Michele Deitch speaks about the unfairness of juveniles being sentenced in adult court due to the severity of their crime. She also speaks of their sentences and how long they are, some nearing life in prison. I agree with Michele, I believe that no child should be thrown into the adult court system until the age of eighteen. Children make mistakes and even though some may be extremely violent mistakes. I believe every child that has committed any type of crime should deserve a second chance. Now this second chance is not meant to be granted right away, but after a fair sentencing for a young, underdeveloped, immature child punished in the Juvenile Justice Court System. I believe that if children under the age of eighteen are sent into adult prisons for crimes they committed and eventually are released 25-30 years later, they will continue to cause crimes due to the physical and mental abuse they were in contact with in an adult prison at a young age. Michele mentions a young boy that she remembers from a juvenile jail, and in this jail, he was taught college classes, and through the jail’s help he acquired his GED’s and graduated from business school and went on to own his own business. To me this is how all juvenile jails should be, they should help the inmates get away from the life of crime and find ways to help them better themselves as a person and give them the opportunity to become successful. This speech is a real eye opener to people that do not know what is happening in the Juvenile Justice System today. -LW001
I also agree with what you are saying. The kids who are being charged as adults will never be the same again. That child maybe could have had a second chance but they sure won’t once they are charged as adults. The courts need to realize that every child is different and needs to be looked at differently. Any violent crime that a kid has committed under the age of eighteen really needs to be checked out on why it happened. Now I understand that some kids are not going to be the easiest to work with when it comes to this matter. But there needs to be another approach other than sending kids to prison. Especially if the case was like the boy when he killed his grandparents. Who knows if the grandparents were hurting him or if they were touching him inappropriately. Or maybe the medicine actually did cause it. Batman001
Like i said we need reform in the system maybe to break down the statutes depending on the crime and the circumstances. I have sympathy for some of these kids not getting the right treatment they need to better them selves. But as the video shows something has to be to fix the system. Its a broken system thats needs its tweaks. But if you look at some even famous people have gotten in trouble with the law and made it out. Look at Mark Walburg. When he was 16 he got arrested for attempted murder and was sent to prison for two years but only spent 45 days in jail after talking to a priest and getting his life back together. now he is a successful actor. Navy001
This video speaks upon how some kids are being treated like an adult by committing certain crimes. She speaks on a kid who killed his grandparents. Which he says the reason it happened was because it was the medicine he was taking. He faced thirty six years in prison. I understand for some offenses kids don’t need to be charged as an adult but whereas others maybe depending on the nature of the crime maybe they should be. But it does get kind of tricky because you think about the kids and who are there cellmates. They could possibly be roomed with someone who rapes kids then that kid would have experienced that trauma of being touched. I think a way to change this issue is to look at each case differently on the severity of the crime. Because there are a lot of factors to consider when dealing with taking someones life away. Was there dysfunction in the family, was there problems at school, or was the kid really that sick in the mind. Another way could be to do what prisons do but for juveniles but with a little more of a harsher sentence. Like the boy she was talking about in the beginning of the video who killed his grandparents. The courts could have got him some help and let him stay in juvenile for a couple of years. The kid was not normal he is spending most of his life in jail without help the system is set to put you away not help or get you help. Who knows if they sent home to juvie and got him medicine. Maybe after a couple years he would be a normal person again. Now this boy who can’t boy himself a movie ticket is in Prison with people who are worse than him. Batman001
I agree with you completely, they are just kids, and although what they are doing is terrible they may not mean it due to the medicine they take or the mental issues they have. I believe if the child has a mental issue or needs certain medicine to help with other issues, they should be allowed to stay in the juvenile system rather than being tortured in an adult prison. I am not saying that there shouldn’t be harsh punishments for these kids’ actions, but I do think the criminal justice system needs to keep children out of the adult prisons to eliminate future mental issues. -LW001
when she began talking about the young 12 year old boy from south Carolina and how he had a sentence of 30 years with out possibility of parole i paused the video and thought to my self why wasn't the boy allowed this how serious was the boys actions why did he get this long of a sentence how can he get 30 years? then i began to listen again he killed his grandparents then i began to think he is 12 years old and thinking back and looking back into my notes he could not be trialed in a adult court, but he was sent right to a adult court where he had to face the judge and be sentenced by the judge. she began to talk about how the judge took no thought into how old the boy was just gave him the sentence that was twice the number of years his age. Michele had some very good points that she wanted to talk about, thinking back to our notes that we went over in class we went over most of the questions that she had. what surprised me was when she was talking about how 7 year olds in 22 states where being trailed in as adults. over all Michele had some very good points throughout this ted talk that were talked heavily on our notes with a few different topics that might be covered Beretta001
I do agree with you, and I was shocked when I heard that the boy got to judge in by adult court judge and sentenced to thirty years without the possibility of parole. Addition to the Twenty-two states that trialed child as young as seven as an adult is that almost half of U.S states allow twelve and over to be prosecuted as an adult. I agree to Michele Deitch that the juvenile justice system must change. First, by removing the mandatory sentencing for juveniles, children should not be given life imprisonment or without the possibility of parole. They need rehabilitation help. Another is that children who are under the age of eighteen should not be held in adult prisons and jails. -Cancun001
