be fair which is interesting but sad. One of the officers stated that he is in community policing right now and been in that position for 7 years now and he’s about to retire. Also he stated that 90% of crime is because of fatherless homes and not having someone to tell you right from wrong. He stated that being a police officer is all about staying close to your community and making a change. One last thing he stated and something I learned was that the hardest part about being a police officer is being accepted. -SR
ReplyDeleteYesterday when the juvenile detective came in class I learned about where the officer grew up to what he does now. He told us about how he grew up on the south end and how his father went through some situations. That gave me the thought basically saying you can not use " I grew up in so and so" as a reason to why you can't succeed in life. The police officer also mentioned how as a police officer you should learn how to read people. When a police officer pulls someone over, the persons attitude determines how the officer will respond to you. If you allow the officer to do his job and remain calm, everything will be fine. If you act aggressive towards the police officer, that's when things may turn left. I'm not sure if this is how you spell it but the police officer also talked about prophers. That is basically when someone can use something and testify against you. He told us how people who were indeed guilty for crimes ended up testifying against him. Even though he did nothing wrong and was just doing his job. The detective told us that how you act and treat others in the community is how people will treat you. Some statistics that he gave us was how 90% of all crimes is due to fathers not being in the homes of juveniles. Also, a police could pull you over based on how you look. Something else that he said was "your biases beliefs should not determine on how you police". That quote stood out to me, I was pulled over because I didn't have a headlight on the officer gave me a hard time. If you would like to do a ride along, you can do 2 rides, but in a six month period. I agreed with the detective when he said we need better training a lot of the arrests and incarcerations are due to what the officer is feeling. They may let you off the hook some may not. This quote also got me "Never arrest your way to change things".okurrr007
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that the "I grew up in so and so" line can not be used as a excuse to why people can not better their lives and get out of their struggle. No matter the situation of where you came from or grew up at, it is up to them to change their life style around. If they really want their life to change, they need to get up and actually do something about it. There are plenty of people that will help them get their lives together believe it or not. There is always is always improvement you can make in your life. -pieface007
DeleteI always knew growing up around law enforcement officers and living a daily life dealing with them, that the criminal justice system truly is not fair but I did not realize how many officers see it as unfair and are as honest as they are regarding their opinions on it. The system is not even fair to the officers and they may not agree with all the laws and what happens behind the scenes but they still enforce them. I did not realize how the training in the academy really is not community oriented, that they touch lightly on it and then continue on with other topics. I think it is just that policing is so different in 2018 and there is a lot of people in this cruel world that strongly dislike law enforcement so it is seen more as a burden to try and community police when very little people may want to be involved in the community in regards to that. I knew biases were present in law enforcement only because it goes city to city. There are assumptions made by officers because maybe a situation they dealt with before seems like the same they are about to deal with again and they assume. It is not necessarily stereotypical or racist but they just assume it will be similar. You never really think of how arresting someone will affect a generation but it does. The officers made me think about that one, how you pull someone over, arrest them for a drug offense and let's say it is minor and they are incarcerated for that, that will now affect their children as well and their kids. I also figured that at the police academy it was a lot of physical and hands on work rather than classrooms but one of the officers said it is a lot of classroom work. One of the officers said that 90% of the juveniles they deal with come from fatherless homes. I thought that was extremely interesting. The officer told us that there will be a time in our career where someone may use excessive force and we are faced with how we should react. I personally do not know what I would do cause it is something I have never thought about. He said it is a matter of being able to fit in is how a lot of the officers see it. They made the point of the us against them" mentality as well that officers develop and it is true. We as civilians cannot be really upset about that because we do not know what these officers see on a daily basis and the burdens they carry on and off duty and with the media being how it is today, it is a scary world. I have never heard of the profer system either and while I think it is interesting I think it is an extremely strange way of the courts to be able to do. The officers said it takes a different type of person to do this job, especially the policing aspect of law enforcement and I could not agree more. I am glad they admit to that. I think it is sad how he said it is not always the "brotherhood" part and there are a lot of issues with that and it is not always a blue family but that many just see it as a job. I am saddened by that but also not surprised in the slightest and I wish it was more of a family knot way of life. -notacop007
