Debtor's Prison....

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  1. In the last decade there has been a rise in people going to prison and jail, because they failed to pay off their debt. I think this is one of the worst possible solutions to deal with people who owe debt. Being locked up behind bars isn’t going to help them pay off their debt when they don’t have an income. Not only will this increase the time it takes the debtors to get out of debt, but will also be wasting money holding them in jails and prisons. Not only is it a complete waste of money, but it’s also illegal. Locking someone up because they can afford to pay court fines or fees is a violation of the 14th amendment. Since 2009 the ACLU has been trying to challenge the prisons holding people for debt. Before reading this article I never heard of people being locked up because of debt. After reading the article I think that releasing people who owe debt is in the best interest for everyone. This will give those people a chance to pay back their debt slowly but surely. -CRJB002

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  2. I think its sad we are still putting people in prison for something as simple as failing to pay off a debt, even though there is a law against it. It also doesn’t make sense that we are also charging fees to these people. The article also suggests that debtor’s prisons are a waste of taxpayer money because there is little money coming back into the prison. There also is the issue of racism and the issue of poorer people being treated worse than richer people because they are simply poor. Lastly, people who are put in these prisons are stripped of their basic rights and aren’t given proper hearings on their “crime.” We seriously need to rethink this messed up system and we should think about releasing some of these people or give them debt forgiveness. This system sounds really corrupt and really needs to be eliminated for the good of criminal justice reform. -OUTATIME002

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  3. People are being put into custody for not being able to pay off fines and fees which leads to another debt for them to pay off either with their time or money they do not have. It is sad to know that these people could be trying to support their families and are barely making enough to survive and then could be taken away from their families and jobs. Doing this to people is harmful to the individual and the community. If they are being jailed, they have no way to receive a livable income and support their families. The article stated that incarcerating people for debt is illegal, but not only is it illegal it is also wrong and sad. Instead of locking people up for something as little as not paying a small fee, we should be doing something to figure out how we can help and work with these people. -arm002

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  4. Being put in jail for not paying a debt off is not right. There are many people who commit certain crimes because they are poor. What I mean by that is take stealing food or clothes. The main reason for theft crime is that poor people take it to help themselves. Going to court and lawyers costs are high. According to the article they are charging high fees for low level crimes. It seems like jail is the only only options that is being presented instead of community services. Just putting everyone in jail mainly for non serious crimes knowing they can't afford the costs is only putting them and their families in a worse situation. It seems that race plays a part in this, it seems that the poor which are mainly minorities get harsher punishments then a rich person who can afford to pay off their debts. Putting someone in prison just because they can't pay their debts makes the prison system grow for unnecessary reasons. There are more important crimes that are being committed in the world like murder that makes sense that hold someone in jail besides not paying something. -zw002

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  5. From this article it is saying that people are being sent to jail for not being to pay fines and debt therefore also increasing the amount they need to pay to get out. This is just wrong because just like what the article states us taxpayers are having to pay for them to be in there when they really shouldn't be. It is a waste of time and money. I understand that many of them probably steal but if they are poor enough they will turn to stealing just to get by from day to day, for example stealing clothes or food which are basic necessities that a lot of us can afford however there are some that cant. Then when it comes to court they cant have a fair trial unlike some other people who have money to afford a good lawyer. This debtors prison is illegal as stated in the article and it is just wrong on some many levels which needs to be fixed some how. -wags002

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  6. The ACLU and ACLU affiliates have been uncovering the development of debtors prisons which have sprung up around the country. These prisons, which are illegal, create a burden on state and federal budgets as they collect and arrest people for effectively being poor. All without offering any appropriate alternative to those who cannot pay. A good example would be community service. Now economically disadvantaged peoples forego basic goods and necessities just to pay on legal bills that they have no finical means of paying off, taking them back into a criminal justice system they may be attempting to leave behind. Even more inappropriate is the slap on the wrist those with money receive under this system. It is not one built out of equality, justice, or fairness under the law. It develops a system which abuses the basic tenets of our civil liberties we are granted by birth. Allowing those with money to be above the law, and condemning prison time to those without. -CamSlifton002

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  7. It seems like a vicious, unending cycle to jail people for debts that they owe. Debtor’s prisons were formally abolished however there are people being incarcerated for failure to pay legal fees. The purpose of public defenders is to ensure that and every citizen has a fair trial. Jailing a citizen for not being able to pay for his defense violates the very principal of having a public defender. There is also a substantial amount of money that tax payers pay to keep the debtors incarcerated. In essence, it costs the tax payers even more money to jail a person that is in a state of financial hardship. The cycle this creates is never ending. If a person is incarcerated because they fall behind on legal payments, they will most likely lose whatever means of income they have from employment. As a result the families will have to rely on even more tax payer support while the provider is jailed. It’s a vicious cycle that will never allow the debtor to be able to sustain employment or allow the debt to ever be repaid. - Zen002