Michele did do a great job talking about this topic. But as I have previously said in my post, I think that there are a lot of other factors that should be taken into consideration when putting a child behind bars. These children that are committed these crimes deep down know what they are doing is bad. Some way or another, they know. This is one part of the system I could not get into, making laws or being a judge. They are too many different ways that it could go. -PB001
What a powerful video on juvenile justice system? I agree in the video the lady wants to change the age of adult criminal court to the age of 18. But what about the younger? I think maybe we need to establish a intermediate juvenile/adult court system. Something that doesn't push the envelope on the suspect where the right punishment should fit the crime. Along with having the right rehabilitation programs to fit the right programs with the right person. She listed that there are people and work and overcome their problems and eventually become productive members of society. Some of the pictures she presented on the screen bothered me that these kids are getting thrown away to the side of the curb like trash. Where does all of our tax dollars go? Maybe the suspects had a bad child hood where family was not present to nullify the difference between right or wrong. Mainly I mean about a paternal influence in the house? Because of there would, wouldn’t there have been outside source maybe a common thought in the juvenile a sense of right and wrong. But maybe another factor was lack of being introduced to religion. This would provide and ethical support and common sense to the juvenile to know the difference between right and wrong. This can go around a lot of different ways. Change is needed in order to fix a broken system it’s just common sense. The levity of the system needs reform and seems like it would be better on the taxpayer and the juvenile to see what is better for everybody. Navy001
I agree with you, I believe an intermediate juvenile/adult system would be a good idea. We must focus on what the person needs especially a child offender, a more rehabilitating plan should be in order. Just because someone is a little over eighteen or a young child who committed a serious crime, I believe we need to dig deeper and focus on why. Change is necessary to fix our youth before they cycle into the adult systems. Rehabilitation should be the main priority for everyone in the system. If we get them on their feet it can be used as a continuous example. -KF001
Michele Deitch talks about the differences when children are sent to juvenile facilities versus when they are sent to adult facilities. The underlying question is why would we try or treat kids as adults? Youths that go to adult facilities have a thirty-four percent greater chance of revisiting than kids that get sent to juvenile facilities. Adult facilities and prison are no place for a child. We need to give these children a second chance. The human body and mind is not even fully developed until around the age of twenty-five. Anyone under the age of eighteen is considered a kid which is still quite a stretch to twenty-five. A minor delinquent could not be nearly fully developed or have the same sense of understanding. We must have hope in our youth and give them the chance to live a crime free life. Kids that go to adult prisons do not get the same opportunities. Juvenile facilities focus on rehabilitation such as; intense treatment programs and educational opportunities, we do not need to throw these kids away. In order to help these children we need to diminish the mandatory sentence law. Children are not fully developed and need to be considered for rehabilitation and examined for any trauma. There is hope for delinquent children, we must allow it. Maybe we need to look at juvenile systems as a learning tool. If we can better kids so much through the juvenile system. Why can we not follow a more rehabilitating approach for the adults as well? -KF001
Michele Deitch starts by telling the story of a twelve years old boy who killed his grandparents. The boy was given a thirty years sentence without the possibility of parole. She states that an adult criminal court judge sentenced the boy. She speaks about the unfairness of juveniles convicted in the adult court because of how heinous crime they commit. I was shocked when she said that almost half of U.S states allow twelve and over to be prosecuted as an adult. Twenty-two states in which a child as young as seven can be prosecuted as an adult. I do agree with what she is saying that those kids need treatment to make sure they are not going to re-offend again. We do have a Juvenile Detention Center, but she states the many States require and allow kids who are charged as an adult to be held in an adult prison. It sounds crazy because those kids can be the target of adult inmates, especially Pedophilia. I like what she said that even they commit a crime, they are still children. We, as part of the society, should set a standard to treat those children behind the bar the way we want to treat our children. Yes, they did commit a crime, but instead of punishing them, we need to help them so when the time they got out, they will not go back on what they did that land them in there in the first place. I do agree that the juvenile justice system must change. Children who are under the age of eighteen should not be held in adult prisons and jails for such reason like public safety. Another thing is by removing the mandatory sentencing for juveniles, because no child should be given life imprisonment or without the possibility of parole. There are so many things that we need to change in our juvenile justice system and to help those unfortunate children. -Cancun001
This ted talk was definitely a serious topic. I have not done enough research on my end so I really don’t have a side yet. But from what I do know, is that children are young, some are still learning whats right from wrong, some are as young as still learning simple math as said in the video. But these children do know what they are doing when they commit the act. How do they not know the possible outcomes? Don’t get me wrong seeing a child in an adult prison is upsetting and sad. In the ted talk the speaker mentioned that some of these children have “mental illnesses”. In my opinion, a child should not be diagnosed with an illness, they are still growing and learning. How can a doctor prescribe medicine to a young child with ADHD OR ADD? Sure they may show signs of it but their mind is not fully developed yet. The way the world is today, with TV shows, friends and family members, or even a child fancy something that could hurt someone or something they know it. Maybe we should think of a different type of system for the young children that “commit crimes”. We have all these programs for adults but what about young children. How can we give them the extra help that they need? -PB001