ReplyDeleteThe speaker we had gave us a lot of information we could have learned. The two main keys in law enforcement is incarceration and reading people. Knowing how to correctly read someone is a skill and being able to do it can make things a a lot easier on the job because then you will be bale to get an idea on how the suspect will react.From him telling us stories about his childhood and how he got to where he is now , was inspirational. He was an perfect example of things we talked about in class such as him coming from a nice household then his whole life going down hill because his father had lost his job. He then started to act up in class because of the issues he was having at home. This shows that the issues that delinquents have going on in their lives can cause them to act out. He also stated that his family could not get any financial help because his father's last income was too high. I can relate to this issue because my mother has a middle class income and we do not get any financial aid, link, etc. After all this he was still able to succeed and eventually work his dream job. Showing not to let anything stop you from accomplishing your goals. He said that 90% of all delinquent crimes committed were from those that came from fatherless homes. I agree that if fathers were more involved in their child's life and enforcing things, there would be less delinquent crimes committed. He also made me realize that everyone is bias about some things and we can't let it take over us. I did learn about the Proffer system, which is federal prosecutors telling those under investigation that they will keep them protected if they give them information. -pieface007
ReplyDeleteAs I heard the officers speak about juvenile delinquency, their lives and how they got to where they are at, I thought to myself no matter how hard life was at one point they still made the decision to turn their life around. I think that was a great example from what we’ve been talking about these last couple of chapters. They also mentioned how juveniles make mistakes and a lot of that is because they don’t have fathers. I think that is very true because a lot of the criminal behavior in children start at home. A home without a father nor mother is very difficult especially if one is working to provide or just do not have time to teach their kids to be respectful and have good morals. The officer mentioned “ that if fathers were fathers we would not need police officers.” One other thing that caught my attention was bias and how they affect the way policing is done. Everyone has different bias and most officers let that affect them. I think also because society thinks one way a lot of the white male officers get in trouble. Also, how the system is broken and unfair, not only to civilians but to officers as well. Which that leads to a lot of people being incarcerated that shouldn't be. The lack of community policing is what gets the public to hate officers even more and that defeats the purpose of the “serve” part of being an officer. They have the protect part down perfectly but working with the community is the main key. It was mentioned that if there were more officers out helping the public and making relationships, that would help people be more freely to let them know any information they have. They are great examples to a new way of policing. taco007
ReplyDeleteAfter the juvenile detectives talked to the class, I learned quite a few new things. The first thing I learned is that 99% of police training is based around incarceration. This is crazy to think about, the fact that police (the people who we think of as mainly helping the community) are trained primarily to imprison people. The second thing I learned is that the criminal justice system is never fair. I found this interesting because despite bringing people to justice, it might not always be fair for everyone involved. The third thing I learned is that community training should be the main focus. Like I said earlier, the training is based all around incarceration, when it should be based around community so police can have a better relationship with the community, as well as a good response to things occurring in the community. The fourth thing I learned is 90% of all crimes committed are due to fatherless homes. This is a very true statement, as without a father or even a father-figure present in a home, children have no one to look up to and help guide them towards the right path in their lives. The fifth thing I learned is everyone has their own biases that can be recognized and changed, including police officers. Once you discover the specific biases you have towards certain things, you are then able to change them to see them as they truly are, rather than judge them solely off of your previous bias. The sixth thing I learned is people should only go to jail for disrespect, not for no real apparent reason. If someone attacks another person, steals from them, and runs away, they should be incarcerated, as they broke the law and showed major disrespect to that other person. The seventh thing I learned is 1 arrest can hurt a family/people for generations. If a father is arrested, his family may never recover from this loss and therefore, the future generations may still feel the effects of the arrest that happened generations ago. The eight thing I learned is excessive force will be seen at some point during a career in law enforcement. Excessive force will be used, whether necessary or not necessary, and people have to be ready to get involved and either deal with this or try and avoid it. The ninth thing I learned is the Proffer System. This system makes a person admitting to crimes immune, but, if any other names are mentioned, the person whose name was mentioned will be arrested and do the time for the crime that they had previously committed. The tenth thing I learned is that police cannot arrest their ways out of problems. Despite the number of arrests made, problems are still going to occur, and this is not the correct way to go about solving our problems.
