Classical Theory and Delinquency

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  1. The classical theory of crime states that a person commits a crime because they want to commit a crime, not because they are in a mental state that makes them commit the crime. I agree with some of the classical theory, I believe that most people commit crimes due to them wanting to, but I also believe that mental state plays a significant role as well. People with mental health issues do not always understand what they are doing, they may not think what they are doing is a crime, or that it is hurting someone else. This video also mentions that punishments for crimes have to go along with how severe the crime was. I agree with this portion of the classical theory entirely. If someone commits a crime they have to serve whatever punishment deems suitable for what they did. This video also states that punishments need to be swift and severe in order to prove a point to future criminals to help deter crimes in the future. I think if people saw how severe and bad some punishments were for certain crimes, the crime rate would go down significantly, due to no one wanting those repercussions to happen to them. All in all, I agree with the classical theory other than the thought of crime not being caused by mental state, because I do believe that mental health issues can play a big role in crime. -LW001

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    1. Mental health has been a problem for centuries. But how in the past could you determine was crazy? We hadn’t come up with a solution to that until recent years. We just can’t keep throwing people in jail if they were deemed mentally incompetent, that would be a cost waste and waste of space in prison for some of our serious violators. I think when children are growing up maybe they could be screened and we could selective withdraw the potentials and determine what might there future bring. Would they be violent? We could insert special programs into the persons’ life so they could see the possible future for a potential crime abuser. Navy001

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    2. Hey LW001,

      My response is also in connection with Navy001's response to you. Your last few statements stuck out to me when you mentioned how mental health issues can play a big role in crime. Mental health has been around for a long time, for ages. Mental health does play a big role but it is not always the reason as to why someone has done something wrong. For example, a person with ADHD or ADD may commit a crime differently than someone how has an antisocial disorder (these people are usually not empathetic and take advantage of people). The topic can be largely debated in regards to classical theory depending on what lens you look at it from.
      -TanLionNala001

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    3. In your blog, I agree with your statement about how you agree with the classical theory but also how someone’s mental state can play a role when committing crimes. Sometimes people do not have control over what they are doing or even realize that they could be hurting someone in that process. I agree with your response on how people should be punished no matter what if they commit a crime that is suitable for that specific punishment. I also like that you stated how severe some punishments can be and how that would make the crime rate go down. -HL001

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  2. Beccaria was ahead of his time when he thought of this system he developed. The classical system mainly based on the idea that criminals have free will and are able to comprehend the idea of right and wrong. Basically the idea is deterrence. Knowing to do the same crime again the punishment would be more severe. But in his writings he came up with once a conviction the punishment would soon come after therefore it would be swift. Criminals are shaped by the lifestyles and experiences of the past and makeup the person of who they are. They choose the celerity and certainty when the crime happens. That’s basically how the classical system work. Basically explains crime doesn’t pay so don’t break that law. Beccaria also explains to take into account other factors into the punishment depending on the crime such as age, psychological aspect, and rational thought. He discussed the more likely the law violator would stop their actions if the likely pain linked with a pattern of behavior surpass the criminal gain. Talking about free will, everyone basically has a choice if they want to break the law. Punishing individuals so badly they wont become neglectful again. Navy001

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    1. I completely agree with your statement on Beccaria "he also explains to take into account other factors into the punishment depending on the crime such as age, psychological aspect, and rational thought. He discussed the more likely the law violator would stop their actions if the likely pain linked with a pattern of behavior surpass the criminal gain." Making sure people are getting the right kind of punishment was very important. As we know there were different types of punishment back in the day, they're were only so many to choose from.

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    2. I agree with how Beccaria stated that everyone has their own choice to commit a crime. I believe that’s a good point, no matter how severe the punishment someone is always going to have a specific reason why they broke the law. You would think these criminals would stop considering the sentences continue to grow longer. I do not believe Beccaria’s idea of deterrence is working as well as he had planned. The sentence and punishment are not going to stop someone from committing a crime they are dead set on committing. In other ways deterrence does work and stops many possible crimes from happening. -LW001

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    3. I agree with what you are saying . Beccaria’s plan was a good idea and it probably worked back then. But now not so much. Some people still commit crimes even though they know there not supposed to. For example, speeding you know that if you get caught it’s a possible chance that you will get a ticket but people do it anyway. Or a more common crime that happens is smoking weed. Everyone knows that the lawmakers haven’t made it legal yet but people smoke it anyway. Now depending on the police officer they could be looking at some time. Batman001