I completely agree with what you are saying. A lot of times I do question how does this kid not know there going to get in trouble. But of course we should always acknowledge the fact kids have not fully developed their brain yet. But some crimes are just ridiculous. For example stealing a car. That’s something a child should know not to do. It’s kind of a common since thing. Like when I was a kid and I would think about doing something at school or if I went with my friends somewhere. I thought about every single outcome that could happen no matter if my mom caught me or not. Kids are smarter than what we give them credit for. Just cases dealing with guns. If the gun is locked up somewhere a kid watches where they put, how it’s placed, and what the password is even if u think they are not looking. Batman001
I found this Ted talk to be both disturbing and interesting at the same time. Over half of the states in the U.S allow kids over the age of 12 to be tried as adults while twenty-two states go as far as to allow children over 7 to be tried as adults. I knew that children as young as 16 could be tried as adults, but not children as young as 7. I can’t think of a valid reason for a child that young to be punished so severely. At that age it seems some form of psychiatric attention is required rather than incarceration. Something else that I found interesting was her statement “Children are getting life without possibility of parole…”. I thought that a juvenile being sentenced to life without the possibility of parole had been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2005 (Roper v Simmons). While the speaker is educating us on the treatment of juveniles, I feel that some of her data is incorrect. This is not to discredit her work, but to bring awareness to the misrepresented data. We see people do this frequently such as on the news and at debates. It is important to recognize discrepancies such as this so that we may keep ourselves informed with only the truth. We as citizens in the U.S are responsible for holding those in authority accountable for their actions by educating ourselves on our very own laws. ENFJA001
Wednesday in class we talked about the old theory and how you had to be 13 and older to be tried in adult court so I was watching Michele Deitch and when she mentioned the boy that killed his grandparents in California was 12 and sentenced to life I immediately gave him life not paying attention to the fact that he’s a child or anything. The judge was just looking at the crime and It's totally wrong to kill your grandparents so no i’m not saying he should’ve gotten a softer consequence but the rules should apply to everyone no matter the crime. What else surprised me was when she was talking about how 7 year olds in 22 states where being trailed in as adults.As people grow up they decision making in life also changes. You can be going through a lot as a kid that causes you to make bad choices but as you grow older you learn how to handle yours and you also learn good from bad. Giving someone so young life is an iffy situation for me because mindsets grow and decisions get wiser.-KenzieLand001
Michele's talk was great and she had some really good points that we also touched on in class. In class on Wednesday we talked about the age that kids need to be to be prosecuted as an adult and we also talked about the age they need to be to not even be able to be charged with a crime. I agree that a when it comes to certain crimes kids need to be held accountable for their actions. But that child should not be put into adult prison. If the kid is going to be incarcerated then they should be in a juvenile center where the child is in programs until they are old enough to be transferred to an adult center. Also the Supreme Court ruled that a juvenile convicted of a crime can not serve a life sentence because it is unconstitutional. At such a young age people are not mentally mature and the skills they need to make decisions are not completely developed yet. We as adults need to hold ourselves accountable for when the youth that we are involved with everyday make poor decisions and we need to recognize that we are who they look at when they act.-Purdue001
I agree that the severity of the crime should not be overlooked when dealing with juvenile offenders but that there needs to be different actions taken for the punishment. I feel that there is a very strong issue with the way some of these cases are being handled because it is causing recidivism with the youth if we just focus on incarceration for youth crime. There needs to be a strong separation of the juvenile justice system and adult criminal justice system in order to slow down recidivism and also fight the habitual offenders of the juvenile justice system before they become older and enter a life of crime. -Blues001
In this Ted Talk, Michele Deitch talks about how children are being tried as adults in the adult court system. Juveniles and adults both go through an arrest, trial, and incarceration. A waiver for juveniles is transferring legal jurisdiction over the most serious and experienced juvenile offenders to the adult court for criminal prosecution. Deitch and her students start to write reports from their research over the years so they can try and change the laws and policies of how they affect children under the age of 18 in the adult justice system. She also gives an example of how children as young as 7 can be prosecuted as an adult in about 22 states. If you think about a 7 year old child confined into a prison full of adults, it just doesn’t make sense. When I think about children that are 12 and under going to prison in an adult facility even if the crime was a serious one like murder, doesn’t the juvenile justice system have a place for them instead of locking them with people 3 times their size. The juvenile system should evaluate whether or not these children should be put into a serious penetration facility and if that is the case, maybe they should look into making a new facility for those types of kids rather than throwing them in an adult prison. In the video, I like how the speaker talks about how she knows that the youth need to be held accountable for their actions but when they choose the adult justice system over the juvenile justice system for the kids then we have lost the sense of what our criminal justice system is supposed to be. Overall, children that young need to be in an environment that helps them overcome their mistakes so they won’t re offend. -HL001