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I also thought it was crazy that the police academy does not focus much of their attention on community policing. I also agree that one of the best points on of the officers mad was that we need to change our training to better reflect community policing rather than training on the art of incarceration. I also never knew that the proffer system was as easy as people talking to the federal government and then if they think it is credible the FBI will open an investigation on you just because of a tip that was given that is crazy to think that is all the might need to bring up charges.
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I really enjoyed having the officers come into speak with us yesterday because they have a lot of current information about what is going on as we speak in the law enforcement community around us. For privacy purposes in mind I will call them by Officer one and officer two. Officer one talked quite a bit about his past and how he became a police officer. Throughout his speech he made it a point to highlight that we put way to much emphasis on incarcerating people in police officer training and Academy. He says we should be putting more of the time and effort into teaching law enforcement how to community police and how to communicate with individuals that live in the community they police. One quote that really stood with me was “ we are never going to arrest our way out of any problems we have in the community.” The reason that particular quote really stuck with me was because we have talked in other classes about the absurd amount of people that we are locking up for crimes that don’t hurt anyone else and for crimes that aren’t even illegal in all states. It is one thing to here in the news about our prison overcrowding and it is another thing to hear it from someone who has been a police officer for years now and is close to retirement. Especially when that officer even goes as far as saying he things the whole police academy’s philosophy on how we police needs to change from the mentality of incarnation to community policing. I also was able to move around a lot from Officer number two about how to get involved with local law enforcement. He mentioned a lot about what the police academy was like and he also gave information about how to do ride alongs. I think that was also important to hear because this is a profession many of us are looking to go into and it is good to have someone who has just gone through these things to let you know what to expect.
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In class today there was two officers that spoke to the class, one that has been serving for a while and another that had just graduated and is on his way to becoming a policer officer. The most interesting thing I learned from them was the proffer system. This is where police will use someone who is being convicted of a crime to find out more information on crimes, usually lessening the sentence of the individual telling them. He also said that this was the one of the reasons that the criminal justice system is unfair. I agree that this is unfair, because it’s basically his word against mine if I got snitched on, and there isn’t any evidence needed for them to have reason to come after me. The first officer said that if cops got better at policing, there would be a lot less police brutality. He said that the reason officers get in these fighting situations repeatedly is because they don’t know how to police. They also talked about how police academies focus on incarceration rather than community policing, at a 99% to 1% ratio. One officer said that we need to focus on community policing more because that will help their relationship with the community. He said that he used to ticket a lot more, breaking records in his time as traffic police, but now he focuses on community policing because it does more good than bad. The first officer also noted that from his experience, about 90% of the people committing crimes don’t have a father in their household. He thinks that if we focus more on fatherless households we can ultimately reduce the crime rate. They are already doing this by going to schools and talking to the troublemakers, who he said are almost all in fatherless homes. One of the last things they told us was to download the app called Rave Guardian. This app is an alert system that is used by many places including campuses, perfect for if there’s an active shooter -BuffaloChickenDip007
ReplyDeleteI agree, I also talked about the fact that the system was unfair. I also agree with the statement that you made about how it is your word against the officers and how you could get in trouble without the officer even having evidence to prove that you are guilty of a certain charge. I also spoke about how 90% of people who commit crimes are fatherless or do not have but only one parent in the family to teach them what is right and wrong. -KiiNG007
DeleteIn class yesterday, we had two cops come and talk to our class. It was informative, and helpful. I was not surprised to hear one of the officers say that they have no faith in polygraphs. Polygraphs are b.s. they are not exact, nor entirely accurate. Another interesting thing that was said, was that 99% of police training is incarceration. Meaning that cadets, are taught to arrest, arrest, arrest. Which is completely counterproductive. Therefore it is no surprise when one of the officers said that. there is no community policing training at the academy. Even worse, is that community policing always gets cut from budgets, why? Because people do not want money spent on community policing. No wonder there is such mistrust and disconnect between the police, and the public. That mistrust, is caused by the use of Proffer, which is straight up hearsay, in which people who get in trouble with the feds. When they want to deal, they say anything and everything to take other people down with them. This is turn, is reflected n the officer's belief that the criminal justice system is broken beyond repair. Which it is, because the criminal justice system is not fair, nor equal. Especially the juvenile justice system, because 90% of all crimes that juveniles commit, is due to being in fatherless homes. That says a lot, because the kid is suffering without a father. More and more these days, the officer said that cops are becoming social workers. This is due to dysfunction in the criminal justice system. One of the officers said that when you are a cop, you affect not just the offender but their family as well. Anytine anyone sees someone in their family in handcuffs, that image sticks with them. Lastly, one of the officers said, that white male cops have it the hardest in Law Enforcement. I can see why, because a lot of white officers have been involved in incidents with non-whites. All in all it was great to hear what both officers had to say. --YouMustAcquit007---