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  3. There are five main theories of crime… Classical Theory, Positive Theory, Psychoanalytic Theory, Sociological Theory and Social Contract Theory. The Classical Theory is the traditional theory, wherein more emphasis is on the organization rather than the employees working therein. According to the classical theory, the organization is considered as a machine and the human beings as different components/parts of that machine. The classical theory has the following characteristics, it is built on an accounting model, it lays emphasis on detecting errors and correcting them once they have been committed, it is more concerned with the amount of output than the human beings, the human beings are considered to be relatively homogeneous and unmodifiable. Thus, labor is not divided on the basis of different kinds of jobs to be performed in an organization, it is assumed that the authority and control should be vested with the central authority only, in order to have a centralized and integrated system. Some writers of the classical theory emphasized on the technological aspects of the organization and how the individuals can be made more efficient, while others emphasized on the structural aspects of an organization so that individuals collectively can be made more efficient. Thus, this purview of different writers resulted in the formation of two distinct streams: -PB001

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  4. This video talks about the many theories of crime. The five main theories are classical theory, positive theory, psychoanalytic theory, sociological theory and the social contract theory. Caesar Macario is the founder of the classical theory. According to Beccaria crime is caused by the individual free will and that human beings are rational and make decisions freely and with understanding of consequences persons rationally choose actions that will bring them pleasure. There are many reasons why people commit crimes. He or she might be poor and need to steal food for themselves or it could just because they see a friend do it. The punishment should be severe enough to deter people from doing crimes. If people knew how bad the punishment was they probably wouldn't commit the crime. Especially for having a gun in Illinois. For example, if someone commits a crime and there is an accomplice to the crime they both get charged with the same crime. I feel it also depends on the officer also. For instance, if an officer sees someone speeding they have discretion to either pull them over or not. Beccaria also explains to take into account other factors into the punishment depending on the crime such as age, psychological aspect, and rational thought. Which i think they should include in today’s sentencing. Batman001

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    1. We all have free will, it is up to us individually on how we act on our own. Those who stay in a life of crime will end up in a life of punishment. Every crime committed deserves equal punishment for all. If we can lay down more strict rules maybe we can deter even more people and lower the crime rate. A large part of this I believe is that we need to speed up the time it takes to receive a punishment. The longer someone waits the less severe and real it feels.
      -KF001

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  5. Classical Theory, Positivist theory, Psychoanalytic theory, Sociological theory, and Social Contract theory are all mentioned in name but Classical is the one that is focused on the most. Caesar Beccaria is considered the founder. According to him, human beings are rational. He says that human beings are wrong when they commit crime not because of their mental state but because of their actions. A punishment should be severe enough to deter people from committing crime. The law and government should be impartial. He says that punishment should be equal to the crime and not the individual. Beccaria goes on to explain that we need to take into account the following factors: age, psychological aspect, and rational thought. To add on to what is being said on deterrence. There are still people that will commit crime regardless of how harsh the punishment. For others, they may not feel like they have any choice and commit a crime to help themselves (for example stealing because they can’t afford food OR a kid stealing a shirt to fit in and stop getting bullied). Another thing on the lines of deterrence regards discretion. An officer can choose to stop someone who is smoking weed obviously or not. An officer can decide whether or not they will put in the time to pull someone over for speeding (example. Speed limit is 10 and they are going 15 versus the speed limit is 10 and they are going 30). To continue with the idea of punishment while looking at factors age, mind, etc. A 13 year old mind works way differently than a 30 year old mind OR a 40 year old mind will act differently than a 40 year old mind that has a mental illness. -TanLionNala001

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  6. In this video, the speaker is talking about the theories of crime and how the classical theory is the most agreeable. Cesare Beccaria is the founder of the classical theory and he says crime is caused by an individual's free will. In general, the meaning behind the classical theory is that it has to do with the person committing the crime is in the wrong due to their actions and not because of their mental state. I think since this is the classical theory that because its been used for so long that people back then didn’t understand the concept of committing a crime for different reasons. People are still responsible for their crimes whether or not they were swayed into it or not. I liked how in the video the speaker asked if people didn’t have free will then why would they be punished at all because it shows both sides to the theory. The theory shows a point where even if a person in mentally unstable they still have that option to give in to that urge to commit the crime which I agree with this statement because we all think of the consequences of committing a crime but some people might just think of those consequences as just bumps in the road. One of the most important parts of the classical theory is that the punishment or penalties for a crime should be absolute according Beccaria.-HL001

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    1. I agree that people are responsible for their crimes. Like the theory, crime is cost by individuals free will. People do understand that there is a consequence of their action. One important thing that I like about this theory is that they see that law should always be equal when it comes to punishment, even though the person committed the crime have a mental problem or not. But nowadays that’s not the case; people with money killed someone they can be out in no time. People with mental illness, be locked up for life and without help. In all, people deter from committing the crime when they know that the punishment would be absolute. -Cancun001