I agree it doesn’t make sense for a seven-year-old to be prosecuted and tried as an adult, much less being in prison with adults. As we talked about in class and this video addressed there are some very serious issues that will arise and have in the past. I also enjoyed how the speaker said that juveniles need to face repercussion for wrong doings. It’s not that Juveniles should get away with everything because of their age but as the speaker said the Juvenile justice system is for more prepared for these things and can increase these kids chances of success when they get out as opposed to increasing their chance to recidivate if they are in adult correctional facilities.~PJWB001
Michele brings many eye opening facts to the table during this presentation and opened up that one young boy killed his grandparents and was sentenced to a mandatory minimum of 25 years. The judge presiding over this case was not allowed discretion due to the mandatory minimum laws which I feel that is an issue. While I definitely feel there needs to be repercussions for the youth who murder other people, I feel that there is a high risk of influence from something other than their own will and that is where the discretion needs to be allowed. Rather than just locking up a juvenile for a crime, there should be a similar path for all juveniles to head down regardless of the crime, which would allow for all juveniles to stay away from adult prison. The risk of recidivism drastically increases when a juvenile visits an adult facility, and the emotional stress that comes from this is detrimental to the juvenile. Michele also brought another really good point up that juveniles awaiting court should not be held in adult facilities because of all of the emotional stresses that can tear a youth's mind apart, as well as the sexual abuse fears that many adults are even afraid of. Hearing that the federal government also mandated that juveniles stay separated from adults when in adult prison shows that the federal system realizes what type of impact this can have on a young kid. Regardless of the crime I feel a strong reform to how juvenile offenders are handled in the legal system is needed in order to reduce recidivism. -Blues001
The speaker Michele Deitch did a great job at addressing this very serious and real issue. It is honestly shocking that a child who is going through all these changes that we talked about in class can be sentenced as an adult do to mandatory sentencing laws. It was sad to hear that 22 states can prosecute a child as young as seven as an adult. Although the crimes talked about in this video are horrible, it is still a seven-year-old. A Childs ethical view of the world hasn’t developed yet. The moral rights and wrongs that adults know very well are still being established for a child that young. Sentencing a juvenile that young will do nothing except increase the chance that now adult will recidivate. This is not implying that the crime isn’t serious but rather to look at the mitigating circumstance, it’s a child. A ten who is in adult prison for 25 years as opposed to another ten-year-old in juvenile detention is crazy to think of as a reality. Michele Deitch said there were 10,000 children being held in adult prison or jail. Juveniles who are around adults are at great risk for all sorts of problem both addressed in this video and in class. I agree with the speaker that the minimum age to be tried in adult court should be raised. ~PJWB001
Hey PJWB001, To connect with one of your first statements, I completely agree. Even though juveniles can commit terrible crimes...they are children. Especially with the example you gave from the video (the seven year old). To add, that seven year old committed murder because of his medication side effects, he did not even intentionally commit the murder from what I am gathering. The judge, jury, etc. Need to look into things like that before jumping to an an Adult sentence. I can understand maybe getting a 17-close to 18 juvenile but not a 7 year old! Not only that, he ad to sit in an adult facility while awaiting child. I am not sure if he was kept separate from the inmates or not but that right there can severely damage a child both mentally and physically. Stress, Rape, solitude, etc. AND even if he was kept in Solitary confinement, he would still develop mental illnesses and collect a lot of stress. That 10,000 number is HUGE and we need to shrink it. -TanLionNala001
To start, the biggest fact that hit me hard in this TED talk was how young kids are when they are sentenced to jail. Not Juvenile jail but ADULT. Michele talks about a kid ,10 years old, who was going to be tried as an adult for murder. Not only that, this was a child with mental illness/on medication AND because he was being tried as an adult, has to sit in an adult facility while he waits for trial. Many kids also go to adult court for things as little as property crimes. When they go to court, they look more closely at what county the kid is from and the judge...rather than their criminal record and background. She gave a long list of what she sees when she sees a kid locked up in a cell at an adult facility, those including boredom, depression, hopeless, scared, etc...which I can understand because these children are getting their lives taken from them for something small (sometimes as big as murder) and being introduced to a highly stress fill environment. Children are just that, CHILDREN. They need to be handled differently than adults because their brain is still maturing (though ours do not stop until about 21-25 years of age) and in its early stages. A child should not be going to jail for something they did not know was wrong. Or better worded, A child should not have to be locked up for the rest of their life (or a big chunk of their life) just because they gave in to impulse or friends or whatever the case may be. Now to add to that, when kids are thrown into [Adult] prison for long periods of time they are more likely to reoffend again because they were not offered rehabilitation, they were offered “cages.” We already warehouse our adults, we do not need to warehouse our children out of ignorance. -TanLionNala001