ReplyDeleteThe juvenile officers spoke about their lives. One of them has mentioned that he has been in the police force for 20 years now and he still believes part of it is unfair. He has learned a lot from work. When he was younger he mentioned that he went rock bottom before he went back up. He gave his life to God and he has never went back down in life again. He mentioned how you can go in front of an Grand Jury ( federal ) and tell everything you have done to someone else in not get in trouble but only if its helping the officers arrest that other person. Example ( selling drugs to somebody else, you can tell the officers how much you sold and when you sold it, without you getting in trouble ). He believes that community policing is the best position to be on sometimes because you can engage with the people in the neighborhood while helping them out and you can get to know them better so that they are willing to help you out. Traffic service was the not so good position, it was boring and you couldn't really engage just passing out tickets all day long. He wanted to change what he had to do to something he actually enjoyed so he went on to the community policing. The juvenile officer also believed that a lot of the people that committed crime or that grew up around it , are the people that grew up without father in their life. He thought that their behavior was impacted from the life and homes they lived in. He mentioned that he also thought everyone who wears their pants " sagging " didn't have a father in their life. Most of the people he saw/ seen on the daily commitment report for driving on suspended license were poor people, because they can not afford to pay their tickets. Some things he stated i agree too but not all of them. LLTS78007
ReplyDeleteToday's class period was no ordinary session. Two officers came in and spoke to the whole class about what there was to look forward to in the criminal justice field. Not only that, but they talked about their personal experiences and the likelihood of certain situations taking place. One of the officers that spoke had been working in the field for multiple years and had many stories to tell to the class. The other officer was not as experienced and had just graduated and became an officer. They both shared very knowledgeable information. One of the first things that the officer with more experience in the field spoke about was the fact that many police do not do their jobs completely correct. Some hold racial grudges and so on. One thing that he said he was extremely good at was reading people. He said knowing how to read people in this line of work was crucial and was needed to be successful at doing your job the right way. One thing that I found extremely interesting was the fact that they brought up time management and the impact that this career force and time away from family. The officer speaking said that in the beginning of his career he did not spend much time with his family. He spent most of his time working on the job. Another thing that he mentioned about time management was that he told us to get our heads in the books and learn the information. He told us it does take time to learn it all, but once we know it, it is stuck in our heads forever and we will not forget it. One other thing that he talked about was that the criminal justice system is not fair. I thought that it was interesting coming from an officer. For him to share his beliefs about the system and how fair it actually was, was pretty awesome. Another thing that I liked a lot about the speakers that they mentioned was that 90% of all crimes that are committed are from people who were only raised by one parent. I thought this was very interesting because it shows that the lack of parental advisement truly really does impact the outcome of how a child may behave later on in life. I never would have thought that this would have had such a large impact as it does. Another part of the speech that I liked was how he talked about going the route of being a community police officer instead of just ticketing people all the time. The officer said that writing people tickets is no fun whatsoever. He said that the reason that he personally liked going the community route was because it would help relate to the rest of the community which was a good thing. One thing that really caught my attention was when they gave the class their emails and phone numbers and told us that they wanted us to get ahold of them and ask to do ride alongs with them or other officers just to see what it is like on an average day and to see if we enjoy the experience. The newer officer who had not spent much time in the field yet mentioned some unique information about how he got started in the field. He mentioned that he did not get to finish his classes before he was already offered a job, so the teachers in his classes all cut the grades right where they were and passed him in his courses. He also mentioned explorer which I thought was pretty cool. At the end of the day, I learned a decent amount of information that I did not know beforehand. I am very appreciative of them spending their quality time by coming in and talking to the class and passing on information to us students. -KiiNG007
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