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  8. This article speaks upon debtors prisons. It says that “two centuries ago, and that they abolished the incarceration of people who failed to pay off debts.” So why are people still going through this same issue in 2019.so many people have been taken away from there families because of a fine they couldn’t pay in the first or something happened and they got behind on there payments. How do they expect poor people to pay for something that they never had the money for it in the first place. Then officials go back and say that jails and prisons are overcrowded. If you keep locking up people for the same recurring. issues how oils it not be overcrowded. “And most troubling, debtors prisons create a racially skewed, two tiered system of justice in which the poor receive harsher, longer punishments for committing the same crimes as the rich, simply because they are poor. Which makes since because the rich can afford a whole defense team and know people in the courts to make it go away while the poor can’t. Batman002

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    1. Being put in jail for not paying a debt off is not right. There are many people who commit certain crimes because they are poor. What I mean by that is take stealing food or clothes. The main reason for theft crime is that poor people take it to help themselves. Going to court and lawyers’ costs are high. A good example would be community service. Now economically disadvantaged peoples forego basic goods and necessities just to pay on legal bills that they have no finical means of paying of It seems like a vicious, unending cycle to jail people for debts that they owe. Debtor’s prisons were formally abolished however there are people being incarcerated for failure to pay legal fees. The purpose of public defenders is to ensure that and every citizen has a fair trial. Jailing a citizen for not being able to pay for his defense violates the very principal of having a public defender. SH002

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  9. Before reading the article I wasn’t sure what “debtors’ prison” even meant and once I started getting into the article I realized what it meant. I honestly didn’t know that we jailed people for not being able to pay for legal fees such as traffic violations and other low-level offenses. I totally believe in “if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime” but for noncriminal activity it seems like a waste of prison space and tax payer money. Some people are truly not capable of paying for things like the outrageously high parking ticket (or whatever), without giving up a basic every day necessity. Like the article says, jailing these poor people imposes direct costs on the government and further destabilizes their lives; how are the people being imprisoned for this ever going to be able to pay if they’re sitting in jail instead of working to earn the money? Community service is one option to keep them in the community and working. Debtors' prisons create a “racially-skewed, two-tiered system of justice” in which the poor receive harsher, longer punishments for committing the same crimes as the rich, because they are poor and cannot afford the best lawyer to keep them out of jail. We have to do better as a country and recognize how wrong it is to incarcerate people for being in debt, which I think this article does a good job of.
    --coffeeplease002

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  10. The article suggests that debtor’s prisons are a waste of taxpayer money because there is little money coming back into the prison. There also is the issue of racism and the issue of poorer people being treated worse than richer people because they are simply poor. People who are put in these prisons are stripped of their basic rights and aren’t given proper hearings on their “crime.” It is sad to know that these people could be trying to support their families and are barely making enough to survive and then could be taken away from their families and jobs. Doing this to people is harmful to the individual and the community. If they are being jailed, they have no way to receive a livable income and support their families. It seems like jail is the only options that is being presented instead of community services. Just putting everyone in jail mainly for non-serious crimes knowing they can't afford the costs is only putting them and their families in a worse situation. It seems that race plays a part in this, it seems that the poor which are mainly minorities get harsher punishments then a rich person who can afford to pay off their debts.SH002

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  11. There have been a rise of modern day debtors’ prisons in recent years which is not fair. It is not fair to the people that can not afford to pay their debt to be put into jail and to now have to pay another cost to get out. The article says that these underprivileged people also have an unfair time in court since that can not afford any hearing to determine the individual’s ability to pay or offering alternatives to payment, such as community service. When these people are put into these illegal prisons it inflict a cost on the government, as well as waste the taxpayer’s money. Incarcerating these people will not only increase the amount of time it takes for one to pay their debt, but will also reclaim them to the criminal justice system. I think it would cost more to imprison someone over debt, then the debt is probably itself. JU002

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  12. The United States did away with locking people up just because they could not pay off their debt, nearly two centuries ago. State and local courts try to help funding of their courts by charging fees to people convicted, public defenders, prosecutors, court administration, jail operation, and probation. Many people cannot afford to pay all of these fees, as a result, they end up getting locked up for longer because they could not afford it. These debtor prisons are not only unjust,but also illegal. They keep the poor stuck in prison longer just because of their inability to pay off debt. This in fact, violates the Fourteenth Amendment of due process and equal protection. It is incredibly unfair to keep the poor in this cycle. The debt prisoners also waste our money as taxpayers, paying for someone to sit in prison that they can not afford to escape, how horrible.
    -KF002