Michele Deitch speaks about the unfairness of juveniles being sentenced in adult court due to the severity of their crime. She also speaks of their sentences and how long they are, some nearing life in prison. I agree with Michele, I believe that no child should be thrown into the adult court system until the age of eighteen. Children make mistakes and even though some may be extremely violent mistakes. I believe every child that has committed any type of crime should deserve a second chance. Now this second chance is not meant to be granted right away, but after a fair sentencing for a young, underdeveloped, immature child punished in the Juvenile Justice Court System. I believe that if children under the age of eighteen are sent into adult prisons for crimes they committed and eventually are released 25-30 years later, they will continue to cause crimes due to the physical and mental abuse they were in contact with in an adult prison at a young age. Michele mentions a young boy that she remembers from a juvenile jail, and in this jail, he was taught college classes, and through the jail’s help he acquired his GED’s and graduated from business school and went on to own his own business. To me this is how all juvenile jails should be, they should help the inmates get away from the life of crime and find ways to help them better themselves as a person and give them the opportunity to become successful. This speech is a real eye opener to people that do not know what is happening in the Juvenile Justice System today. -LW001
ReplyDeleteI also agree with what you are saying. The kids who are being charged as adults will never be the same again. That child maybe could have had a second chance but they sure won’t once they are charged as adults. The courts need to realize that every child is different and needs to be looked at differently. Any violent crime that a kid has committed under the age of eighteen really needs to be checked out on why it happened. Now I understand that some kids are not going to be the easiest to work with when it comes to this matter. But there needs to be another approach other than sending kids to prison. Especially if the case was like the boy when he killed his grandparents. Who knows if the grandparents were hurting him or if they were touching him inappropriately. Or maybe the medicine actually did cause it. Batman001
DeleteLike i said we need reform in the system maybe to break down the statutes depending on the crime and the circumstances. I have sympathy for some of these kids not getting the right treatment they need to better them selves. But as the video shows something has to be to fix the system. Its a broken system thats needs its tweaks. But if you look at some even famous people have gotten in trouble with the law and made it out. Look at Mark Walburg. When he was 16 he got arrested for attempted murder and was sent to prison for two years but only spent 45 days in jail after talking to a priest and getting his life back together. now he is a successful actor. Navy001
DeleteThis video speaks upon how some kids are being treated like an adult by committing certain crimes. She speaks on a kid who killed his grandparents. Which he says the reason it happened was because it was the medicine he was taking. He faced thirty six years in prison. I understand for some offenses kids don’t need to be charged as an adult but whereas others maybe depending on the nature of the crime maybe they should be. But it does get kind of tricky because you think about the kids and who are there cellmates. They could possibly be roomed with someone who rapes kids then that kid would have experienced that trauma of being touched. I think a way to change this issue is to look at each case differently on the severity of the crime. Because there are a lot of factors to consider when dealing with taking someones life away. Was there dysfunction in the family, was there problems at school, or was the kid really that sick in the mind. Another way could be to do what prisons do but for juveniles but with a little more of a harsher sentence. Like the boy she was talking about in the beginning of the video who killed his grandparents. The courts could have got him some help and let him stay in juvenile for a couple of years. The kid was not normal he is spending most of his life in jail without help the system is set to put you away not help or get you help. Who knows if they sent home to juvie and got him medicine. Maybe after a couple years he would be a normal person again. Now this boy who can’t boy himself a movie ticket is in Prison with people who are worse than him. Batman001
ReplyDeleteI agree with you completely, they are just kids, and although what they are doing is terrible they may not mean it due to the medicine they take or the mental issues they have. I believe if the child has a mental issue or needs certain medicine to help with other issues, they should be allowed to stay in the juvenile system rather than being tortured in an adult prison. I am not saying that there shouldn’t be harsh punishments for these kids’ actions, but I do think the criminal justice system needs to keep children out of the adult prisons to eliminate future mental issues. -LW001
Deletewhen she began talking about the young 12 year old boy from south Carolina and how he had a sentence of 30 years with out possibility of parole i paused the video and thought to my self why wasn't the boy allowed this how serious was the boys actions why did he get this long of a sentence how can he get 30 years? then i began to listen again he killed his grandparents then i began to think he is 12 years old and thinking back and looking back into my notes he could not be trialed in a adult court, but he was sent right to a adult court where he had to face the judge and be sentenced by the judge. she began to talk about how the judge took no thought into how old the boy was just gave him the sentence that was twice the number of years his age. Michele had some very good points that she wanted to talk about, thinking back to our notes that we went over in class we went over most of the questions that she had. what surprised me was when she was talking about how 7 year olds in 22 states where being trailed in as adults. over all Michele had some very good points throughout this ted talk that were talked heavily on our notes with a few different topics that might be covered Beretta001
ReplyDeleteI do agree with you, and I was shocked when I heard that the boy got to judge in by adult court judge and sentenced to thirty years without the possibility of parole. Addition to the Twenty-two states that trialed child as young as seven as an adult is that almost half of U.S states allow twelve and over to be prosecuted as an adult. I agree to Michele Deitch that the juvenile justice system must change. First, by removing the mandatory sentencing for juveniles, children should not be given life imprisonment or without the possibility of parole. They need rehabilitation help. Another is that children who are under the age of eighteen should not be held in adult prisons and jails. -Cancun001