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  7. After watching this video, I found out that Cesare Beccaria is considered the founder of the classical theory. It defines as the crime is cost by the individual free will. Cause human can make a decision freely and with an understanding of its consequences. I agree with the idea that a person who commits a crime is in the wrong, not because of their mental state. It is because people have free will to choose how to act. Addition to this, classical theory finds that even a person is a sociopath or a psychopath they still have a free will, whether to choose to commit the crime or give in to their impulses. I strongly agree that the punishment should fit the crime committed and not the criminal. Another thing I agree with is that people deter from committing the crime when they know that the punishment would be absolute. Law should always be equal when it comes to punishment, even though the person who committed the crime have a mental problem or not. The swift and certain the punishment the better to deter crime, this is because if they wait longer in jail or prison, they might think of committing the same crime again. Or have an idea for a newer one. In all of my understanding, people should be accountable for every action they do, whether it is for good or bad. -Cancun001

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    1. I agree with you that the more swift and severe a punishment is, the better it can help to deter further crime. The free will aspect of classical theory is definitely a debatable theory because of the many different ideas as to why individuals, especially juveniles, commit crimes. It is definitely very important to remember that we do need to punish people based on their behavior but that the we try to reform their behavior. The classical theory stating that the punishment should be equal to the crime fits this idea and was and still is a strong basis for the understanding of criminal behavior. -Blues001

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  8. Cesare Beccaria lived from 1738 to 1794. Beccaria believed in free will, rationalistic hedonism. Human choice is solely based on rational calculation of costs and benefits. Punishments to crimes need to be proportional. Crime for a long time has been identified with sin, or manifesting with the devil. This is where the state stepped in and claims to play the role of God, this is why punishments have been so harsh in the past. Beccaria’s work influenced the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution. Beccaria believed and wrote about seven different main topics that many would never speak about. The legislature should define crime and specify the punishment. People should be aware of what is considered to be a crime and how they will be treated after committing any such crime. Judges need to follow the law, if they are going to have a say in my ;punishment i want them to have to follow the same rules. Excessive severity will not deter crime, it actually may increase it. If someone is going to receive such a severe crime, why not do the maximum amount of bad. The seriousness of the crime will be determined by how much harm was done to the society. Punishments should always be certain or nobody would follow the rules. The main purpose of punishment is to deter crime. Laws should be published so that the public is aware of crimes and punishments.
    -KF001

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    1. Cesare Becarrua believed that crime is caused by free will, we have the rational ability to choose. Crime is simply wrong and not depending on someone's mental state. Punishments need to fit the crime. The most effective form of punishment is when it is swift. People choose how they wish to act, yet prefer to avoid pain even through they ignore rationality. The cost of a crime outweighs the punishment. IF we are not swift and certain punishment will not be taken seriously. We have a choice to do the things we do, voluntarily, so we have to be aware of the seriousness. Regardless of the current or past situation we have to treat each other equally. Certainty will always beat severity. If someone is certain punishment is coming they will be deterred. Severity can influence someone to go even farther with their crime. Laws should be certain and the penalty needs to be absolute. Punishment is essential in deterring crime. The problem with our justice system is that is changes for different people. Another issue is the long wait time. If we can speed up the process, punishment will look and feel so much more real. We need to lay down strict laws in order to reduce crime.
      -Kf001

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  9. this video was well put together and gave some well given facts for us to all remember after watching this video I learned a lot about classical Positivist theory Psychoanalytic theory Sociological theory and Social Contract theory all of every one of these points play a big role in todays juvenile delinquency. also while watching this video I learned that Caesar Macarid is the founder of the classical theory this is a big point because it shows who was the creater of this theory and it helps out a lot to where if you need to know something you can always refer back to his name to get some more ideas and pointers about the theory. also while watching the video i caught that If someone commits a crime they have to serve whatever punishment deems suitable for what they did. This video also states that punishments need to be swift and severe in order to prove a point to future criminals to help deter crimes overall while watching the video i caught a lot of good fact to follow up while in class. beretta001

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  10. The idea of classical theory is based around the idea that an individual will commit a crime just because they want too. While I somewhat believe that I really think it goes much deeper into the level of biological and psychological factors. At the time that Cesare founded the idea of classical criminology the psychological factors were not understood as well but this theory does have some good behind it. I agree when Cesare wrote that the punishment of a crime should fit the crime. Eye for an eye type of punishment can be effective, but the part that needs to be considered is the rehabilitation aspect of the punishment. If all we did was punish individuals without the idea of reforming their behavior, the juveniles would become habitual offenders later in life. I do however know that the swiftness and certainty of committing a crime are the two strongest ways to deter crime. For juveniles who commit crimes at their own free will to have the understanding that they will be caught very quickly and that the punishment will always be similar for them could further prevent crime. Especially for those juveniles seeing their friends being punished swiftly could have a much deeper impact in their life which is the point of that deterrence method. -Blues001

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