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  13. The Article “ ENDING MODERN-DAY DEBTORS' PRISONS” talks about the United States formally abolished the incarceration of people who fail to pay off their debts. Over the years people have witnessed the rise of modern day debtor’s prisons. Both State and local Courts have had attempts to supplement their funding by charging fees to people that have convicted a crime. This means they gave fees to public defenders, prosecutors, court administration, jail operation and probation supervision. The courts across the country uses an aggressive tactics to collect unpaid fines and fees. This includes traffic offenses and other low level offenses. According to the article, “ since 2009, the ACLU and ACLU affiliates across the country have been exposing and challenging modern-day debtors' prisons, and urging governments and courts to pursue more rational and equitable approaches to criminal justice debt.” This means they have devastating human cost. The Debtors’ prisons waste taxpayers money and resources by jailing people who can afford to pay their debts. I am glad it is illegal because it is really funfair to the people that don’t have the money to pay off their debt. softball002

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  14. This article basically says that Debtors is wasting taxpayers money because the money is not being put back into the prisons. There is a huge problem in prisons. If you have more money you basically get the live better than the poorer people. More money will give you less time also. This quote caught me by surprise, did you know that debtors prison is illegal. “Debtors' prisons are not only unfair and insensible, they are also illegal. Imprisoning someone because she cannot afford to pay court-imposed fines or fees violates the Fourteenth Amendment promises of due process and equal protection under the law.” I also hear about people going to jail because they cannot pay court fees. That is a horrible solution to the situation. It's almost like they are just finding a reason to throw people into jail. There should be some type of payment plan or payment method. The law against this may not stop it, this needs to be enforced.-Jas002

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  15. A two tiered system of jail time is just wrong. We will always have the rich and the poor there is no doubt beyond that but making the system equal I have no fear that is beyond it. We need need to ,aybe reform the system to that its equal on both sides of monetary value to get the proper justice. I don’t know what the answer is but question would be through other than fines or other fees? The price to restrain someone costs more than a fine which puts more on our resources to house somebody with a more serious fine. It seems like the ACLU has in some states devised to protect poor people with a pay as as you go to not throw them in jail to waste some of our tax payer resources. Also I guess entitled the idea of represented council for a small fee. Navy002

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  16. Reading this article it just didn't make much sense to me. Sure, I understand if someone gets in trouble and they have to pay for a ticket or something then get in trouble for not paying for it. The fact that someone can get arrested and sent to jail for not paying for a debt is absurd. I do not think it is fair to send people to jail for not paying debts. What would jail really do for those people? It might motivate some to get a job if they don't have one but mostly it would just make them terrified. It would make honest, hard working citizens turn to illegal activity because they can't make ends meet as is. They then have a debt to pay off or else they go to jail. I think that there can be programs or special funds set up for those that genuinely can not afford the cost of living. Sending those people to jail would not teach them anything. It does way more harm than good in my opinion. -wb002

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  17. The fact that debtor’s prisons exist is completely outrageous and infuriating. People are being thrown in jail for debts they struggle paying which makes it even harder if not near impossible to pay once incarcerated. They do not have access to jobs while in jail and the other taxpayers are now responsible to pay for them to be fed, housed, and medicated. Seeing as this also violates the 14th Amendment, I do not understand how the government is allowing this to happen and wonder how much the government is benefitting from this illegal act. I can only hope that these debtor’s prisons are shut down at some point in the future and better ways to help these poor people pay their debts are developed. -Gamma002

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  18. I completely disagree with the jailing of individuals who can not pay off debts, we are already facing the overcrowding of prisons and jails, and for us to incarcerate people who just simply owe money in my opinion is irritating. Jailing these people isn’t going to magically pay their debts back, it's only going to withhold them from maintaining their jobs, and taking care of their families. Another question I have is if by jailing their inmates, what kind of debt do they owe? Is there sentencing based on how much they owe or is it based off how long its taken them to pay it back? In all, the jailing of debts confuses me, I feel way more measures can be taken than just putting these individuals away. I hope we soon do away with this because it is wasting time and taking away people who necessarily don’t deserve it.-as002

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  19. One of the saddest things in today's society that is truly disheartening, is the poor being targeted for being poor. With that being said, nothing in the world is free and companies are going to want money for their services or products. Poor people may get sick and have to go to the hospital and next thing you know they are thousands of dollars in debt with no way to replenish those funds. They will then have to answer to collection agencies and sometimes be involved in criminal lawsuits. Now the ones that I don't feel sorry for are the dead beat dads who aren't paying child support. If you cannot pay child support, then you should’ve thought about that before doing the act that has the ability to conceive a child. I totally stand behind the thought process that if someone isnt helping support the child that they made, then they should be charged by law as in incentive to support your child. FIRE002

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