DeleteMichele did do a great job talking about this topic. But as I have previously said in my post, I think that there are a lot of other factors that should be taken into consideration when putting a child behind bars. These children that are committed these crimes deep down know what they are doing is bad. Some way or another, they know. This is one part of the system I could not get into, making laws or being a judge. They are too many different ways that it could go. -PB001
DeleteWhat a powerful video on juvenile justice system? I agree in the video the lady wants to change the age of adult criminal court to the age of 18. But what about the younger? I think maybe we need to establish a intermediate juvenile/adult court system. Something that doesn't push the envelope on the suspect where the right punishment should fit the crime. Along with having the right rehabilitation programs to fit the right programs with the right person. She listed that there are people and work and overcome their problems and eventually become productive members of society. Some of the pictures she presented on the screen bothered me that these kids are getting thrown away to the side of the curb like trash. Where does all of our tax dollars go? Maybe the suspects had a bad child hood where family was not present to nullify the difference between right or wrong. Mainly I mean about a paternal influence in the house? Because of there would, wouldn’t there have been outside source maybe a common thought in the juvenile a sense of right and wrong. But maybe another factor was lack of being introduced to religion. This would provide and ethical support and common sense to the juvenile to know the difference between right and wrong. This can go around a lot of different ways. Change is needed in order to fix a broken system it’s just common sense. The levity of the system needs reform and seems like it would be better on the taxpayer and the juvenile to see what is better for everybody. Navy001
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, I believe an intermediate juvenile/adult system would be a good idea. We must focus on what the person needs especially a child offender, a more rehabilitating plan should be in order. Just because someone is a little over eighteen or a young child who committed a serious crime, I believe we need to dig deeper and focus on why. Change is necessary to fix our youth before they cycle into the adult systems. Rehabilitation should be the main priority for everyone in the system. If we get them on their feet it can be used as a continuous example.
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Michele Deitch talks about the differences when children are sent to juvenile facilities versus when they are sent to adult facilities. The underlying question is why would we try or treat kids as adults? Youths that go to adult facilities have a thirty-four percent greater chance of revisiting than kids that get sent to juvenile facilities. Adult facilities and prison are no place for a child. We need to give these children a second chance. The human body and mind is not even fully developed until around the age of twenty-five. Anyone under the age of eighteen is considered a kid which is still quite a stretch to twenty-five. A minor delinquent could not be nearly fully developed or have the same sense of understanding. We must have hope in our youth and give them the chance to live a crime free life. Kids that go to adult prisons do not get the same opportunities. Juvenile facilities focus on rehabilitation such as; intense treatment programs and educational opportunities, we do not need to throw these kids away. In order to help these children we need to diminish the mandatory sentence law. Children are not fully developed and need to be considered for rehabilitation and examined for any trauma. There is hope for delinquent children, we must allow it. Maybe we need to look at juvenile systems as a learning tool. If we can better kids so much through the juvenile system. Why can we not follow a more rehabilitating approach for the adults as well?
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Michele Deitch starts by telling the story of a twelve years old boy who killed his grandparents. The boy was given a thirty years sentence without the possibility of parole. She states that an adult criminal court judge sentenced the boy. She speaks about the unfairness of juveniles convicted in the adult court because of how heinous crime they commit. I was shocked when she said that almost half of U.S states allow twelve and over to be prosecuted as an adult. Twenty-two states in which a child as young as seven can be prosecuted as an adult. I do agree with what she is saying that those kids need treatment to make sure they are not going to re-offend again. We do have a Juvenile Detention Center, but she states the many States require and allow kids who are charged as an adult to be held in an adult prison. It sounds crazy because those kids can be the target of adult inmates, especially Pedophilia. I like what she said that even they commit a crime, they are still children. We, as part of the society, should set a standard to treat those children behind the bar the way we want to treat our children. Yes, they did commit a crime, but instead of punishing them, we need to help them so when the time they got out, they will not go back on what they did that land them in there in the first place. I do agree that the juvenile justice system must change. Children who are under the age of eighteen should not be held in adult prisons and jails for such reason like public safety. Another thing is by removing the mandatory sentencing for juveniles, because no child should be given life imprisonment or without the possibility of parole. There are so many things that we need to change in our juvenile justice system and to help those unfortunate children. -Cancun001
ReplyDeleteThis ted talk was definitely a serious topic. I have not done enough research on my end so I really don’t have a side yet. But from what I do know, is that children are young, some are still learning whats right from wrong, some are as young as still learning simple math as said in the video. But these children do know what they are doing when they commit the act. How do they not know the possible outcomes? Don’t get me wrong seeing a child in an adult prison is upsetting and sad. In the ted talk the speaker mentioned that some of these children have “mental illnesses”. In my opinion, a child should not be diagnosed with an illness, they are still growing and learning. How can a doctor prescribe medicine to a young child with ADHD OR ADD? Sure they may show signs of it but their mind is not fully developed yet. The way the world is today, with TV shows, friends and family members, or even a child fancy something that could hurt someone or something they know it. Maybe we should think of a different type of system for the young children that “commit crimes”. We have all these programs for adults but what about young children. How can we give them the extra help that they need? -PB001
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with what you are saying. A lot of times I do question how does this kid not know there going to get in trouble. But of course we should always acknowledge the fact kids have not fully developed their brain yet. But some crimes are just ridiculous. For example stealing a car. That’s something a child should know not to do. It’s kind of a common since thing. Like when I was a kid and I would think about doing something at school or if I went with my friends somewhere. I thought about every single outcome that could happen no matter if my mom caught me or not. Kids are smarter than what we give them credit for. Just cases dealing with guns. If the gun is locked up somewhere a kid watches where they put, how it’s placed, and what the password is even if u think they are not looking. Batman001
DeleteI found this Ted talk to be both disturbing and interesting at the same time. Over half of the states in the U.S allow kids over the age of 12 to be tried as adults while twenty-two states go as far as to allow children over 7 to be tried as adults. I knew that children as young as 16 could be tried as adults, but not children as young as 7. I can’t think of a valid reason for a child that young to be punished so severely. At that age it seems some form of psychiatric attention is required rather than incarceration. Something else that I found interesting was her statement “Children are getting life without possibility of parole…”. I thought that a juvenile being sentenced to life without the possibility of parole had been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2005 (Roper v Simmons). While the speaker is educating us on the treatment of juveniles, I feel that some of her data is incorrect. This is not to discredit her work, but to bring awareness to the misrepresented data. We see people do this frequently such as on the news and at debates. It is important to recognize discrepancies such as this so that we may keep ourselves informed with only the truth. We as citizens in the U.S are responsible for holding those in authority accountable for their actions by educating ourselves on our very own laws. ENFJA001
ReplyDeleteWednesday in class we talked about the old theory and how you had to be 13 and older to be tried in adult court so I was watching Michele Deitch and when she mentioned the boy that killed his grandparents in California was 12 and sentenced to life I immediately gave him life not paying attention to the fact that he’s a child or anything. The judge was just looking at the crime and It's totally wrong to kill your grandparents so no i’m not saying he should’ve gotten a softer consequence but the rules should apply to everyone no matter the crime. What else surprised me was when she was talking about how 7 year olds in 22 states where being trailed in as adults.As people grow up they decision making in life also changes. You can be going through a lot as a kid that causes you to make bad choices but as you grow older you learn how to handle yours and you also learn good from bad. Giving someone so young life is an iffy situation for me because mindsets grow and decisions get wiser.-KenzieLand001
ReplyDeleteMichele's talk was great and she had some really good points that we also touched on in class. In class on Wednesday we talked about the age that kids need to be to be prosecuted as an adult and we also talked about the age they need to be to not even be able to be charged with a crime. I agree that a when it comes to certain crimes kids need to be held accountable for their actions. But that child should not be put into adult prison. If the kid is going to be incarcerated then they should be in a juvenile center where the child is in programs until they are old enough to be transferred to an adult center. Also the Supreme Court ruled that a juvenile convicted of a crime can not serve a life sentence because it is unconstitutional. At such a young age people are not mentally mature and the skills they need to make decisions are not completely developed yet. We as adults need to hold ourselves accountable for when the youth that we are involved with everyday make poor decisions and we need to recognize that we are who they look at when they act.-Purdue001
ReplyDeleteI agree that the severity of the crime should not be overlooked when dealing with juvenile offenders but that there needs to be different actions taken for the punishment. I feel that there is a very strong issue with the way some of these cases are being handled because it is causing recidivism with the youth if we just focus on incarceration for youth crime. There needs to be a strong separation of the juvenile justice system and adult criminal justice system in order to slow down recidivism and also fight the habitual offenders of the juvenile justice system before they become older and enter a life of crime. -Blues001
DeleteIn this Ted Talk, Michele Deitch talks about how children are being tried as adults in the adult court system. Juveniles and adults both go through an arrest, trial, and incarceration. A waiver for juveniles is transferring legal jurisdiction over the most serious and experienced juvenile offenders to the adult court for criminal prosecution. Deitch and her students start to write reports from their research over the years so they can try and change the laws and policies of how they affect children under the age of 18 in the adult justice system. She also gives an example of how children as young as 7 can be prosecuted as an adult in about 22 states. If you think about a 7 year old child confined into a prison full of adults, it just doesn’t make sense. When I think about children that are 12 and under going to prison in an adult facility even if the crime was a serious one like murder, doesn’t the juvenile justice system have a place for them instead of locking them with people 3 times their size. The juvenile system should evaluate whether or not these children should be put into a serious penetration facility and if that is the case, maybe they should look into making a new facility for those types of kids rather than throwing them in an adult prison. In the video, I like how the speaker talks about how she knows that the youth need to be held accountable for their actions but when they choose the adult justice system over the juvenile justice system for the kids then we have lost the sense of what our criminal justice system is supposed to be. Overall, children that young need to be in an environment that helps them overcome their mistakes so they won’t re offend. -HL001
ReplyDeleteI agree it doesn’t make sense for a seven-year-old to be prosecuted and tried as an adult, much less being in prison with adults. As we talked about in class and this video addressed there are some very serious issues that will arise and have in the past. I also enjoyed how the speaker said that juveniles need to face repercussion for wrong doings. It’s not that Juveniles should get away with everything because of their age but as the speaker said the Juvenile justice system is for more prepared for these things and can increase these kids chances of success when they get out as opposed to increasing their chance to recidivate if they are in adult correctional facilities.~PJWB001
DeleteMichele brings many eye opening facts to the table during this presentation and opened up that one young boy killed his grandparents and was sentenced to a mandatory minimum of 25 years. The judge presiding over this case was not allowed discretion due to the mandatory minimum laws which I feel that is an issue. While I definitely feel there needs to be repercussions for the youth who murder other people, I feel that there is a high risk of influence from something other than their own will and that is where the discretion needs to be allowed. Rather than just locking up a juvenile for a crime, there should be a similar path for all juveniles to head down regardless of the crime, which would allow for all juveniles to stay away from adult prison. The risk of recidivism drastically increases when a juvenile visits an adult facility, and the emotional stress that comes from this is detrimental to the juvenile. Michele also brought another really good point up that juveniles awaiting court should not be held in adult facilities because of all of the emotional stresses that can tear a youth's mind apart, as well as the sexual abuse fears that many adults are even afraid of. Hearing that the federal government also mandated that juveniles stay separated from adults when in adult prison shows that the federal system realizes what type of impact this can have on a young kid. Regardless of the crime I feel a strong reform to how juvenile offenders are handled in the legal system is needed in order to reduce recidivism. -Blues001
ReplyDeleteThe speaker Michele Deitch did a great job at addressing this very serious and real issue. It is honestly shocking that a child who is going through all these changes that we talked about in class can be sentenced as an adult do to mandatory sentencing laws. It was sad to hear that 22 states can prosecute a child as young as seven as an adult. Although the crimes talked about in this video are horrible, it is still a seven-year-old. A Childs ethical view of the world hasn’t developed yet. The moral rights and wrongs that adults know very well are still being established for a child that young. Sentencing a juvenile that young will do nothing except increase the chance that now adult will recidivate. This is not implying that the crime isn’t serious but rather to look at the mitigating circumstance, it’s a child. A ten who is in adult prison for 25 years as opposed to another ten-year-old in juvenile detention is crazy to think of as a reality. Michele Deitch said there were 10,000 children being held in adult prison or jail. Juveniles who are around adults are at great risk for all sorts of problem both addressed in this video and in class. I agree with the speaker that the minimum age to be tried in adult court should be raised. ~PJWB001
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DeleteTo connect with one of your first statements, I completely agree. Even though juveniles can commit terrible crimes...they are children. Especially with the example you gave from the video (the seven year old). To add, that seven year old committed murder because of his medication side effects, he did not even intentionally commit the murder from what I am gathering. The judge, jury, etc. Need to look into things like that before jumping to an an Adult sentence. I can understand maybe getting a 17-close to 18 juvenile but not a 7 year old! Not only that, he ad to sit in an adult facility while awaiting child. I am not sure if he was kept separate from the inmates or not but that right there can severely damage a child both mentally and physically. Stress, Rape, solitude, etc. AND even if he was kept in Solitary confinement, he would still develop mental illnesses and collect a lot of stress. That 10,000 number is HUGE and we need to shrink it.
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To start, the biggest fact that hit me hard in this TED talk was how young kids are when they are sentenced to jail. Not Juvenile jail but ADULT. Michele talks about a kid ,10 years old, who was going to be tried as an adult for murder. Not only that, this was a child with mental illness/on medication AND because he was being tried as an adult, has to sit in an adult facility while he waits for trial. Many kids also go to adult court for things as little as property crimes. When they go to court, they look more closely at what county the kid is from and the judge...rather than their criminal record and background. She gave a long list of what she sees when she sees a kid locked up in a cell at an adult facility, those including boredom, depression, hopeless, scared, etc...which I can understand because these children are getting their lives taken from them for something small (sometimes as big as murder) and being introduced to a highly stress fill environment. Children are just that, CHILDREN. They need to be handled differently than adults because their brain is still maturing (though ours do not stop until about 21-25 years of age) and in its early stages. A child should not be going to jail for something they did not know was wrong. Or better worded, A child should not have to be locked up for the rest of their life (or a big chunk of their life) just because they gave in to impulse or friends or whatever the case may be. Now to add to that, when kids are thrown into [Adult] prison for long periods of time they are more likely to reoffend again because they were not offered rehabilitation, they were offered “cages.” We already warehouse our adults, we do not need to warehouse our children out of ignorance.
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